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Old 11-04-2015, 03:06 PM   #1
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Breaking: Bomb Bought Down Plane...

So, what happens next?..
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No proof, just a 'feeling'.
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The US and the UK governments seem to think it was...

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I expect that will be the case.....
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I suspect the Russians and Egyptians know more than they're letting on. Each are keeping shtum for very different reasons.
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The US military has claimed to have tracked a single a heat flash at the time the plane went down. They said this a few days ago that there was no heat source trail to the ground, as in no rocket launch. Meaning it had to be some sort of explosion, be it fuel tank explosion or bomb.
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Brainwashed morons think it is a great idea. Sadly morons are high in numbers.
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"A senior U.S. defense official said on November 2 that infrared images of the area taken when the Airbus A321-200 was in the air detected a heat flash that suggests the plane was destroyed internally by a bomb or a fuel-tank explosion." ... conjecture at this point.
Satellite Image Suggests Internal Explosion Downed Russian Plane

RT has not made an unbiased report of this new allegation -- they are working on a statement I am sure ...


Maybe, it is an FSB false flag operation? Moscow just established a 4th airbase yesterday. Just like the CIA blew up the towers in NYC ... Putin will launch a full scale invasion now

An FSB false flag operation makes as much sense as the 9/11 false flag allegations. Why aren't the CT theorists getting manic over this -- do you think they might have an agenda?
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So now the north African economies will crumble due to the destruction of their own tourist industry caused mainly by their fanatical Islamic brothers who dont want to see westerners getting sunburnt and spending money. Next we'll see another surge of migrants en route to a better economic situation, which is anywhere in western Europe. No doubt Merkel will call them refugees. Give it while longer and their reluctance to integrate will lead to radicalisation and more of life's failures turned wannabe martyrs. What a great thing this religion is.
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So, what happens next?..
I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

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problem with the burns/heat theory is the plane was fully fueled.. wouldn't that cause an explosion if it broke up? i think they were also saying there was detectable efforts to try to get control of the plane?
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Carribean crisis? you mean Cuban crisis?
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I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

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you need to get out of the house more often dude...russians never did well dealing with muslims, why you think this time it will be different? nothing to do with america...
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Carribean crisis? you mean Cuban crisis?
Yes, that one. In Russia it's known as Caribbean crisis. Right now we have no nukes on Cuba as well as the States have no nukes in Turkey, but the overall situation is very unstable. If one of the sides make a mistake, it may start a chain reaction which will end up very bad to both Russians and citizens of NATO countries.

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Brainwashed morons think it is a great idea. Sadly morons are high in numbers.
In some aspects is not so much moron, as it is duped into thinking this will be ok. The vast majority of people tend to believe the Gubments and what they are told and follow along like good sheep. Some are morons and some are not.

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I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

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Russian government bombs apartmemt building as an excuse to start a war with chechnya killing inmocent civilians

Russia down jet mh17 killing innocent civilians

Russian plane blows up in the sky in egypt... USAs fault....

You need to look in the mirror commie idiot.
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Not heard any talk of the "black box" yet wonder why that is ?
The russian government will be "decoding" it until they can gauge public perception then spin its contents to however they see fit is most beneficial to them.
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Never heard of that. Any proof or just your drunk delirium, as usually? Some people think you are a troll, but they are so wrong... You are just a stupid and pathetic clown.

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One was decoded already. The other one will be decoded later - it's damaged a bit.

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I'll tell you what will be next. If it will be proven, the media will say: "American rebels did it". This is not a secret that anti-Assad Islamists get trained and supplied by the States. In case if the bomb was made in the USA, the situation will get even worse. The American rebels will turn into American terrorists, because you can shot down a plane with a missile by mistake, but if you did it with a bomb, it's a 100% planned terrorist attack.

In current situation (which is not good at all), this can be really dangerous. I'm not a suicide and I understand what there will be no winner in WWIII which does not look as such an impossible thing anymore, just like it was during the Caribbean crisis.

Just my
Hey imagine that the resident commie blames America.. Who would have ever suspected that dumb Russians would blame the USA.. I mean it's not like they blame the USA for every fucking thing that happens... No way..

Holy fuck you guys are brainwashed..
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the reaction will not be emotional and to be well thought out.
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Hey imagine that the resident commie blames America.. Who would have ever suspected that dumb Russians would blame the USA.. I mean it's not like they blame the USA for every fucking thing that happens... No way..

Holy fuck you guys are brainwashed..
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Why the U.S. Hopes ISIS Didn't Destroy the Russian Airliner

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If the airliner?s destruction in linked to ISIS, it may clarify U.S. thinking in two important ways. It could solidify public support for more military action (imagine if 224 Americans had died in the blast). It also might force Congress to act; it has stood passively on the sidelines since Obama ordered bombing of ISIS targets to begin in August 2014. The U.S. public tends to be fickle about sending troops to fight overseas; a congressional declaration of war on ISIS might go a long way to steeling the nation for a lengthy campaign.

Confirmation that an ISIS explosion brought down the plane would signal that the U.S.-led efforts against the ISIS heartland in Iraq and Syria have done little to deter the terror group?s ambitions. If confirmed, the fact that the airliner was brought down by ISIS?s Egyptian affiliate would only highlight the challenge posed by the group and its expanding network of like-minded terrorists.

Secondly, it would show ISIS?s willingness to bring the war home to both Russians and Americans.
Hopefully, there will be some aircraft malfunction that caused this disaster -- and not some cover-up to protect vulnerability. Conversely, if it was a terrorist event both the USA and Russia have to seriously rethink their strategies.

Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and:

Russia has anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to defend against "different emergencies, such as hijacking" - CBS News

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Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said in an interview with the daily Komsomolskaya Pravda that the anti-aircraft missiles are there to project Russian fighter jets from a possible attack or hijack while on mission.

"There can be different emergencies, such as hijacking the jet on the territory of a neighboring country or an attack on it," he said. "We should be prepared for that."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sf8EpgkSQ
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Hopefully, there will be some aircraft malfunction that caused this disaster -- and not some cover-up to protect vulnerability. Conversely, if it was a terrorist event both the USA and Russia have to seriously rethink their strategies.

Russia has placed anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and:

Russia has anti-aircraft missiles in Syria to defend against "different emergencies, such as hijacking" - CBS News
How the fuck do you hijack a military jet?..
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According to the local news, some additional SA-22 Greyhound and SA-17 Grizzly (AKA BUK) systems were sent to Syria. Those are made to work together: SA-17 to intercept high flying targets like bombers and jet-fighters (50 km range for targets like F-15) and SA-22 against the low flying ones like cruise missiles etc (can hit a target with a zero attitude). I don't think that ISIS has anything of that...
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Shit happens and we move on (we investigate), that's the mature thing to do, but Im sure they wanna bomb people and harass people that had nothing to do with it.
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How the fuck do you hijack a military jet?..
.... i think they'r referring to commercial jets that are being used as missiles, as seen during 2001
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You missed it -- it got lost in the translation ...
Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev I think meant to say a passenger jet hijacked from a foreign country and used to suicide bomb Russian airbases in Syria, Syrian government installations or Syrian and their Hezbollah and Iranian allied ground forces. That is the way I interrupted the poor English.

This is a very remote possibility to openly consider -- even a boisterous comment -- we are ready for anything now. It may also be a harbinger statement of what caused the Russian plane crash in the Sinai.

Are we so quick to forget the Gulf of Tonkin incident or more recently the WMD allegations of the Bush administration? Slow down and think ...
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.... i think they'r referring to commercial jets that are being used as missiles, as seen during 2001
Indeed. But that's an official version. If you look at tech specs of Russian air defense systems in Syria, you will see they have an outspoken military functionаlity. E.g. SA-17 intercepts USAF ALCM's with a 70%-80% probability from 26 km and the same probability for F-15 from 50 km. As I said above, I don't think that Syrian Islamists have anything of those.
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This problem can occur only in those who want to attack our base or our plane.
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to bribe the pilot
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Egypt wouldn't even be my last idea for a destination vacation...
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Egypt wouldn't even be my last idea for a destination vacation...
I was thought for many years to spent a vacation there. They have a great sea etc, but I was always afraid to bring my family there. It's like to bring them into Mexico.
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Looks like different sources have different views on why:

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I thought this was a reaction to the US sending jets over there.
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I thought this was a reaction to the US sending jets over there.
And you were right
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Indeed. But that's an official version. If you look at tech specs of Russian air defense systems in Syria, you will see they have an outspoken military functionаlity. E.g. SA-17 intercepts USAF ALCM's with a 70%-80% probability from 26 km and the same probability for F-15 from 50 km. As I said above, I don't think that Syrian Islamists have anything of those.
Well, we already have proof that Russians can shoot down commercial airliners.....
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Well, we already have proof that Russians can shoot down commercial airliners.....
You can do the same, right? E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

If it will be proven that bomb was made and installed by the American rebels, you guys will move to a brand new level - from anti-aircraft missiles to terrorist attacks. Such a great progress.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:44 PM   #42
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"The American Rebels" -- WTF?

Smack one Muslim you smack them all maybe.

I am sorry about the civilian lives lost on this plane. Russians were not a target in the Middle East until the Kremlin sent troops and aircraft to fight in Syria -- what did you expect? An ''honourable'' fight?

Looking for more conspiracy theories?
Russian Airliner Takedown Over Sinai: Was It The MOSSAD, the CIA, ISIS Or All Three? | The Millennium Report

These is plenty of psychosis to go around.

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"The American Rebels" -- WTF?
The anti-Assad rebels are being supported and supplied by the USA. Don't you read the news? Do you live in a cave? US Intelligence Confirms US Support for ISIS, How the US Supports the Islamic State (ISIS), Officials: ISIS Arose From US Support For al-Qaeda In Iraq, Iraq Residents: 'We Know America is Providing ISIS with Weapons & Food', How the US Helped ISIS, How the US Helped ISIS Grow Into a Monster, U.S. supports ISIS via air supplies?, America's Allies Are Funding ISIS etc...

Didn't you know that? How come?
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So from this you assume that the Americans are instrumental in the death of your citizens?

Do you have any other symptoms?

There has been ISIS and Muslim Brotherhood insurgent terrorist attacks for several years now in the Sinai. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is allied with the Muslim Brotherhood that Hafez al Assad attacked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim...rhood_of_Syria.

So, you go in helping his family remain in power and you attack the same enemies of the Assad family (sect). Oh yeah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood#Russia -- MB is a banned terrorist organisation in Russia. MB may have done this and not ISIS

Civilians die in wars don't they?

The USA has over 10,000 dead between 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan Invasions ...
There are untold millions dead,wounded and displaced in the Middle East just in the past 20 years.

Maybe, Donald Trump's foreign policy should be to build a wall around Isisland.
The world needs a new gigantic waste dump and toxic landfill area -- How about it Trumpster?
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So from this you assume that the Americans are instrumental in the death of your citizens?
No I didn't say that. I said "IF". The investigation is not completed yet. The anti-Assad Islamists are surely being bucked up (trained and supplied) by the States, but there is still no proof they did it (the terrorist attack). So let's wait for the official results.
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The unconfirmed reports suggesting British jihadists were involved in the bombing claim that Britons trained in Syria with an "electronics background" might have helped to construct the bomb that brought down the Russian jet. "Chatter" picked up by GCHQ reportedly featured jihadists with London and Birmingham accents celebrating in Egypt after the explosion.
There is a version that Brits did it...
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Reports: Britons might have 'helped construct the bomb'



There is a version that Brits did it...


I hear the black box had an unidentified noise, a boom, before the planes crashed. A bomb is alleged to have been the noise
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Reports: Britons might have 'helped construct the bomb'



There is a version that Brits did it...
I think we are forgetting that it's Muslims against everyone else - The only way we are going to win this is to forget about political borders...

If we don't we will do their job for them and destroy each other.....
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