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Old 10-22-2015, 10:14 AM   #51
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I would call it nothing less then an invasion. Germany alone supposed to get 1,5 million by the end of 2015, and it's like 70% males in their prime. I go to sleep worried every night over this.
How many Cubans do you think are in Miami or Mexicans in California?
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vid doesn't play on my desktop in chrome either... same with another youtube embed in another thread. Looks fine until you hit play, then just unresponsive. Clicking the title takes me to the youtube page fine.

I'm using Chrome (on a Mac) and it's working fine.
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and no one seems to care

Just like they don't care for other shit.
Yesterday, 27 countries voted for Kosovo to enter UNESCO while 14 were against.
Of course , USA, germany, France and other EU states etc supported Muslim savages that destroyed historical heritage just like ISIS is curently doing. Same muslim scum. Can't wait to see Europe in flames in few decades.






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thats why your shit don't work, internet professionals that aren't aware of basic tech news
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where are the women and children? left in a war zone to fend for themselves?
with family...you can not just take your family in to another country without any money or work, the man tries to find anything and then brings his family...there is no other way to do it with a language barrier and 0 cash...its not about the man being a pussy and running away...

as for the war zone the women and children are mostly safe...most armies will not bother...if you are a male of fighting age in a war zone and not in uniform, then you are in deep shit...and during all this time they have to provide somehow for their families...

they will not adapt in the west mainly because of the language barrier and xenophobia...its not a good time to be a muslim in euro or the USA...they will fall back in to ghettos ect and be like the black population in the USA...

just look at the hate on this board and the assumptions...ISIS does not have a hard time recruiting people because the USA wont leave arabs alone in the middle east and when they run to europe they are treated like trash again...its a never ending circle...
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Supposidely, the men are sent as they are the strongest - and once they gain refugee status they are able to 'reunite' with thier families. So here's the other thing - if there's 1,5mil refugees, and 70% are men that will want to be 'reunited'...
I know quite a few refugees in the United States from Africa. That is the exact path that they follow. The men find Asylum or another method of getting here and staying. They make money, send most of it back to their families. While here they work on their citizenship status and also bringing their family over. This is not just wife and kids. This is also quite often brothers, sisters, parents. It's a very big net.

One very important difference to note here: the refugees that I know from Africa did not leave their families home in a war zone. They may not be the safest areas, but they are not getting bombed by militants and global air forces.

I cannot picture any situation where I would leave and let my family there to fend for themselves.

On another note, I find many Middle Eastern women quite attractive. Can we bring them over here to fill our refugee quotas? There has to be tons of them being left behind!
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i dont get why europeans are so afraid of the refugees. they are, by & large, not coming in order to take away your land like jew settlers.

maybe i am warped by US history & am ignorant of all the racism in europe. maybe thats why USA was founded by people sick of europe. but in USA, over the generations, most ethnic groups arrived here poor & unskilled. eventually they become americans if they make the effort to learn english. but here in USA many illegals do not bother to learn english, but they can get by & its OK. parts of miami are basically spanish speaking territory & its OK. theres no civil war between whites & illegals, as much as the media wants to portray one. in USA its hard to even tell who is illegal when your in a diverse area.

i'll take a syrian refugee who wants to work over a jew settler who wants to not shower & find new verses in the bible to take away more palestine land.

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Poland has *TONS* of jobs. I can't fill my staffing needs because there aren't enough programmers and the ones that are left are monsterously incompetant. I interviewed a guy yesterday with 5 years experience and it would be a crime to let him program anything more then the time of day on an alarm clock. Amazon has warehouses here and they can't even find enough people to lift boxes. We do have incredibly low benefits, though - you are right there. Election coming up on sunday which will likely put the current gov't out and the major right-wing (fiercely anti-immigrant) party in, so there's a good chance that Poland will renegociate what was agreed apon as far as refugees and show more solidarity with V4.

As for the costs for germany, I agree - it's unsustainable and its a fucked up situation. People will be sitting in tent cities in -10c and the ones that are in school gyms and other such buildings will be pissed because of zero privacy and internal conflicts amungst each other - but at the same time it's unreasonable for the german people to foot the bill for free apartments for 1,5 million people.

As for housing in germany, $200k for a house might be in some rural area - but the government won't be buying housing - just renting. I know in the larger cities in germany it was hard rent an apartment years ago let alone now.
Good luck finding programmers amongst the migrants. As for warehouse people, should the UK leave the EU you will have plenty of them. As for non Polish speaking people working in a warehouse, that might be a problem.

As for benefits including houses, schools, health, unemployment benefits. That will cost.

Yes $200,000 was a very low estimate. It could be double that for new homes in places with jobs.

London has a homeless crisis.
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Old 10-23-2015, 01:08 AM   #61
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population of europe 330 million
refugees = a few million A YEAR
percent of muslims and poor in europe total: 20% AND GROWING FAST

speaking as a refugee myself most will be males in their prime...one is given 3 choices, fight for side y, fight for side x or run away...its nothing out of the ordinary...its not an invasion LOL...also when the war tears down your economy you want to provide for your family...its normal for people to look for work...

you want to buy the bullshit stories the media feeds you? fine...
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These people ar not running away from war zones, They're leaving safe countries, walking through more saf countries for economic benefits.

I'll agree the response by politicians is criminal. The proper solution is to build safe camps, with facilities such as a shed/sheds to live in, water, heating, healthcare, safety from war. Make housing, work, healthcare, etc impossible to get for the migrants. Except migrant like you and me who can pay for everything we need, create jobs, pay into the system. For me it's about who contributes and who takes out.

EU politicians have refused to do that and dumped the migrants on the working classes of the affected countries, to lower wages and raise property values. Making life harder for the people who pay their wages. The alternative is far right governments who will deal with the problem. And that never ends well.
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with family...you can not just take your family in to another country without any money or work, the man tries to find anything and then brings his family...there is no other way to do it with a language barrier and 0 cash...its not about the man being a pussy and running away...

as for the war zone the women and children are mostly safe...most armies will not bother...if you are a male of fighting age in a war zone and not in uniform, then you are in deep shit...and during all this time they have to provide somehow for their families...

they will not adapt in the west mainly because of the language barrier and xenophobia...its not a good time to be a muslim in euro or the USA...they will fall back in to ghettos ect and be like the black population in the USA...

just look at the hate on this board and the assumptions...ISIS does not have a hard time recruiting people because the USA wont leave arabs alone in the middle east and when they run to europe they are treated like trash again...its a never ending circle...
Bombs don't discriminate women and children. These men as you say are coming for work.

But as you say if you're a fit male, the people will force you into uniform to go kill other Muslims.

Blaming the USA is biased. Are you saying the US is forcing Muslims to kill Muslims and funding these wars? Why are Muslims killing other Muslims and how far does this go back to in Islam? Then go back to pre Muslim times. We in Europe never blamed others for our wars.

How many are in Turkey or Libya and risking death trying to get to a non Muslim country. How many refugees are in safe Muslim countries? Here's an idea for the Muslim Brotherhood, maybe if the oil rich nations and people were to start giving some of their wealth to solve the problems, it would help.
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There's a misguided tendency of some to blame the West for their own troubles. Sometimes rightly, most times it's not.

The US isn't to blame for the fact that Islam is split into two main factions, then into many splinter groups. Who need very powerful despotic leaders to keep them under control, people who will destroy any opposition before it destroys them.

ISIS didn't start without huge funding, from where?

Afghanistan would now be a Russian province without the help of the US. After the US supplied the people with arms to over throw the Russians. The terrorist started bombing the US, instead of starting a war with Russia.

Saudi is fighting terrorists in Yemen. Iran is funding Muslims to kill other Muslims. Iraq was fighting a war with Iran, Iraq invaded Kuwait, Libya is a mess. The Ottoman Empire was no peaceful regime. It's legacy is the problems in the Balkans.

Africa is largely a mess with leaders like Mugabe ruling with an iron fist. After being given the country, by the world uniting against the Smith Regime, he proceeded to turn the bread basket of Africa into a basket case.

And yet they all blame the West for their desire to kill each other to take from each other. The trouble in the ME today is over oil. They want control of it before it runs out. Take the oil out of the situation and there's no ISIS, Al Qaeda, or any other bunch of fanatics killing fellow Muslims.
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How many Cubans do you think are in Miami or Mexicans in California?
Probably millions, but you don't see groups of syrians waiting at hardware stores hoping people will hire them for odd jobs like you do with mexicans.
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this is getting out of control... if not managed properly this crisis can be the start of a new war.
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Good luck finding programmers amongst the migrants. As for warehouse people, should the UK leave the EU you will have plenty of them. As for non Polish speaking people working in a warehouse, that might be a problem.

As for benefits including houses, schools, health, unemployment benefits. That will cost.

Yes $200,000 was a very low estimate. It could be double that for new homes in places with jobs.

London has a homeless crisis.
We can already see from statistics in western european countries that these african and middle eastern migrants DO NOT integrate and for the most part DO NOT work, either by choice or by inability to create jobs. We're talking about 70-90% depending on source country that are on the welfare system and there is no reason to suspect this latest batch will be any different. I don't see why the current Polish gov't (which again, will be gone as of Sunday) would agree to accept ANY african refugees when we see it ends up beign a mess and will likely need to take a shitload of ukrainian refugees (which DO integrate and work in our society, and *very* quickly learn the language because it's similar). We have tens of thousands of people in bordering post-soviet countries that need to be repatriated.

So that being said, it doesn't matter where they get those apartments - almost none of them will work to begin with.
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We can already see from statistics in western european countries that these african and middle eastern migrants DO NOT integrate and for the most part DO NOT work, either by choice or by inability to create jobs. We're talking about 70-90% depending on source country that are on the welfare system and there is no reason to suspect this latest batch will be any different. I don't see why the current Polish gov't (which again, will be gone as of Sunday) would agree to accept ANY african refugees when we see it ends up beign a mess and will likely need to take a shitload of ukrainian refugees (which DO integrate and work in our society, and *very* quickly learn the language because it's similar). We have tens of thousands of people in bordering post-soviet countries that need to be repatriated.

So that being said, it doesn't matter where they get those apartments - almost none of them will work to begin with.
There was a very interesting program from Trevor Phillips, who chaired the Equality and Human Rights Commission, recently. One would think he would come out for integration and how migrants fit in. He came out with the opposite after looking at the data.

Migrants don't integrate among their own cultural lines. He found statistics proving ethnic groups lived together in certain areas. Muslims are 12 times more likely to be convicted of a sex crime. Carribean more like to be commit a crime. Jews more likely to be Bankers or Lawyers, and so on. All along the line cultural lines.

The wooly liberal agenda is they all yearn to be just like us, is wrong.

You can take a man out of the ghetto, jungle, swamp, desert. But you can't take his culture out of him.
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You can take a man out of the ghetto, jungle, swamp, desert. But you can't take his culture out of him.
Exactly - How are you going to remove the whole 'wife beating and rape is ok, women are nothing' and 'the west is evil' from a 25-30 year old male islamic migrant that was taught that since the day he was born?
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[ I]SIS didn't start without huge funding, from where? ...
You don't think that Islamist Extremist Foundations had money to spend and seed this campaign?

A lot of ISIS' operating revenue is from crude oil sales from the 'Caliphate' lands they have looted.
Much of ISIS' weapons and vehicles were stolen from the Iraqi Military.
I might speculate that there were stashes of arms hidden from the Saddam regime also.
Syrian government arms (from Russia mainly) may have fallen into ISIS' hands also.

Ironic that the USA and the Russians are fighting against their own weapons in the hands of ISIS and more ironic that they put them there for ISIS to steal and fight with. The swords are indigenous but the explosives for the IEDs they use are made in the USA and Russia mainly ... they don't make C4 locally

But the YouTube CT bunch advances that ISIS is a CIA-Mossad Conspiracy ignoring the obvious to advance their anti-Western and anti-Israel agenda

So, don't waste you time arguing with doorknobs like our butt-hurt Serb friends
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i dont get why europeans are so afraid of the refugees. they are, by & large, not coming in order to take away your land like jew settlers.

maybe i am warped by US history & am ignorant of all the racism in europe. maybe thats why USA was founded by people sick of europe. but in USA, over the generations, most ethnic groups arrived here poor & unskilled. eventually they become americans if they make the effort to learn english. but here in USA many illegals do not bother to learn english, but they can get by & its OK. parts of miami are basically spanish speaking territory & its OK. theres no civil war between whites & illegals, as much as the media wants to portray one. in USA its hard to even tell who is illegal when your in a diverse area.

i'll take a syrian refugee who wants to work over a jew settler who wants to not shower & find new verses in the bible to take away more palestine land.

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We can already see from statistics in western european countries that these african and middle eastern migrants DO NOT integrate and for the most part DO NOT work, either by choice or by inability to create jobs. We're talking about 70-90% depending on source country that are on the welfare system and there is no reason to suspect this latest batch will be any different. I don't see why the current Polish gov't (which again, will be gone as of Sunday) would agree to accept ANY african refugees when we see it ends up beign a mess and will likely need to take a shitload of ukrainian refugees (which DO integrate and work in our society, and *very* quickly learn the language because it's similar). We have tens of thousands of people in bordering post-soviet countries that need to be repatriated.

So that being said, it doesn't matter where they get those apartments - almost none of them will work to begin with.
They do in the US. They can get jobs here and feel they have a future. In Europe you guys shun them so they stay isolated from your society.
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They do in the US. They can get jobs here and feel they have a future. In Europe you guys shun them so they stay isolated from your society.
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They do in the US. They can get jobs here and feel they have a future. In Europe you guys shun them so they stay isolated from your society.
As in most things, also here one can't talk about "Europe" as a country, there are major differences. The former eastern block countries tend to be massively xenophobic while having little to offer to the immigrants, while the richer, mainly the former empires that are in decline already start to get fed up from the multi-cultural (dis) integration.

All in all you may have a point though, if you show you have work ethics, if you show that you care about your new country, about the community, you get accepted in US better than in many European countries.

Government restrictions regarding work permits sure don't help either. However, it also have to be said that the values mentioned above are exactly those that many migrants and ethnic minorities absolutely disrespect.

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it's very funny seeing europeans use examples like this, all the while knowing how you treat 'gypsies' etc
Well I would be very curious to hear how "we Europeans" treat gypsies. Fill me in. Always great to hear the truth from somebody with zero personal experience.
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that asshole arrested her for not sitting in the back of the bus!
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As in most things, also here one can't talk about "Europe" as a country, there are major differences. The former eastern block countries tend to be massively xenophobic while having little to offer to the immigrants, while the richer, mainly the former empires that are in decline already start to get fed up from the multi-cultural (dis) integration.

All in all you may have a point though, if you show you have work ethics, if you show that you care about your new country, about the community, you get accepted in US better than in many European countries.

Government restrictions regarding work permits sure don't help either. However, it also have to be said that the values mentioned above are exactly those that many migrants and ethnic minorities absolutely disrespect.



Well I would be very curious to hear how "we Europeans" treat gypsies. Fill me in. Always great to hear the truth from somebody with zero personal experience.
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and then she helped change the world.
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