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stonehammer · 03-14-2015, 11:19 AM

porn has always been about the sexual kind of FANTASY

stop making content that comes from the 1990s.....u need to TAP into the sexual fantasies of today.....

for example 50 shades of grey....thats a good example of what women are thinking about.

and what do guys fantasize about nowadays ?.....its not about going to a massage parlor for a happy ending...we can pay for that anytime we want to....its not called a fantasy if we can do it ourselves regularly...

ex-gf niche is a good example of a 'fantasy' that was tapped into.

Harmon · 03-14-2015, 11:21 AM

Allow me to interject, if you will?

I find your story extremely intriguing, my brethren. So much so, that I wish you would do us all of the kind favor and tell it again.

Best regards.

Struggle4Bucks · 03-14-2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stonehammer

for example 50 shades of grey....thats a good example of what women are thinking about.

50 shades of grey isn't about bdsm... It's about a filthy rich, but hurt due to things in his past, high status male that falls in love with a everyday non-special woman like so many out there... and he will do anything to win her heart and she is the only one who can change and heal him.... He NEEDS her... that's why all woman are getting wet pussies... not because of some rope and some whips...

In your 50 shades theory... porn should be: a crying man getting comforted by a woman...

slapass · 03-14-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

50 shades of grey isn't about bdsm... It's about a filthy rich, but hurt due to things in his past, high status male that falls in love with a everyday non-special woman like so many out there... and he will do anything to win her heart and she is the only one who can change and heal him.... He NEEDS her... that's why all woman are getting wet pussies... not because of some rope and some whips...

In your 50 shades theory... porn should be: a crying man getting comforted by a woman...

And the woman needs to be very plain and non-descript. This is the key.

Cherry7 · 03-14-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

50 shades of grey isn't about bdsm... It's about a filthy rich, but hurt due to things in his past, high status male that falls in love with a everyday non-special woman like so many out there... and he will do anything to win her heart and she is the only one who can change and heal him.... He NEEDS her... that's why all woman are getting wet pussies... not because of some rope and some whips...

In your 50 shades theory... porn should be: a crying man getting comforted by a woman...

Very funny and very true

SilentKnight · 03-14-2015, 04:14 PM

The Porn Nerd · 03-14-2015, 05:43 PM

Well the OP seems to be the sexpert on male AND female fantasies so I am wondering how much he monetizes these fantasies. I'm guessing not much. LOL

VIXEN ESCORTS · 03-14-2015, 06:51 PM

The problem lies in that people want to jerk their dicks off and cum on their hand or photos of women they will never have any chance of meeting. They no longer have to pay to do this, they just go to a tube site or even worse a cam site like MFC or Chaturbate where incredibly hot women just lie there all day squirting and fisting themselves for the price of a cheeseburger.
You need to stop analysing the ins and outs of a cats ass and realise you are in terminal decline.

glowlite · 03-14-2015, 07:14 PM

Agreed stonehammer,
Producers seem to be stuck in a rut with minimal creativity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonehammer

porn has always been about the sexual kind of FANTASY

stop making content that comes from the 1990s.....u need to TAP into the sexual fantasies of today.....

for example 50 shades of grey....thats a good example of what women are thinking about.

and what do guys fantasize about nowadays ?.....its not about going to a massage parlor for a happy ending...we can pay for that anytime we want to....its not called a fantasy if we can do it ourselves regularly...

ex-gf niche is a good example of a 'fantasy' that was tapped into.

MiamiBoyz · 03-14-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS

The problem lies in that people want to jerk their dicks off and cum on their hand or photos of women they will never have any chance of meeting. They no longer have to pay to do this, they just go to a tube site or even worse a cam site like MFC or Chaturbate where incredibly hot women just lie there all day squirting and fisting themselves for the price of a cheeseburger.
You need to stop analysing the ins and outs of a cats ass and realise you are in terminal decline.

The emperor is naked and no one cares anymore.

oppoten · 03-14-2015, 08:48 PM

I think a lot of the *main* fantasies stand the test of time, especially those that are all about power. Technology can add a new twist, but it's the same old thing really.

The problem is that big American porn has always done fantasy badly. Cumsluts with gaping asses and pornguys on steroids is a show, not a fantasy. It's a shame to see a lot of the European producers resorting to the same style.

Ferus · 03-15-2015, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

I think a lot of the *main* fantasies stand the test of time, especially those that are all about power. Technology can add a new twist, but it's the same old thing really.

The problem is that big American porn has always done fantasy badly. Cumsluts with gaping asses and pornguys on steroids is a show, not a fantasy. It's a shame to see a lot of the European producers resorting to the same style.

Its not "US vs. Europe". its talented producers + what is the contentshopper willing to pay.

aka123 · 03-15-2015, 03:35 AM

I agree in general. Most solo material is more like regular models with clothes off. It is great for "fashion show gone naked"- fantasy, but otherwise not.

And the hardcore is more like some art performance gone kinky.

Although better material doesn't solve all problems, but at least better material is more competitive.

aka123 · 03-15-2015, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

In your 50 shades theory... porn should be: a crying man getting comforted by a woman...

Yes, if you are woman. As already mentioned; womans are the target audience for that.

SmutHammer · 03-15-2015, 04:54 AM

Threads like this are funny... Attempts at making it seem as if giving away free porn isn't a problem at all. Teasing is one thing but when you give it all away you lose the impulse buyers that are looking for anything to get off on quick.

Joshua G · 03-15-2015, 05:45 AM

sorry but once gonzo became a money maker, producers dont need to make effort on story. besides 99% of porn sluts can't act even close to making story work. it would be close to impossible to make a real 50 shades movie. you would need jennifer lawrence to star in it, someone with kink & can act too.

just do the best you can as a producer & if the world likes what you do, money flows your way. or at least to the guy stealing your shit.

slapass · 03-15-2015, 07:52 AM

I think we are missing that as porn goes more mainstream so will porn tastes. Sexart and Femjoy type of sites have already moved that way. The gonzo slutty whores getting railed has an audience but so does good looking girls have sex.

Cameltoepro · 03-15-2015, 10:12 AM

Good thread...

Bladewire · 03-15-2015, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonehammer

porn has always been about the sexual kind of FANTASY

stop making content that comes from the 1990s.....u need to TAP into the sexual fantasies of today.....

for example 50 shades of grey....thats a good example of what women are thinking about.

and what do guys fantasize about nowadays ?.....its not about going to a massage parlor for a happy ending...we can pay for that anytime we want to....its not called a fantasy if we can do it ourselves regularly...

ex-gf niche is a good example of a 'fantasy' that was tapped into.

Ironic right?

Please don't take this the wrong way I'm just kinda posting this and chuckling, no ill will, all good

You want us to create more quality porn that taps the imagination so it could go on illegal tubes with plugrush, embedded from the tubes in to spam blogs you teach how to make in your GFY educational series contribution. One article a month, rinse and repeat until you get 100 right? Plugrush on those.

Again, nothing against Plugrush or you, all good here and you're a great guy, I've read your posts before. Just saying from a content creators perspective, the irony is glaring. It's the fucked up way the criminal aspect of this industry has twisted good minds.

A lot of us are waiting out creating better stuff until the landscape settles on the stolen content issue. Until then, as you've seen, the industry is going to get more and more cookie cutter quick easy cheap to make stuff. With little imagination. As Hollywood has done the last few years as well. Just the way it goes.

Alice22 · 03-15-2015, 02:07 PM

I agree.
As a producer, i can honestly tell that my stuff with twist and interesting story sells so much better than just generic porn

Cherry7 · 03-15-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

sorry but once gonzo became a money maker, producers dont need to make effort on story. besides 99% of porn sluts can't act even close to making story work. it would be close to impossible to make a real 50 shades movie. you would need jennifer lawrence to star in it, someone with kink & can act too.

just do the best you can as a producer & if the world likes what you do, money flows your way. or at least to the guy stealing your shit.

Not true, a lot of adult talent can act, and some very well. Proof check out several French films which have used Adult performers and "Game of Thrones" has adult performers matching professional actors.

The problem is budget for time and crew.

You need time to rehearse the actors, time to light the scene, to work out camera moves, to get good sound, to do several takes, you need good make up, hair dressers and art dept.

You need to freedom to shoot a few great minutes a day as opposed to shooting an hour a day of routine porn.

and at the end of that people pay the same as gonzo shot in a hotel room with a hooker.

Joshua G · 03-15-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Not true, a lot of adult talent can act, and some very well. Proof check out several French films which have used Adult performers and "Game of Thrones" has adult performers matching professional actors.

The problem is budget for time and crew.

You need time to rehearse the actors, time to light the scene, to work out camera moves, to get good sound, to do several takes, you need good make up, hair dressers and art dept.

You need to freedom to shoot a few great minutes a day as opposed to shooting an hour a day of routine porn.

and at the end of that people pay the same as gonzo shot in a hotel room with a hooker.

you basically elaborated what i said, except for the talent quality. we agree, story takes time & effort producers dont need to make.

but just cause a person can act doesnt mean they are right for a part. getting the person that can act, can fuck & looks just right? just about impossible. Hollywood fails at chemistry in 85% of their movies & none of those movies has sex. so for a pornographer to make 50 shades right? close to impossible.

carpocratian · 03-17-2015, 09:01 AM

If you look through the history of sex and porn, you'll see that there's nothing new under the sun. Bondage gear catalogs from the 1930s have the same types of items as those today. Olisbos (dildos) were common in ancient Greece. Etc. etc.

The main difference today is the availability of porn to the average person.

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stonehammer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,430	the problem lies with the content being produced...... porn has always been about the sexual kind of FANTASY stop making content that comes from the 1990s.....u need to TAP into the sexual fantasies of today..... for example 50 shades of grey....thats a good example of what women are thinking about. and what do guys fantasize about nowadays ?.....its not about going to a massage parlor for a happy ending...we can pay for that anytime we want to....its not called a fantasy if we can do it ourselves regularly... ex-gf niche is a good example of a 'fantasy' that was tapped into. __________________ GFY Educational Series: Buying Skimmed Traffic for Websites

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Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	Allow me to interject, if you will? I find your story extremely intriguing, my brethren. So much so, that I wish you would do us all of the kind favor and tell it again. Best regards. __________________ [email protected]

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aka123 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: 64 00 N, 26 00 E Posts: 4,450	I agree in general. Most solo material is more like regular models with clothes off. It is great for "fashion show gone naked"- fantasy, but otherwise not. And the hardcore is more like some art performance gone kinky. Although better material doesn't solve all problems, but at least better material is more competitive. __________________

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VIXEN ESCORTS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,103	The problem lies in that people want to jerk their dicks off and cum on their hand or photos of women they will never have any chance of meeting. They no longer have to pay to do this, they just go to a tube site or even worse a cam site like MFC or Chaturbate where incredibly hot women just lie there all day squirting and fisting themselves for the price of a cheeseburger. You need to stop analysing the ins and outs of a cats ass and realise you are in terminal decline.

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oppoten NAME THE JEW Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,793	I think a lot of the main fantasies stand the test of time, especially those that are all about power. Technology can add a new twist, but it's the same old thing really. The problem is that big American porn has always done fantasy badly. Cumsluts with gaping asses and pornguys on steroids is a show, not a fantasy. It's a shame to see a lot of the European producers resorting to the same style.

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SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,844	Threads like this are funny... Attempts at making it seem as if giving away free porn isn't a problem at all. Teasing is one thing but when you give it all away you lose the impulse buyers that are looking for anything to get off on quick.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	sorry but once gonzo became a money maker, producers dont need to make effort on story. besides 99% of porn sluts can't act even close to making story work. it would be close to impossible to make a real 50 shades movie. you would need jennifer lawrence to star in it, someone with kink & can act too. just do the best you can as a producer & if the world likes what you do, money flows your way. or at least to the guy stealing your shit.

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	I think we are missing that as porn goes more mainstream so will porn tastes. Sexart and Femjoy type of sites have already moved that way. The gonzo slutty whores getting railed has an audience but so does good looking girls have sex.

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carpocratian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 198	If you look through the history of sex and porn, you'll see that there's nothing new under the sun. Bondage gear catalogs from the 1930s have the same types of items as those today. Olisbos (dildos) were common in ancient Greece. Etc. etc. The main difference today is the availability of porn to the average person.