Owner of Livejasmin is now the richest guy in Hungary

[SylviaMaroon]

The new Forbes stats came out, he is now the first. The second is the owner of the Hungarian National Bank.



I guess I'm kinda proud, he started from scratch, and I guess i'm proud of that fact I was there when it's started.
I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

[AdultKing]

Profits largely derived by supporting pirate web sites, that's nothing to be proud of.

[SylviaMaroon]

what do you mean?

[SylviaMaroon]

profits comes from horny men and women who are willing to spend money to watch webcam shows..

[AdultKing]

We have been asking for LiveJasmin to cut ties with PlanetSuzy for more than two years and they refuse.

That's just one of hundreds of examples I could cite off the top of my head.

Of the 42,000 piracy source sites we have indexed, 35% of them have LiveJasmin as a sponsor.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

profits comes from horny men and women who are willing to spend money to watch webcam shows..

[AdultKing]

Zsófia Hajdú knew all about the relationships between the company and sites like PlanetSuzy and Intporn. Also knew about the thousands of piracy source sites who were direct or indirect affiliates of the program.

livejasmin.com has around 15k domains linking to it, jasmin.com has around 4k domains linking to it. Many of these are piracy related.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

We have been asking for LiveJasmin to cut ties with PlanetSuzy for more than two years and they refuse.

If they don't do it, somebody else will, that's the reality of it. And as long as what they do is *somewhat* legal, at the very least in their country of residence, I seriously don't see a problem.

Don't get me wrong, I fully sympathize with everyone who opposes any kind of piracy sites. But you can't put the shit back into the horse, and as long as there are loopholes in the law to allow it, this situation isn't going anywhere any time soon.

I've been 100% moral and ethical for most of my years in this industry. I've turned down generous job offers from companies I found fishy and I've rejected advertisers on ADX, who were willing to pay multiples of the asking price for the ads, solely for the reason that they were doing shit which was detrimental to the industry as a whole. I ain't got jack shit to show for that, never paid my rent, never put food on my table. And when I got burned out and sick and couldn't make money for a couple of years, no one sent me any as "thanks" for doing the right thing.

Again, as I said, I really sympathize with everyone's efforts to "cure" the industry of these bottom feeders, but I consider that to be a losing battle. So since this situation doesn't seem to change any time soon, I might as well make money off of it, as everyone else seems to do. At the end of the day, we're all in this for the money, not for being ethical and noble.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by DamageX

If they don't do it, somebody else will, that's the reality of it. And as long as what they do is *somewhat* legal, at the very least in their country of residence, I seriously don't see a problem.

Our understanding is that it's not legal and we're approaching it as such.

I understand people need to make a buck and I also understand that having a firm ethical standpoint on these issues is not going to pay the bills for most people. That said, I am dedicated to pursuing these industry vampires so my position will differ from many in the industry and I am fine with that.

Companies like Exoclick, Duodecad IT Services (Jasmin) and those like them will see action taken against them eventually, at some point they will have to pay. It may not happen this year and it may not happen next year but I am sure it will happen. Meanwhile we're building our files of evidence and patiently waiting for the right time.

[freecartoonporn]

please include my stats in your book 0:999999999999999999

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Our understanding is that it's not legal and we're approaching it as such.

I understand people need to make a buck and I also understand that having a firm ethical standpoint on these issues is not going to pay the bills for most people. That said, I am dedicated to pursuing these industry vampires so my position will differ from many in the industry and I am fine with that.

Companies like Exoclick, Duodecad IT Services (Jasmin) and those like them will see action taken against them eventually, at some point they will have to pay. It may not happen this year and it may not happen next year but I am sure it will happen. Meanwhile we're building our files of evidence and patiently waiting for the right time.

I wish you the best of luck and I truly hope you get enough results in order to make a dent in the current state of the industry. But it is my firm belief that you're playing whack-a-mole.

[SylviaMaroon]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

please include my stats in your book 0:999999999999999999

really???

[adultchatpay]

Ok good luck with that guy, we all aim to be the richest.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by DamageX

If they don't do it, somebody else will, that's the reality of it. And as long as what they do is *somewhat* legal, at the very least in their country of residence, I seriously don't see a problem.

Don't get me wrong, I fully sympathize with everyone who opposes any kind of piracy sites. But you can't put the shit back into the horse, and as long as there are loopholes in the law to allow it, this situation isn't going anywhere any time soon.

I've been 100% moral and ethical for most of my years in this industry. I've turned down generous job offers from companies I found fishy and I've rejected advertisers on ADX, who were willing to pay multiples of the asking price for the ads, solely for the reason that they were doing shit which was detrimental to the industry as a whole. I ain't got jack shit to show for that, never paid my rent, never put food on my table. And when I got burned out and sick and couldn't make money for a couple of years, no one sent me any as "thanks" for doing the right thing.

Again, as I said, I really sympathize with everyone's efforts to "cure" the industry of these bottom feeders, but I consider that to be a losing battle. So since this situation doesn't seem to change any time soon, I might as well make money off of it, as everyone else seems to do. At the end of the day, we're all in this for the money, not for being ethical and noble.

Well said. I know when I get better and start working again after dealing with my own health issues that i'll care much less about some of the ethical issues which burdened me before I got sick.

[Due]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Well said. I know when I get better and start working again after dealing with my own health issues that i'll care much less about some of the ethical issues which burdened me before I got sick.

If you go back 15 years people used to have a higher moral as far as what was accepted and what wasn't. At that time mainstream used to copy adult. Now it appears like adult is copying mainstream. Peoples moral standpoints have taken a huge drop, I think its partially because there is less and less "pornographers" running the show now, todays successful companies is running based on stats and whats allowed by the law. A lot of people who is not willing to go the extra steps they would legally be allowed to do is being left behind

At least that's my observation

[nikki99]

we want more information about This Guy and his connections/business in Colombia

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Profits largely derived by supporting pirate web sites, that's nothing to be proud of.

congrats on your green nickname AK

and yes down the piracy

I offer myself as femme nikita to kill the pirates just give me names and addresses

[djroof]

serious biz... and serious $$$

[TeenCat]

yeah ... and here we go, if you do not work with thieves and pirates, you cannot be big. now, if you work with them, it is possible you become big, and when you are big, everyone just wish you luck and is licking your balls, but it does not matter that the adult industry, you are parasiting on, is going deep because you are supporting to be all the content the industry is producing free for everyone, and the only thing that left to be paid is your cam service ... seriously, how can someone from adult business have respect to this? money talks, shit walks, and this is adult 2014, oh yeah, i am at home now ...

[TeenCat]

he knows he is supporting thieves, he do nothing about it, still taking traffic from thieves, you work with thieves, you are helping thieves to make money, you are nothing else than thief yourself ...

[Klen]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

yeah ... and here we go, if you do not work with thieves and pirates, you cannot be big. now, if you work with them, it is possible you become big, and when you are big, everyone just wish you luck and is licking your balls, but it does not matter that the adult industry, you are parasiting on, is going deep because you are supporting to be all the content the industry is producing free for everyone, and the only thing that left to be paid is your cam service ... seriously, how can someone from adult business have respect to this? money talks, shit walks, and this is adult 2014, oh yeah, i am at home now ...

Yeah they even dominate now harder,you must work with them even if you just want to make some minimum money.Ok,you can promote "clean" micro niche sites which are not affiliated with piracy in any way,but that is not for everyone.

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Due

If you go back 15 years people used to have a higher moral as far as what was accepted and what wasn't.

I wouldn't be so sure. Content theft was just as widespread as it is now. The only difference is that back then it was primarily pictures. The Hun started his site by backdooring AVS sites, how's that for morals? Yet nowadays he preaches about legal content and condemns the tubes. And how about the tons of webmasters pushing auto-installing dialers, which hi-jacked the phone line? You and I both pushed dialers back in the day. I never pushed the nasty ones, but maybe you did? Not accusing you of anything, I just know that many old timers did and nowadays, if they're still around, claim they're clean and have always been.

Also, lots of sponsors were doing shady shit with cross-sales, one-click upsells and whatnot. Some of them even got busted and had to pay sizable fines. And let's not even get into the rampant e-mail spam, advertising porn sites.

My point is, morals were by no means any better back then, especially since the Internet was pretty much still the Wild West. It's just changed between then and now. Morals are no worse, they've just taken a different form of being expressed. Just because you don't remember the shit that was going on back in the day doesn't mean it stunk any less.

[SylviaMaroon]

I guess this is what made it possible, grabbing each and every opportunity, don't care about morals, just aim to be the biggest.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by DamageX

I wouldn't be so sure. Content theft was just as widespread as it is now. The only difference is that back then it was primarily pictures. The Hun started his site by backdooring AVS sites, how's that for morals? Yet nowadays he preaches about legal content and condemns the tubes. And how about the tons of webmasters pushing auto-installing dialers, which hi-jacked the phone line? You and I both pushed dialers back in the day. I never pushed the nasty ones, but maybe you did? Not accusing you of anything, I just know that many old timers did and nowadays, if they're still around, claim they're clean and have always been.

Also, lots of sponsors were doing shady shit with cross-sales, one-click upsells and whatnot. Some of them even got busted and had to pay sizable fines. And let's not even get into the rampant e-mail spam, advertising porn sites.

My point is, morals were by no means any better back then, especially since the Internet was pretty much still the Wild West. It's just changed between then and now. Morals are no worse, they've just taken a different form of being expressed. Just because you don't remember the shit that was going on back in the day doesn't mean it stunk any less.

[BlackCrayon]

scum always rises to the top.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by DamageX

I wouldn't be so sure. Content theft was just as widespread as it is now. The only difference is that back then it was primarily pictures. The Hun started his site by backdooring AVS sites, how's that for morals? Yet nowadays he preaches about legal content and condemns the tubes. And how about the tons of webmasters pushing auto-installing dialers, which hi-jacked the phone line? You and I both pushed dialers back in the day. I never pushed the nasty ones, but maybe you did? Not accusing you of anything, I just know that many old timers did and nowadays, if they're still around, claim they're clean and have always been.

Also, lots of sponsors were doing shady shit with cross-sales, one-click upsells and whatnot. Some of them even got busted and had to pay sizable fines. And let's not even get into the rampant e-mail spam, advertising porn sites.

My point is, morals were by no means any better back then, especially since the Internet was pretty much still the Wild West. It's just changed between then and now. Morals are no worse, they've just taken a different form of being expressed. Just because you don't remember the shit that was going on back in the day doesn't mean it stunk any less.

Well you know what they say,you cant become rich unless you do something shady.And that is like in 90% cases true.

[bluebook18]

they are converting like 0:999999999 and yet managed to get richer, how cool is that

[Martin]

I bet this is how he feels about your concerns

[bns666]

Originally Posted by Martin

I bet this is how he feels about your concerns

[chronik]

Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

what do you mean?

[PGR]

Originally Posted by Martin

I bet this is how he feels about your concerns

Hahah... No doubt

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by Martin

I bet this is how he feels about your concerns

i dont care about how he fell, same as i dont care about his money i am just telling my two cents about how this guy is supporting thieves and stealing from adult industy

[Zyber]

Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

The new Forbes stats came out, he is now the first. The second is the owner of the Hungarian National Bank.



I guess I'm kinda proud, he started from scratch, and I guess i'm proud of that fact I was there when it's started.
I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

Proud of his formula to becoming rich? You mean proud of not counting all the sales?

If that makes you proud, go ahead..

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=972750

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Due

If you go back 15 years people used to have a higher moral as far as what was accepted and what wasn't. At that time mainstream used to copy adult. Now it appears like adult is copying mainstream. Peoples moral standpoints have taken a huge drop, I think its partially because there is less and less "pornographers" running the show now, todays successful companies is running based on stats and whats allowed by the law. A lot of people who is not willing to go the extra steps they would legally be allowed to do is being left behind

At least that's my observation

i completely disagree - back then we had dialer, credit card banging, hidden xsales, way more malware, trojans, circle jerks etc.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

yeah ... and here we go, if you do not work with thieves and pirates, you cannot be big. now, if you work with them, it is possible you become big, and when you are big, everyone just wish you luck and is licking your balls, but it does not matter that the adult industry, you are parasiting on, is going deep because you are supporting to be all the content the industry is producing free for everyone, and the only thing that left to be paid is your cam service ... seriously, how can someone from adult business have respect to this? money talks, shit walks, and this is adult 2014, oh yeah, i am at home now ...

I like girls that licks balls:

[Clay]

Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

Id love to read it if it has specifics of what he did daily. I could use the advice

[Andreweb]

There are still people promoting livejasmin out there ? That's strange !

[adultmobile]

owners of all the big cam sites are the richest of either the city or country etc...

[brassmonkey]

he's a nice guy i remember when he first started. he was very helpful. he's one of the few good people in adult

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he's a nice guy i remember when he first started. he was very helpful. he's one of the few good people in adult

money are changing people ... if he will still be nice good guy, he will be not supporting plundering of adult industry

[lazycash]

14 day affiliate cookie for the win.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he's a nice guy i remember when he first started. he was very helpful. he's one of the few good people in adult

AWE got caught early on deceiving webmasters by only paying on 14 days of revshare, when affiliates thought they were getting lifetime revshare. He's the guy who stated he thought affiliates didn't do much and didn't deserve anything more than 14 days of revshare. At least they responded to the backlash and slowly adapted into a lifetime revshare model using white labels.

[huey]

I remember they where the first cam site to let any guest start chatting with models right away without any sign up or login. Passed most other cam sites for traffic like they where standing still.

[Tom-LifeSelector]

I am proud to be Hungarian

[xXXtesy10]

please https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1153716 needing fast!

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

The new Forbes stats came out, he is now the first. The second is the owner of the Hungarian National Bank.



I guess I'm kinda proud, he started from scratch, and I guess i'm proud of that fact I was there when it's started.
I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

Sooo rich that he just got pushed in the pool with his phone in his pocket and doesnt care.

[_Richard_]

didn't they get trolled off gfy when they started?

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by lazycash

14 day affiliate cookie for the win.

They changed that a long time ago, which is a shame was easier to make money with the 14 days than getting lifetime members.

[TeenCat]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

They changed that a long time ago, which is a shame was easier to make money with the 14 days than getting lifetime members.

strange isnt it?

[dicknipples]

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff

Sooo rich that he just got pushed in the pool with his phone in his pocket and doesnt care.

Pushed? Nah man, he jumped. Level of fucks given: all time low.