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Old 01-25-2016, 04:58 PM   #1
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Looking to save money by making my own wine.

Ok, so I drink a bottle a night on average and my wife drinks a bottle every couple of nights on average.
So thats's 365 for me and 183 for her which gives 548 bottles.

Now sometimes we have friends over so I guess that could be rounded up to 600 or even 700 bottles of 70cl.

According to this Google Search Google it would take 600 - 800 grapes to make a bottle so lets take an average of 700.

700 grapes * by 650 bottles means I need about 455,000 grapes.

Tesco sell them in punnets for £2 which contain about 45 grapes so based on that I would spend over £20,000. This obviously isn't economically viable.

So how many grapes are on an average grape tree.. Would 455,000 grapes be on a single tree and could I harvest them and save a fortune?
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Brass also makes wine in the toilet. I'm telling you, if he had how to blog he'd make a lot more than he does as a sigga. Signature advertiser.
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Brass also makes wine in the toilet. I'm telling you, if he had how to blog he'd make a lot more than he does as a sigga. Signature advertiser.
I can't see sigs, I use ADblock.

Never thought about making wine in the toilet, I guess I would be worried about it getting flushed away.
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Never thought about making wine in the toilet, I guess I would be worried about it getting flushed away.
Old prison secret. You can start with frozen grape juice concentrate. Need brass to fill in details.
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LOL!

If you think grapes would be the most expensive component of making your own wine...

Well, then you have a whole set of other problems coming your way!

Next time, try to think and calculate BEFORE you drink your daily bottle of wine.
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LOL!

If you think grapes are the most expensive part of making your own wine...

Well, then you have a whole set of other problems coming your way!

Next time, try to think and calculate BEFORE you drink your daily bottle of wine.
So wiseguy. What else do I need to consider.

It's fucking wine, crushed and stored, no?

My biggest problem is I don't think I can grow grapes in this country I was thinking about asking Gspotproductions to help me. I am sure she has an Orchard.
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What else do I need to consider.

Look for a wholesaler, purchase the wine quarterly in large case lots not daily/weekly.
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Ok, so I drink a bottle a night on average and my wife drinks a bottle every couple of nights on average.
So thats's 365 for me and 183 for her which gives 548 bottles.

Now sometimes we have friends over so I guess that could be rounded up to 600 or even 700 bottles of 70cl.

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You must be one fat fuck. But look at it this way, you'll lose a few pounds if you make your own, because you'll actually have to exert some energy.
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Look for a wholesaler, purchase the wine quarterly in large case lots not daily/weekly.
Sigh, trust L-Pink not to get it. Making my own wine is more than just about the financial benefits it's about creating something.
I more interested in crushing grapes, not going to a wholesaler.
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You must be one fat fuck. But look at it this way, you'll lose a few pounds if you make your own, because you'll actually have to exert some energy.
Are you fucking retarded?

If you bothered to meet me you would know I am a skinny little fucker and the only energy being exerted will be my wifes as she squishes dem fucking grapes.
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Sigh, trust L-Pink not to get it. Making my own wine is more than just about the financial benefits it's about creating something.
I more interested in crushing grapes, not going to a wholesaler.

Forget your own thread title already? .... I'll refresh your wine addled brain, "Looking to save money by making my own wine"

And your OP doesn't mention creating anything. I does however say you want to save a fortune.


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If you REALLY want to save money on wine...

First, you both have to admit you are alcoholics.

2nd, get help and counseling.

3rd, enjoy your new found savings by not buying 10 bottles of wine a week, which is about $ 5,000 a year.

You're basically drinking your annual vacation you and your wife could be taking, instead of living a life of alcoholism.

Think about it. Admitting the problem is the first step. Get help. Good luck.
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If you REALLY want to save money on wine...

First, you both have to admit you are alcoholics.

2nd, get help.

3rd, enjoy your new found savings by not buying 10 bottles of wine a week, which is about $ 5,000 a year.

You're basically drinking your annual vacation you and your wife could be taking, instead of living a life of alcoholism.

Think about it. Admitting the problem is the first step. Get help. Good luck.
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ah yes, the emotional reaction to the truth.

You just made your first step.

If you really love yourself and your wife, you will pull yourself out out of the drinking hole you are in. The hole only gets deeper if you don't.

Remember years ago, when it was just a glass a day? Now it's bottle, or more? Think about a couple years from now how much you both will be drinking.

The party is over. Wake up.
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ah yes, the emotional reaction to the truth.

You just made your first step.

If you really love yourself and your wife, you will pull yourself out out of the drinking hole you are in. The hole only gets deeper if you don't.

Remember years ago, when it was just a glass a day? Now it's bottle, or more? Think about a couple years from now how much you both will be drinking.

The party is over. Wake up.
Who taught you to preach?
Love my wife? 10 years in and am looking for ways out.she is the reason I drink I guess she says the same about me.
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Who taught you to preach?
Love my wife? 10 years in and am looking for ways out.she is the reason I drink I guess she says the same about me.
Good. You are in tune with the truth. The answer is not drinking, the answer is, it's time for both of you to be honest with each other and stop punishing yourself with alcohol.

It might be as you say, both of you are using alcohol to buffer a sinking relationship. Both of you may be afraid to be alone or don't have the strength to be honest with each other. Usually when couples stop talking the problems begin. I think you should open up a dialogue with your wife and talk to her about the underlying problems which are bringing about the drinking.

Right now, the alcohol is having a negative influence on your behavior and ability to reason, so it's important to clean up and get off the booze before you both really start talking. With the volume of wine you are drinking, it will only take about 3 or 4 weeks to get clean and feel great again. Then you both can really start talking.

You will go thru major low blood sugar episodes by stopping drinking. It's not the alcohol you are missing, it's the sugar. You will have to eat better and take walks to fight it. I suggest a slow tapering of the booze, and not going cold turkey. Cold turkey is a shock to your system and is not a good way to quit. A slow downsizing before stopping will work.

If you drink a bottle a day, cut that in half for 10 days. Then reduce to a glass a day... bring your body down slowly off the sugar addiction and supplement with food and walking. Also Vitamin B100 helps. When you are down to a glass a day, stay there for about 5 days. Then stop. Remember, it's the sugar your body is craving and the calories. When you stop drinking, you will feel it. Your body will scream for sugar and it will hurt. But it can be beat. Lots of food, carbs, walking, b100, while tapering off. Get your body off the sugar and onto food.

Take about a month, then you will notice a huge change. A huge rush of energy. Your mind will be clear like it was when you were a kid. You have no idea how easy the human body and mind can repair itself when you feed it right. Then you both can really start talking things out. You may find there really was no problem at all between you both, other than the alcohol that has been slowly depriving you both of life.
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also, stay on top of your eating. NO junk food, lots of whole foods, proteins, carbs, etc... you don't have to be a vegan, but just clean up the food you eat because your body will start to rely on it when you cut off the sugar supply. Eat hearty. You may even gain weight while coming off booze, but that's ok. Your body is adjusting. Then after the storm, you can regulate your eating and stay on better track.

It's not rocket science and you don't need meds or even group therapy. You need to listen to your own inner voice and do the right thing. Before you know it a month will come and go and you'll be a new person.
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Ok, so I drink a bottle a night on average and my wife drinks a bottle every couple of nights on average.
So thats's 365 for me and 183 for her which gives 548 bottles.

Now sometimes we have friends over so I guess that could be rounded up to 600 or even 700 bottles of 70cl.

According to this Google Search Google it would take 600 - 800 grapes to make a bottle so lets take an average of 700.

700 grapes * by 650 bottles means I need about 455,000 grapes.

Tesco sell them in punnets for £2 which contain about 45 grapes so based on that I would spend over £20,000. This obviously isn't economically viable.

So how many grapes are on an average grape tree.. Would 455,000 grapes be on a single tree and could I harvest them and save a fortune?
Having worked 10+ years as a cellar rat at a winery I can tell you
A- grapes grow on vines not trees. Takes 5-10 years for a vine to start producing grapes for wine.
B- 455,000 grapes.... you're looking at acres of vines. You can get about 20 cases (240 bottles) of wine per acre is all goes well. From mature vines.
C- Tanks, barrels, bottles, filters, pumps, corks and other equipment are a major expense
D- you can go to a store and buy DYI wine kits including grape must, ready to create your own wine.
E- If you like good wine, forget all the above, buy wine at the store. Vineyards & wine production are a FUCKING LOT OF WORK. And usually produce crappy wine.
For every winery out there, maybe 1 out of 10 make drinkable wine.
For every guy making home made wine, maybe 1 out of 1000 makes wine that's OK to drink. I didn't say great wine.
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If you bothered to meet me you would know I am a skinny little fucker and the only energy being exerted will be my wifes as she squishes dem fucking grapes.
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Are you fucking retarded?

If you bothered to meet me you would know I am a skinny little fucker and the only energy being exerted will be my wifes as she squishes dem fucking grapes.
I'm sorry. I meant to say alcoholic fat fuck.
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Good. You are in tune with the truth. The answer is not drinking, the answer is, it's time for both of you to be honest with each other and stop punishing yourself with alcohol.

It might be as you say, both of you are using alcohol to buffer a sinking relationship. Both of you may be afraid to be alone or don't have the strength to be honest with each other. Usually when couples stop talking the problems begin. I think you should open up a dialogue with your wife and talk to her about the underlying problems which are bringing about the drinking.

Right now, the alcohol is having a negative influence on your behavior and ability to reason, so it's important to clean up and get off the booze before you both really start talking. With the volume of wine you are drinking, it will only take about 3 or 4 weeks to get clean and feel great again. Then you both can really start talking.

You will go thru major low blood sugar episodes by stopping drinking. It's not the alcohol you are missing, it's the sugar. You will have to eat better and take walks to fight it. I suggest a slow tapering of the booze, and not going cold turkey. Cold turkey is a shock to your system and is not a good way to quit. A slow downsizing before stopping will work.

If you drink a bottle a day, cut that in half for 10 days. Then reduce to a glass a day... bring your body down slowly off the sugar addiction and supplement with food and walking. Also Vitamin B100 helps. When you are down to a glass a day, stay there for about 5 days. Then stop. Remember, it's the sugar your body is craving and the calories. When you stop drinking, you will feel it. Your body will scream for sugar and it will hurt. But it can be beat. Lots of food, carbs, walking, b100, while tapering off. Get your body off the sugar and onto food.

Take about a month, then you will notice a huge change. A huge rush of energy. Your mind will be clear like it was when you were a kid. You have no idea how easy the human body and mind can repair itself when you feed it right. Then you both can really start talking things out. You may find there really was no problem at all between you both, other than the alcohol that has been slowly depriving you both of life.
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also, stay on top of your eating. NO junk food, lots of whole foods, proteins, carbs, etc... you don't have to be a vegan, but just clean up the food you eat because your body will start to rely on it when you cut off the sugar supply. Eat hearty. You may even gain weight while coming off booze, but that's ok. Your body is adjusting. Then after the storm, you can regulate your eating and stay on better track.

It's not rocket science and you don't need meds or even group therapy. You need to listen to your own inner voice and do the right thing. Before you know it a month will come and go and you'll be a new person.
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We have friends who drink 1-2 bottles of wine per night, to save money they go to a wine maker place and just make their own. A cheap bottle of wine here in Ontario is around $9 CAD, I believe they told me they make 100 bottles at a time and it averages to under $4 CAD per bottle and it is a lot better than the cheapest bottle in the LCBO. Try to find something like that in your local area.
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ah yes, the emotional reaction to the truth.

yadda yadda yadda
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Good. You are in tune with the truth.

A whole lotta yadda yadda
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also, stay on top of your eating.

And mor yadda yadda
You were being trolled, quite successfully I might add

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you can make Kilju and flavor it as you bottle it much stronger than shelf wine. made from sugar, yeast, and water.
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As i know producing wine is not easy at all. You have to put big effort to grow grapes and the main thing us the climate
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Get fucked..
Yes, I am able to get fucked and fuck. But, it's you who can't.

Why?

Because alcoholism causes impotence. I already know you are by looking at your wife's face. She hasn't been fucked properly since you became a lush.

So keep drinking. She'll soon leave you for a guy that can actually fuck.

Then you can really start drinking when she leaves and use that as your new excuse.

You're probably drunk now and don't understand much, so it's my bad for wasting my time writing this.

Good luck with your future cirrhosis of the liver, heart disease, diabetes and depression.

Have another bottle, it's only wine and made of grapes so it can't be all that bad. Right?
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Here's a drunk and look, he does have a hard on! You're wife won't leave you now.


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Ok, so I drink a bottle a night on average and my wife drinks a bottle every couple of nights on average.
So thats's 365 for me and 183 for her which gives 548 bottles.

Now sometimes we have friends over so I guess that could be rounded up to 600 or even 700 bottles of 70cl.

According to this Google Search Google it would take 600 - 800 grapes to make a bottle so lets take an average of 700.

700 grapes * by 650 bottles means I need about 455,000 grapes.

Tesco sell them in punnets for £2 which contain about 45 grapes so based on that I would spend over £20,000. This obviously isn't economically viable.

So how many grapes are on an average grape tree.. Would 455,000 grapes be on a single tree and could I harvest them and save a fortune?
It depends on 3 factors:

1) your local climate
2) the soil you will plant in

3) wasps <----you have to find out the hard way, there is no way to know up-front...if the wasps come you can pretty much forget growing grapes and making wine...oh and if you are in a dry-er climate you can pretty much count on wasps appearing and you forgetting about the grapes

the sound a swarm of wasps makes is pretty cool tho...its like the ground is humming...
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