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Shap · 10-14-2004, 01:00 PM

They were just awarded a patent.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=5647

pornguy · 10-14-2004, 01:01 PM

Can we get the cliff notes please???

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:02 PM

XPays Principals Awarded U.S. Patent For Internet Based Affiliate Pooling

San Francisco, October 14, 2004 -- XPays Inc. (www.XPays.com) is
pleased to announce that the United States Patent & Trademark Office
has issued U.S. Patent No 6,804,660, covering XPays' innovative
affiliate pooling technology which enables Virtual Affiliate?
advertising on the Internet. XPays principals Evan Horowitz and
Michael Landau have previously assigned their invention to their
sister company Essociate Inc. (www.Essociate.com).

"The originality of our affiliate pooling technology is confirmed by
the issuance of our first patent, and the continued growth of our
business validates the strength of the model," said Horowitz, CEO and
co-founder of XPays and Essociate. "This patent is indicative of the
foresight and innovation necessary to develop a unique affiliate
advertising network within a complex and dynamic industry. After our
initial launch in 1998, XPays endeavored to diversify its affiliate
program in mid-1999 and soon after Affiliate Pooling became the core of the XPays system."

"Considering our tremendous respect for intellectual property rights,
it is very gratifying to receive this type of acknowledgemnt from the
Patent and Trademark Office," added Landau, CTO and co-founder of both
companies.

XPays is an industry leader in the competitive performance-based
Internet advertising market, bringing together a variety of online
merchants and affiliates using the patented Affiliate Pooling model.
XPays currently partners with more than 12,000 affiliates, offering a
variety of merchants' goods and services to promote. By providing an
evolving set of tools for affiliates and merchants to combine their
resources via the XPays model, merchants have increased their brand
awareness and affiliates have profited from a stable and competitive
revenue source.

More information on U.S. Patent 6,804,660 is located at
<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...number=6804660> or a
PDF may be downloaded from
<http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf>.

Manowar · 10-14-2004, 01:03 PM

"According to the terms of the invention, the patent covers a system for affording Virtual Affiliates access to an existing affiliate system by configuring an existing target affiliate to receive referrals from many webmasters in an affiliate pool."

They patented webmaster refferals ?

BigWebRev · 10-14-2004, 01:04 PM

this should get good

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:04 PM

WiredGuy · 10-14-2004, 01:05 PM

Patent Details: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...0&f =S&d=PALL

Abstract
---
The present invention provides a method, system and computer program for affording Virtual Affiliates access to an existing affiliate system. First, having been assigned a unique identifier within a source affiliate system, a Webmaster operates a web site. Next, a request for a target Merchant Web site triggers a correlation function, such that the source Webmaster unique identifier is correlated to a target Webmaster unique identifier functional within the unique identification system of the requested Merchant system. Next, a properly formatted entry mechanism URL is returned, enabling a hand off to the target Merchant affiliate system and including the correlated target Webmaster unique identifier. The Virtual Affiliate system is notified of transactions that originated from a referring Webmaster. Referring Webmasters may be compensated for each completed transaction according to agreed-upon terms and conditions.
---

In other words (and my interpretation), statistical tracking of sales and other identification information (hits, uniques, etc.) broken down by each webmaster through the merchant system (ie: CC or check processors) in which webmasters can be paid accordingly.

WG

brand0n · 10-14-2004, 01:06 PM

youve gotta be kidding

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:06 PM

the patent is very specific

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:07 PM

a thread title like "congrats to our peers at XPays" would have been sexier

Phoenix · 10-14-2004, 01:08 PM

haha nice

Anthony_A · 10-14-2004, 01:09 PM

Manowar · 10-14-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
a thread title like "congrats to our peers at XPays" would have been sexier

are you guys going to be looking for licensing rights from other programs with webmaster refferal programs then ?

brand0n · 10-14-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
are you guys going to be looking for licensing rights from other programs with webmaster refferal programs then ?

uchase/webpry · 10-14-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
a thread title like "congrats to our peers at XPays" would have been sexier

... congrats.

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
are you guys going to be looking for licensing rights from other programs with webmaster refferal programs then ?

your comments and question are based on your own misperception- read the patent

Manowar · 10-14-2004, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
your comments and question are based on your own misperception- read the patent

i dont get it. It sounds like a patent on WM Refferal. But congrats anyway

Shap · 10-14-2004, 01:12 PM

Sorry Evan. There's no Drama in "Congratulations to Xpays". This title has more potential to win me an xbox.

Seriously though... I'm no expert, from my understanding basically every affiliate program is currently infringing on your patent. Is this correct?

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
i dont get it. It sounds like a patent on WM Refferal. But congrats anyway

Thank you! We will be issuing statements next month and appreciate the congratulations. We have waited years for this day to come

jacked · 10-14-2004, 01:13 PM

this could get messy

Jace · 10-14-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
your comments and question are based on your own misperception- read the patent

i think i understand it, but can you break it down in non-legalese?

brand0n · 10-14-2004, 01:13 PM

could you put this in laymen terms for us?

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap
Sorry Evan. There's no Drama in "Congratulations to Xpays". This title has more potential to win me an xbox.

Seriously though... I'm no expert, from my understanding basically every affiliate program is currently infringing on your patent. Is this correct?

No- not at all- the patent is very very specific

Jace · 10-14-2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
could you put this in laymen terms for us?

Rich · 10-14-2004, 01:14 PM

My lawyer isn't going to be able to explain this to me until next week, can anyone explain the difference between this "affiliate pooling" and a regular affiliate program?

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
could you put this in laymen terms for us?

We do not want to pigeonhole ourselves. So, as of the moment we will be a bit careful. I look forward to discussing the patent for many years to come. The uspto added 3 years of life to it too btw.

Shap · 10-14-2004, 01:16 PM

Ok cool, I'm wrong.

In your estimation what percentage of adult affiliate programs are currently infringing on your patent?

Btw you guys must be very excited.

WiredGuy · 10-14-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
We do not want to pigeonhole ourselves. So, as of the moment we will be a bit careful. I look forward to discussing the patent for many years to come. The uspto added 3 years of life to it too btw.

Nicely said

WG

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap
Ok cool, I'm wrong. In your estimation what percentage of adult affiliate programs are currently infringing on your patent?

Btw you guys must be very excited.

I can't answer that question just yet other than to repeat that the patent is very specific.

Rich · 10-14-2004, 01:23 PM

To me it sounds like any program that puts together several products/sites for a pool of affiliates to promote. I see a lot of specifics but they all seem to be pretty standard for a lot of affiliate programs. If I'm even close to being right there's no way this is going to stand up in court.

I'll post the comments from my attorney next week.

Vitasoy · 10-14-2004, 01:23 PM

I sense a little drama sprewing.

minimouse · 10-14-2004, 01:24 PM

Now why did I read this thread, Xpays can you explain in detail what your patent covers other than saying that it's very specific.

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
To me it sounds like any program that puts together several products/sites for a pool of affiliates to promote. I see a lot of specifics but they all seem to be pretty standard for a lot of affiliate programs. If I'm even close to being right there's no way this is going to stand up in court.

I'll post the comments from my attorney next week.

You left out the keys my friend. Let us know what your attorney says

Your summary is not accurate.

VIPimp · 10-14-2004, 01:26 PM

Is dollars.com infringing on this patent?

johnbosh · 10-14-2004, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shap
They were just awarded a patent.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=5647

lol its going on again

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by minimouse
Now why did I read this thread, Xpays can you explain in detail what your patent covers other than saying that it's very specific.

Hi- one of the aspects of filing a patent, rather than just maintaining trade secrets, is that it gets published. Please read it.

minimouse · 10-14-2004, 01:28 PM

Fuck this I'm going to patent tgps.

M_M · 10-14-2004, 01:30 PM

Simple question. Is Adult.com infringing?

XPays · 10-14-2004, 01:33 PM

here is the pdf download again for anyone who wants to inspect the goods

http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf

huey · 10-14-2004, 01:33 PM

Whatever

Doctor Dre · 10-14-2004, 01:34 PM

They will sue every program or what ?

Rich · 10-14-2004, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
You left out the keys my friend. Let us know what your attorney says

Your summary is not accurate.

I didn't really summarize it, as you can see from my first post I'm asking if anyone has an understanding of what sets this patent apart from the systems used by most affiliate programs. As I said I see the specifics or "keys" you're talking about, but as of right now I do not understand which of them is unique. More explanation from your side would be super, but I'm not expecting it.

pornstar2pac · 10-14-2004, 01:35 PM

Larry Flynt just called. Hustler will settle

Rich · 10-14-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
Larry Flynt just called. Hustler will settle

lol

Epic Cash has already sent them a check.

minimouse · 10-14-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
Larry Flynt just called. Hustler will settle

Shap · 10-14-2004, 01:42 PM

I may be wrong. Someone else mentioned it, it sounds like dollars.com may be infringing on this.

I think the ibill stress has fried my brain. I can't make any sense of this VERY SPECIFIC patent. I'm looking forward to the translation.

M_M · 10-14-2004, 01:43 PM

You should start sueing soon. We need some action on GFY

PornGeneral · 10-14-2004, 01:48 PM

Rochard · 10-14-2004, 01:49 PM

I loved this part:

"Considering our tremendous respect for intellectual property rights, it is very gratifying to receive this type of acknowledgement from the Patent and Trademark Office," Landau said in a statement. "

Respect?

Sorry guys, there is already a lot of software out there that does this. Your about ten years too late. You can't fucking patent an idea.

EZRhino · 10-14-2004, 01:52 PM

I'm not hearing many answers outside read the patent. Lets hear more about the specifics of the specificaly written patent.
Is having a affiliate program at all, in violation? Is there a specific script or algorythm that is patented? Percentage of difference do have to have in my program to make me compliant?

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XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	XPays Principals Awarded U.S. Patent For Internet Based Affiliate Pooling San Francisco, October 14, 2004 -- XPays Inc. (www.XPays.com) is pleased to announce that the United States Patent & Trademark Office has issued U.S. Patent No 6,804,660, covering XPays' innovative affiliate pooling technology which enables Virtual Affiliate? advertising on the Internet. XPays principals Evan Horowitz and Michael Landau have previously assigned their invention to their sister company Essociate Inc. (www.Essociate.com). "The originality of our affiliate pooling technology is confirmed by the issuance of our first patent, and the continued growth of our business validates the strength of the model," said Horowitz, CEO and co-founder of XPays and Essociate. "This patent is indicative of the foresight and innovation necessary to develop a unique affiliate advertising network within a complex and dynamic industry. After our initial launch in 1998, XPays endeavored to diversify its affiliate program in mid-1999 and soon after Affiliate Pooling became the core of the XPays system." "Considering our tremendous respect for intellectual property rights, it is very gratifying to receive this type of acknowledgemnt from the Patent and Trademark Office," added Landau, CTO and co-founder of both companies. XPays is an industry leader in the competitive performance-based Internet advertising market, bringing together a variety of online merchants and affiliates using the patented Affiliate Pooling model. XPays currently partners with more than 12,000 affiliates, offering a variety of merchants' goods and services to promote. By providing an evolving set of tools for affiliates and merchants to combine their resources via the XPays model, merchants have increased their brand awareness and affiliates have profited from a stable and competitive revenue source. More information on U.S. Patent 6,804,660 is located at <http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...number=6804660> or a PDF may be downloaded from <http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf>. __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

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