News California Mayor Compares USA to Nazi Germany

[RummyBoy]

California Mayor Forced to Hand Over Electronics and Passwords at Airport, Compares U.S. To Nazi Germany | Zero Hedge

Militarisation of the police is way out of hand upstate, downstate, any state and it's really sad. Quote from Zerohedge: "Just in case you’re still under the infantile illusion that you reside in a free country." For living, I'd chose China or Russia over the USA any day.

[JuicyBunny]

Its Stockton.
Probably they are checking his phone to see what the Chinese installed in it.

[pimpmaster9000]

I have never understood why americans think they are the land of the free...you literally have more freedom in the 3rd world...

what part is free? I mean how does this freedom manifest itself and what is the difference to say albania or any other country?

[wehateporn]

Fluoride in the drinking water, electronic voting, forced vaccines, toxic food, constant war, constant brainwashing; in some ways the US is now worse than NAZI Germany

[shiraz9944]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have never understood why americans think they are the land of the free...you literally have more freedom in the 3rd world...

what part is free? I mean how does this freedom manifest itself and what is the difference to say albania or any other country?

Well I can go from one state to another without papers, I own 100 acres of beautiful land that is nobody's but mine, I can drive wherever I want and not get stopped as long as I'm not speeding. I can film the officer with bambuser IF I do get pulled over, I can go right down the gocery store and buy anything I need without encountering a riot. I love my country, not in some crazy nationalistic way but because I am free to do what I want as long as I don't hurt anyone or infringe on their rights.

And yeah you do have more freedom in the third world, to act like lawless animals without no law and order to keep society intact.

[shiraz9944]

and no they are not checking his phone for chinese hacking, who would want to hack anthony silva's phone LOL. I've been to stockton many times and he is as corrupt as they come. The city had the largest bankruptcy in the world until detroit too that crown. There was no reason for him to go to china, he's a public official using state funded computers and phones so yes they can take them from him at any time and check em out. For those of you who don't know he's already embroiled in like 2 other scandals involving no show contracts (like the sopranos lol) and he refuses to reveal his official mayoral emails even though a federal appeals court has ordered he do so. This is not a good guy.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have never understood why americans think they are the land of the free...you literally have more freedom in the 3rd world...

what part is free? I mean how does this freedom manifest itself and what is the difference to say albania or any other country?

well for one you can openly criticize the government without fear of reprisal. had a chinese mayor (or whatever they call them over there) said this about china, he'd of lost his job. it wasn't long ago a canadian was murdered in an airport in laos for saying something about the president of cambodia. the government claimed he killed himself.. that is not freedom.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well for one you can openly criticize the government without fear of reprisal. had a chinese mayor (or whatever they call them over there) said this about china, he'd of lost his job. it wasn't long ago a canadian was murdered in an airport in laos for saying something about the president of cambodia. the government claimed he killed himself.. that is not freedom.

Blah blah blah America was free when we had slaves too.

[Best-In-BC]

Not that far off, alot of what the nazis wanted to do America has done and consequential so has Canada, everyone has forgot why people died in ww2.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Fluoride in the drinking water, electronic voting, forced vaccines, toxic food, constant war, constant brainwashing; in some ways the US is now worse than NAZI Germany

Electronic voting? Yes, even nazies weren't that evil.

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by aka123

Electronic voting?

I missed that one, why is electronic voting evil?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

I missed that one, why is electronic voting evil?

It is self-explanatory, don't ask so silly questions or Wehateporn will vote for you; electronically.

[Rochard]

The problem isn't American rights or what TSA is doing... The problem is the fucking Mayor of Stockton, California, to attend a "Mayor's conference" in China. Stockton has become horrible nasty place, and instead of taking care of business and doing his job he is fucking off in China on the tax payer's money.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

Well I can go from one state to another without papers, I own 100 acres of beautiful land that is nobody's but mine, I can drive wherever I want and not get stopped as long as I'm not speeding. I can film the officer with bambuser IF I do get pulled over, I can go right down the gocery store and buy anything I need without encountering a riot. I love my country, not in some crazy nationalistic way but because I am free to do what I want as long as I don't hurt anyone or infringe on their rights.

And yeah you do have more freedom in the third world, to act like lawless animals without no law and order to keep society intact.

so can I in my 3rd world shit hole...as for lawless animals you guys have 5x the murder rate per capita and 20-40times the rape rate and we do not even have gangs down here, absolutely every part of town is safe at any time...so if we are lawless animals what are you?

[shiraz9944]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

so can I in my 3rd world shit hole...as for lawless animals you guys have 5x the murder rate per capita and 20-40times the rape rate and we do not even have gangs down here, absolutely every part of town is safe at any time...so if we are lawless animals what are you?

Where do you live? Heaven LOL there is no convincing you, I spent 3 months in spain in college and they barely had running water and toilets barely worked. You just like to argue plain and simple.

[C H R I S]

This guy has obviously never been to China or Russia

Arguments never end well when you pull the Nazi card

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

Where do you live? Heaven LOL there is no convincing you, I spent 3 months in spain in college and they barely had running water and toilets barely worked. You just like to argue plain and simple.

So you went 3 months abroad and you rented a crappy apartment and you conclude that Spain barely has running water?

Forget it, education is something you are immune to

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have never understood why americans think they are the land of the free...

Relax... it's just a marketing phrase... I don't believe the average American thinks his country is, let's say, more free then other western countries...

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Relax... it's just a marketing phrase... I don't believe the average American thinks his country is, let's say, more free then other western countries...

Similar to "Everything is Bigger in Texas."

I had high hopes when I moved here. My little buddy did not grow at all.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have never understood why americans think they are the land of the free...

Mostly because I can travel anywhere I want to without issue and I am free from harassment from the police at all levels. I can own as many cars as I want, open as many businesses as I want, own as many houses as I want. We can even worship whatever god we want too. But best of all we can say whatever we want about our government without fear of Stormtroopers breaking down our doors and hauling us away in the middle of the night.

I always find it amusing how people see things differently. We have an HOA here, and they have the same basic common sense rules all HOAs have. Some people are constantly complaining about the "Nazi rules" the HOA "enforces" and how they can't do this and can't do that. Meanwhile, I've lived here nine years, and never had an issue with them. How is this possible? Same HOA, one person has constant problems yet most of us never have an issue.

[MetaMan]

Everyone who hates the USA would take a visa into the country, hop on a plane and move there the second they could.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Mostly because I can travel anywhere I want to without issue and I am free from harassment from the police at all levels. I can own as many cars as I want, open as many businesses as I want, own as many houses as I want. We can even worship whatever god we want too. But best of all we can say whatever we want about our government without fear of Stormtroopers breaking down our doors and hauling us away in the middle of the night.

I always find it amusing how people see things differently. We have an HOA here, and they have the same basic common sense rules all HOAs have. Some people are constantly complaining about the "Nazi rules" the HOA "enforces" and how they can't do this and can't do that. Meanwhile, I've lived here nine years, and never had an issue with them. How is this possible? Same HOA, one person has constant problems yet most of us never have an issue.

there are few countries in the world where you can not do this...id say its completely normal in 90% of the world...its not a given right in china/nkorea/iran/saudi/avghanistan and syria for example...I don't think theres 10 countries in the world that fit in this category...

my dad "runs" a HOA in montenegro, one of the property owners has a hippopotamus, they have split in to pro-hippo and anti-hippo because he sometimes breaks loose and wanders around, he is not dangerous you can literally shoo him away

Heres a pic of him:


This is freedom IMO

[Google Expert]

The mayor isn't wrong.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

Everyone who hates the USA would take a visa into the country, hop on a plane and move to Canada the second they could.

Fixed it for you.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Mostly because I can travel anywhere I want to without issue and I am free from harassment from the police at all levels. I can own as many cars as I want, open as many businesses as I want, own as many houses as I want. We can even worship whatever god we want too. But best of all we can say whatever we want about our government without fear of Stormtroopers breaking down our doors and hauling us away in the middle of the night.

You are saying it like it's some kind of godsend, exclusive privilege, when in fact it's the most basic rights.

You can do all of this and more in any decent country.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well for one you can openly criticize the government without fear of reprisal.

Dude, you can't even wear a US flag t-shirt to school without some illegal muds being offended and getting you suspended.

American students no right to wear American flag apparel | The Daily Caller

[ravo]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Fixed it for you.

Ha! I'm starting to like you more and more...

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

and no they are not checking his phone for chinese hacking, who would want to hack anthony silva's phone LOL. I've been to stockton many times and he is as corrupt as they come. The city had the largest bankruptcy in the world until detroit too that crown. There was no reason for him to go to china, he's a public official using state funded computers and phones so yes they can take them from him at any time and check em out. For those of you who don't know he's already embroiled in like 2 other scandals involving no show contracts (like the sopranos lol) and he refuses to reveal his official mayoral emails even though a federal appeals court has ordered he do so. This is not a good guy.

You answered why after your LOL. LULZ.

[TeenCat]

i love that i dont need to live where i want to live

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Mostly because I can travel anywhere I want to without issue and I am free from harassment from the police at all levels. I can own as many cars as I want, open as many businesses as I want, own as many houses as I want. We can even worship whatever god we want too. But best of all we can say whatever we want about our government without fear of Stormtroopers breaking down our doors and hauling us away in the middle of the night.

What makes you think that these kind of things are largely prohibited in other countries? With some minor caveats, you have these kind of freedoms in most other countries but there's obviously a vastly increasing limitation on what basic freedoms you have as a citizen of the USA, regardless of whether or not you reside within its borders. You must be either lacking in worldly wisdom or are somewhat indoctrinated.

Sounds like you sleep in an American Flag duvet every night

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendot

What makes you think that these kind of things are largely prohibited in other countries? With some minor caveats, you have these kind of freedoms in most other countries but there's obviously a vastly increasing limitation on what basic freedoms you have as a citizen of the USA, regardless of whether or not you reside within its borders. You must be either lacking in worldly wisdom or somewhat indoctrinated.

Sounds like you sleep in an American Flag duvet every night

says the guy who has Dubai as his location.

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

says the guy who has Dubai as his location.

And your point is?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

You are saying it like it's some kind of godsend, exclusive privilege, when in fact it's the most basic rights.

You can do all of this and more in any decent country.

Originally Posted by Vendot

What makes you think that these kind of things are largely prohibited in other countries? With some minor caveats, you have these kind of freedoms in most other countries but there's obviously a vastly increasing limitation on what basic freedoms you have as a citizen of the USA, regardless of whether or not you reside within its borders. You must be either lacking in worldly wisdom or are somewhat indoctrinated.

Sounds like you sleep in an American Flag duvet every night

I'm not saying it's a godsend or exclusive privilege; And I agree it is a basic human right.

My point is.... We are free to do what we want. No one tells me no unless it's an obvious crime. I hate it when people say we aren't a free nation, or compare us to Nazi Germany. It's just childish.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendot

And your point is?

well its illegal to show affection in public, illegal to possess many kinds of painkillers, porn is illegal..."recommendations" to dress conservatively, sex outside of marriage is illegal even living with someone of the opposite sex without being married is illegal, taking photos of certain buildings is illegal...etc

[kane]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

there are few countries in the world where you can not do this...id say its completely normal in 90% of the world...its not a given right in china/nkorea/iran/saudi/avghanistan and syria for example...I don't think theres 10 countries in the world that fit in this category...

my dad "runs" a HOA in montenegro, one of the property owners has a hippopotamus, they have split in to pro-hippo and anti-hippo because he sometimes breaks loose and wanders around, he is not dangerous you can literally shoo him away

Heres a pic of him:


This is freedom IMO

The argument of freedom aside, make no mistake. That hippo is not harmless. He may keep it well fed so it isn't aggressive, but they are very dangerous animals and it is likely only a matter of time until it hurts someone or something.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by kane

The argument of freedom aside, make no mistake. That hippo is not harmless. He may keep it well fed so it isn't aggressive, but they are very dangerous animals and it is likely only a matter of time until it hurts someone or something.

he is a good hippo, he is completely tame and likes following people around and wandering about, he sometimes goes over to some farmers houses and eats their lettuce and cabbage, but the hippos owner pays for the damage and has hurt nobody...I feed him with 2-3Kg of apples when I come over, he likes it when I throw them in water and he chases them around while they float

I am pro hippo, the anti hippo crew argue that he may be dangerous but hippos are not aggressive on land, and he has his own water that is gated...he is a she, female hippos are less aggressive but we all call him "nikica" its a male name and refer to him in the male gender, dont know why

he flaps his tail and likes to spray shit around

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

I can drive wherever I want and not get stopped as long as I'm not speeding.

You have never driven in southern Arizona, obviously. There you will be stopped by federal officers at checkpoints and asked your citizenship and have your vehicle searched if they decide that's what they want to do.

[shiraz9944]

Actually you dead wrong, I live in the southwest after leaving california and have driven along the fences you describe and never been bothered except two times and the officers simply asked for our licenses which is legal since I was driving then sent us on our way. Quit making up things to stir people up.

[shiraz9944]

ok so we got a little off topic, the mayor went to one of the most ruthless communist countries in the world with the worst human rights record second to only North korea, they took his phone and computer upon entry to the US which is perfectly within the law since he is NOT a citizen, he a public official. His rights do not extend as far as a normal person coming home from vacation. Since the property is not his to bitch abotu in the first place I don't see the problem? Unless there is something he is very worried about. Also they are required to release his government property within 24 hours unless they have found something damaging and could pose a threat to national security. Since its been over48 hours I'd say he's in a heap of shit right about now.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

Actually you dead wrong, I live in the southwest after leaving california and have driven along the fences you describe and never been bothered except two times and the officers simply asked for our licenses which is legal since I was driving then sent us on our way. Quit making up things to stir people up.

You don't know what you're talking about. There are checkpoints north on I-19, north on 286, between Arivaca and Amado, north out of Tombstone, eastbound on 86, on I-10 at Yuma and Las Cruces. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

[shiraz9944]

and you're point being? You do have to have a legal drivers license to operate a motor vehicle. They are the BORDER PATROL, it is their job to make sure you are there legally, once you show them you are, no problem. Quit trying to stir up trouble when there is none.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

and you're point being? You do have to have a legal drivers license to operate a motor vehicle. They are the BORDER PATROL, it is their job to make sure you are there legally, once you show them you are, no problem. Quit trying to stir up trouble when there is none.

My point is that your statement "I can drive wherever I want and not get stopped as long as I'm not speeding" is not true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...or_checkpoints

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by escorpio

You have never driven in southern Arizona, obviously. There you will be stopped by federal officers at checkpoints and asked your citizenship and have your vehicle searched if they decide that's what they want to do.

I wanted to blast you out of the water for this comment and say "I used to drive in Southern Arizona all the time and never had a problem".

I think you are talking about the border patrol checkpoints. I've seen these, although I think they were in California, not Arizona. However, so long as you had a driver's license these aren't much of an issue.

This where it depends on your point of view. Some people will say "Oh my god these are a huge violation of my rights" where as I see this as my tax dollars at work searching for illegals.

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I wanted to blast you out of the water for this comment and say "I used to drive in Southern Arizona all the time and never had a problem".

I think you are talking about the border patrol checkpoints. I've seen these, although I think they were in California, not Arizona. However, so long as you had a driver's license these aren't much of an issue.

This where it depends on your point of view. Some people will say "Oh my god these are a huge violation of my rights" where as I see this as my tax dollars at work searching for illegals.

There are border patrol check points north out of Yuma, Arizona, for example. Dogs, automatic weapons. The whole bit.

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well its illegal to show affection in public, illegal to possess many kinds of painkillers, porn is illegal..."recommendations" to dress conservatively, sex outside of marriage is illegal even living with someone of the opposite sex without being married is illegal, taking photos of certain buildings is illegal...etc

No doubt, you've never spent more than a week in Dubai and you've probably watched too many news stories on extreme cases or those designed to set an example where stupid foreigners didn't respect the local culture.

Many of these are cultural laws, there to protect a conservative culture but in practice are not strictly enforced. However, Dubai is just a tiny part of the country (UAE) and its mostly foreigners so its not a good example. I've never felt more free than in Dubai and I can assure you, its the same with the over 90% expat population.

Is the UAE as a whole less free than the USA?

It's difficult to argue. In some ways it may be but in other ways definitely not. It depends what is important to you but after living in Dubai, I can tell you that my attention has never been drawn to these things and I've never felt more free than in Dubai. So in terms of what matters, there is plenty of freedom.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

well for one you can openly criticize the government without fear of reprisal. had a chinese mayor (or whatever they call them over there) said this about china, he'd of lost his job. it wasn't long ago a canadian was murdered in an airport in laos for saying something about the president of cambodia. the government claimed he killed himself.. that is not freedom.

He has a point, in 3rd world countries, you are not scrutinised as much by law / gov etc...

Of course there are other problems, however he does have a point.

[PornSEO]

I agree with him. US alone has attacked more than 50 countries since World War II. Killed millions for oil and trade domination.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendot

No doubt, you've never spent more than a week in Dubai and you've probably watched too many news stories on extreme cases or those designed to set an example where stupid foreigners didn't respect the local culture.

Many of these are cultural laws, there to protect a conservative culture but in practice are not strictly enforced. However, Dubai is just a tiny part of the country (UAE) and its mostly foreigners so its not a good example. I've never felt more free than in Dubai and I can assure you, its the same with the over 90% expat population.

Is the UAE as a whole less free than the USA?

It's difficult to argue. In some ways it may be but in other ways definitely not. It depends what is important to you but after living in Dubai, I can tell you that my attention has never been drawn to these things and I've never felt more free than in Dubai. So in terms of what matters, there is plenty of freedom.

i'm sure for the most part these things are never an issue for most but if they decide to make it an issue for you there can be problems. i've always felt pretty free everywhere i've gone but it doesn't mean i actually was. i just didn't run into incidents that might of gotten me in trouble in one country but not in others.