Republicans still trying to kill Net Neutrality - GoFuckYourself.com

crockett · 06-11-2015, 07:24 AM

The GOP Is Trying to Nuke Net Neutrality With a Budget Bill Sneak Attack | Motherboard

Why do Republicans hate America so much and ignore the wishes of the clear majority of public opinion? Why because Comcast , Verizon & ATT pay them to..

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Republicans on Capitol Hill have been scheming to kill the US government?s landmark new open internet policy ever since it was approved?and their latest gambit is a particularly crafty sneak attack.

The House GOP 2016 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations bill contains three riders buried two-thirds of the way through the 156-page bill aimed at preventing the Federal Communications Commission from enforcing its new net neutrality rules, which are designed to ensure that broadband companies treat internet data equally.

The $20.2 billion budget bill, which was unveiled Wednesday and funds several major government agencies, would prohibit the FCC from implementing the new rules until several industry court challenges have been decided. That could take years and give net neutrality opponents enough time to dismantle the rules permanently under a new administration.

Net neutrality supporters lambasted the House GOP?s tactic as a cynical ploy to add net neutrality-killing language to a must-pass budget bill that funds the Treasury Department, the Judiciary, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and several other agencies.

?That a few members of Congress use backroom deals and backdoor tricks to oppose and undermine common-sense open internet principles shows how little they know or care about the law or the overwhelming support these rules have from businesses, innovators and individual Internet users everywhere,? said Matt Wood, policy director at Free Press, a DC-based public interest group.

The high level of public support for internet openness hasn?t dissuaded hardcore anti-net neutrality GOP lawmakers
The House GOP?s latest anti-net neutrality effort comes just two days before the FCC?s new rules are scheduled to take effect on Friday, and underscores the growing desperation on the part of anti-net neutrality forces to roll back one of the most significant tech policy shifts in a generation.

The new FCC rules prohibit blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization?three concepts that are at the heart of net neutrality. Paid prioritization deals are commercial contracts in which ISPs strike special arrangements with deep-pocketed companies for preferential treatment, potentially snuffing out startups.

?The Appropriations Committee proposal reflects an extremism out of step with the American people, and even with the broadband providers themselves,? said Harold Feld, senior vice president at Public Knowledge, a DC-based advocacy group. ?Even the carriers opposing the FCC?s decision in federal court have not attempted to stay the three ?bright line? net neutrality rules that prevent broadband providers from blocking, degrading or prioritizing content.?

Several months ago, Vox Populi Polling found that 81 percent of voters nationwide?including 81 percent of Republicans?believe that ?it is critical to maintain? an internet where service providers cannot block or discriminate against content, or strike paid prioritization deals.

But the high level of public support for internet openness hasn?t dissuaded hardcore anti-net neutrality GOP lawmakers?many of whom have received mountains of cash from the broadband industry?from repeatedly seeking to torpedo the new rules.

Rep. Hal Rogers, the Kentucky Republican who chairs the Appropriations committee, insisted that the bill will maintain ?an open marketplace that allows a fair and level playing field for all.?

?While making good use of limited tax dollars, this legislation also makes great strides in reining in wasteful spending, and stopping harmful and unnecessary bureaucratic overreach,? Rogers said in a statement.

The GOP bill also slashes the FCC?s operating budget for next year?a move that open internet advocates call petty retribution against the agency in retaliation for the new policy. The bill allocates $315 million for the FCC in 2016, a $25 million cut from 2015, and $73 million below the agency?s request.

?The Chairman of the Appropriations Committee made it clear he intended to punish the FCC for doing its job, and he has made good on that threat,? said Feld, referring to Rogers. Will the House GOP succeed in using a backdoor budget trick to kill net neutrality? It?s hard to tell at this point, according to Feld.

?Whether we ultimately end up with clean bills or if the riders survive depends a lot on what kind of pushback members receive from the public and stakeholders, and whether the Republicans want to make the appropriations process highly partisan or want to position themselves as more pragmatic,? said Feld.

EddyTheDog · 06-11-2015, 07:30 AM

How many of the old cunts know what the fuck it is?..

They should have a test before they vote - Don't understand it and you can't vote...

crockett · 06-11-2015, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

How many of the old cunts know what the fuck it is?..

They should have a test before they vote - Don't understand it and you can't vote...

It's the exact reason they don't give a shit. It's because they are old cunts whom probably don't know how to turn on a computer much less use one. They don't have a clue as to what the effects will be and don't care as long as they get the big campaign donation..

L-Pink · 06-11-2015, 07:47 AM

If you two think all other legislation passed by either party is totally understood much less even read by those voting on it you're crazy.

That's what's fucked up with BOTH parties.

directfiesta · 06-11-2015, 08:11 AM

have to reward them for the spying

crockett · 06-11-2015, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

If you two think all other legislation passed by either party is totally understood much less even read by those voting on it you're crazy.

That's what's fucked up with BOTH parties.

Yes, but it doesn't get there unless someone puts it in. I'm pretty sure a congressman can't just add a rider with out approval.

Rochard · 06-11-2015, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

How many of the old cunts know what the fuck it is?..

You might have a point. Years ago there was a hearing that affected the Internet and I watched it on CSPAN. It was the "Congressional Committee on Technology" and the leader was a Congressman or Senator, I believe from Alaska. This was in 2002 or so, and he used the term "That email thingy". It was stunning that the leader of the Congressional Committee on Technology didn't seem to understand what email was.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You might have a point. Years ago there was a hearing that affected the Internet and I watched it on CSPAN. It was the "Congressional Committee on Technology" and the leader was a Congressman or Senator, I believe from Alaska. This was in 2002 or so, and he used the term "That email thingy". It was stunning that the leader of the Congressional Committee on Technology didn't seem to understand what email was.

They made a song about him...

Oh and he eventually got busted for accepting bribes...

2MuchMark · 06-11-2015, 08:51 AM

Come on, GFY republicans: We "libitards" are waiting to hear your excuse on this one.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Come on, GFY republicans: We "libitards" are waiting to hear your excuse on this one.

I'm betting on the "both sides do it excuse"...

L-Pink · 06-11-2015, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I'm betting on the "both sides do it excuse"...

Both sides do, do this exact same thing.

As to this particular case, well ...........

Sly · 06-11-2015, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

How many of the old cunts know what the fuck it is?..

They should have a test before they vote - Don't understand it and you can't vote...

Nobody understood Obamacare.

You might be onto something!

crockett · 06-11-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Both sides do, do this exact same thing.

As to this particular case, well ...........

so why do Republicans always seem to be the ones doing it when it's only corporations whom benifit? At least when Democrats do it, the tax payers usually get something out of the deal..

L-Pink · 06-11-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Nobody understood Obamacare.

You might be onto something!

I'm willing to bet Mitch here voted against Obama-care without reading it. And no Democrat read everything having to do with Obama-care before voting and passing it. They ALL voted the party line and nothing else.

Common practice by both parties. EddyTheDog is correct, each congressman should have to pass a test showing they fully understand what they are voting on otherwise votes are cast following the party line and nothing else.

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crockett · 06-11-2015, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Nobody understood Obamacare.

You might be onto something!

Obamacare has helped people get insurance.. It might not be perfect but it's a very solid fact that more people now have insurance and access to healthcare than at anytime in history of this country..

Meanwhile 80% of people in this country favor net neutrality, yet a few bribe taking Republicans feel they know better than everyone else..

EddyTheDog · 06-11-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Nobody understood Obamacare.

You might be onto something!

You think that's bad - We have the House Of Lords - With them it should be 'Don't know what your own name is', you can't vote...

L-Pink · 06-11-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Obamacare has helped people get insurance.. It might not be perfect but it's a very solid fact that more people now have insurance and access to healthcare than at anytime in history of this country..

Meanwhile 80% of people in this country favor net neutrality, yet a few bribe taking Republicans feel they know better than everyone else..

the point is who actually read ALL of it, understood it, and voted on more than just a concept. NO ONE. Same as the Republicans are doing here.

Barry-xlovecam · 06-11-2015, 10:05 AM

This is pure conservative -- conserving their vested interests.

Communication: phone, radio and video/movies have had their long term capture of profits disrupted and, in some cases, crushed.

They are just trying to keep what they accumulated. Their goal is to profit on the backs of new services and they could give two shits what the consumer will pay -- 100% greed and these interests have the war chest to buy votes. They cannot adapt so before they die ...

baddog · 06-11-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Obamacare has helped people get insurance

It has FORCED people to get insurance and TAXED them if they did not. Only insurance companies have been helped.

baddog · 06-11-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

the point is who actually read ALL of it, understood it, and voted on more than just a concept. NO ONE. Same as the Republicans are doing here.

Which begs the question, does the average American understand net neutrality enough to make an educated decision?

No they don't, just like they don't have a clue about the ACA

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

It has FORCED people to get insurance and TAXED them if they did not. Only insurance companies have been helped.

So this person, who wrote to Obama personally saying that Obamacare helped her, was lying about it right? Or maybe it's a fake letter right?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015...ent-told-today

bronco67 · 06-11-2015, 12:36 PM

If its something that benefits everyone except their rich buddies, they're against it.

2MuchMark · 06-11-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

So this person, who wrote to Obama personally saying that Obamacare helped her, was lying about it right? Or maybe it's a fake letter right?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015...ent-told-today

I head about this and read it the other night. Amazing, and a really nice letter. I'm sure that it made Obama's day. I hope it helps him to keep up the good fight too.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 12:55 PM

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Which begs the question, does the average American understand net neutrality enough to make an educated decision?

No they don't, just like they don't have a clue about the ACA

Yes I'm pretty sure the majority of Americans under the age of 30 understand perfectly well how inportant net neutrality it. 30 and over I suspect those whom are informed drop off at a pretty high rate.

One thing is certain.. Someone whom sells hosting should be very fucking aware of how important net neutrality is.. Yet as someone whom sells hosting you can't put your ignorance aside to just say.. Yea we need net neutraty.. Instead you have to ramble on about how others can't make decisions for themselves..

Yep you are a typical republican..

TheSquealer · 06-11-2015, 12:56 PM

Yet it's ok to "pass this bill so we can find out what's in it" as Pelosi said or pass an 1100 page trillion dollar bailout bill without anyone reading it at all.

baddog · 06-11-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

So this person, who wrote to Obama personally saying that Obamacare helped her, was lying about it right? Or maybe it's a fake letter right?

Ah, tax me to help her huh? What do I get? And 1 person out of how many millions?

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yep you are a typical republican..

Democrat since before you were born.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Ah, tax me to help her huh? What do I get? And 1 person out of how many millions?

Democrat since before you were born.

Explains why you are so angry...

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Ah, tax me to help her huh? What do I get? And 1 person out of how many millions?

Non-sequitur

You said the Obamacare does not help anyone except insurance companies. The letter I posted indicates otherwise.

And what's this "1 person out of how many millions" comment all about? You want more evidence of people saying how they've been helped by Obamacare?

KillerK · 06-11-2015, 01:37 PM

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Non-sequitur

You said the Obamacare does not help anyone except insurance companies. The letter I posted indicates otherwise.

And what's this "1 person out of how many millions" comment all about? You want more evidence of people saying how they've been helped by Obamacare?

That letter is an exception. Not the norm!

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 01:38 PM

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Ah, tax me to help her huh? What do I get? And 1 person out of how many millions?

What do you get...are you serious? You get a society that has more healthy and happier people. You also get the benefits of increased productivity in this society. The fact that a person is now able to live a more fruitful and active life without constant pain should be enough alone to justify it...focusing on primarily on "what do I get" is BS. Shame on you.

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 01:42 PM

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That letter is an exception. Not the norm!

The exception and not the norm? So the millions of people who never had any health care prior, and are actively using their Obamacare now, do not really want it and would rather return to no health care status?

sandman! · 06-11-2015, 01:59 PM

crockett · 06-11-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

What do you get...are you serious? You get a society that has more healthy and happier people. You also get the benefits of increased productivity in this society. The fact that a person is now able to live a more fruitful and active life without constant pain should be enough alone to justify it...focusing on primarily on "what do I get" is BS. Shame on you.

Baddog is a yuppie. He was probably screaming free love in the 60s and smoking dope. then he turned 30 and was like fuck everyone give me my dues..

This is why the country is so fucked.. we went from the best generation former ww2 vets whom gave everything that was asked of them, then we got baddog's generation. A bunch of selfish cunts..

The country will get better in 20 or 30 years when the worst generation finally dies off..

baddog · 06-11-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

That letter is an exception. Not the norm!

Precisely

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

What do you get...are you serious? You get a society that has more healthy and happier people. ugh alone to justify it...focusing on primarily on "what do I get" is BS. Shame on you.

You are so out of touch with reality, it isn't even funny.

baddog · 06-11-2015, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Baddog is a yuppie.

Your ignorance is showing; you obviously have no clue what Yuppies were.

xXXtesy10 · 06-11-2015, 04:36 PM

epitome · 06-11-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

It has FORCED people to get insurance and TAXED them if they did not. Only insurance companies have been helped.

You're going senile.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your ignorance is showing; you obviously have no clue what Yuppies were.

Here I'll let George Carlin explain how the rest of us look at your generation..

You guys were handed one of the best economies this country ever saw.. a booming middle class and your parents left you with a future. Your generation just kept taking and spending, when you ran out of money you just put it all on the credit card and left your kid's generation with all the bills and a dead future..

This country is still paying for your excessive spending and give me everything attitude. It will likely be well into the millennials retirment, before we ever get this country back on track because of your generation's fuck ups.

They didn't call your generation "the worst generation" for nothing..

2MuchMark · 06-11-2015, 09:43 PM

I really think a lot of people hate "Obamacare" for no other reason except that it has the name "Obama" in it. If it had been called "AmeriCARE" or "FreedomCare", the haters would be sucking its dick.

crockett · 06-11-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

I really think a lot of people hate "Obamacare" for no other reason except that it has the name "Obama" in it. If it had been called "AmeriCARE" or "FreedomCare", the haters would be sucking its dick.

It's been proven that many Republicans whom hate obamacare, think ACA is great... btw it was Republicans whom coined the name Obamacare. They intended it as an insult but Obama beat them at their own game took the name and ran with it.

Rochard · 06-11-2015, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

It has FORCED people to get insurance and TAXED them if they did not. Only insurance companies have been helped.

You mean just like we are FORCED to have insurance on our houses and cars? That line of debate doesn't have a single leg to stand on.

The end result is more people have healthcare than before, and it's starting to slow the increases in cost. Instead of spending all their time fighting it, the Republican party should have helped to fix it and then declared it a Republican victory.

Because the Republicans are so damn determined to kill this law, a lawsuit going they filed might just cause millions of people to loose their insurance. That is some serious fucked up bullshit. If the Republicans have their way they will kill this law, and we'll have wasted nearly a decade fighting over it, spent billions, and be starting over from scratch with a similar law. After all, Obamacare is really Romneycare.

baddog · 06-11-2015, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You mean just like we are FORCED to have insurance on our houses and cars?

No. Since you live in the State of California we will deal with their laws. You can get a bond and avoid liability insurance. If you owe money on the car the lender will have you get collision. No one is forced to own a car.

The only people that pay homeowners insurance is people that own homes. No one is forced to own a home and they and not fined or taxed for not owning a home.

You cannot compare forcing someone to purchase health insurance with car or home insurance because those are voluntary.

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No. Since you live in the State of California we will deal with their laws. You can get a bond and avoid liability insurance. If you owe money on the car the lender will have you get collision. No one is forced to own a car.

The only people that pay homeowners insurance is people that own homes. No one is forced to own a home and they and not fined or taxed for not owning a home.

You cannot compare forcing someone to purchase health insurance with car or home insurance because those are voluntary.

Yes you can, because no one is forced to be a United States citizen either. United States citizenship is voluntary.

baddog · 06-11-2015, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

No one is forced to live in the United States.

The fact of the matter is that since I was born here, even if I left I would be subject to their tax laws; unless I went through some legal process (just guessing there is one), but that shit just isn't going to happen.

TCLGirls · 06-11-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

The fact of the matter is that since I was born here, even if I left I would be subject to their tax laws; unless I went through some legal process (just guessing there is one), but that shit just isn't going to happen.

The United States would not tax you if you renounced your citizenship. The United States is not forcing you to remain a US citizen.

TheSquealer · 06-12-2015, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

The United States would not tax you if you renounced your citizenship. The United States is not forcing you to remain a US citizen.

Yes.. they do tax you when you renounce your citizenship. It's called an expatriation tax and there are other forms of exit taxes as well to discourage people from renouncing their citizenship, dipshit. Don't worry, they don't take your EBT card however.

TCLGirls · 06-12-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes.. they do tax you when you renounce your citizenship. It's called an expatriation tax and there are other forms of exit taxes as well to discourage people from renouncing their citizenship, dipshit. Don't worry, they don't take your EBT card however.

I am talking about ongoing income taxes, not one time taxes. And even if the one time tax 'discourages" people from renouncing their citizenship, still no one is forced to remain a US Citizen. People with 6 figure incomes usually know that.

L-Pink · 06-12-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You mean just like we are FORCED to have insurance on our houses and cars?

Just an FYI, no home-OWNER is forced to have homeowners insurance. People who's lender own their home require insurance as part of the mortgage agreement. If you own your home outright no one gives a shit if it catches on fire, floods, gets blown away or blows up from a gas leak or meth lab mishap.

As far as auto insurance more than 25% of Florida drivers are uninsured and the state could care less. They just raise the uninsured motorist coverage for the rest of us.

Think about it, roadblocks would catch 1 out of 4 drivers breaking the law but like I said, no one cares.

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TCLGirls · 06-12-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Just an FYI, no home-OWNER is forced to have homeowners insurance. People who's lender own their home require insurance as part of the mortgage agreement. If you own your home outright no one gives a shit if it catches on fire, floods, gets blown away or blows up from a gas leak or meth lab mishap.

As far as auto insurance more than 25% of Florida drivers are uninsured and the state could care less. They just raise the uninsured motorist coverage for the rest of us.

Think about it, roadblocks would catch 1 out of 4 drivers breaking the law but like I said, no one cares.

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Well when a cop pulls over a motorists for a moving violation, the cop requires the motorist to show proof of insurance. In California at least.

crockett · 06-12-2015, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Just an FYI, no home-OWNER is forced to have homeowners insurance. People who's lender own their home require insurance as part of the mortgage agreement. If you own your home outright no one gives a shit if it catches on fire, floods, gets blown away or blows up from a gas leak or meth lab mishap.

As far as auto insurance more than 25% of Florida drivers are uninsured and the state could care less. They just raise the uninsured motorist coverage for the rest of us.

Think about it, roadblocks would catch 1 out of 4 drivers breaking the law but like I said, no one cares.

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Didn't they do away with auto insurance requirements at one point a few years ago due to so many people not having it? I think it's required again, but I could of swore I remember hearing something about FL dropping the requirement for coverage.

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