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Old 02-25-2015, 03:12 PM   #101
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Cool, comrade. Very cool. It's so bad that Russian communist party consider him as enemy (they also consider Gorbachev as enemy too). But what's about may question indeed?

P.S. Gorbachev about Crimea: "Returning of Crimea is a happiness"
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:14 PM   #102
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But wait. It was a thread about personal freedoms. Don't try to turn it into a political one. Just answer to my question from the very first post

Just answer to my question, please
Ok, I've been saving my trump card.



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Old 02-25-2015, 03:17 PM   #103
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Ok, I've been saving my trump card
Reading wikipedia about communism in Russia?
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What do you mean on "different"?* I love my country and I hate my government (a bunch of morons). In fact this thread was about personal freedom only, but not about political situation here or there. I've asked the guy to tell me what he can do in the States but I can't here. As you can see, he was unable to answer. His post about Russian communist party was just epic however
You've accused Mo and a few others here of basing their opinions solely on what they've seen in "the news" and "biased western media". I was attempting to illustrate to you that that may not entirely be the case. It isn't with me, and I wouldn't be surprised one witt if Dyna Mo, Sly, porn nerd, etc have also had similar experiences of hearing things first hand from actual former Russians or people who have been or lived there for a time.

* Different as in not in agreement with your rosey assessments or views.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:20 PM   #105
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Different as in not in agreement with your rosey assessments or views.
Continue please. I mean be a bit more specific here.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:21 PM   #106
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Reading wikipedia about communism in Russia?
as I mentioned a few times, I'm learning more in this thread, I took you challenge and have enjoyed myseld as well as getting better acquainted with the reality of the current times and politics in communist Russia.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:30 PM   #108
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Freedom? How about media freedom? No comparison.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:33 PM   #109
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communist Russia.
There is no communist Russia since 1990. It happened even before the collapse of Soviet Union after mass demonstrations in Moscow (look at the picture below):



Soviet people have decided than they don't want communist party to rule the country. They came to the Red Square to tell it. After that event, 6th paragraph of Soviet Constitution was removed, and Soviet Union was not communist anymore. Yes, that's how real democracy works. Remember it was Soviet Union, not Russian Federation.

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Freedom? How about media freedom? No comparison.
There is no media freedom when we talk about big corporations.
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CyberSEO, you prolly think the cold war ended too.
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Continue please. I mean be a bit more specific here.
But that would require me to go back and reread all your recent and not so recent posts, something I'm simply not willing to do.

Suffice it to say I have read a lot of your posts, in this and several other threads, and have on several occasions noted examples of you painting Russia or "the Russian point of view" as being superior to that of the US, or "the ridiculous evild and stupid west" (which I assume also includes Canada), yet as I said there are many Russian immigrants over here who've said and shared things that differ from your views. That's all. They're here for a reason, after all. Most I've spoken to have said they felt far freer (and/or safer in general, better future, etc) than they did back in Russia. Of course your perspective might be that they are all traitorous heathens for all I know.

Millions of them are over here in N America to be a bit more exact. Millions. Conversely I don't see millions of Canadians or Americans clamboring to go live in Russia anytime soon though. That alone should tell you just how tenuous your position is on a lot of issues you've wieghed in on.

Btw, just a word of friendly advice; Scoffing with "you're all morons" and overuse of the laughing smiley a-la-crussificio only gets you so far in these rather amusing threads. Then an actual discussion has to break out or else the bottom falls out. :D
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:47 PM   #112
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CyberSEO, you prolly think the cold war ended too.
Course not. Russia has pulled back its army from Germany and other European countries, closed its military bases (e.g. on Cuba and Vietnam) while NATO has started expending to the East of Europe right to the Russian borders. Even an idiot understands what does it mean...
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:51 PM   #113
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But that would require me to go back and reread all your recent and not so recent posts, something I'm simply not willing to do.
In this case your post has no sense at all, sorry.

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which I assume also includes Canada
No, I'm not talking about Canada or Mexico.
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There is no media freedom when we talk about big corporations.

What the fuck are you deflecting now? Talk about well trained. The subject is Media freedom, is Russia even close to the US? Can you publicly joke and criticize the military/government/officials/Putin?

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Old 02-25-2015, 03:59 PM   #115
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The subject is Media freedom, is Russia even close to the US?
The subject is a personal freedom. And yes, Russian media is the same shit as the US one. Just a propaganda and nothing else. The problem is that you can't watch Russian news while I can watch yours. Don't even try to argue with me on that.

You guys are so funny. When you can't answer to a simple question (note the first post of the thread), you are trying to flood it with misleading shit.
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The subject is a personal freedom. And yes, Russian media is the same shit as the US one. Just a propaganda and nothing else. The problem is that you can't watch Russian news while I can watch yours. Don't even try to argue with me on that.

You guys are so funny. When you can't answer to a simple question (note the first post of the thread), you are trying to flood it with misleading shit.
Yea, personal freedom to express yourself in the media. Russian idiot. Why do you always go off on a rant?
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This thread is epic..

But I still want to visit Russia some day to see things with my own eyes..

Maybe one day I can drink a wodka/vodka with CyberSEO. I'm from the Netherlands and I get the feeling that we see a lot of propaganda in the media. I just want to experience things with my own eyes.
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Soviet people have decided than they don't want communist party to rule the country. They came to the Red Square to tell it. After that event, 6th paragraph of Soviet Constitution was removed, and Soviet Union was not communist anymore. Yes, that's how real democracy works. Remember it was Soviet Union, not Russian Federation.
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Glub glub glub
I make wodka in my tub
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And my English I flub

I am Russian
I suffer from consussion
There is no discussion
I am batshit crazy drunken.

(I am hoping song gets through to Comrade Cock Jockey.)

Personal freedom is easy if you are a meglomaniacal sociopath who disregards all laws and societal conventions. WooHoo! Drink up Ivan!!
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Yea, personal freedom to express yourself in the media. Russian idiot. Why do you always go off on a rant?
I have a personal freedom to express myself in the media. For example, GFY is a public media too and I have no problems expressing myself here. So what's your problem again? If you are talking about TV media, so nobody has invited me there. However you you are an opposition leader like Navalny who has never been invited to federal TV (he always calls Putin a thief and criminal), can do it via commercial channels like "Дождь". E.g.:







etc.. So where is the problem with expression of personal freedom to express yourself in the media? It looks like propaganda is very strong in you

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Maybe one day I can drink a wodka/vodka with CyberSEO. I'm from the Netherlands and I get the feeling that we see a lot of propaganda in the media. I just want to experience things with my own eyes.
There is definitely a lot from propaganda from the both sides. However Russian one is a bit smarter. I mean the here doesn't say there is still slavery in the States, while some Americans thought that Russia is still ruled by commies. This is an absolute nonsense.

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I don't know why did you post it here, but he is not drunk. He's seriously seek.



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oh yes, for sure it was like that
Why do you laugh? I still remember those times. Also there is a link to a detailed article about it. Why don't you just read it and make yourself a bit more educated? Yes, I understand what reading historical articles in not yours. Here is a very short version from Wikipedia: Article 6 of the Soviet Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (there are no names of initiators, dates of debates and no information about mass demonstration on Red Square with demands to change the Constitution). If was Soviet Union...
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Why not? It's all about money. MSome guy here has mail ordered Naomi Cable when he wanted to have a fun with her. But she's got too old for him now and he've got rid of her. On the other hand, she was really something special, while the regular American women are below the level. What sane person will wan to order them?
If you meant Naomi "Campbell", she's British.

If you really meant Naomi "Cable", then nevermind.
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If you really meant Naomi "Cable", then nevermind.
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I didn't fail to realize that. I've just told you that you are paying big money for all those shitty US spying satellites that can't deliver any real proof of Russian invasion in the Ukraine. Don't you feel ripped off?
I guess something must be lost in translation ... are you suggesting there is no proof that Russia invaded Ukraine?
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I guess something must be lost in translation ... are you suggesting there is no proof that Russia invaded Ukraine?
Personally I do believe some military Russian units are there, but I didn't see any proof from the US intelligence. Even before the Iraqi intervention you were much more convincing



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If you really meant Naomi "Cable", then nevermind.
Who cares, really? When you have money you can afford all of 'em
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Rooski potz, saying 'I love my country' in Russia would mean you love your 'vata' environment, your fucked up lifestyle and many other ridiculous backward cases, saying that means you do associate yourself with that mental hack and DNA wreck that's been happening in Russia for decades. And, as you love to say, do not argue with me on that, moron.
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