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NineNine · 03-19-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
but all that said and done, is my math correct?

Running a 300k/day TGP is going to look like $5k+ at $0.59 per gig?

It depends on a LOT of things. Primarily, the size of he pages you're sending. Also, if you have things running in the background that say, spider and check galleries to weed out the shit, that's gonna eat up the BW too. Also, you're not even considering the number of pages that each user views. If you're pumping out your blind link trading like you're talking about, that's a page or two a person before they get pissed off or are clicking somewher else. Or, you could be nice, and they end up viewing 20 pages each on average. # of uniques alone doesn't say much at all about amount of BW that you use.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-19-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine

It depends on a LOT of things. Primarily, the size of he pages you're sending. Also, if you have things running in the background that say, spider and check galleries to weed out the shit, that's gonna eat up the BW too. Also, you're not even considering the number of pages that each user views. If you're pumping out your blind link trading like you're talking about, that's a page or two a person before they get pissed off or are clicking somewher else. Or, you could be nice, and they end up viewing 20 pages each on average. # of uniques alone doesn't say much at all about amount of BW that you use.

But using the said "formula to success" all i have is a 100kb page with a trade script.

Since we established scripts are server side, we can do our math based on hits by kb (im assuming)

Id really like someone to correct my math, and/or process of coming up with $5k per month estimated bandwidth charges .... because that puts a bad scare into me.

Anyone?

DavePlays · 03-19-2003, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine

First off, I gotta say that in a message board that's 99% bullshit, I appreciate real discussion.

And, I think that you're on the right track... that's what I've been leaning towards (and what I'm doing now). The tough part is that unless you get at least 75% of surfers returning, ever a 125% link trade still results in a net loss, so if you go this way, you have to have a quality site. As far as thinning out, I think that it's happening already. The get rich quick kids are quickly dropping out since they spend a lot of money, hoping for a 300% return on their money, and of course, they don't get it. But long term is where the payout is. I *know* that the real big sites (Hun, PK, RR, etc.) have the inertia so that they relaly don't ever have to work again. That's what I'm looking for. Maybe I'll keep being nice to surfers.

The "key" to what I'm saying is that you said "long term".
The PK's etc. success had a bit to do with timing - being there "then". But it can still be done, it's just going to take longer than it did in the late 90's. I think "sticking to" doing things right is one thing those people will tell you has kept them on top.

And you're right - what a fucked up thread for this to be in....

jojojo · 03-19-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

but all that said and done, is my math correct?

Running a 300k/day TGP is going to look like $5k+ at $0.59 per gig?

No way. Can't be more thank 300k/visitor TOPS and that would be:

300kb x 300,000 = 90,000,000kb = 90gigs/day x $0.59 = $53.10/day x 31 days = $1593.00

jojojo · 03-19-2003, 11:41 PM

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At first i was gonna ask wtf you were smoking, then i did some math. Say my TGP page ways 100kb (avg with no content)

10 hits = 1mb
100 hits = 10mb
1000 hits = 1gig
100,000 hits = 100gig
1,000,000 hits = 1000gig

Assuming that math is right, Lets say we hit 300k a day. That would be 9 mil per month

Lets say we are being charged $0.59 per gig, at that rate we are looking at a monthly fee of roughly $5,310

Is this correct guys?

actually I wne tback and read this - No this is not correct LOL

You fucked up by a zero - 100,000 hits x 100k = 10gigs not 100

So accoridng to this it would be $531

Bottom line - don't worry about b/w unless you are sevring movies.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-19-2003, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by jojojo

actually I wne tback and read this - No this is not correct LOL

You fucked up by a zero - 100,000 hits x 100k = 10gigs not 100

So accoridng to this it would be $531

Bottom line - don't worry about b/w unless you are sevring movies.

damnit, how the hell did i miss a zero, lol

can you beleive im a financial planner for wells fargo? LOL!!!

(currently on leave due to no car, lol)

lil2rich4u2 · 03-19-2003, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
Bottom line - don't worry about b/w unless you are sevring movies.

i never sever my movies!!!

jojojo · 03-19-2003, 11:45 PM

... in fact don't wory about starting a tgp until you can make $5,000/mth as a submitter.

This goes for all noobs.

Muad'Dib has declared this a new adult webmaster noob law.

Disobey and you will be cut off from the spice.

MonkeyMan · 03-20-2003, 12:00 AM

if you pay $0.59 per gig your not even a webmaster....

Your a sufer who wishes he was a webmaster.

quiet · 03-20-2003, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

damnit, how the hell did i miss a zero, lol

can you beleive im a financial planner for wells fargo? LOL!!!

(currently on leave due to no car, lol)

you're a financial planner for wells fargo - are close to eviction, and can't pay your bills? interesting...

jojojo · 03-20-2003, 05:13 AM

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you're a financial planner for wells fargo - are close to eviction, and can't pay your bills? interesting...

You make millions of dollars, have over 8,000 posts and you are "quiet"?

Quite the contrary.

quiet · 03-20-2003, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by jojojo

You make millions of dollars, have over 8,000 posts and you are "quiet"?

Quite the contrary.

do you know how i picked up the nick? no. i'm going to invest those millions with wells fargo.

Tuga · 03-20-2003, 05:49 AM

What a fucked up world we live in....

Quoth the Raven · 03-20-2003, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by cutetwink
Please just retire and go sell some rock to make the rent sorry for being so harsh but you are just not cut out for this biz.

Maybe you're the one who's not cut out for this biz. lil2rich4u2, perseverance is one of the main keys in any business.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

you're a financial planner for wells fargo - are close to eviction, and can't pay your bills? interesting...

once again, super productive post, but hey! your post count went up!

all bow to wise ass quiet

::::on knee's bowing slowly::::

jojojo · 03-20-2003, 06:57 AM

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do you know how i picked up the nick? no. i'm going to invest those millions with wells fargo.

No, I don't know perhaps you are shy in real life?

Yeah Wells Fargo is awesome - get lilrich as your broker

Don't you just love jackoff's/brokers/money managers that work for banks and recommend stocks etc. - yet they drive their Hyundai to work and are telling you were to invest your money.

fucking biatches with their glossy commercials so you can get a 25 year old punk who doesn't have shit or know shit but is ready to invest your hard earned dollars.

Forget that shit. I have converted all of my hard currency into spice. It is the best bet I think.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by MonkeyMan
if you pay $0.59 per gig your not even a webmaster....

Your a sufer who wishes he was a webmaster.

i just pulled a random host to see the price ...

BullHosting

Plan 1:
50gig for $49 ($3 overage i think)

plan 2:
100gig for $99 ($3 overage i think)

plan 3:
600gig for $299 ($3 overage i think)

plan 4:
1200gig for $575 ($3 overage i think)

So to become a REAL webmaster like you, id need to go for the 1200gig plan just to get below $0.59 per gig, right?

Anything else leaves me as a wannabe i take it?

NineNine · 03-20-2003, 08:13 AM

Those numbers also depend on what kind of hosting... virtual, dedicated, or co-lo.

RIPP · 03-20-2003, 08:55 AM

lil2rich4u2,

Me thinketh you have math problems in plentiful supply

Below 0.59 on your above post would be:

--- [Quoted from above]
plan 3:
600gig for $299 ($3 overage i think)
---

Making for 0.50/GB

Then again you could research properly if really seeking to get closer to a point where you can run a TGP more cost effectively and easily find a few hosts that work with shared hosting at no more than 6 persons per server and charge 0.47 and under per GB on plans that cost under $100... some be under $80

Dedicated can get you much cheaper bandwidth costs overall, but you need make more money to cover the static monthly server rental, or colo fees, to make for EFFECTIVE per GB cost to get below 0.50... implies you also need be doing a heap of GB to reap the per GB bandwidth savings

Later, RIPP

[Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
Those numbers also depend on what kind of hosting... virtual, dedicated, or co-lo.

true

i based above on birtual packages

RIPP · 03-20-2003, 10:15 AM

PS. If you're really sneaky & know how to design a clever website you can find an inexpensive host for the scrupt code & database running and a host that has STATIC hosting plans @ under 0.40/GB [most start at under a $25 base hosting plan fee with no setup costs] and find that you can intergrate the two sites.

1) You can have the scrupts & database running your sites and referencing image/movie content from the static host.

2) You can design a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host & have it automatically upload dynamically generated,(but now static) pages to the static host say once per 12 hours or per day if you wished etc..... If your site were to say it updated daily you could just upload daily,[to fake a dynamic site even if on static host you could have a JEVASCRUPT code banner rotator written into the pages]

3) You could be realllllly clever and create a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host, automatically have these pages converted to a JEVASCRUPT code format & have them then automatically uploaded to the static host, say once per 12 hours, or per day, if you wished..... Then you run the basic scrupt for link codes on the fully enabled host but all the content AND the webpages themselves are loaded in though JEVASCRUPT code from the static host, just appearing to the surfer that they belong to that exact domain, on the fully enabled host,(when really they belong to your subdomain which is pointing to the static host)

What's all this mean... Well it means quite simply that you could be running a fully enabled tradable TGP with just 1 low cost base plan from a fully enabled quality host and all extra bandwidth be just 0.40/GB from the static host..... Since the fully enabled isn't really serving any traffic, a minimum account for under 15GB should suffice very comfortably for most decent to large size TGP sites.

I JEVASCRUPT'd above because apparently the board is now censored against such rude & abusive language

Pps. Just because I have now shared one clever way to save a buck does not mean anyone will get rich unless they are already capable of turning a buck, or are close to it and just need lower bandwidth costs.... You still need to know how to convert that surfer, or have them become a bookmarker, to come back another day... even if you can never get to convert them, if you treat them well you could simply have them making money for you via alternate means.. ie. referring friends that may convert, to help you with trades via clicking some trade links,(blind or knowingly) or by the simple fact that high number of bookmarkers on a nice looking site, that isn't giving it ALL away, or full of popups, can inspire advertisers to pay you nice $$$ to buy some banner spots on your site

...... Play with low traffic & get a high ROI,(Return On Investment) before forking out major money on high numbers of traffic that you might simply burn up all your money on,.. cost of the uniques + cost of bandwidth can kill off both the newbie and the experienced if they don't have many reserves of cash & didn't plan well enough.

Make sure your hosting account can handle major traffic before you pump it through also... nothing worse than having all them click$$$ going to something that can't even muster up the energy for a 404.

Later, RIPP

[Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIPP
 
PS. If you're really sneaky & know how to design a clever website you can find an inexpensive host for the scrupt code & database running and a host that has STATIC hosting plans @ under 0.40/GB [most start at under a $25 base hosting plan fee with no setup costs] and find that you can intergrate the two sites.

1) You can have the scrupts & database running your sites and referencing image/movie content from the static host.

2) You can design a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host & have it automatically upload dynamically generated,(but now static) pages to the static host say once per 12 hours or per day if you wished etc..... If your site were to say it updated daily you could just upload daily,[to fake a dynamic site even if on static host you could have a JEVASCRUPT code banner rotator written into the pages]

3) You could be realllllly clever and create a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host, automatically have these pages converted to a JEVASCRUPT code format & have them then automatically uploaded to the static host, say once per 12 hours, or per day, if you wished..... Then you run the basic scrupt for link codes on the fully enabled host but all the content AND the webpages themselves are loaded in though JEVASCRUPT code from the static host, just appearing to the surfer that they belong to that exact domain, on the fully enabled host,(when really they belong to your subdomain which is pointing to the static host)

What's all this mean... Well it means quite simply that you could be running a fully enabled tradable TGP with just 1 low cost base plan from a fully enabled quality host and all extra bandwidth be just 0.40/GB from the static host..... Since the fully enabled isn't really serving any traffic, a minimum account for under 15GB should suffice very comfortably for most decent to large size TGP sites.

I JEVASCRUPT'd above because apparently the board is now censored against such rude & abusive language

Pps. Just because I have now shared one clever way to save a buck does not mean anyone will get rich unless they are already capable of turning a buck, or are close to it and just need lower bandwidth costs.... You still need to know how to convert that surfer, or have them become a bookmarker, to come back another day... even if you can never get to convert them, if you treat them well you could simply have them making money for you via alternate means.. ie. referring friends that may convert, to help you with trades via clicking some trade links,(blind or knowingly) or by the simple fact that high number of bookmarkers on a nice looking site, that isn't giving it ALL away, or full of popups, can inspire advertisers to pay you nice $$$ to buy some banner spots on your site ...... Play with low traffic & get a high ROI,(Return On Investment) before forking out major money on high numbers of traffic that you might simply burn up all your money on,.. cost of the uniques + cost of bandwidth can kill off both the newbie and the experienced if they don't have many reserves of cash & didn't plan well enough.

Make sure your hosting account can handle major traffic before you pump it through also... nothing worse than having all them click$$$ going to something that can't even muster up the energy for a 404.

Later, RIPP [Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

nice post!

Quote:

Originally posted by RIPP
 
PS. If you're really sneaky

lol not me man, i usually get cought at everything i do, LOL!!!

But thanks, seems very informative and im sure some will be helped by it

Matt 26z · 03-20-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
until you can make $5,000/mth as a submitter.

umm... yeah right. How many people can seriously pull that much from gallery submitting? At $25/sale, that's 6.5 sales per day. You'd have to submit very fresh content, and buy a lot of your spots.

From what I've seen, nobody is going to get to that level with the "build, submit, build, submit, etc..., hope you get listed" method.

Rip · 03-20-2003, 10:36 AM

I am like -SO- writing this all down

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rip
I am like -SO- writing this all down

wow we have a RIP and a RIPP

LOL!!

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z

umm... yeah right. How many people can seriously pull that much from gallery submitting? At $25/sale, that's 6.5 sales per day. You'd have to submit very fresh content, and buy a lot of your spots.

From what I've seen, nobody is going to get to that level with the "build, submit, build, submit, etc..., hope you get listed" method.

Doesnt seem possible on a daily basis for 30 days streight, BUT im sure most the guys with 4k+ posts can do it with ease.

I hear they also know where sadaam is too!!

RIPP · 03-20-2003, 11:57 AM

Yep

... there be 2, Kindof Rip[P]'s .. lol.

Rip used to be Riptide from a post he wrote after one of mine last year he mentioned... dunno whether he was Riptide when I first registered or not & later changed the nick, or he changed it before I got on the board.. but I was unaware there be any similar nicks on the board until many months I think it was later when I saw his nick in a thread I was posting too... pretty much straight after his post I think.. lol .... PP .. I'm the RIPP with 2xP I wrote by my signature that day.. lol ..... But I think I'm pretty easily recognised, so it shouldn't get too confusing.

1. I don't post much to boards.
2. I type a lot when I do usually.
3. Plenty of colour in my posts... PLENTY.. hehe

4. I got the PP on my nick.
5. I'm all in CAPITALS.
6. I'll always be like a multiple of 10 lower in post count

Ps. Hi Rip

Later, RIPP

[Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIPP
Yep ... there be 2, Kindof Rip[P]'s .. lol.

Rip used to be Riptide from a post he wrote after one of mine last year he mentioned... dunno whether he was Riptide when I first registered or not & later changed the nick, or he changed it before I got on the board.. but I was unaware there be any similar nicks on the board until many months I think it was later when I saw his nick in a thread I was posting too... pretty much straight after his post I think.. lol .... PP .. I'm the RIPP with 2xP I wrote by my signature that day.. lol ..... But I think I'm pretty easily recognised, so it shouldn't get too confusing.

1. I don't post much to boards.
2. I type a lot when I do usually.
3. Plenty of colour in my posts... PLENTY.. hehe
4. I got the PP on my nick.
5. I'm all in CAPITALS.
6. I'll always be like a multiple of 10 lower in post count 

Ps. Hi Rip

Later, RIPP [Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

yea i love the colors!!

I wish there was software to allow us to use colors easier than using BBS tags.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by RIPP


2. I type a lot when I do usually.

heh

Your posts seem quite informative, i personally prefer someone to post long posts that cover everything, then someone like me who takes 20 posts to cover one question, LOL!!!

good job bud, thanks!

FATPad · 03-20-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Doesnt seem possible on a daily basis for 30 days streight, BUT im sure most the guys with 4k+ posts can do it with ease.

I hear they also know where sadaam is too!!

Just out of curiosity, what's your obsession with post counts?

You always seem to refer to them as if they will somehow validate anything you're saying.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-20-2003, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Just out of curiosity, what's your obsession with post counts?

You always seem to refer to them as if they will somehow validate anything you're saying.

the comment your referring to, and most others are sarcastic

lil2rich4u2 · 03-21-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foreverjason
i like cracka's

lol coin.

i dont understand, lol

"cracka" in what sense?

and "lol coin" ???

jojojo · 03-21-2003, 01:10 AM

First of all you shoul dnot be paying rental fees or any of that otehr bullshit to get a dedicated server. MOst host will give you one at no cost provided you push a min 500gb/mth or whatever.

Alll this jabber about b/w is a waste of time. No matter what you do you will be profitable - you will not burn more b/w than you make sales. The only way you will do this is with movie galleries done wrong. pic galleries, tgps, other free sites = peanuts in b/w.

There is no way around the inevitable. It takes relentless learning and effort to make it in this biz. Most of this biz is simple and easy - you get out of it what you put into it.

Quote:

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Originally posted by jojojo
until you can make $5,000/mth as a submitter.
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umm... yeah right. How many people can seriously pull that much from gallery submitting? At $25/sale, that's 6.5 sales per day. You'd have to submit very fresh content, and buy a lot of your spots.

From what I've seen, nobody is going to get to that level with the "build, submit, build, submit, etc..., hope you get listed" method.

Most intelligent ,hard working, personable, dynamic thinking people are capable of this if not more. If you buy spots then you should be making $10k/mth at least.

Most people lack these characteristics. That is why most people are noobs. Thank god.

Spice scavenging noobs!

quiet · 03-21-2003, 01:14 AM

i'm too bored too look. anyone know off hand what site(s) this retard runs?

lil2rich4u2 · 03-21-2003, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm too bored too look. anyone know off hand what site(s) this retard runs?

prolly not his mouth as much as some assholes on here, dont wanna yell names. But ill whisper them!!! quiet quiet quiet quiet

quiet · 03-21-2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

prolly not his mouth as much as some assholes on here, dont wanna yell names. But ill whisper them!!! quiet quiet quiet quiet

so easy to needle you. so what your running?

lil2rich4u2 · 03-21-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

so easy to needle you. so what your running?

you meant what am I running? Or what is jojo running?

quiet · 03-21-2003, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

you're a financial planner for wells fargo - are close to eviction, and can't pay your bills? interesting...

tell us more? should we be heading there for financial advice?

FATPad · 03-21-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

tell us more? should we be heading there for financial advice?

hehe

mean

jojojo · 03-21-2003, 01:36 AM

Quote:

you meant what am I running? Or what is jojo running?

He's asking you.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-21-2003, 01:39 AM

pleasuredvds.com and all 6000 sub sites are mine

lil2rich4u2 · 03-21-2003, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by jojojo
.... If you buy spots ....

Anyone know some good TGP's to buy spots?

wimpy · 03-22-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Well turns out i blew $3k on site development, $2k on DVD's, and made maybe $1k

wow. it amazes me all the different things people do. I'm not saying this is bad, only that I can't imagine building a complete site for less than $50,000.

although, I must admit that my newest site (also a DVD site) is going up for about $10K. But that's in large part to the fact that I already build most of the infrastructure, the new site is only a product site. Most of that 10K is for the cam and the duplicator.

Juicy D. Links · 03-22-2003, 11:41 AM

I am Quiet's illigitimate child DNA to prove it

Rip · 03-22-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIPP
Yep ... there be 2, Kindof Rip[P]'s .. lol.

Rip used to be Riptide from a post he wrote after one of mine last year he mentioned... dunno whether he was Riptide when I first registered or not & later changed the nick, or he changed it before I got on the board.. but I was unaware there be any similar nicks on the board until many months I think it was later when I saw his nick in a thread I was posting too... pretty much straight after his post I think.. lol .... PP .. I'm the RIPP with 2xP I wrote by my signature that day.. lol ..... But I think I'm pretty easily recognised, so it shouldn't get too confusing.

Ps. Hi Rip

Later, RIPP [Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

Yeah I used to be riptide @ the pcbbs... until I lost my hotmail addy and couldn't change my password - this is getting damn
confusing isnt it

Maybe I'll change my handle again I dunno

lil2rich4u2 · 03-22-2003, 11:16 PM

Alot of you guys have commented how making $1k-$2k a month off a 300k tgp is nothing.

Well i guess you are right.

So far on my 20k tgp looks like im avg'ing over $1.2k per month.

This includes money from email panels, FTC $1 signups, advertising, selling my clicks to spotbrokers, and AP pics on bottom of page.

Again i dont have the cash right now to test it, but if i had 300k a day, i imagine the numbers MIGHT be near 10x this.

Even if its at a low 7x this, that is still almost $9k

Im sure this is low because i dont do any real promoting on my TGP, and even if i did, i suck at it, lol

TDF · 03-22-2003, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Alot of you guys have commented how making $1k-$2k a month off a 300k tgp is nothing.

Well i guess you are right.

So far on my 20k tgp looks like im avg'ing over $1.2k per month.

This includes money from email panels, FTC $1 signups, advertising, selling my clicks to spotbrokers, and AP pics on bottom of page.

Again i dont have the cash right now to test it, but if i had 300k a day, i imagine the numbers MIGHT be near 10x this.

Even if its at a low 7x this, that is still almost $9k

Im sure this is low because i dont do any real promoting on my TGP, and even if i did, i suck at it, lol

i dont believe you, we need more people

lil2rich4u2 · 03-22-2003, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli

i dont believe you, we need more people

more people?

wimpy · 03-23-2003, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Smoke a joint, relax a bit.

I will take your advice. Thank you.

RIPP · 03-23-2003, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rip

Yeah I used to be riptide @ the pcbbs... until I lost my hotmail addy and couldn't change my password - this is getting damn
confusing isnt it

Maybe I'll change my handle again I dunno

Better than having someone with the same nick as you on another popular board that's an asshole and people keep mistaking you for them...

... Seen that happen to a few luckless people before.

I think I've registered as RIPP on what were the most popular and biggest boards back in 2001, 2002, to try to help protect myself from this... though pretty much only ever posted on Oxcash forum board and the few posts I've done on GFY & PornMegaBucks.... don't have the inclination to spend all day on the boards... There's money in them-thar surfers

Tis kewl if you stay Rip with me,[Though remember to back me up if someone at some stage accuses me of talking to myself on here

] .... I'll keep my Oxcash forum tag for a while and still be more colourful in posting and have like 10x less in the post count stakes than you.

Keeping the Oxcash forum tag in so I don't need seek to build up rep. again on another board... so many boards these days.. you could be friends & respected on one and on another just a stranger passing through due to different nick required, or people sometimes realising nicks between boards doesn't always mean that it's the same person posting.

Anyhow... nuther long post even though was supposed to be just a quickie.

Later, RIPP

[Shane, Aka noreseller. from old Oxcash forums]

03-19-2003, 11:45 PM	#208
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	... in fact don't wory about starting a tgp until you can make $5,000/mth as a submitter. This goes for all noobs. Muad'Dib has declared this a new adult webmaster noob law. Disobey and you will be cut off from the spice. __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

03-20-2003, 05:49 AM	#213
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	What a fucked up world we live in.... __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

03-20-2003, 08:55 AM	#219
RIPP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: It smells a little like fish Posts: 111	lil2rich4u2, Me thinketh you have math problems in plentiful supply Below 0.59 on your above post would be: <font color="yellow"><b>---</b> [Quoted from above] <font color="aqua">plan 3: 600gig for $299 ($3 overage i think)</font> <b>---</b></font> Making for 0.50/GB Then again you could research properly if really seeking to get closer to a point where you can run a TGP more cost effectively and easily find a few hosts that work with shared hosting at no more than 6 persons per server and charge 0.47 and under per GB on plans that cost under $100... some be under $80 Dedicated can get you much cheaper bandwidth costs overall, but you need make more money to cover the static monthly server rental, or colo fees, to make for EFFECTIVE per GB cost to get below 0.50... implies you also need be doing a heap of GB to reap the per GB bandwidth savings Later, <b>RIPP</b> <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b> __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2003, 10:15 AM	#221
RIPP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: It smells a little like fish Posts: 111	<br> <b>PS.</b> If you're really sneaky & know how to design a clever website you can find an inexpensive host for the scrupt code & database running and a host that has <u>STATIC</u> hosting plans @ under 0.40/GB [<font color="aqua">most start at under a $25 base hosting plan fee with no setup costs</font>] and find that you can intergrate the two sites. <b>1)</b> You can have the scrupts & database running your sites and referencing image/movie content from the static host. <b>2)</b> You can design a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host & have it automatically upload dynamically generated,(<font color="aqua">but now static</font>) pages to the static host say once per 12 hours or per day if you wished etc..... If your site were to say it updated daily you could just upload daily,[<font color="yellow">to fake a dynamic site even if on static host you could have a JEVASCRUPT code banner rotator written into the pages</font>] <b>3)</b> You could be realllllly clever and create a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host, automatically have these pages converted to a JEVASCRUPT code format & have them then automatically uploaded to the static host, say once per 12 hours, or per day, if you wished..... Then you run the basic scrupt for link codes on the fully enabled host but all the content <u><b>AND</b></u> the webpages themselves are loaded in though JEVASCRUPT code from the static host, just appearing to the surfer that they belong to that exact domain, on the fully enabled host,(<font color="yellow">when really they belong to your subdomain which is pointing to the static host</font>) <font color="#ccff66">What's all this mean... Well it means quite simply that you could be running a fully enabled tradable TGP with just 1 low cost base plan from a fully enabled quality host and all extra bandwidth be just 0.40/GB from the static host..... Since the fully enabled isn't really serving any traffic, a minimum account for under 15GB should suffice very comfortably for most decent to large size TGP sites.</font> <font color="pink">I <u><b>JEVASCRUPT</b></u>'d above because apparently the board is now censored against such rude & abusive language</font> Pps. Just because I have now shared one clever way to save a buck does not mean anyone will get rich unless they are already capable of turning a buck, or are close to it and just need lower bandwidth costs.... You still need to know how to convert that surfer, or have them become a bookmarker, to come back another day... even if you can never get to convert them, if you treat them well you could simply have them making money for you via alternate means.. ie. referring friends that may convert, to help you with trades via clicking some trade links,(<font color="yellow">blind or knowingly</font>) or by the simple fact that high number of bookmarkers on a nice looking site, that isn't giving it ALL away, or full of popups, can inspire advertisers to pay you nice $$$ to buy some banner spots on your site ...... Play with low traffic & get a high ROI,(<font color="#ccff66">Return On Investment</font>) before forking out major money on high numbers of traffic that you might simply burn up all your money on,.. cost of the uniques + cost of bandwidth can kill off both the newbie and the experienced if they don't have many reserves of cash & didn't plan well enough. <font color="pink">Make sure your hosting account can handle major traffic before you pump it through also... nothing worse than having all them click$$$ going to something that can't even muster up the energy for a 404.</font> Later, <b>RIPP</b> <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b> __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2003, 11:57 AM	#227
RIPP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: It smells a little like fish Posts: 111	Yep ... there be 2, Kindof Rip[P]'s .. lol. Rip used to be Riptide from a post he wrote after one of mine last year he mentioned... dunno whether he was Riptide when I first registered or not & later changed the nick, or he changed it before I got on the board.. but I was unaware there be any similar nicks on the board until many months I think it was later when I saw his nick in a thread I was posting too... pretty much straight after his post I think.. lol .... PP .. I'm the RIPP with 2xP I wrote by my signature that day.. lol ..... But I think I'm pretty easily recognised, so it shouldn't get too confusing. <font color="yellow">1. I don't post much to boards. 2. I type a lot when I do usually. 3. Plenty of colour in my posts... <b><font color="pink">PL<font color="orange">EN</font><font color="#00ff33">TY</font></font></b>.. hehe 4. I got the <b>PP</b> on my nick. 5. I'm all in CAPITALS. 6. I'll always be like a multiple of 10 lower in post count </font> <b>Ps.</b> Hi Rip Later, <b>RIPP</b> <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b> __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2003, 12:00 AM	#209
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	if you pay $0.59 per gig your not even a webmaster.... Your a sufer who wishes he was a webmaster.

03-20-2003, 08:13 AM	#218
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	Those numbers also depend on what kind of hosting... virtual, dedicated, or co-lo.

03-20-2003, 10:36 AM	#224
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I am like -SO- writing this all down

03-21-2003, 01:14 AM	#234
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i'm too bored too look. anyone know off hand what site(s) this retard runs?

03-21-2003, 01:39 AM	#241
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	pleasuredvds.com and all 6000 sub sites are mine

03-22-2003, 11:41 AM	#244
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I am Quiet's illigitimate child DNA to prove it

03-22-2003, 11:16 PM	#246
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Alot of you guys have commented how making $1k-$2k a month off a 300k tgp is nothing. Well i guess you are right. So far on my 20k tgp looks like im avg'ing over $1.2k per month. This includes money from email panels, FTC $1 signups, advertising, selling my clicks to spotbrokers, and AP pics on bottom of page. Again i dont have the cash right now to test it, but if i had 300k a day, i imagine the numbers MIGHT be near 10x this. Even if its at a low 7x this, that is still almost $9k Im sure this is low because i dont do any real promoting on my TGP, and even if i did, i suck at it, lol