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AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 05:27 AM

There you have it.

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3.2 You must provide fourteen (14) days notice of non-renewal to Us should You not wish to renew this Agreement after the Initial Term.

The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

Tulku · 08-14-2015, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

There you have it.

The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulku

Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

If the OP was sent a quote, that quote linked to the terms, he paid the first term and rolled over into a second term and now wants to cancel then he's out of luck.

As I said, it doesn't matter how crap Choopa might be, if that's the agreement that was made then the OP will need to wear it.

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 07:27 AM

Well, I'm never using Choopa...

hentaiwebmaster · 08-14-2015, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

There you have it.

The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

hentaiwebmaster · 08-14-2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

does the OP have the original contract?

I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

xXXtesy10 · 08-14-2015, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

what site you run?

AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

what site you run?

Yeah, I'd like to know that too

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

Post a link, then

hentaiwebmaster · 08-14-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Post a link, then

The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Create an account and upload it to Sign in - BBS PICS Image Hosting and I will post it.

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Then spell it out:
website dot com

Jigster715 · 08-14-2015, 08:46 AM

istealhentai.com

AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 09:01 AM

*crickets*

sandman! · 08-14-2015, 10:17 AM

i dont think you will be getting a refund

hentaiwebmaster · 08-14-2015, 10:54 AM

prntscr DOT com/84kpab

MrBottomTooth · 08-14-2015, 11:09 AM

Putting stuff like that in the terms is a dirty way of doing business.

baddog · 08-14-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i dont think you will be getting a refund

That's why he wants to charge back.

The Porn Nerd · 08-14-2015, 11:45 AM

Contact your bank.

420 · 08-14-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

prntscr DOT com/84kpab

plaster · 08-14-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster

They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

Dude, it DOESN"T matter shit if you signed those terms or not. You didn't realize those terms because they are obviously well hidden.

Do you know how many chargebacks I get and the reason states:
Prove your customer was using the service.

Charge it back for the reasons I listed on page 1. They will credit you that money immediately. Then, if Choopa files a refute claim and they win, simply do a second chargeback and tell your bank rep. to include proof of use.

You didn't use it, you will win it. Be persistent and if bank rep says they can't do a second chargeback, talk to the manager. You will get your money back. And you need to do it quickly because there are time frame limits.

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

The very first line should have been enough for anyone to not click Continue..

I'd contact your bank, though.

The Porn Nerd · 08-14-2015, 12:13 PM

Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 12:14 PM

Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?...

xXXtesy10 · 08-14-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

i dont think you will be getting a refund

xXXtesy10 · 08-14-2015, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?...

sandman! · 08-14-2015, 12:17 PM

$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

Colmike9 · 08-14-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

..I thought that was for one, my bad.

Still high, though..

pr0phet · 08-14-2015, 12:58 PM

Just chargeback, You will win easily. Those terms are bogus for Visa rebills.

Cyber Fucker · 08-14-2015, 01:00 PM

I like webair. No problems here.

AdultKing · 08-14-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

It wasn't initially clear it was managed.

I am very glad we don't need to rely on managed servers.

3xmedia · 08-14-2015, 01:35 PM

I wouldn't pay more than $250/month for a fully managed server with those specs

CDSmith · 08-14-2015, 01:45 PM

There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.

C H R I S · 08-14-2015, 02:21 PM

This is a great ad for Choopa..... lol

MetaMan · 08-14-2015, 03:01 PM

It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.

TheSquealer · 08-14-2015, 03:02 PM

I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

He should have known what he was signing.

He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.

The Porn Nerd · 08-14-2015, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.

I don't often quote myself but couldn't resist:

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

xXXtesy10 · 08-14-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

mean 'suck' in spanish no? choopar

Mediamix · 08-14-2015, 03:55 PM

Edit: Something went wrong

xXXtesy10 · 08-14-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mediamix

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freecartoonporn · 08-15-2015, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I pay $12 a month for hosting (billed at $144 yearly) and that brings in 5 figures a month.

I remember a time when i was paying $6k a month for servers alone to make just barely more than I'm bringing in now. Choopa was one of the hosts i had. They werent cheap, but they let me do they stuff that I do and never said anything about it as long as I didnt bring in complaints.

Man, I got two questions for you:

What do you do?
And how do you do it?

freecartoonporn · 08-15-2015, 06:36 AM

next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,

j3rkules · 08-15-2015, 07:16 AM

I hope you will at least learn from it.

Oracle Porn · 08-15-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 420

I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....

Denny · 08-15-2015, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

Man, I got two questions for you:

What do you do?
And how do you do it?

hentaiwebmaster · 08-15-2015, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.

Agrees, It is buried deep into their terms which I never even checked box off.

hentaiwebmaster · 08-15-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....

I did , but who cares.

hentaiwebmaster · 08-15-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,

never heard of it...Interesting way to save money.

hentaiwebmaster · 08-15-2015, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

He should have known what he was signing.

He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.

I asked my bank for a chargeback, Will see how it goes.

AMDWarrior · 08-15-2015, 10:56 AM

I don't think they reward chargebacks for being a fucking idiot..

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