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Due · 12-07-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Yes there is. Your are your banks customer and if your reason for a chargeback is valid they will work with you to recover the funds.

I had a bank that duplicated a wire transfer before, it was going from our main company to our payroll company. I notified the bank when I saw they took the money twice and they immediately returned the money for the second wire.

On the receiving account both transfers arrived, after a few days the bank contacted me and said they have gotten a request to return one of the transfers, they wanted to know if they could return it or not. If I had said no the money would have stayed in the account, even though it was an obvious mistake, the bank confirmed that to me

Don't confuse "refunds" with "chargebacks"

trevesty · 12-07-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

That's what I was thinking. The funds won't be sent if they don't exist in the first place. If there was an error with putting the information in, it can be sent back, but that's about it.

Due · 12-07-2015, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I totally agree. My question had more to do with the OP's hysterical tone. If it was for $352 then I would say she is way too hysterical. Make that amount $32,532 and it makes more sense (and may actually indicate CCBill is having financial problems).

So it does matter. Not in terms of whether or not it should be paid (of course it should be) but as to other aspects.

Any amounts regardless of size should always be paid, it's a matter of principle. With that said, someone making $50K per pay period probably have a way better understanding of what can go wrong and how to handle it over someone who makes $500 per pay period.

Harmon · 12-07-2015, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

I had a bank that duplicated a wire transfer before, it was going from our main company to our payroll company. I notified the bank when I saw they took the money twice and they immediately returned the money for the second wire.

On the receiving account both transfers arrived, after a few days the bank contacted me and said they have gotten a request to return one of the transfers, they wanted to know if they could return it or not. If I had said no the money would have stayed in the account, even though it was an obvious mistake, the bank confirmed that to me

Don't confuse "refunds" with "chargebacks"

That's where I think the OP went wrong. He used wrong verbiage

CandidHotties · 12-07-2015, 01:56 PM

Got my Verotel payout today..just like last week, last month last year..never had any troubles with them.Every Monday payments are sent . got them in my bank account in the same day ( usually) or sometimes the next day afternoon. Maybe you should try them on too

PornDude · 12-07-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka

I also didn't get a payment in November.

On the top, my friend told me that CCBill (their bank) charged back a payment he got from them months ago via wire!

He even sent me original swift request and this is looking very, very fucked up situation.

Can anybody from CCBill explain what is going on?

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Originally Posted by Due

Bullshit there is no way you can charge back a wire transfer.

You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

Harmon · 12-07-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka

You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint.

PornDude · 12-07-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint.

What point again is suspicious? Suddenly you became a bank expert? He was getting payments from CCBill for over 5 years and randomly 2 of them get request to be sent back? And next payments came in normally like always.

I don't need a fake nick on GFY if this is what you are asking.

Harmon · 12-07-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka

I don't need a fake nick on GFY if this is what you are asking.

What? You mad or something bruh?

3 people got denied payments. Nobody else did. Are you kidding? I am not saying this isn't a serious issue. I'm saying that it's isolated. Should Cave Creek answer? Yes. Just defining it.

Take a pill, kiddo.

PornDude · 12-07-2015, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

What? You mad or something bruh?

3 people got denied payments. Nobody else did. Are you kidding? I am not saying this isn't a serious issue. I'm saying that it's isolated. Should Cave Creek answer? Yes. Just defining it.

Take a pill, kiddo.

Indeed you don't have problems.

Because you can't sell your gfy signature on CCBill and this is pretty much only money you make in adult business.

JasonCollins · 12-08-2015, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CandidHotties

Got my Verotel payout today..just like last week, last month last year..never had any troubles with them.Every Monday payments are sent . got them in my bank account in the same day ( usually) or sometimes the next day afternoon. Maybe you should try them on too

Payouts on time since 1997 and still going strong!

Harmon · 12-08-2015, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka

Indeed you don't have problems.

Because you can't sell your gfy signature on CCBill and this is pretty much only money you make in adult business.

A) I don't have a signature, you mental fucking midget.

B) Yeah. I'm broke. Have never made a dime.

You seriously have to be one of the dumbest mother fuckers to ever grace this board. I really hope your scamming ass doesn't get paid and your entire family goes hungry for the holidays. You fucking piece of dogshit.

jscott · 12-08-2015, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCollins

Payouts on time since 1997 and still going strong!

I can confirm this

sojproductions · 12-08-2015, 04:27 AM

We had a payment go missing from the 9th November from CCBill, it took a while to get to the bottom of (received payment after about 3 weeks), eventually we were told it was stopped for fraud checks (confirmed by our receiving bank), and verification paperwork was submitted outside of the deadline and the money was returned to ccbill, once it was returned ccbill were great and went out of their way to make sure it was sent to us that day, we spoke over the phone daily until it was sorted out.

At no point was I ever worried that we would not get paid. We've worked with CCBill for 12 years and this has happened a few times for different reasons and it always ended well. The biggest problem is that when the money gets stopped no one knows where to look or where the money is so it always takes a little while to get to the bottom of.

BigFurry · 12-08-2015, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sojproductions

We had a payment go missing from the 9th November from CCBill, it took a while to get to the bottom of (received payment after about 3 weeks), eventually we were told it was stopped for fraud checks (confirmed by our receiving bank), and verification paperwork was submitted outside of the deadline and the money was returned to ccbill, once it was returned ccbill were great and went out of their way to make sure it was sent to us that day, we spoke over the phone daily until it was sorted out.

At no point was I ever worried that we would not get paid. We've worked with CCBill for 12 years and this has happened a few times for different reasons and it always ended well. The biggest problem is that when the money gets stopped no one knows where to look or where the money is so it always takes a little while to get to the bottom of.

Thanks. This aligns with the previous information.

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Originally Posted by weedy

Today I was talking with one of my business costumers using CCBill. He received a phone call from his bank. They told him that the german state supervision of banking was inform the bank, all wires from ccbill will be freezed for some time. My costumer asked for the reason: It is confidential, they told.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

ATTN INVESTIGATIONS

DUE TO COMPLIANCE ISSUE

See: Learn the compliance lessons from an epic fail in correspondent banking and trade finance

It means it's suspicious. Get it? There are 3 of you in the thread?

Take the hint.

My guess is that someone in Europe got suspicious about all the CCBILL wires coming in to random persons and companies, and they wanted to investigate and make sure it's not fraud/money laundering/etc.

I'm not worried either now. :-)

PornDude · 12-08-2015, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

A) I don't have a signature, you mental fucking midget.

B) Yeah. I'm broke. Have never made a dime.

You seriously have to be one of the dumbest mother fuckers to ever grace this board. I really hope your scamming ass doesn't get paid and your entire family goes hungry for the holidays. You fucking piece of dogshit.

You are dumb gfy clown posting fake Adsense earnings and stolen pictures of gay fitness models pretending to be you.

C) You are ugly and broke

pornmasta · 12-08-2015, 08:23 AM

more i check my affiliates stats with ccbill and more i Wonder if they really accept transactions... seriously

NickBaer · 12-08-2015, 10:10 AM

Most others pay me by ACH. Amazon. AEBN. HotMovies. A few use PayPal. I hate CCBill Wires. Wires cost $15 to send and $15 to receive. ACH is free. Payoneer is $2-$5 per load. If I recall, Paxum is $5 to withdraw, or less if you pay annually for the card.

bizgoddess69 · 12-08-2015, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

more i check my affiliates stats with ccbill and more i Wonder if they really accept transactions... seriously

Check your Approval Declines Report - I am pretty certain that report will show plenty of Activity for recent periods.

If this report is not showing up in your stats contact the fraudulent/risk department and see if they can enable these stats to show on your panel.

Your welcome friend

Due · 12-08-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka

You call it bullshit, I will attach you a document now.

Check here: take.ms/i6RQn

You still think it's bullshit?

That doesn't appear to be a chargeback, its a compliance issue.
Either the beneficiary, the sender, the receiving bank, the country the receiver is located in or an intermediate bank was most likely sanctioned to some extend by the US government.

Normal people can't revert wire transfers. The US Government can't do it neither, but if the bank doesn't comply they will loose the right to perform transactions in USD, so banks normally comply with their "request".

Marcus · 12-08-2015, 04:34 PM

Got my direct deposit yesterday, right on time as always. CCBill never been late ever since I started in 2001. Well run company and I am grateful to them for that.

rowan · 12-09-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Due

That doesn't appear to be a chargeback, its a compliance issue.
Either the beneficiary, the sender, the receiving bank, the country the receiver is located in or an intermediate bank was most likely sanctioned to some extend by the US government.

Normal people can't revert wire transfers. The US Government can't do it neither, but if the bank doesn't comply they will loose the right to perform transactions in USD, so banks normally comply with their "request".

Yeah, I think if it was possible to do a sender initiated chargeback/reversal on a wire we'd be hearing a lot more complaints about dodgy companies stealing payments back from their affiliates.

I had a final payment accidentally sent twice by a biller; they sent me an email asking for it back, and I went into my bank to authorise the reversal. Pretty sure they knew that I could have ignored that email and kept the money.

Rochard · 12-09-2015, 06:19 PM

Seems CCBill is still in business. Sigh.

SIK · 12-09-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems CCBill is still in business. Sigh.

Sure was a close one.

don_carlos · 12-16-2015, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus

Got my direct deposit yesterday, right on time as always. CCBill never been late ever since I started in 2001. Well run company and I am grateful to them for that.

Good for you Marcus. I got my last wire on Nov 10. The one of Dec 7 has not made it yet to my bank account. All explanations from account support are so far quite weird and unprofessional. They say their wire specialist (one female employee !!) is working on it ...

The alert message when you login to the CCBILL website "there are issues with international wires" got replaced with another one.

An international operating company like CCBILL is losing credibility with such unclear communication. I have been working with them for over 12 years and never had such a problem.

don_carlos · 12-16-2015, 08:10 AM

CCBill Addressing Isolated International Wire Issues with Banks
Over the course of the past couple pay periods, we have received a small number of international wire returns on funds for an isolated number of CCBill accounts. We are currently working with the banks that have initiated these returns, as well as the Clients affected to address and resolve this issue.

Please note that all wire payments were initiated by CCBill on time and on schedule, as per our standard distribution timelines. As always, we do everything we can to make sure our merchants and their affiliates get paid when they should. We are diligently working with the banks to help identify and address the situation to prevent it from happening in the future.

If you are a CCBill Merchant currently waiting on a prior wire payment, please contact our Merchant Services team ....

Thank you for your patience on this matter, our goal is to get this issue resolved as quickly as possible so that international wire payments can continue without issue, moving forward.

greefis · 12-16-2015, 08:21 AM

Oh god..

BigFurry · 12-16-2015, 08:24 AM

We got the last week's international wire in Europe yesterday, on schedule, and without any problems.

BigFurry · 12-16-2015, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by don_carlos

They say their wire specialist (one female employee !!) is working on it ...

I feel for you, it must be a headache. However I doubt it that it's an issue that could be solved quicker with more personnel. It's probably the banks slowing down the process.

Fat Panda · 12-16-2015, 08:38 AM

its 2016, why in the fuck doesnt ccbill have ach deposit of us accounts?

are y'all that fucking ass backwards?

don_carlos · 12-16-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFurry

I feel for you, it must be a headache. However I doubt it that it's an issue that could be solved quicker with more personnel. It's probably the banks slowing down the process.

No idea why banks should slow down the process. I even heard that governmental institutions could be responsible for blocking wires ...

NatalieK · 12-16-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Due

Sorry but you are wrong,the amount of digits in an IBAN number varies per country.

Check it here: https://www.ecnp.eu/meetings/IBAN
Iceland and Turkey is the only countries with 26 digits.

bank code, sort code & account number makes up an IBAN number. So 16 digits wouldn't be possible in Spain or the UK neither.. we've always had 8 digit & 10 digit account numbers, 6 digit sort codes plus the bank name & code.. 22 to 24 digits for us

With regards to ccbill, I've never had a problem receiving payments from them, let's see how it is this month

NatalieK · 12-16-2015, 10:16 AM

Just noticed, an old thread...

No problems with ccbill this year

BigFurry · 12-16-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by don_carlos

No idea why banks should slow down the process. I even heard that governmental institutions could be responsible for blocking wires ...

I didn't mean deliberately slowing down, just generally slow, as there can be multiple parties playing a role in the transfer of a wire.

don_carlos · 12-16-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFurry

I didn't mean deliberately slowing down, just generally slow, as there can be multiple parties playing a role in the transfer of a wire.

When I transferred money in spring from Switzerland to Boston it took a couple hours only ... why is it such a mess from US to Switzerland?

fitzmulti · 12-16-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by don_carlos

They say their wire specialist (one female employee !!) is working on it ...

As noted above, if there's an issue that would be on the reciving bank's end, or whatever the issue is, having a 'team of people' wouldn't necessarily help more...but..
What does it matter if the one person is female or not?

You COULD have just as well written:
""They say their wire specialist is working on it ...""

rowan · 12-16-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Just noticed, an old thread...

No problems with ccbill this year

Are you misreading the date because it's in the weird mm-dd-yyyy format that only the USA uses? Thread started approx 2 weeks ago, and a post today copied text from ccbill's blog. It's certainly a current issue.

don_carlos · 12-17-2015, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fitzmulti

...What does it matter if the one person is female or not?

You COULD have just as well written:
""They say their wire specialist is working on it ...""

Does not matter at all, of course.
I obviously did not pay enough attention to my english ...

nastymaster · 12-17-2015, 06:08 AM

I have a similar problem, with other companies is no such problem, as it will decide ccbill?
My wire back in ccbill.

don_carlos · 12-17-2015, 11:06 AM

Paul from CCBILL was very helpful. He was the first one to inform me that the wire came back to CCBILL and that a rewire was made.
Let's cross our fingers that this one will make all the way to Switzerland.

Update: The wire just arrived and is provisionally booked on my account and will be hopefully soon a binding one.

wslover317 · 12-18-2015, 08:46 AM

Same here, Verotel has been early for me, every single payment

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Originally Posted by CandidHotties

Got my Verotel payout today..just like last week, last month last year..never had any troubles with them.Every Monday payments are sent . got them in my bank account in the same day ( usually) or sometimes the next day afternoon. Maybe you should try them on too

nastymaster · 12-28-2015, 04:23 PM

Three weeks I can not solve a problem with my international wire, each time talking in live chat, I get promised to send my letters to the wire specialist.
To my letters does not meet wire specialist. Who has a contact wire specialist in ccbill? icq or email address ?

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12-16-2015, 08:10 AM	#126
don_carlos Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 6	From CCBILL's Blog CCBill Addressing Isolated International Wire Issues with Banks Over the course of the past couple pay periods, we have received a small number of international wire returns on funds for an isolated number of CCBill accounts. We are currently working with the banks that have initiated these returns, as well as the Clients affected to address and resolve this issue. Please note that all wire payments were initiated by CCBill on time and on schedule, as per our standard distribution timelines. As always, we do everything we can to make sure our merchants and their affiliates get paid when they should. We are diligently working with the banks to help identify and address the situation to prevent it from happening in the future. If you are a CCBill Merchant currently waiting on a prior wire payment, please contact our Merchant Services team .... Thank you for your patience on this matter, our goal is to get this issue resolved as quickly as possible so that international wire payments can continue without issue, moving forward.

12-08-2015, 08:23 AM	#117
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 18,946	more i check my affiliates stats with ccbill and more i Wonder if they really accept transactions... seriously

12-08-2015, 04:34 PM	#121
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	Got my direct deposit yesterday, right on time as always. CCBill never been late ever since I started in 2001. Well run company and I am grateful to them for that.

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12-16-2015, 08:24 AM	#128
BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,553	We got the last week's international wire in Europe yesterday, on schedule, and without any problems.

12-16-2015, 08:38 AM	#130
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	its 2016, why in the fuck doesnt ccbill have ach deposit of us accounts? are y'all that fucking ass backwards?

12-16-2015, 10:16 AM	#133
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12-17-2015, 06:08 AM	#139
nastymaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 73	I have a similar problem, with other companies is no such problem, as it will decide ccbill? My wire back in ccbill.

12-17-2015, 11:06 AM	#140
don_carlos Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 6	Paul from CCBILL was very helpful. He was the first one to inform me that the wire came back to CCBILL and that a rewire was made. Let's cross our fingers that this one will make all the way to Switzerland. Update: The wire just arrived and is provisionally booked on my account and will be hopefully soon a binding one.

12-28-2015, 04:23 PM	#142
nastymaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 73	Three weeks I can not solve a problem with my international wire, each time talking in live chat, I get promised to send my letters to the wire specialist. To my letters does not meet wire specialist. Who has a contact wire specialist in ccbill? icq or email address ?