News 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland Police officer at Cudell recreation center dies - GoFuckYourself.com

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 12:52 PM

CLEVELAND - A 12-year-old boy shot by a Cleveland Police officer at a west side recreation center has died.

Cleveland Police Patrolman Association president Jeff Follmer said the boy died at the hospital early Sunday morning.

The Cleveland Division of Police Use of Deadly Force Investigation Team is investigating the officer-involved shooting that happened on Saturday at about 3:30 p.m. at Cudell Recreation Center.

Officers responded to the center for reports of a male with a gun. Police said witnesses reported that a male in the playground area was waiving a gun and pointing it at people.

A 9-1-1 call to emergency dispatchers has been obtained by ABC15 sister station newsnet5 and the caller states a child is "pulling a gun in and out of his pants and pointing it at people."

The caller goes on to say, "It's probably fake."

The man described the child as black, wearing a camouflage hat and a grey jacket with black sleeves.

Police said when they arrived, they located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands.

The suspect did not follow officer?s orders and then reached to his waist for the gun, according to police.

Officers then shot the 12-year-old boy in the torso.

Police say the suspect was in possession of an ?airsoft? type replica gun which resembles a semi-automatic pistol.

The toy gun had the orange safety indicator removed, according to police.

The 12-year-old was transported to MetroHealth Medical Center, where he later died.

One officer was transported to Fairview Hospital for treatment for an ankle injury.

Two officers involved will be placed on administrative leave, which is protocol in officer-involved shooting incidents.

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baddog · 11-23-2014, 12:54 PM

Fucked up parenting

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Fucked up parenting

man parents cant always save u

Xenophage · 11-23-2014, 01:25 PM

Good. One less potential criminal off the streets.

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenophage

Good. One less potential criminal off the streets.

fucking idiot

baddog · 11-23-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

man parents cant always save u

Police say the suspect was in possession of an ?airsoft? type replica gun which resembles a semi-automatic pistol.

The toy gun had the orange safety indicator removed, according to police.

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Police say the suspect was in possession of an ?airsoft? type replica gun which resembles a semi-automatic pistol.

The toy gun had the orange safety indicator removed, according to police.

you think his parents removed it? why didnt you quote he didnt point it? you being selective grandpa?

SilentKnight · 11-23-2014, 02:03 PM

Tragic - but the kid put the chain of events in motion himself.

Xenophage · 11-23-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

fucking idiot

"The man described the child as black, wearing a camouflage hat and a grey jacket with black sleeves."

He was a thuggish asshole at 12, at 17 he would have been robbing people with real weapons.

adulttraffic · 11-23-2014, 02:15 PM

Yeah he did...but he was fucking 12 you moron. Their had to be a better solution then shotting first and asking questions later

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Tragic - but the kid put the chain of events in motion himself.

baddog · 11-23-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you think his parents removed it? why didnt you quote he didnt point it? you being selective grandpa?

You are so fucking stupid:

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Police said when they arrived, they located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands.

The suspect did not follow officer?s orders and then reached to his waist for the gun, according to police.

What are cops supposed to do, just return fire?

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenophage

"The man described the child as black, wearing a camouflage hat and a grey jacket with black sleeves."

He was a thuggish asshole at 12, at 17 he would have been robbing people with real weapons.

yeah most likely so. does that mean its ok to just shoot because all black youth are killers?

SilentKnight · 11-23-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic

Yeah he did...but he was fucking 12 you moron. Their had to be a better solution then shotting first and asking questions later

And I'm the moron.

Share with the class and enlighten us, Einstein - what's the "better solution"?

huey · 11-23-2014, 02:38 PM

Pigs = Cowards

Just killed a guy in my town Vancouver for waving a 2x4 around.

Investigators probe fatal Saturday police shooting in East Vancouver (with video)

MiamiBoyz · 11-23-2014, 02:50 PM

The police are there to "serve and protect" - the Government from the people.

Jel · 11-23-2014, 03:45 PM

jesus fuck... so we have now reached the stage then where because a fucking CHILD doesn't understand the consequences of not obeying the police, the first course of action is to kill him. good to know.

Phoenix · 11-23-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

jesus fuck... so we have now reached the stage then where because a fucking CHILD doesn't understand the consequences of not obeying the police, the first course of action is to kill him. good to know.

That is what i was thinking. Even the bs 911 call mentioned the gun was probably fake. I bet that caller regrets calling now.

I feel bad for the parents. Sad situation and even worse that it will be turned into a race and gun debate issue when really it is just a stupidnmove by a stupid man with a gun.

John_Galbani · 11-23-2014, 04:05 PM

In Israel they sterilize black jews because of fear they bring troubles later. I think its good idea for areas with high crime like Detroit ghetto. Better safe then sorry, right?

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by John_Galbani

In Israel they sterilize black jews because of fear they bring troubles later. I think its good idea for areas with high crime like Detroit ghetto. Better safe then sorry, right?

thats when they start killing your wives and kids

no looking back

Tom_PM · 11-23-2014, 04:10 PM

Sure are some dumb people here. Scarier than dumb cops with trigger fingers.

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Sure are some dumb people here. Scarier than dumb cops with trigger fingers.

he didnt have to kill him he's dead now

blackmonsters · 11-23-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John_Galbani

In Israel they sterilize black jews because of fear they bring troubles later. I think its good idea for areas with high crime like Detroit ghetto. Better safe then sorry, right?

Must work great since there is no violence in Israel.

sonofsam · 11-23-2014, 04:25 PM

Baddog for someone who claims to be a 1%er you sure love to ride the cops dicks... Patch licking goof

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Baddog for someone who claims to be a 1%er you sure love to ride the cops dicks... Patch licking goof

BlackCrayon · 11-23-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

jesus fuck... so we have now reached the stage then where because a fucking CHILD doesn't understand the consequences of not obeying the police, the first course of action is to kill him. good to know.

some people think its a fair punishment for being stupid. these people have obviously lived model lives. we should all strive to be as smart an rational as them.

John_Galbani · 11-23-2014, 04:31 PM

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Must work great since there is no violence in Israel.

Israel is in war but they still have less murders then USA. Because of ghetto gangs and uneducated people who live there. I watch Cops show sometimes and it is always blacks who break law. Maybe 95%.

SuckOnThis · 11-23-2014, 05:58 PM

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

it has to happen to them first

420 · 11-23-2014, 06:12 PM

These adults are trained for this situation and presumably wear kevlar when responding to a call involving a gun. How can they be so scared for their lives that one of them has to shoot the kid twice because he was "reaching for the gun".

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

These adults are trained for this situation and presumably wear kevlar when responding to a call involving a gun. How can they be so scared for their lives that one of them has to shoot the kid twice because he was "reaching for the gun".

sterotypes

have a black friend and a white friend call police see the difference

420 · 11-23-2014, 06:21 PM

I think the problem is with over aggressive police officers. If you are going to shoot a kid on a playground he better have shot at your ass first.

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

I think the problem is with over aggressive police officers. If you are going to shoot a kid on a playground he better have shot at your ass first.

not true they have training. it was his right to shoot. him being black who knows may make his nightmares less

mineistaken · 11-23-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yeah most likely so. does that mean its ok to just shoot because all black youth are killers?

He specifically talks about THAT thug and you somehow invent that he says ALL black youth are killers. It is impossible to discuss anything with you because of how dense you are.

Captain Kawaii · 11-23-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic

Yeah he did...but he was fucking 12 you moron. Their had to be a better solution then shotting first and asking questions later

Yes, we send you out to calmly and lovingly disarm him. If its a real gun, you'll be the first to know.

Jel · 11-23-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Yes, we send you out to calmly and lovingly disarm him. If its a real gun, you'll be the first to know.

mate, why would you turn it into something like that? who said to do that? who in this thread has intimated that they even think that? you're better than that

I get we all have different views, and both sides have equal disbelief over the others' viewpoint, but at least keep it to what's been said

brassmonkey · 11-23-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

He specifically talks about THAT thug and you somehow invent that he says ALL black youth are killers. It is impossible to discuss anything with you because of how dense you are.

bitch ass talk

adulttraffic · 11-23-2014, 06:54 PM

Ok...I agree. Calling you names was not the best way to respond. Its very obvious this kid had issues. And I have no clue on how they could have handled it better. But the fucking kid was only 12. I think in his mind he was like playing a video game. But in real life

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

And I'm the moron.

Share with the class and enlighten us, Einstein - what's the "better solution"?

John_Galbani · 11-23-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sterotypes

have a black friend and a white friend call police see the difference

Why if its stereotype if most black people has been in jail before and black people commit more crime then anyone else? In Europe same thing. Even east European gangs don't do this much crime.

Captain Kawaii · 11-23-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

mate, why would you turn it into something like that? who said to do that? who in this thread has intimated that they even think that? you're better than that

I get we all have different views, and both sides have equal disbelief over the others' viewpoint, but at least keep it to what's been said

You're right. I accept that. Trouble is no one here knows about the history of the area and just how many calls came in. And if the police have a history with the kid. Plus, is this a 4'1" kid or a 6'2" kid.

My point was, no one on this board was here. I don't think police are trained to take a bullet first then shoot. If they feel they or someone else is in danger I believe they use deadly force. Either way it is failed parenting. Jury is out on the cops.

johnny o · 11-23-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Fucked up parenting

on the parents of the police officers. keep enjoying your white privilege people.

TheSquealer · 11-23-2014, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sterotypes

have a black friend and a white friend call police see the difference

Stereotypes exist for a reason. If they weren't more right than wrong, our brains wouldn't use them.

If i called 911 and told them a 12 year old Hasidic jew was running around the playground with a gun, i'd likely get arrested first for a prank call. You think that's racist? Or a simple reflection of an obvious reality?

Besides, pretty fucking obvious where the problem is.. The kid did have a guy. He was told to raise his hands... instead, he went for the gun. That is some Grade A shitty parenting, as has been pointed out already.

420 · 11-23-2014, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Besides, pretty fucking obvious where the problem is.. The kid did have a guy. He was told to raise his hands... instead, he went for the gun. That is some Grade A shitty parenting, as has been pointed out already.

Don't that teach that in school? When the police order you to do something, you do it.

The kid had a bb gun. A 911 caller said he was pointing it at people and it could be fake but wasn't sure. What if the kid is deaf or something?

In a hostage situation the police don't get close enough to feel endangered. Doesn't make sense to put yourself in danger and then feel the need to shoot someone because your life is in danger. No time to stand back and negotiate or wait for backup. "Let's get next to him and see what happens". Fuck it, they're within their rights to shoot first.

TheSquealer · 11-23-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

Don't that teach that in school? When the police order you to do something, you do it.

The kid had a bb gun. A 911 caller said he was pointing it at people and it could be fake but wasn't sure. What if the kid is deaf or something?

In a hostage situation the police don't get close enough to feel endangered. Doesn't make sense to put yourself in danger and then feel the need to shoot someone because your life is in danger. No time to stand back and negotiate or wait for backup. "Let's get next to him and see what happens". Fuck it, they're within their rights to shoot first.

No No... not at all. If you don't let someone shoot first if they are black and you're not black, then you can't be right no matter what. No other facts are required.

420 · 11-23-2014, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

No No... not at all. If you don't let someone shoot first if they are black and you're not black, then you can't be right no matter what. No other facts are required.

I don't know the race of people involved. Just think police are too scared and over aggressive in general. Their tactics could use some change but that's as far as I am concerned.

L-Pink · 11-23-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Tragic - but the kid put the chain of events in motion himself.

Again my unpopular comment about the "victim" almost always does something very stupid to begin the chain of events proves its self.

420 · 11-23-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Again my unpopular comment about the "victim" almost always does something very stupid to begin the chain of events proves its self.

I get the bad parenting thing now. They didn't teach him to be smart enough to not point a gun at people and expect to live.

You're right about the kid doing stupid things. But, the cops need to work smarter as well.

L-Pink · 11-23-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

I don't know the race of people involved. Just think police are too scared and over aggressive in general. Their tactics could use some change but that's as far as I am concerned.

Yesterday in Florida 2 cops show up to a 911 call about a house on fire and get ambushed and shot by the homeowner hiding in front yard bushes. Now every cop in that city will be answering calls with his hand on his holster.

Jel · 11-23-2014, 08:58 PM

the punishment for being a stupid 12 year old kid is death? Come on man...

Jel · 11-23-2014, 09:00 PM

the punishment for a 12 year old having bad parents is also death? Are we really that "pull the ladder up, I'm alright Jack" these days?

L-Pink · 11-23-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny o

on the parents of the police officers. keep enjoying your white privilege people.

And quit ignoring stats while we're at it?

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420 cuck Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,571	These adults are trained for this situation and presumably wear kevlar when responding to a call involving a gun. How can they be so scared for their lives that one of them has to shoot the kid twice because he was "reaching for the gun".

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420 cuck Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,571	I think the problem is with over aggressive police officers. If you are going to shoot a kid on a playground he better have shot at your ass first.

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