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_Richard_ · 10-22-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spads

You're joking right? Of course it's cheaper than it is in the US. The average salary in Budapest is like $700 after taxes and that's the financial capital of the country.

a lot of people don't really take that into account. ie, piracy in countries where a 'full priced movie' would feed a family for a month etc.

i mean, i knew this myself, but didn't really truly comprehend till going to a place where the products i get for $20 are something like .20-$5

nico-t · 10-22-2014, 03:56 PM

Governments: Making rules and regulations solely for their own financial gain, wrapped into fabricated arguments to dupe the naive part of the cattle. The formula for success for centuries.

Matyko · 10-22-2014, 11:50 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...b18_story.html

http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/...-internet-use/

http://news.sky.com/story/1358133/ne...sed-in-hungary

http://rt.com/news/198032-hungary-internet-tax-protest/

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2473b...#axzz3GuOj7rd3

http://www.euronews.com/2014/10/22/h...and-providers/

http://www.abqjournal.com/484108/abq...ernet-use.html

Quine · 10-23-2014, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Tax is not bad.

Taxes can be very good. Look at countries with high taxation they are some of the best countries in the World to live in.

Correlation does not imply causation. They were successful before high taxes and they would be even more successful with lower taxes. Here's a great blog post from some Hungarian entrepreneur, it's worth reading:
This is why I don't give you a job.

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Originally Posted by spads

It's not surprising at all that this is happening in Hungary. It's a country run almost entirely by neo-nazi thugs.

Is it really like that?

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THOUGHT CRIMES IN BUDAPEST
To hear the castrated voices of the sold-out-to-globalists Western press tell it, Hungary is a viper?s nest of ?neo-fascists? and ?far right? meanies who sit around denying the Holocaust when they aren?t beating up Gypsies and urinating on the homeless. From all the hype, one would think that Zsa Zsa Gabor?s birthplace would at least be a safe haven for a genteel group of neo-reactionary intellectuals to hold a conference with the decided non-inflammatory title of ?The Future of Europe: Its Culture, People, And Civilization.?

The conference, which had been scheduled for October 3-5 at a Budapest hotel, was to feature American Renaissance editor Jared Taylor, Croatian academic Tomislav Sunić, Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin, French identitarian Philippe Vardon, Austrian-born identitarian Markus Willinger, former Taki?s Mag editor Richard B. Spencer of the National Policy Institute, and Marton Gyöngyösi of Hungary?s ?far right? Jobbik Party.

But on September 29, Hungary?s Minister of Interior issued a statement banning the conference and calling the National Policy Institute a ?white supremacy? organization. Jobbik?s Marton Gyöngyösi appeared to have a sudden Saul of Tarsus moment, and after the scales fell from his eyes he told The Wall Street Journal, ?I can hardly sympathize with the views of some of the speakers?namely those of the US racists; I don?t share their ideologies at all.? Dugin was denied a visa. Publisher William Regnery II of the National Policy Institute was detained at the Hungarian border, jailed overnight, and then deported to London.

?And doublespeak held illimitable dominion over all.?
Most egregiously, Hungarian police crashed a pre-conference get-together at the Clock Café in Budapest, locking it down and grilling bar patrons for hours before arresting Richard Spencer on the pretense that he wasn?t carrying a passport. Spencer would spend the next three days under the thumb of Hungarian authorities?much of it in a jail cell?before being deported.

But by the time Hungary?s allegedly ?far right? government was done, only Jared Taylor and Tom Sunić managed to squeak past authorities and deliver speeches?and then only over a hastily arranged private dinner at a Budapest restaurant rather than in the conference room at the hotel, which had pulled out of booking the event and canceled attendees? room reservations in the wake of negative publicity and the government crackdown.

In true leftist turd-slinging ad-hominem fashion?it?s quite obvious they are capable of no other argumentative style?the Daily Beast dubbed Spencer a ?white nationalist creep? who harbors ?odious views? as well as ?stupid and bigoted thoughts.? Naturally, the article failed to present even one of these odious views or stupid thoughts for public scrutiny because, you know, they present a clear and present danger of infecting people?s minds. ?It?s time to shine a 1,000 watt light on these idiots,? mewled some over-emotive moron in the comments section. Yes, pulling the plug on them and refusing to allow them to even speak is the most efficient method of shining a light on them. Increasingly, it?s becoming obvious that the only remaining acceptable speech is doublespeak.

http://takimag.com/article/the_week_...#ixzz3Gy2M70jR

california · 10-23-2014, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

you have no idea about the fucking retarded INSANITY that goes on here via the rampage of viktor orban and his buddies...

Can you name a few examples? I'm curious about what's going on there.

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by california

Can you name a few examples? I'm curious about what's going on there.

Here's a simple one: they changed the law so that cigarettes and other tobacco products can only be sold in specialty stores, with a license to sell such products. So now, instead of buying your smokes at the kiosk in front of the subway station, you get to make a 5 min detour to buy them. Sure, not the end of the world for smokers themselves. But this not only created a tobacco cartel, where the license approval process turns very corrupt, but it also cut into the profits of the average small-guy shop owner. Not to mention that it makes price hikes much more likely, due to a number of reasons.

Booze, on the other hand, is till being sold freely.

L-Pink · 10-23-2014, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

http://www.abqjournal.com/484108/abq...ernet-use.html

You're right, excellent read.

Dave-U · 10-23-2014, 06:56 AM

THere are also lots of entertaining memes on the topic

"Internet Tax Presents..

Low Budget Fapping"

And this one..

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-U

THere are also lots of entertaining memes on the topic

"Internet Tax Presents..

Low Budget Fapping"

california · 10-23-2014, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Here's a simple one: they changed the law so that cigarettes and other tobacco products can only be sold in specialty stores, with a license to sell such products. So now, instead of buying your smokes at the kiosk in front of the subway station, you get to make a 5 min detour to buy them. Sure, not the end of the world for smokers themselves. But this not only created a tobacco cartel, where the license approval process turns very corrupt, but it also cut into the profits of the average small-guy shop owner. Not to mention that it makes price hikes much more likely, due to a number of reasons.

Booze, on the other hand, is till being sold freely.

Sounds like a nice gift to a particular lobby and a nuisance to consumers but hardly uncommon in Europe. Lots of licensed stores e.g. in the UK

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by california

Sounds like a nice gift to a particular lobby and a nuisance to consumers but hardly uncommon in Europe. Lots of licensed stores e.g. in the UK

Obviously. But still, we're talking about a country that's been fairly liberal post iron curtain, which is now moving more and more towards a controlled society. Today cigarettes, tomorrow who-knows-what.

california · 10-23-2014, 08:17 AM

Right, it usually starts with minor regulations and gets worse from there.

That said, someone mentioned a fascist dictatorship and insanity earlier in the thread.

This internet tax IS clearly insane.

I'm genuinely curious as to what is going on there

MaDalton · 10-23-2014, 08:39 AM

i dont give a shit about cigarette stores

but for example they raised a 40% tax on profits for private media companies which more or less forces private media companies out of business so they can sell you only government approved (and dictated) news

i have no idea (sorry HU people) how incredibly stupid 60% of voters can be to vote for their own downfall (but we had that in 1933 already)

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i dont give a shit about cigarette stores

but for example they raised a 40% tax on profits for private media companies which more or less forces private media companies out of business so they can sell you only government approved (and dictated) news

Same thing, really, policy wise. The government dictates how and where cigarettes should be sold. The government dictates how and where private media companies can get their news. Of course, the latter being significantly more serious, since it limits the access to independent news...

adultwebmestar · 10-23-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i dont give a shit about cigarette stores

but for example they raised a 40% tax on profits for private media companies which more or less forces private media companies out of business so they can sell you only government approved (and dictated) news

i have no idea (sorry HU people) how incredibly stupid 60% of voters can be to vote for their own downfall (but we had that in 1933 already)

because we can't make good decision...
mszp was a disaster too (liar, corrupt party)

MaDalton · 10-23-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Same thing, really, policy wise. The government dictates how and where cigarettes should be sold. The government dictates how and where private media companies can get their news. Of course, the latter being significantly more serious, since it limits the access to independent news...

if i was the government i'd outlaw cigarettes completely

california · 10-23-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

if i was the government i'd outlaw cigarettes completely

kind of ironic isn't it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-to...n_Nazi_Germany

MaDalton · 10-23-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by california

kind of ironic isn't it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-to...n_Nazi_Germany

yeah - it is

i just really hate smoke

DamageX · 10-23-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

if i was the government i'd outlaw cigarettes completely

I'm a on-an-off smoker. Every time I quit I think about how much easier it would be if there was no temptation, i.e. nowhere to buy cigarettes. But that would just move the business underground, assuming ALL countries would ban them. If not, then the cigarette smuggling business would flourish to never-before-seen levels. Think of the prohibition.

california · 10-23-2014, 09:15 AM

me too cause it's hard to quit LOL

california · 10-23-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

I'm a on-an-off smoker. Every time I quit I think about how much easier it would be if there was no temptation, i.e. nowhere to buy cigarettes. But that would just move the business underground, assuming ALL countries would ban them. If not, then the cigarette smuggling business would flourish to never-before-seen levels. Think of the prohibition.

yep. i think so, too

MaDalton · 10-23-2014, 09:21 AM

i quit 10 years ago - no idea how i ever could have been that stupid

_Richard_ · 10-23-2014, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-U

THere are also lots of entertaining memes on the topic

"Internet Tax Presents..

Low Budget Fapping"

And this one..

and if goes through and spreads to different countries..

sandman! · 10-23-2014, 09:30 AM

Govmt will allways find new ways to tax

Matyko · 10-29-2014, 05:28 AM

DamageX · 10-29-2014, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

Holy shit...

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