Captain Kawaii

US has always been a salad bowl, not a melting pot.

pornguy

That depends on where they are from. Mexican is NOT a race. They are either White hispanic or Indian Hispanic.

You can easily see the difference.

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Two reasons I never have, or will, use that term in regards to race/culture relations:

1) I HATE salad, just hate it. I'm not a rabbit

2) Salad bowl brings to mind tossing salad,

Melting pot is best. I think of cheese when I hear melting pot. I like cheese, melted cheese, of all types. yumm

Melting pot is not just becoming like "white" people, it's also "white" people becoming part of everything else, it goes both ways

MK Ultra

I'm from California, we're more a bowl of granola.

Sharpton is a racial opportunist, in the wake of the Sony hack when those purportedly "racist" emails came to light he persuaded Sony to employ him as a "Consultant on Race Relations" at I'm sure a hefty fee and now he sees the opportunity to get his grubby little mitts on the rest of the movie industry.

And Lord how the money rolls in

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dyna mo

lolz, you're posting from newport beach. easily one of the most gentrified cities on the entire planet.

Bladewire

No I'm posting from Monarch Beach where I live, in South Orange County.

dyna mo

ok.

Bladewire

5 year old race statistics, and?

Also, I GUARANTEE you, it's not 17% Hispanic here

My son went to school at Dana Hills High and he was a minority.

brassmonkey

oh lord bring in the gfy race charts

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dyna mo

I guess what I am saying is it's odd to me to see you clinging to a term that defines a failed bigoted idealogy because you don't like salad.

Grapesoda

solution, step the fuck up, be a black man that high quality people would like to associate with instead of a creepy black hood rat crying about getting fucked over by the man all day long .. just sayin'... you know?

dyna mo

what's wrong with the latest census result? are you saying there's been a fundamental shift is the # of blacks in dana point?


that % of hispanics is dynamic, it depends on the # of landscapers commuting in to trim your lawn(s).

Bladewire

and to invalidate my experience, in my neighborhood.

I know it's a hard concept to grasp but definitions change, as do ideologies. Bigoted is bigoted. If you see my explanation of multiculturalism living happily side by side in my neighborhood as not a bigoted melting pot then great, if not, then so be it. I could tell you stories about my black neighbors sons' struggle assimilating to living here after living in NY all his life but that doesn't fit the agenda of current "strained" race relations in America

dyna mo

I'm not surprised you'd discount actual facts and reality.

dyna mo

I didn't invalidate your experience. YOu stated you intend to continue to use the term "melting pot" for various reasons, I pointed out your'e doing that from a highly gentrified town.

that's actually validating your experience.

Bladewire

You are aware that most hispanics identify as, and tick, white right? SOURCE

It's the quality of people in a neighborhood that define it's value.

dyna mo

multi-culturalism and melting pot are not interchangeable. 2 entirely different theories.

Bladewire

The dictionary disagrees with you

melting pot
Syllabification: melt·ing pot
Pronunciation:
Definition of melting pot in English:
NOUN

1A pot in which metals or other materials are melted and mixed.
EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1A place where different peoples, styles, theories, etc., are mixed together:
a melting pot of disparate rhythms and cultures

dyna mo

that has nothing to do with my reply you are quoting, which wasn't a reply to you.

nevertheless, not sure where you are trying to spin my comments to, my comments here are

1. the etymology of the term melting pot is different that most think

2. Orange county coast is highly gentrified.


that's it. that's all I've stated here. Oh, and I've also pointed out assmonkey for being a ignoramus.

dyna mo

where in that definition is the word multi-culturalism?



hint- it's not anywhere in that definition.

dyna mo

the difference between multi-culturalism and melting pot

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Both multiculturalism and melting pot are terms that relate to the subject of diversity in society. These are two different outlooks on cultural diversity. The main difference between multiculturalism and melting pot theories is whether separate cultural groups should be encouraged or whether a country should have one basic cultural norm.

dyna mo

I haven't said anything to you to warrant this sort of shit. not to mention your distorting my other comment into some sort of questioning your experience.

you keep it adult and I'll keep it adult too. see assmonkey for details.

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Bladewire

Nah you were trying to throw shade on me as being either bigoted or ignorant of the old meaning of the term melting pot, not it's current definition in modern society



Last post here educating you dude man you're a lot of work trying to weasel yourself out of this

"place where different peoples, styles, theories, etc., are mixed together:
a melting pot of disparate rhythms and cultures"

Put the two underlined words together: disparate cultures - different cultures - multi cultural

Definition of disparate: essentially different in kind; not allowing comparison.

You're welcome

dyna mo

no, i was actually trying to add some humor to the topic so you would know I was trying to be chatty about a topic that interests me on 2 angles- etymology and cultural diversity.

Nevertheless, the fact you took my comment as an insult means I could have worded it better and for that I apologize.

dyna mo

I'm not weasling out of anything, I'm contributing.

perhaps some others reading this thread will appreciate my contributions to the thread.

Here's more on when the shift in embracing theories happened:

"Some Western countries such as the United States had more of a melting pot mentality about diversity before changing to a more multicultural policy by the 1980s. Many factors lead to changes in decisions about whether to back the melting pot approach or the multicultural aspect. Tensions between dominant and other cultures and questions about what constitutes equality are common motivators to rethink a society?s position on cultural diversity."

brassmonkey

thank god you dont run things

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Sharpton is on a tack to become one of the top ten biggest assholes of the past 50 years.

He's currently just one rung back of Falwell in fact.

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MaDalton

Who are #Oscars Voters?

-94% White
-77% Men
-2% Black
-2% Latino
->.5% Asian, Native combined

Oscar Voters: 94% White, 76% Men, and an Average of 63 Years Old - The Atlantic

there might be a connection..

at the same time: feeling entitled to be nominated based on color is stupid as well

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blackmonsters

I've read a few articles and the criticism of the nominations is not limited to black people who feel "entitled".

"Entitled" is just the buzzword you are going to use to dismiss the opinions of blacks while not acknowledging that plenty of non-blacks have the same opinion.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#s...ination+snubed

I personally don't give a shit about the Oscars; but you are calling out every black person alive with that entitlement bullshit.

It's more like you feel entitled to insult every black person alive when shit doesn't go your way.

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Horatio Caine

Thanks for speaking out for every black person who's feeling got hurt

blackmonsters

Your welcome; glad to see I'm doing a good job of what you're doing for the white community.

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L-Pink

When is someone going to bitch about the lack of white's starting in an NBA game?

MaDalton

i'm not getting into that discussion - there have been quite a few black Oscar winners by now.

Selma is nominated as best movie, crying racism because the director or main actor aren't won't get anyone anywhere

when next year a black director/actor gets nominated people will be asking whether it was only because Al Sharpton got angry enough and any black winner will always live in doubt if he/she really deserved it based on their skills or if it was a concession

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blackmonsters

I'm not really discussing the movie or who won the Oscar. Don't care.
Your use of "entitled" when it's just about some people thinking it was unfair is what I'm looking at.

This movie is about blacks over coming their oppression by the entitled; but yet they are seen as being entitled by you.

I guess those blacks marching in Selma must have felt entitled; and that is eating at the film academy the same way it's eating at you as you vote your rejection and sling the "entitlement slur".

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MaDalton

i don't get your point - the movie is nominated, for some reason the director and main actor are not

now Sharpton is crying racism as if that was the reason they were not nominated

maybe the academy considered others to be better?

following Sharptons logic the academy would need to nominate black people for being black - not because they were better than others

(not that in the history of the Oscars always the "best" person had won anyways)

And in reality Weinstein decides who gets an Oscar - complain with him

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blackmonsters

Well I don't get your point about "entitlement".

You don't get my point that I don't care about the Oscars.
It's more about how you expressed yourself in a way that makes it seem like the complaints are legitimate.

Your use of "entitlement" is just the new age "uppity negro" remark.

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MaDalton

once you can speak german as I do english we can discuss my choice of words more thoroughly

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blackmonsters

Oh yes, your supremacy shines though.

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dyna mo

reparations!

















i keed.

nico-t

brassmonkey, it's been a whole page, we need your highly intellectual 4 cents again.

fappingJack

This thread is gaining more responses than i thought.

iamBoogieman

Hollywood sucks.

L-Pink

I can't wait until someone asks for a moment of silence in remembrance of Sharpton. I'm saving a big fart for the occasion.

Captain Kawaii

You might HATE it but it is the reality of things. Melting Pot assumes all groups assimilate and merge with one another. Worldwide, and not just behind the "Orange Curtain" but people do not mix well. Remember the old saying "if you want to work somewhere dress like they do for the interview." (Maybe its an east coast thing, I don't know.) People congregate with similar people.

Europe is proving, UK is proving that multiculturalism as a whole is a failure. Its not human nature. Its capitalism's dream but not humans. If you check demographic stats you will see most/many US neighborhoods are segregating all on their own.

Its not a race thing necessarily...it is a values thing.

Most of the actors under 30 SUCK in Hollywood. I'm surprised they can still manage to scrape together an Oscars or Golden Globes at all.

Check the hispanic vs the white vs the black birth rates in Southern California. There's the so-called melting pot.

Captain Kawaii

Maybe Currently Sober can fill up the grave.

Horatio Caine

You are so going to negro hell for this

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