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goBigtime · 10-14-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Who's to say he wont try and sue Rick from Dollars.com or the folks over at CJ.COM?

CJ isn't the only one.

There seriously needs to be software patent reform.

This bullshit is getting out of control.

XPays · 10-14-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Somewhere out there right now in legal land an office full of attorneys are sharpening their pencils, looking at lists of companies in our industry and drooling from their fanged vile mouths.

USPTO is filled with clueless patent examiners when it comes to the Internet sector.

Hi Krl-
Can you please add http://GiveTech.org to your sig? Michael and I founded GiveTech a while ago and it is a 501(c)3 with 100% of the donations and grants going to assist qualified applicants. And before anyone says it is some sort of tax sheltar for us- absolutely not- as a matter of fact, because we are involved, we cannot even deduct all the operating expenses that we cover out of pocket. We get zero tax benefit and GiveTech.org is purely philanthropic.

XPays · 10-14-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
Hi Krl-
Can you please add http://GiveTech.org to your sig? Michael and I founded GiveTech a while ago and it is a 501(c)3 with 100% of the donations and grants going to assist qualified applicants. And before anyone says it is some sort of tax sheltar for us- absolutely not- as a matter of fact, because we are involved, we cannot even deduct all the operating expenses that we cover out of pocket. We get zero tax benefit and GiveTech.org is purely philanthropic.

D-Money · 10-14-2004, 05:05 PM

Here's what I'm gathering from this thread.

But before I give my comments, HUGE congrats to Evan & Michael from XPays.

It's been tough for them since their days of being seen everywhere as one of the adult internets premiere affiliate programs. People like Speakthetruth still try and give little jabs about the Microsoft allegations and discredit the genius behind a program that actually invented something great for our industry. Appearantly M$ didn't have an overwhelmingly convincing case if it's been settled so quickly. If they had a great case against them, it would have been stretched out for several more years and a loss of millions of dollars. So, let's not try to poke holes in the matter at hand. Being a hater doesn't make you more money, just makes you look like a hater.

Why are people so quick to hate on a patent holder? I would listen to Far-L and FightThePatent's opinions over 99% of the people in this thread and they seem to think XPays invented something. Most people won't need to worry about this patent unless an infringer doesn't license their patent. Then that infringer puts their affiliates and business partners at risk. So if you feel a certain program is infringing, don't yell at Evan, go talk to the program in question and ask them their views on this and what their plans are to resolve these issues.

Evan needs more of a pat on the back then a slap across his face.

Shap · 10-14-2004, 05:25 PM

Most of us were too lazy to read and actually attempt comprehend the patent. Now that fightthepatent and others have translated it for us it is starting to make sense. Evan and Mike patented what they worked hard to create. Can't have any hate towards that. Congrats.

Crypt · 10-14-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
I suspect this has more to do with dollars.com than anything else.

yup and they never reply to post about this to , but all gay post are replied ...

D-Money · 10-14-2004, 05:37 PM

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quote:Originally posted by xxxjay
I suspect this has more to do with dollars.com than anything else.

Originally posted by Crypt
yup and they never reply to post about this to , but all gay post are replied ...

So are you saying XPays timed the release date of this patent for 10/12/04 intentionally?

They must have some good friends at the USPTO

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
We do not want to pigeonhole ourselves. So, as of the moment we will be a bit careful. I look forward to discussing the patent for many years to come. The uspto added 3 years of life to it too btw.

What the hell is going on here?

I read the patent ...
I read the thread ..

Am I the only one confused here? ...

Where is FightThisPatent.com when you need them ...
stand by

DWB · 10-14-2004, 05:43 PM

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:43 PM

What the hell happened to FightThisPatent.com?

grrrr

XPays · 10-14-2004, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
What the hell is going on here?

I read the patent ...
I read the thread ..

Am I the only one confused here? ...

Where is FightThisPatent.com when you need them ...
stand by

Do not pollute this thread. If you have any questions call my office tomorrow or email me your number. Be professional- this is not the time or place for you to engage. And you did not read this thread as you claim. Please Do Not Post Here Sir. We have worked too hard to get to this point and it is time for you to show some professionalism.

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
What the hell happened to FightThisPatent.com?

grrrr

Am I the only one which can not reach the "FightThisPatent.com" website?

Brandon you out there?

D-Money · 10-14-2004, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by XPays

XPays · 10-14-2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Am I the only one which can not reach the "FightThisPatent.com" website?

Brandon you out there?

Read the thread again. FightThisPatent has posted. Stop what are you doing right now and read and then keep your thoughts to yourself until you have a chance to do your research.

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Do not pollute this thread. If you have any questions call my office tomorrow or email me your number. Be professional- this is not the time or place for you to engage. And you did not read this thread as you claim. Please Do Not Post Here Sir. We have worked too hard to get to this point and it is time for you to show some professionalism.

I read the friggen patent do not challenge the MasterBlogger ...
I have no professionalism to risk ..

I will re-read this thread again ...

I am telling you I do NOT understand the patent.

Explain it simple terms for the simple folk like myself ...

one paragraph - what are you claiming ...

FightThisPatent · 10-14-2004, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Am I the only one which can not reach the "FightThisPatent.com" website?

The website is http://www.FightThePatent.com

Fight the Confused!

XPays · 10-14-2004, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I read the friggen patent do not challenge the MasterBlogger ...
I have no professionalism to risk ..

I will re-read this thread again ...

I am telling you I do NOT understand the patent.

Explain it simple terms for the simple folk like myself ...

one paragraph - what are you claiming ...

All your questions have been addressed. Stop what you are doing and read the thread. I am very concerned about your reputation tarnishing the meaning of this thread and appreciate your understanding. Your fault or not, masterblogger or not, your reputation needs fixing. Start by showing some professionalism.

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
The website is http://www.FightThePatent.com

Fight the Confused!

whew ...
sorry ...
thanx ...

Brandon is one of them most respected internet advocates that exist.

When he told me to stay out of his threads - I did.

I do what he tells me to do or not do.
Period.

FightThisPatent · 10-14-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
Explain it simple terms for the simple folk like myself ...

one paragraph - what are you claiming ...

They have alot of paragraphs of claims.... i tried to summarize it in my posts on page 3

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenum ber=3

Fight the Linking within the same thread!

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
They have alot of paragraphs of claims.... i tried to summarize it in my posts on page 3

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagenum ber=3

Fight the Linking within the same thread!

okay ...
I'm on my way thanx ...

Adultlexicon · 10-14-2004, 06:03 PM

housewinnings.com ??

FightThisPatent · 10-14-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Adultlexicon
housewinnings.com ??

There are alot of mainstream companies doing the virtual affiliate thing. housewinnings.com eventually leads to http://www.quinstreet.com/ for the company that does the actual marketplace work.

Most of them started doing business well past May 1999, so they all could be under the targets of Xpays' patent.

A poster put up earlier some mainstream companies that they felt were prior art... if there is prior art, then the patent should be invalidated. If there is no prior art, then the patent holds up to the USPTO's awarding of the patent.

Any patent holder should welcome prior art scrutiny.. of course Acacia said this, and they got what they asked for.. lots of prior art....

(many thanks to people like Gateway and Squirt who came up with some great finds along with my own research, to present the prior art finds to over 2 dozen defense patent firms, including one major cable company).

Fight the Schemes and Scams!

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 06:14 PM

I will be contacting Ezernet.com which seems to have been doing this for ages ...

Originally called Free-Banners.com ... but now they have expanded multiple times over many years since I first started with them ...

they did JUST THAT it appears ...

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 06:16 PM

One login for multiple affiliate programs ...

Free-Banners.com ...
check them out and THEIR SERVICE is awesome ...

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 06:20 PM

Xpays ...never insult me again or you will pay a price.
Is that crystal?

ztik · 10-14-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
247media (Jan 99), Valueclick (98), Burstmedia, DoubleClick (97-98) and a bunch of others did this in 1997-98-99

I remember when burst came out, there was shit even before them that was pretty much the same thing

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
I remember when burst came out, there was shit even before them that was pretty much the same thing

That's exactly what we need according to Brandon and the Acacia issue ...

proof of prior existing technology to what they are claiming ..

Xpay it's sounding like you are an Acacia wannabe ...
IMO

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by 4Pics
247media (Jan 99), Valueclick (98), Burstmedia, DoubleClick (97-98) and a bunch of others did this in 1997-98-99

Ezernet.com was prior to all those I believe.

media · 10-14-2004, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Your fault or not, masterblogger or not, your reputation needs fixing. Start by showing some professionalism.

Don't worry Evan.. 9/10ths of this board has him on ignore...

Don't let this troll work you up...

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by media
Don't worry Evan.. 9/10ths of this board has him on ignore...

Don't let this troll work you up...

Start by contacting Ezernet before you break out the champaign ...

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 07:29 PM

And he is already worked up ...
and he should be if Brandon of FightThePatent.com does not stop me from being on his case ...

like very worked up ...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-14-2004, 07:36 PM

XPAYS 2005 - When Adult Strikes Back.

sexeducation · 10-14-2004, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
XPAYS 2005 - When Adult Strikes Back.

huh?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-14-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
huh?

XPays · 10-15-2004, 12:53 AM

Thank you for this thread GFY

Theo · 10-15-2004, 01:06 AM

BRISK · 10-15-2004, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I have no professionalism to risk

That's for sure

BRISK · 10-15-2004, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Xpays ...never insult me again or you will pay a price.
Is that crystal?

XPays · 10-15-2004, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

good one

hopefully this one will be #2 http://www.essociate.com/patents/20020082919.pdf

(which is the x2u program within xpays where we payout like normal on the lifetime of your emails with us. all of the links track on your emails in x2u, auto-responder, content area, the mailer, etc..)

Theo · 10-15-2004, 01:22 AM

emailerotica.com will love this last patent

foolio · 10-15-2004, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
I have no professionalism to risk ..

LOL - fucking great

foolio · 10-15-2004, 01:36 AM

I have read every post here -

I think the thing that sits the best with me is the support from FightThisPatent. To me that goes a very long way.

So congrats

XPays · 10-15-2004, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
emailerotica.com will love this last patent

i will be frank on this one- we were cheap bastards who did not want to pay $1 per email address like EVERYONE else was. The good thing is that companies have earned substantially more on their X2U addresses than $1 per raw address.

http://www.essociate.com/patents/20020082919.pdf

XPays · 10-15-2004, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foolio
I have read every post here -

I think the thing that sits the best with me is the support from FightThisPatent. To me that goes a very long way.

So congrats

Thank you! I have to agree with FightThisPatent about innovation happening first in adult too.

D-Money · 10-15-2004, 01:48 AM

I know FightThePatent does his homework, and he's a pretty fuckin' smart guy.

If there's holes in a patent, he'd find them right away.

gideongallery · 10-15-2004, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
No- not at all- the patent is very very specific

it looks like it is for sub account tracking,

Theo · 10-15-2004, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
i will be frank on this one- we were cheap bastards who did not want to pay $1 per email address like EVERYONE else was. The good thing is that companies have earned substantially more on their X2U addresses than $1 per raw address.

http://www.essociate.com/patents/20020082919.pdf

Two cheap bastards since Maxacash has been doing the same for some time. I'll have a look at the doc later on out of curiosity.

XPays · 10-15-2004, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Two cheap bastards since Maxacash has been doing the same for some tim. I'll have a look at the doc later on out of curiosity.

They launched I believe like a year later than X2U with their upsell bonus, as did CE and Join4Free. All were after. I saved their announcement emails even

HomeTown_Hero · 10-15-2004, 02:20 AM

enough of this patent shit already

HomeTown_Hero · 10-15-2004, 02:23 AM

This one will get struck down just like ACACIA

10-14-2004, 05:05 PM	#154
D-Money Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Player Del Ray Posts: 9,716	Here's what I'm gathering from this thread. But before I give my comments, HUGE congrats to Evan & Michael from XPays. It's been tough for them since their days of being seen everywhere as one of the adult internets premiere affiliate programs. People like Speakthetruth still try and give little jabs about the Microsoft allegations and discredit the genius behind a program that actually invented something great for our industry. Appearantly M$ didn't have an overwhelmingly convincing case if it's been settled so quickly. If they had a great case against them, it would have been stretched out for several more years and a loss of millions of dollars. So, let's not try to poke holes in the matter at hand. Being a hater doesn't make you more money, just makes you look like a hater. Why are people so quick to hate on a patent holder? I would listen to Far-L and FightThePatent's opinions over 99% of the people in this thread and they seem to think XPays invented something. Most people won't need to worry about this patent unless an infringer doesn't license their patent. Then that infringer puts their affiliates and business partners at risk. So if you feel a certain program is infringing, don't yell at Evan, go talk to the program in question and ask them their views on this and what their plans are to resolve these issues. Evan needs more of a pat on the back then a slap across his face. __________________ Still Ballin'

10-14-2004, 07:36 PM	#182
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10-15-2004, 12:53 AM	#185
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10-15-2004, 01:36 AM	#192
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	I have read every post here - I think the thing that sits the best with me is the support from FightThisPatent. To me that goes a very long way. So congrats __________________

10-15-2004, 01:48 AM	#195
D-Money Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Player Del Ray Posts: 9,716	I know FightThePatent does his homework, and he's a pretty fuckin' smart guy. If there's holes in a patent, he'd find them right away. __________________ Still Ballin'

10-14-2004, 05:25 PM	#155
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Most of us were too lazy to read and actually attempt comprehend the patent. Now that fightthepatent and others have translated it for us it is starting to make sense. Evan and Mike patented what they worked hard to create. Can't have any hate towards that. Congrats.

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10-14-2004, 05:43 PM	#160
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	What the hell happened to FightThisPatent.com? grrrr

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10-14-2004, 06:14 PM	#173
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	I will be contacting Ezernet.com which seems to have been doing this for ages ... Originally called Free-Banners.com ... but now they have expanded multiple times over many years since I first started with them ... they did JUST THAT it appears ...

10-14-2004, 06:16 PM	#174
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	One login for multiple affiliate programs ... Free-Banners.com ... check them out and THEIR SERVICE is awesome ...

10-14-2004, 06:20 PM	#175
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	Xpays ...never insult me again or you will pay a price. Is that crystal?

10-14-2004, 06:49 PM	#178
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	Originally posted by 4Pics 247media (Jan 99), Valueclick (98), Burstmedia, DoubleClick (97-98) and a bunch of others did this in 1997-98-99 Ezernet.com was prior to all those I believe.

10-14-2004, 07:29 PM	#181
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	And he is already worked up ... and he should be if Brandon of FightThePatent.com does not stop me from being on his case ... like very worked up ...

10-15-2004, 01:06 AM	#186
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10-15-2004, 01:22 AM	#190
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	emailerotica.com will love this last patent

10-15-2004, 02:20 AM	#199
HomeTown_Hero Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North East Jabumfuck Posts: 415	enough of this patent shit already __________________ fuck you

10-15-2004, 02:23 AM	#200
HomeTown_Hero Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North East Jabumfuck Posts: 415	This one will get struck down just like ACACIA __________________ fuck you