crockett

I didn't stutter.. Yes coal is being phased out. I realize you are a "special case" but fucking a man, you really are reaching new lows of being a dumb ass.

Robbie

Mark I wasn't talking about a pickup truck. I specifically said: "Semi-truck" as in a big diesel semi that pulls big tractor trailers full of stuff. The very lifeblood of the country and the economy.

And no...there aren't any of those gonna happen any time soon that would actually be viable to transport large trailers thousands of miles.

That was my point. So diesel powered 18 wheelers are still gonna be running at full capacity on the nations highways for the foreseeable future.

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dyna mo

it's embarrassing to even address you really, it's like debating a child.

nevertheless,

according to the US Department of fucking Energy, you have no idea what you are yapping on about, according to everyone really.

http://www.eia.gov/coal/production/q...df/t1p01p1.pdf

chaze

I think they will subsidize them for the next 20-30 years then call it a luxury tax at some point.

2MuchMark

So sorry I mixed up your trucks. But you're still wrong.

The WAVE features a range-extended electric powertrain:
Is Walmart's WAVE Concept Truck The Fuel-Efficient Future Of Semis?

and

And here's BMW's entry into the electric SEMI-TRUCK market
Here Is BMW's 40-Ton Electric Semi Truck

And here's a Hydbrid, just because.
HybriDrive® Hybrid Diesel Trucks, Hybrid Semi Trucks: How It Works

and



From Dynamo to Crocket:
Um, sorry dude, but you're the one who loses his shit. You say "Fucking fuck fuck fucking fuuuuuuck libitard repubitard whaaaa" every time you start to lose you argument, so.....

just sayin'.

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2MuchMark

There is nothing elitist about it. The cost that you pay at the pump for gas is more than what you actually pay. (Damage to environment, clean-up, health, etc). A Tax that went towards cleaning it up sounds like a good idea to me.

Stop assuming, dynamo, this is what got you into trouble the last time.

To answer your ridiculous comment, not all electricity is produced by fossil fuels. Lot of it, and more and more every day, is coming from clean / renewable sources. Or did you already forget about the solar panels you installed on your roof?


I know. Isn't it great?


Ok, good point.

I would LOVE to see EV cars taxed to fund things like this:

U.K. set to test under-road wireless charging for electric cars | Driving

I would happily pay that tax.

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dyna mo

Stay the fuck out of it markfuckingprince.

I'm not losing a fucking argument here and I've been BEYOND fucking cool to you for a fucking while now. Do you acknowledge that? Fuck no you don't. Just fucking saying. The fucking thread asked for my fucking opinion and I've contributed real fucking facts as well. Gofuckyourself, just fucking saying.

And I treat gfyers like they deserve to be treated. Start shit talking and get shit talking back. You don't see me addressing robbie that way. You don't see me addressing Barry that way. U don't see me treating 98% of gfyers that way. I treat the wanbabe bullies that way because that's how they deserve to be treated. Kick verbal sand in my face and expect me to sit there? Not gonna happen.

Knock it the fuck off with me, I did with you. Just fucking saying. Jtfc.

dyna mo

I'm not assuming jack fucking shit. You just waxed right past the fucking stats crockofshitt posted proving my statement. And to answer your ridiculous inability to read, I stated PRIMARILY. I also should have added dominated because coal and gas make up the lions share of electric production, like 70%.

aka123

Well, here in Finland there has been highly debated suggestion about GPS tracking (vehicles), but cars already have trip meters, so reading that once in a year is quite low-tech solution and cheap.

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Punishing others because they don't drive electric is about as condescending and elitist as you could be **********. The uber elitist part is YOU do not even drive an electric.

crockett

Ok, you are just too dumb to carry on a conversation with. up until you became the Vendzilla replacement, you could at least carry on a conversation. However it's pretty clear the conseradumb has run amok in what ever is left of your brain..

Either you are trying extremely hard to play dumb or you really are a dumb fuck.. Either way it's a waste of time to deal with you at this point.

2MuchMark

Some people in this thread would disagree.


Why? As a favour? It's not necessary my friend. Be yourself if you must.


Fuck, fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck. 6 fucks counted in 1 statement. Relax.


No, you don't. GFY is a fun adult industry hang out where everyone gets to say what they think. It's amazingly entertaining and unfortunately a great distraction. You can disagree with people sometimes and call them Fuckheads other times, but in the end it should all be treated as good fun. Ive shaken hands with many "GFy enemies" in person and I can promise you that no one here deserves to be treated the way you treat them.

Really? Really? ok...

Or else what? You going to beat me up? Tell you what big guy, I'll ignore you from now on. but don't for a second tell me what to do.

Final advice to you. RELAX. You fly off the handle every time someone says something you don't like or don't agree with. It's not good for your health. The next time you're about to lose your mind, go for a walk or jog or something, I promise you'll feel better.

LOL !!!

you are a lost cause. Go buy yourself a Hummer and drive it with a smile then.

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dyna mo

this is where i have to remind you yet again that i had been extremely civil to you up to and including not even replying in some of your dumber threads, until you called me a fucking idiot and yelled that i'm part of the problem. i'm following up on that, you obviously want to act like a bully.

on top of being an intolerant bully, you have no idea what you are yapping on about.

but hey, you saw something neat at home depot so you can predict the future.

dyna mo

heads-up **********, i couldn't give 1 fucking shit about gfy. this ain't irl. i come here to do wtfever i want to do and say. this place is a fucking 3rd grade playground since you haven't grasped that yet, obviously since you are giving me advice to go for a walk (while i'm kicked back atm with my fucking toes in the sand at the beach and you're stuck in a cubicle giving me advice on how to feel better irl) so yeah, it's clear who's taking gfy literally.

i'm gonna beat you up? what the fuck are you talking about? that's how you interpret that? as a threat?

here, i'll rephrase it for you **********: i don't come here to make enemies. you claim you don't either so it makes fucking sense for you to knock it the fuck off with me since i am trying to give you an opporfuckingtunity to be civil by leading you by example of my being civil to you.

dyna mo

it's pretty comical how many hints i've given ********** that this is a schtick. i even pointed out directly to him that i get inspiration for it from one of my all-time fav movie films glengarry glen ross.

gofuckyourself


ahah.

and ftr, i know crockett's a schtick too, figured that out before he announced that he's a gfy conservative troll here to rile up the conservatives.

me not realizing gfy is fun? fucking please.

2MuchMark

Dynamo. It must really hurt to be as depressed as you obviously are. I hope you get help soon.

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dyna mo

there's **********, doing what ********** does best, judging others while looking down his nose doing a internet psych profile based on gfy.

nevertheless, EV is not THE future, battery technology has not had the breakthrough elon musk is waiting for, cordless 18v batteries = 20v, and coal is in peak production.

another argument won by dyna mo.

dyna mo = bazillion

crockofprince = 0





depression gone.

2MuchMark

I'm not judging you Dynamo. I just think that you can't help but lose your shit any time someone disagrees with you, and you seem to stop yourself from having a discussion on any matter. You seem hellbent on destroying the conversation by insulting anyone and everyone with a different viewpoint. If you are like this in real life you must be quite lonely, and if so, that's a shame.

Anyway, say what you want. I won't argue back to you or even offer alternative viewpoints as you will just call me a fucktard or whatever like you usually do.

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crockett

No, dyna there has been a very clear change in your personality over the last few months. Every since Vendzilla stopped posting it's like you have been working over time trying to take over his spot as the dumbest of the dumb..

Also I never called you a fucking idiot, as I told you before. I said you were acting like one. However you have been acting like a dumb ass and calling people names long before that..

I've tried talking civil with you and you do nothing but act like an idiot, so now I just treat you like one.

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dyna mo

i've displayed a willingness and ability to treat you like an adult. you fail at even acknowledging that, let alone going along with it. even worse, instead of even just dropping it, you continue to cling to your need to make comments like this.

and you cling to that simply so you can then make it personal shaming opportunity about irl.

either way, i've tried to reset things with you, i've even offered you an olive branch in the past, and i've been more than civil to you while you make crass personal comments.

dyna mo

i've already rubbed your fucking nose in every single post you've made in your own fucking thread. it's like shooting fish in a barrel, it's fun for a while but actually pretty fucking boring.

i'll do it again whenever the fuck i feel like it.

dyna mo

i'll even try again to support my previous comments that i've tried to get along,

if either of you two want to knock it the fuck off with the insults and attacks, i am capable of doing the same- as i've shown both of you in the past. that doesn't mean we're going to agree on shit, it means you and i will agree to disagree. it means that the name calling stops, it means the personal jabs stop. it means the character assassination stops.

opportunity offered. a simple yes or no is all that's needed.

oh, and i'll never stop stating "fuck" at a porn board named gofuckyourself. let's not pussify things.

Robbie

Nope. It goes 60 miles on a charge Mark.
Not viable at all for long range haulers.

As I said already...for the foreseeable future, diesel will still be used for the trucking industry and taxes will still be collected.

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Robbie

heh-heh-heh

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crockett

No you haven't you ignorant retard. It's just not worth arguing with you because you are too delusional and have zero ability to understand fucki g basic common sense..

It's like you trying to argue about the battery post I made wasn't a breakthrough because it might be expensive. You are seriously too ignorant to understand the basic concept, that new tech is almost always rare and expensive at first.

When nicad batteries were first put on the market, they were expensive and only used on high end or very specific items. Now they are common place.

You have to be a fucking fool to not understand this.. Your right wing radio has rotted the remaining brain cells the alcohol didn't already get..

dyna mo

i was wonderin if anyone was gonna appreciate that one.


i've been known to play pretty rough with those two. that's why they're bro'n up right in this thread.

dyna mo

i'll take this as your declining my offer of an opportunity presented to you.

regardless.

because you also are twisting my posts. a "breakthrough" in the laboratory in principle, is a minimum of 10 years away from application and closer to 20+.

that has nothing to do with expense.

it's the time factor to PROVE the chemistry. it's extremely complex testing and time-consuming. the blurb i quoted certainly included the expense but the point of the blurb was the fact that it's at least 10 years away from reality.

i didn't think i had to explain that to you, based on your claiming you know what the fuck you're talking about. because anyone that's following battery technology and such, is fully aware of the time constraints in proving a viable SAFE battery for the masses. this is rocket science.

nico-t

don't worry, they'll find a way to tax the shit out of everyone as usual. Taxes are something governments are all very creative in, they'll make sure they won't lose a dime once the time has come - in fact, they'll make sure they make even more. Something new is a chance they always grab to let the people pay even more money.

shiraz9944

[QUOTE=dyna mo;20550840]there's **********, doing what ********** does best, judging others while looking down his nose doing a internet psych profile based on gfy.

nevertheless, EV is not THE future, battery technology has not had the breakthrough elon musk is waiting for, cordless 18v batteries = 20v, and coal is in peak production.

true that 18v maybe the same as the 20v but I just got a new blower that is 58v and destroys my gas blower in terms of wind speed and lasts 40 minutes at full power and will charge fully in only 30 minutes.........how is that not an advancement? I would never use a gas blower or weed eater again. Yes this was at home depot that I bought it as well for a very good price.

dyna mo

[QUOTE=shiraz9944;20550969]
I specifically stated there have been advances. i mean really people. go back and see my post where i am the one that stated in this thread that there have been incremental advances over the years of batteries. it's weird to me people just jump right over the fact. Again, what i've stated is exactly what i've learned from following elon musk, that there hasn't been a BREAKTHROUGH.

dyna mo

not that any of my detractors are interested, but for the others

Elon Musk Responds To Alleged "Battery Breakthroughs"

The “breakthrough” battery discussed in the PhysOrg article is of the aluminum-ion variety. Problem is the article does not list complete specs for the battery. It does state that the “battery was able to withstand more than 7,500 cycles without any loss of capacity” and that the “battery produces about half the voltage of a typical lithium battery,” but specific numbers are not present. So, this battery would fail the Musk “breakthrough” test.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk On Breakthrough Battery
If you follow the electric vehicle battery market, then you’re well aware of all the “breakthrough” battery technology out there; heck we have a whole category devoted to it to for one to peruse (“battery tech“) if you have a couple days to kill.

Truth is, most of these breakthroughs exist only on paper, to which Tesla CEO Elon Musk proclaimed during the Q3 conference call:

“My top advice really for anyone who says they’ve got some breakthrough battery technology is please send us a sample cell, okay. Don’t send us PowerPoint, okay, just send us one cell that works with all appropriate caveats, that would be great. That sorts out the nonsense and the claims that aren’t actually true.”




That basically sums up our thoughts on battery “breakthroughs” too. Until it’s a working cell, it simply doesn’t exist.



your argument is with elon musk, not me. tell him watcha saw down at home depot.

dyna mo

"And, as Musk points out, what is the energy and power density of the resulting battery pack?

I get very frustrated by all the BBB (big battery breakthrough) announcements we see that then seem to disappear without a trace. I’m frustrated that batteries aren’t advancing as quickly as I like (even though they’re improving in performance/cost ratio quite nicely), and I’m also frustrated with the wretched coverage we see in so many articles.

I wish more people, and not just the authors of these wide-eyed articles, understood at least somewhat all the hurdles between, “Holy crap! Look what we just did in the lab!!!” and, “I just bought a new EV with a 500-mile BazookaBattery(TM)”.

Trying to engineer a battery pack that meets all the pertinent real world requirements is a staggering task. Working in different environmental conditions, cost, scaling production, size, weight, power and energy delivery, safety, pack lifespan — it makes my head hurt.

But as I’ve said here before, I have zero doubt that we’ll see at least one BBB that makes it all the way to the showroom floor. (I consider ultracaps to be merely another form of battery, for the purposes of this discussion.) The financial reward is almost unimaginable, and there are far too many groups chasing that goal for none of them to find it."

Elon Musk Responds To Alleged "Battery Breakthroughs"

Robbie

dynamo, crockett and ********** tagteamed you in this thread and tried to DP you too! lol

Gotta give 'em props for fighting back!

I enjoy all 3 of you guys on GFY.

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dyna mo

right back atcha

those guys play rough, whether they realize it or not. i play rougher back. and we're off.

i do try to keep it to name calling and shock&awe "fucks", after all this is the 3rd grader's playground. it is always funny to me to see gfyers get agitated by a thoroughly fuck peppered post. i don't need to put any effort into an insult if all i have to do is throw some fucks in. and it keeps my insult above the belt.

crockett

Dude you guys tag team us all the time.. he'll look at the 3 or 4 lemmings at the start who tried to tag team me.

Dyna is just acting like a tool so I guess MP is just as tired of him as I am.

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dyna mo

The difference is you get tagteamed because you're wrong.

I get tagteamed because I'm right.

Robbie

So basically it's not a threesome...it's couple sex?

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Helix

They should RAISE the taxes on battery powered cars to pay for the horrendous damage to the planet that results from the mining of rare earth minerals for those batteries.

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crockett

No you retarded fool.. Robbie's post is a perfect example.. Every si the one of these topics all you conservatards give each other hi fives and never question each other but direct your BS at those that don't drink your koolaide.

Robbie's ignore the fact that you have been trash talking me and mark for weeks now and gives you hi fives. Meanwhile I've largely ignored your rudeness and immaturity while trying to debate you. Yet for weeks you do nothing but shit post.. So I figure what the hell you act like a retard I'll start treating you like a retard and what do you know.. conservibros Robbie comes along to say we are ganging up on you..

It never fails.. You guys love to trash talk others but soon as you get it in return, it's cry time..

You certainly are a hero in your own mind, I'll give you that one..

Joshua G

hey, foul ball!

mark prince says that an EV truck that drives 60 miles is viable for cross country trips, & that only oil pollutes. don't shatter his boilerplate progressive propaganda with facts.

dyna mo

'going just on this thread alone, yes. EV is not THE future, 18v = 20v, there has not been a breakthrough, coal use is at its peak.

everything you claim in this thread i've proven you wrong about.


so sure, name call, as you know i could no give 1 single fuck about name calling. but realize everyone here also knows you're wrong, that's why they all chimed in, because you're so obviously wrong. you and mp tagteam me because you think by joining forces you have a chance, that somehow combined wrongness trumps right. see what i did there.

crockett

eV is the future. There is a diffrence between 18v and 20v batteries and 2015 coal useage is projected to be the lowest amount of coal burned since the 90s. Yet deny, deny, deny.. Write a bunch of BS and proclaim you are right.. As I said a hero in your own mind.

2MuchMark

No, you haven't. You have avoided apologizing to me and everyone else on GFY you have insulted, and convinced yourself that this is your way of treating people with respect. You're not, and it's not.

Acknowledging what? That you dismiss your own personality problems, brush them aside as if they don't exist, not apologize to anyone and pretend people will forget? Sure ok I'll acknowledgte that you do that.


Even worse? No dude, you're the depressed one who snaps at anyone for anything at any time. It used to be curious, even funny for a while, but now it's just "whatever, someone pissed in Dyna's cheerios again".


I'm not trying to shame you. If you feel ashamed it is because of your own words and actions. You should feel ashamed. I though, am no one to shame you because you do not respect me. You can't be shamed by someone you don't respect.


Your olive branch was offered without any kind of apology, was long over due, was insincere, and was followed by lots of other insults. As I already told you a few times Dynamo, I don't want to be your friend. I've told you many times now to fuck off. Now is the time for you to learn that, live that.


Maybe Today, but tomorrow is another story. It's a mistake to dismiss EV's and rely on Diesel forever.

Look at it this way. If you were a big company that had to ship goods all over the country, you would be looking for ways to save fuel too.

Try not to think short term. Think long-term.


Lol! Ok tough guy.

Tired, maybe, concerned, maybe, sorry for him, definitely.


Ok, Rush Limbaugh. Or should I call you Glenn Beck?


It's all about the juice. You can say that the manufacturing footprint for EV cars is bigger than an ICE car, it's the energy that is used to move the car that is more important. Using Coal powered electricity is of course, ridiculous, but it doesn't have to be that way.


Josuha, please show me exactly where I said that. I never did.

EV Cars are here. EV trucks and EV Semi's are coming. There will always be different range capabilities of various models and some of them will do very well service a specific sector of the industry. People like Dynamo and Robbie who deny the trend of the future belong on the couch at Fox News preaching to the old and to the stupid who will listen to them, no where else.

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dyna mo

**********, when you apologize for bringing my mother into our arguing and insulting her in ways I won't repeat here, I consider apologizing for pointing out the true person you really are. And you're the gfyer who gets huffy when I write the word fuck. The guy who is is so desperately losing an argument, he needs to insult my mom horribly. I mean really. Really you two , two wrongs don't make a right.

dyna mo

And I'll take your ignoring my opportunity I offered to you as your need to continue posting like a 3rd grade bully.


No fucks needed to sort you out **********, you are very simple.

Robbie

That's what I'm saying...it's not gonna happen in the "foreseeable future".
I'm sure that one day they will indeed get much more efficient with all of this and figure out a way.

But in the meantime, even if everyone in the U.S. starts driving and EV...big rig trucks will still be diesel.

But I think it will be great when the day comes that they find another way. Just don't see it happening yet.

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Dynamo: Ok whatever you say. Take care now.


Hi Robbie,

To be honest with you I don't see it happening anytime soon either, and I've always said we'll never get rid of oil / gas / diesel. But you have to admit that the technology is pretty exciting.

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crockett

This is exactly why we think you are an idiot.. seriously, what meds did you sat taking in the last 2 months?

dyna mo

I see, someone offers you an opportunity to act like an adult and to you, that makes them an idiot and a target for you to hurl more personal insults about a medical condition.


And you wonder why I dumb down my posts to you.

dyna mo

right here in this thread shows the difference between myself and crockett/**********

when Robbie, a respected and respectful person and member of this community took the time to post that he enjoys all three of us posting, i'm the only one with the ability to acknowledge it and to reply to it in kind.

crockett takes it as an opportunity to argue more and whine.

********** waxes right past it in his attempts to medically diagnose me as depressive irl simply so he can then insult me for being depressed. btw, **********, it's my understanding that depression is a serious illness, why you need to portray someone as depressed irl just so you can insult them reveals much more about you than me. you prolly make fun of cancer patients too, easy pickings.

so you guys want to toy around with making things personal, too bad you are incapable of realizing that by my choice of dumbing down my posts to you, i've let you off the hook. you two are very lucky i don't use my better intellect to completely crawl inside both your heads and take the time to show you directly how to really make something personal.


and fyi, you wouldn't have the slightest idea what's happening.