Will trade Harper for Obama any day.

[2MuchMark]

Serious question, not trying to start a fight here, but... Why do so many Americans hate President Obama?

Like Bill Clinton, Obama has created millions of jobs. There has been record job growth in the US. It has not been this high since Bill Clinton was president. And he did it despite GW Bush's record job loss. More jobs have been created *This Year*, than in any year of the Bush-Chenney Era, 2 of the years under Clinton, and any year under George Bush senior presidency.

The associated press (AP) says "Job gains put US on pace for best growth since 1999". Washington Post, New York Times and others all say similar. This has been the 10th month in a row where at least 200,000 new jobs have been added. Wow. It's the best jobs numbers in 15 years.

Next, Gas prices are going way down. Now of course Obama is not directly responsible for this, he was certainly blamed for the high prices. The LA Times reported that earnings for Americans are getting higher. Raises! Wow.

Next of course, the Down Jones hit 17,959 last Friday. When George W Bush left office, it was at only 7949. Since Obama has been in office, the Dow gas gained 10,000 points. Wow wow !!

Healthcare spending is down, and the uninsured rate fell by over 30% in a single year.

Just recently of course, Obama made a deal with China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions - a deal that many said would be impossible to make. But he did it.

Republicans seem to have done nothing at all to help. Of course they are on the opposing party but shouldn't government officials work together to at least solve some problems instead of try 52+ times to repeal healthcare because its "unconstitutional" (it isn't), and chase conspiracy theories about Bengazi (there were none).

Right now we have that clown Harper running our country. Long story short, he sucks. We'll gladly trade Harper for Obama any day.

[hadden]

Harper isn't running the country he is ruining the country. Don't get it twisted my white liberal nigga.

[dyna mo]

1. obama hasn't created millions of jobs

2. only republican politicians try and blame obama for high gas prices

3. Obama did absolutely NOTHING to cause the dow to be where it is.

4. Healthcare spending is not down, it's in fact up.

5. while the uninured rate has dropped, those people are still being denied healthcare

6. Obama did not make a deal with CHina to reduce ghg

[DBS.US]

The Obamas have spent over 44 million dollars in taxpayer money on travel and vacations. Some are even calling him the “most well-trvaeled, expensive” president in our nation’s history.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

1. obama hasn't created millions of jobs

2. only republican politicians try and blame obama for high gas prices

3. Obama did absolutely NOTHING to cause the dow to be where it is.

4. Healthcare spending is not down, it's in fact up.

5. while the uninured rate has dropped, those people are still being denied healthcare

6. Obama did not make a deal with CHina to reduce ghg

This

[L-Pink]

Deal. The paperwork should arrive by Fed-X before 10:30am tomorrow. Please sign by highlighted X's and return ASAP. Let's have a done deal by Friday.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

try 52+ times to repeal healthcare because its "unconstitutional" (it isn't)

wrong again, as per usual.



Appeals court rules healthcare law's individual mandate unconstitutional | TheHill

[PR_Glen]

job rate growth have anything to do with the job rate being extremely low when he first got into office? Meaning it would have gone up a lot either way? Cherry picked stats can be so misleading.

someone back me up here, but I would guess that is a big factor..

Next of course, the Down Jones hit 17,959 last Friday. When George W Bush left office, it was at only 7949. Since Obama has been in office, the Dow gas gained 10,000 points. Wow wow !!

wow indeed if you think that was a president that did that..

[nico-t]

the dow jones are fake stats, gold being shipped to china, the US economy is on the brink of another big collapse

[GAMEFINEST]

Obama for lyfe.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Deal. The paperwork should arrive by Fed-X before 10:30am tomorrow. Please sign by highlighted X's and return ASAP. Let's have a done deal by Friday.

You see !!!!!

Even L-Pink manages to do business with Obama !!!!!

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by **********

Right now we have that clown Harper running our country. Long story short, he sucks. We'll gladly trade Harper for Obama any day.

Speak for yourself please.

Why do you leftist types always presume to speak for everybody else? Why do you always think that your opinions and feelings are the only ones that matter? Why do you always assume that all political thoughts must be homogenous and conform to your ideals and if they don't they "suck"?

Personally I think that Obama is a complete disaster as a president and is not fit to run any jurisdiction except for a village full of idiots - maybe. But I have no say in the matter and my opinion on it doesn't count. I just know that I definitely wouldn't want him here. It's bad enough that we might end up with someone who is actually worse than him next year - Justin Trudeau.

As for Harper I think he has done a decent, not perfect, job and does not deserve to be accused of things like "ruining the country" and other over-the-top accusations. That is just the talk of bitter left-wingers who cannot stand the thought of anyone even slightly right of centre being in office even if they are doing a decent job.

Kathleen Wynne is doing a far worse job with Ontario than Harper is with the country. And as Canada's most populous province and largest economy that can have negative effects right across the country.




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[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Speak for yourself please.

Why do you leftist types always presume to speak for everybody else? Why do you always think that your opinions and feelings are the only ones that matter? Why do you always assume that all political thoughts must be homogenous and conform to your ideals and if they don't they "suck"?

Personally I think that Obama is a complete disaster as a president and is not fit to run any jurisdiction except for a village full of idiots - maybe. But I have no say in the matter and my opinion on it doesn't count. I just know that I definitely wouldn't want him here. It's bad enough that we might end up with someone who is actually worse than him next year - Justin Trudeau.

As for Harper I think he has done a decent, not perfect, job and does not deserve to be accused of things like "ruining the country" and other over-the-top accusations. That is just the talk of bitter left-wingers who cannot stand the thought of anyone even slightly right of centre being in office even if they are doing a decent job.

Kathleen Wynne is doing a far worse job with Ontario than Harper is with the country. And as Canada's most populous province and largest economy that can have negative effects right across the country.




.

lol....

As for Kathleen Wynne , maybe Harper could have the decency of meeting with her last week , as she respectfully requested ... but the king did not even respond ...

Enjoy your Harper ....

[crockett]

It's funny that when we had record unemployment, it was all Obama's fault, but soon as the job market turns good Obama has nothing to do with it.

The simple fact is it's Republicans just hate Obama "because" he's Obama and they have hated him since the moment he started his campaign. They have never once given the guy a chance and soon as he was elected the right wingers in congress started trying to block everything they could and were eventually able to grind the govt to a stand still.

People on the left don't necessarily hate Obama, but they are pissed that he really wasn't a Democrat. Obama is to the Right of Reagan and is only considered left because he's a Democrat.

I'd say most of the gripes from the left about Obama is he didn't do more to reel in the NSA and never shut down Gitmo as he promised to do.

I mean think about this for one minute.. Bush wasn't even looking for bin Laden by the end of his term. Meanwhile under Obama's watch we found him and Obama had the balls to send troops into a so called "friendly" country to take him out.

Republicans couldn't even support him for having the balls to kill the most wanted man in the world, they instead bitched and moaned about it. They would rather bin Laden be alive today then have to admit Obama had the balls to do what Bush couldn't or wouldn't do.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol....

As for Kathleen Wynne , maybe Harper could have the decency of meeting with her last week , as she respectfully requested ... but the king did not even respond ...

Enjoy your Harper ....

You laugh because you are an idiot. Period.

Why would Harper rush to meet with someone who spent an entire election campaign trashing him and blaming all of her problems on him? She is just going to ask for money to cover her out of control overspending.

And I will enjoy Harper far more than any of the communist retards you would have running the country.

If your tagline is true please stay there and enjoy "la revolucion".

lol....






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[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

You laugh because you are an idiot. Period.

Why would Harper rush to meet with someone who spent an entire election campaign trashing him and blaming all of her problems on him? She is just going to ask for money to cover her out of control overspending.

And I will enjoy Harper far more than any of the communist retards you would have running the country.

If your tagline is true please stay there and enjoy "la revolucion".

lol....






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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Speak for yourself please.

Why do you leftist types always presume to speak for everybody else? Why do you always think that your opinions and feelings are the only ones that matter? Why do you always assume that all political thoughts must be homogenous and conform to your ideals and if they don't they "suck"?

.

I am so happy to see how open you are and respectfull of other people opinions, as you posted ...

Meanwhile, hookers are back on the street to be used and abused and pimps are stacking the bills ... ( C-36 )

BTW, what do you do in adult ?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

If your tagline is true please stay there and enjoy "la revolucion".



.

just back from Cuba last Saturday ... I go 6 times a year ( 6 weeks ) and go once to my condo in Florida ( On the intracoastal, 800 feet from the beach , 2byhr/2bdr ) ... as I can afford it

Will change my location to please you ...

[Best-In-BC]

Eh Men, Sucks having a Christian nutt job for a leader.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's funny that when we had record unemployment, it was all Obama's fault, but soon as the job market turns good Obama has nothing to do with it.

The simple fact is it's Republicans just hate Obama "because" he's Obama and they have hated him since the moment he started his campaign. They have never once given the guy a chance and soon as he was elected the right wingers in congress started trying to block everything they could and were eventually able to grind the govt to a stand still.

People on the left don't necessarily hate Obama, but they are pissed that he really wasn't a Democrat. Obama is to the Right of Reagan and is only considered left because he's a Democrat.

I'd say most of the gripes from the left about Obama is he didn't do more to reel in the NSA and never shut down Gitmo as he promised to do.

I mean think about this for one minute.. Bush wasn't even looking for bin Laden by the end of his term. Meanwhile under Obama's watch we found him and Obama had the balls to send troops into a so called "friendly" country to take him out.

Republicans couldn't even support him for having the balls to kill the most wanted man in the world, they instead bitched and moaned about it. They would rather bin Laden be alive today then have to admit Obama had the balls to do what Bush couldn't or wouldn't do.

this seems to be a reasonable explanation. but that's party politics. They're supposed to completely disagree on issues BUT still find compromise, which is where the problem lies.

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol....

As for Kathleen Wynne , maybe Harper could have the decency of meeting with her last week , as she respectfully requested ... but the king did not even respond ...

Enjoy your Harper ....

But isn't that what she did to Rob Ford. It cuts both ways.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by RebelR

But isn't that what she did to Rob Ford. It cuts both ways.

True ... but lets keep in perspective the '' condition '' in which Rob Ford was ..... didn`t lend to serious talks

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I am so happy to see how open you are and respectfull of other people opinions, as you posted ...

Meanwhile, hookers are back on the street to be used and abused and pimps are stacking the bills ... ( C-36 )

I don't have to be respectful of other people's opinions. Not everything or everyone is worthy of respect.

I am however mindful that everybody has their own opinion and that I cannot force them to share mine and I cannot assume that they share mine.

There is a difference between telling someone that their opinion sucks and claiming that your opinion is representative of everybody else like the OP did.

And I feel for the hookers, really I do, but that type of issue is not going to be one of the deciding factors for me when it comes time to vote. No government gets everything right for everybody and frankly there are far bigger issues to be concerned about.

Originally Posted by directfiesta

just back from Cuba last Saturday ... I go 6 times a year ( 6 weeks ) and go once to my condo in Florida ( On the intracoastal, 800 feet from the beach , 2byhr/2bdr ) ... as I can afford it

Well good for you. I am sure somebody, somewhere is very proud of you.

I for one would never spend a cent in a backwards repressive police state like Cuba that welcomes wealthy tourists who are free, for the most part, to live a life of their choosing but prevents their own people from doing the same.

But to each their own I guess.




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[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

True ... but lets keep in perspective the '' condition '' in which Rob Ford was ..... didn`t lend to serious talks

So her trying to cover up a billion dollar fuck up makes her someone that Harper should talk to. If what she did happened in the usa she would be in jail. Here we vote her back into office. Its fucking insane.

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

So her trying to cover up a billion dollar fuck up makes her someone that Harper should talk to. If what she did happened in the usa she would be in jail. Here we vote her back into office. Its fucking insane.

I just think he know's what the topic of conversation is going to be. Federally we are running a surplus, while in Ontario there's a deficit. Wynne is more than likely going to ask for some of that surplus to be allocated for Ontario. I believe there have been articles in some papers (certainly not in the The Star though) that have quoted Harper as saying that Wynne should be concentrating less on confrontation, and more on getting her house in order.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by hadden

Harper isn't running the country he is ruining the country. Don't get it twisted my white liberal nigga.

Oops! Very true. A million sorry's...

Originally Posted by dyna mo

1. obama hasn't created millions of jobs

2. only republican politicians try and blame obama for high gas prices

3. Obama did absolutely NOTHING to cause the dow to be where it is.

4. Healthcare spending is not down, it's in fact up.

5. while the uninured rate has dropped, those people are still being denied healthcare

6. Obama did not make a deal with CHina to reduce ghg

The brainiac - no - GENIUS - of GFY has spoken yet again. Every statement a truth. Every truth incontestable. You are are a .. a ... if Einstein and Socrates had a baby, it might be you. Wow. Just wow.

Originally Posted by DBS.US

The Obamas have spent over 44 million dollars in taxpayer money on travel and vacations. Some are even calling him the ?most well-trvaeled, expensive? president in our nation?s history.

I don't know how much he spent, but George W Bush spent 879 days on vacation, vs Obama's 150 days. It's no big deal either way though as they don't really hurt the nation. Roosevelt went fishing his reelection to a 3rd term while Britain was under attack by Germany. He spent his time coming up with the Lend-Lease program which aided Britain. Also, presidents pay for their own vacations. Taxpayers pay for the president to keep working, but lodging and meals are extra.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Deal. The paperwork should arrive by Fed-X before 10:30am tomorrow. Please sign by highlighted X's and return ASAP. Let's have a done deal by Friday.

X

Originally Posted by dyna mo

wrong again, as per usual.



Appeals court rules healthcare law's individual mandate unconstitutional | TheHill

BRILLIANT! Oh my god... every word... every sentence.... that spews from your perfect brain is pure, liquid genius. GENIUS!

Originally Posted by nico-t

the dow jones are fake stats, gold being shipped to china, the US economy is on the brink of another big collapse

The dow is an average indication. Some people put too much into it, but its still a decent indicator as to the general health of the economy I'd say...

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Speak for yourself please.

Why do you leftist types always presume to speak for everybody else? Why do you always think that your opinions and feelings are the only ones that matter? Why do you always assume that all political thoughts must be homogenous and conform to your ideals and if they don't they "suck"?

I'm just asking a question, that's all, and of course my opinions are just that - opinions. From my point of view Harper is a weenie. On the US side, Obama seems kinda cool but he seems to hit obstruction no matter what he does or where he goes. All I'm doing is making an observation and asking for clarity by way of a forum post.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

Personally I think that Obama is a complete disaster as a president and is not fit to run any jurisdiction except for a village full of idiots - maybe. But I have no say in the matter and my opinion on it doesn't count.

Your opinion counts to me. Your opinion is exactly why I post this and other threads. I've discovered that I'm fascinated by politics. I'm no expert in the matter / this is a pubic thread / its a thread about politics / its open to all / so yes of course your opinion counts.

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I just know that I definitely wouldn't want him here. It's bad enough that we might end up with someone who is actually worse than him next year - Justin Trudeau.

I would agree. To me, Trudeau is too young and too inexperienced. Maybe in 10 years or so but not today, not yet.

Originally Posted by crockett

The simple fact is it's Republicans just hate Obama "because" he's Obama and they have hated him since the moment he started his campaign. They have never once given the guy a chance and soon as he was elected the right wingers in congress started trying to block everything they could and were eventually able to grind the govt to a stand still.

See, to me, that seems exactly right. Republicans hate Obama "just because". Mitch McConnell famously said that he wanted to make Obama a 1 term president right after he was elected. Why?

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this seems to be a reasonable explanation. but that's party politics. They're supposed to completely disagree on issues BUT still find compromise, which is where the problem lies.

You SPEW out your creamy goodness with every single line of text. You SPLATTER everyone you know with wisdom. My god, my god... I am so, so very happy to share thread with you. You make me.. happy.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

Serious question, not trying to start a fight here

right.

dumbfuck.

[dyna mo]

the only poster at teh gfy who does not know ********** is completely full of shit is **********.


AHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


dumbfuck.

[dyna mo]

tip for the dumbfuck canadian:

if you are that fucking stupid to think a US president actually creates jobs, then you are too fucking stupid to be starting these sorts of threads. go back to choo choo trains going around in circles.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

I don't know how much he spent, but George W Bush spent 879 days on vacation,.

dumbfuck, you actually believe Bush spent 2 and 1/2 years of an 8 years presidency on vacation?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


dumbfuck.

[dyna mo]

Only a completely stupid dumbfuck canadian would start a thread claiming, hey I don't want to start a fight but here's 7 reasons why I suck BO nutsack, then get butthurt and lash out personally when someone intelligently and succinctly counterpoints those claims.

AHAHAHAHAH

what a dumbfuck.

[Klen]

Well Obama did do one thing - he reduced military budget a lot and did not start full new wars.And when you redirect to money to things which create and not destruct that usually helps.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by RebelR

I just think he know's what the topic of conversation is going to be. Federally we are running a surplus, while in Ontario there's a deficit. Wynne is more than likely going to ask for some of that surplus to be allocated for Ontario. I believe there have been articles in some papers (certainly not in the The Star though) that have quoted Harper as saying that Wynne should be concentrating less on confrontation, and more on getting her house in order.

We are NOT running a surplus ... the sound bites make you believe so ...

We have a deficit, even after all the cuts ... and taking 5 billion from the Unemployment program ...
A forecast of surplus is ahead for 2015 or 2016 , but Harper has already spent it as he began his electoral campaign .

OTTAWA ? Next year?s federal budget surplus will be $1.9 billion, the Finance Department says ? $4.5 billion less than expected, thanks in large part to the Harper government?s multibillion-dollar cost-cutting proposals for families.

The expected surplus, unveiled Wednesday in the government?s fall fiscal and economic update, is a far cry from the $6.4-billion surplus projected in February?s budget.

That?s because of the Conservative government?s recently announced family-friendly tax and benefit initiatives, which will consume an estimated $27 billion from public coffers between 2014-15 and 2019-20.

The update, delivered in Toronto by Finance Minister Joe Oliver, says Canada is projected to run a $2.9-billion shortfall this fiscal year, matching the government?s projection in the federal February budget.

so as said, he does NOT run a surplus yet ... and OIL could wipe out the small margin ....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Well Obama did do one thing - he reduced military budget a lot and did not start full new wars.And when you redirect to money to things which create and not destruct that usually helps.

where do y'all come up with this sort of thing?


1. Over the next 10 years, the growth in the defense budget will slow, but the fact of the matter is this: It will still grow, because we have global responsibilities that demand our leadership. In fact, the defense budget will still be larger than it was toward the end of the Bush administration.”
— President Obama, speaking at the Pentagon , Jan. 5, 2012

2. Obama has started new wars in libya and syria and most recently, with IS.

Which U.S. president has authorized wars of various kinds in seven Muslim countries?
If you guessed Barack Hussein Obama, you are correct.

[takethebluepill]

We may have Harper, but I am still very happy to live on this side of the 49th Parallel. The US of A is kind of like an embarrassing uncle to us. We just sit back and see what crazy shit you are going to next.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by takethebluepill

We may have Harper, but I am still very happy to live on this side of the 49th Parallel. The US of A is kind of like an embarrassing uncle to us. We just sit back and see what crazy shit you are going to next.

and we're happy that judgemental canadians are on that side of it too.

gofuckyourself.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I think that blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blaht blah blah

You're boring.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

You're boring.

more of your "I'm not trying to start a fight", right **********.


simply because I counterpointed your silly incorrect points.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

more of your "I'm not trying to start a fight", right **********.


simply because I counterpointed your silly incorrect points.

Ok big guy...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

Ok big guy...

making sense is a big guy comment to you?

makes sense.

[Useless Warrior]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's funny that when we had record unemployment, it was all Obama's fault, but soon as the job market turns good Obama has nothing to do with it.

The simple fact is it's Republicans just hate Obama "because" he's Obama and they have hated him since the moment he started his campaign. They have never once given the guy a chance and soon as he was elected the right wingers in congress started trying to block everything they could and were eventually able to grind the govt to a stand still.

People on the left don't necessarily hate Obama, but they are pissed that he really wasn't a Democrat. Obama is to the Right of Reagan and is only considered left because he's a Democrat.

I'd say most of the gripes from the left about Obama is he didn't do more to reel in the NSA and never shut down Gitmo as he promised to do.

I mean think about this for one minute.. Bush wasn't even looking for bin Laden by the end of his term. Meanwhile under Obama's watch we found him and Obama had the balls to send troops into a so called "friendly" country to take him out.

Republicans couldn't even support him for having the balls to kill the most wanted man in the world, they instead bitched and moaned about it. They would rather bin Laden be alive today then have to admit Obama had the balls to do what Bush couldn't or wouldn't do.

Holy shit - there is still one reasonable person on GFY.

[shoot twice]

Originally Posted by **********

Serious question, not trying to start a fight here, but... Why do so many Americans hate President Obama?

Like Bill Clinton, Obama has created millions of jobs. There has been record job growth in the US. It has not been this high since Bill Clinton was president. And he did it despite GW Bush's record job loss. More jobs have been created *This Year*, than in any year of the Bush-Chenney Era, 2 of the years under Clinton, and any year under George Bush senior presidency.

The associated press (AP) says "Job gains put US on pace for best growth since 1999". Washington Post, New York Times and others all say similar. This has been the 10th month in a row where at least 200,000 new jobs have been added. Wow. It's the best jobs numbers in 15 years.

Next, Gas prices are going way down. Now of course Obama is not directly responsible for this, he was certainly blamed for the high prices. The LA Times reported that earnings for Americans are getting higher. Raises! Wow.

Next of course, the Down Jones hit 17,959 last Friday. When George W Bush left office, it was at only 7949. Since Obama has been in office, the Dow gas gained 10,000 points. Wow wow !!

Healthcare spending is down, and the uninsured rate fell by over 30% in a single year.

Just recently of course, Obama made a deal with China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions - a deal that many said would be impossible to make. But he did it.

Republicans seem to have done nothing at all to help. Of course they are on the opposing party but shouldn't government officials work together to at least solve some problems instead of try 52+ times to repeal healthcare because its "unconstitutional" (it isn't), and chase conspiracy theories about Bengazi (there were none).

Right now we have that clown Harper running our country. Long story short, he sucks. We'll gladly trade Harper for Obama any day.

It's basically crap like Fox News that tells Americans what to think and big dose of good old fashion racism.

Sure people who are against Obama will come up with all kinds of arguments and factoids about how bad he is. A lot of those people will even convince themselves into believing the hogwash they're spewing. But it all basically boils down to racism and media manipulations. Unfortunately it's pretty much how the good old USA has always worked and probably always will.

As for your prime minster Stephen Harper...
If my memory serves me correctly then he's basically the former leader of the now defunct Reform party. Also known as Alberta's national socialist party founded and funded by the Big Oil corporations to prevent the recreation of another Petro Canada national oil company.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by shoot twice

It's basically crap like Fox News that tells Americans what to think and big dose of good old fashion racism.

Sure people who are against Obama will come up with all kinds of arguments and factoids about how bad he is. A lot of those people will even convince themselves into believing the hogwash they're spewing. But it all basically boils down to racism and media manipulations. Unfortunately it's pretty much how the good old USA has always worked and probably always will.

That is really obvious - Fox News Trashes Obama non-stop. But where does it come from? Do republicans watch and believe Fox News? Or is Fox news a tool of the republican party? Or both?

I'm looking for one thing - any thing - that Obama has done that is good, that a republican might say "Good job" for. Anyone?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

All hail Dynamo, Keyboard warrior.

I see, you asked a question you were not ready for answers to, now you're trying to spin my answer since you are not capable of debating it.

Originally Posted by **********

Serious question, not trying to start a fight here, but... Why do so many Americans hate President Obama?

I answered your silly question, with 7 reasons, plenty of opportunity for an adult to respond to, if they had a logical response and weren't just regurgitating leftwing blogosphere nonsense.

[MediaGuy]

Fuck details. I will agree. Take Harper. Obama would love it up here because he wouldn't have an intelligence/military complex pressuring him to do shit he never wanted, and we wouldn't have all this stupid racist shit hanging over him.

Won't agree with all he does. But he's way above Harper, a religious nut if we ever had one who hates science, facts, reality, and prefers to favor his buddies in industry.

As a hypocritical, anti-Canada prime minister, we've never had better.

Take him. He reveres Reagan and would get on his knees for Bush senior.

Take him.

He probably doesn't like it much up here anyhow...

:D

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by **********

Serious question, not trying to start a fight here, but... Why do so many Americans hate President Obama?

Like Bill Clinton, Obama has created millions of jobs. There has been record job growth in the US. It has not been this high since Bill Clinton was president. And he did it despite GW Bush's record job loss. More jobs have been created *This Year*, than in any year of the Bush-Chenney Era, 2 of the years under Clinton, and any year under George Bush senior presidency.

The associated press (AP) says "Job gains put US on pace for best growth since 1999". Washington Post, New York Times and others all say similar. This has been the 10th month in a row where at least 200,000 new jobs have been added. Wow. It's the best jobs numbers in 15 years.

Next, Gas prices are going way down. Now of course Obama is not directly responsible for this, he was certainly blamed for the high prices. The LA Times reported that earnings for Americans are getting higher. Raises! Wow.

Next of course, the Down Jones hit 17,959 last Friday. When George W Bush left office, it was at only 7949. Since Obama has been in office, the Dow gas gained 10,000 points. Wow wow !!

Healthcare spending is down, and the uninsured rate fell by over 30% in a single year.

Just recently of course, Obama made a deal with China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions - a deal that many said would be impossible to make. But he did it.

Republicans seem to have done nothing at all to help. Of course they are on the opposing party but shouldn't government officials work together to at least solve some problems instead of try 52+ times to repeal healthcare because its "unconstitutional" (it isn't), and chase conspiracy theories about Bengazi (there were none).

Right now we have that clown Harper running our country. Long story short, he sucks. We'll gladly trade Harper for Obama any day.

Because the lies they feed to the rabble aren't believed by as many Americans as dopey Canadians.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Fuck details. I will agree. Take Harper. Obama would love it up here because he wouldn't have an intelligence/military complex pressuring him to do shit he never wanted, and we wouldn't have all this stupid racist shit hanging over him.

Won't agree with all he does. But he's way above Harper, a religious nut if we ever had one who hates science, facts, reality, and prefers to favor his buddies in industry.

As a hypocritical, anti-Canada prime minister, we've never had better.

Take him. He reveres Reagan and would get on his knees for Bush senior.

Take him.

He probably doesn't like it much up here anyhow...

:D

racist shit hanging over BO? like the fucking race baiting he did re: zimmerman? or the other race bait shit he's spoken? or the fact he's a black dude elected president is racism exemplified or?

just what the fuck race shit is hanging over BO?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by shoot twice

It's basically crap like Fox News that tells Americans what to think and big dose of good old fashion racism.

Sure people who are against Obama will come up with all kinds of arguments and factoids about how bad he is. A lot of those people will even convince themselves into believing the hogwash they're spewing. But it all basically boils down to racism and media manipulations. Unfortunately it's pretty much how the good old USA has always worked and probably always will.

As for your prime minster Stephen Harper...
If my memory serves me correctly then he's basically the former leader of the now defunct Reform party. Also known as Alberta's national socialist party founded and funded by the Big Oil corporations to prevent the recreation of another Petro Canada national oil company.

~54% of eligible Americans voted in the last election

~33% of those watch cable news

~55% of those who watch cable news watch fox.

that means fox is telling ~12% of Americans what to think.

And please explain how racism got BO elected a 2 term president.

[Jel]

people still think things happen because of politicians, and not in spite of them?

l o l

[shoot twice]

Originally Posted by **********

That is really obvious - Fox News Trashes Obama non-stop. But where does it come from? Do republicans watch and believe Fox News? Or is Fox news a tool of the republican party? Or both?

I'm looking for one thing - any thing - that Obama has done that is good, that a republican might say "Good job" for. Anyone?

Well it's kind of like this...
The average American is a lazy and poorly educated slob that adores beating his chest. And the following is how he forms his opinions on the world and pretty much any issue.

1. Mr. Joe Average American comes home from work and the first thing on his mind is stuffing something in his mouth. But he's lazy so it's either microwaved toxins, cheese in a can or bacon (preferably microwavable bacon).
   
2. Goes into his living room and drops his ass in the couch in order to channel surf. On TV he's basically looking to watch violence or nudity or stupidity and if he's lucky all 3 at the same time. So after a few moments of flipping through the stations he finds nothing but stumbles upon some loud mouth newscaster bitching and screaming at everyone and everything.... and... well... it's mildly entertaining
   
3. Then when he's done watching TV he drops his ass in front of his computer. Once again he's looking for stupid or naked. So he looks at kittens... watches some girl in a bikini doing a face plant on youtube... strokes off to some porn... Then when that's over he goes "searching" for something but he's got no clue what he wants and most often ends up looks up whatever the television loud mouth was bitching about.

All in all...
When his porn fix is over Mr. Joe Average stumbles on a site or forum like reddit and starts playing games like "guess the race," "Save my guns," and "Canada is a European communist hell hole because they already have a version of Obama Care.

By the end of the week he's decided that "Conservative = Tough" and "Liberal = Gay". Since Republicans are conservatives they're bad asses and democrats are pussies because they're liberals

He goes out and bitches to his co-workers, family and friends about Obama, immigrants, Negros, guns, etc. In return they go out and bitch to their family, co-workers and friends too. And it doesn't take a genius to see the end result.

My friend you're never going to talk sense or win an argument with him and you're certainly not going to make a difference. All you're going to do is stress yourself out trying. Therefore your best course of action is to just do what the Mexicans do. IE: Smile politely and take the slob's money.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Because the lies they feed to the rabble aren't believed by as many Americans as dopey Canadians.

Hi 12Clicks,

I'll assume by "dopey" you mean "awesome". ;)

Can you tell me what the lies are though? Not trying to challenge you or anything, just looking for good idea / discussions on this. - Cheers.