Aside from brainwashing, there's a psychological reason why people keep voting for the same shit. - GoFuckYourself.com

nico-t · 03-21-2016, 04:46 PM

It just hit me when i wrote a reply in another thread: There is an actual psychological explanation for the completely irrational behavior of humans who keep voting for the same corrupt politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 04:49 PM

Yea it's amazing

How the fuck can anyone vote for ANYONE except Trump? They're all career lying corrupt politicians and then finally one bright spot comes along and the media and establishment lose their shit. Yet people will STILL vote against him

clickity click · 03-21-2016, 04:49 PM

Cliff notes?

ITraffic · 03-21-2016, 05:33 PM

klinton · 03-21-2016, 06:03 PM

target audience= redneck idiots

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Originally Posted by ITraffic

bronco67 · 03-21-2016, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

It just hit me when i wrote a reply in another thread: There is an actual psychological explanation for the completely irrational behavior of humans who keep voting for the same corrupt politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.

We all know what Stockholm Syndrome is ....but congratulations for finally discovering it genius. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, because the relationship between politicians and constituents doesn't constitute Stockholm Sydrome.

So what you're trying to say is that anyone who doesn't like a yellow haired demagogue is sleepwalking? Stop trying to psychoanalyze intelligent people because it doesn't suit you. Stick to the simple things, like picking boogers.

bronco67 · 03-21-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic

Never trust anyone who needs to punctuate every point with "believe me". He must have said that 100 times.

He touts himself as the anti-politician, but he seems to be pretty good at telling people what they want to hear. If it's a room full of rednecks, the line is about "Mexicans taking your jobs and raping your women and killing your children".

If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran. It's all fear based demagoguery and so transparent.

He's such a fucking duplicitous con man. YOU are the suckers...not everyone else.

klinton · 03-21-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Never trust anyone who needs to punctuate every point with "believe me". He must have said that 100 times.

He touts himself as the anti-politician, but he seems to be pretty good at telling people what they want to hear. If it's a room full of rednecks, the line is about "Mexicans taking your jobs and raping your women and killing your children".

If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran. It's all fear based demagoguery and so transparent.

He's such a fucking duplicitous con man. YOU are the suckers...not everyone else.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:11 PM

Trump is the only choice in 2016

L-Pink · 03-21-2016, 07:24 PM

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:29 PM

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How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

It's unbelievable aint it? People sit here and bitch and moan about lies about Trump...but SOMEONE has to win the Presidency

bronco67 · 03-21-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.

Her and her husband are as corrupt as they get

Trump is a successful businessman and not a career politician

L-Pink · 03-21-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

She's not a good choice either...but at least she's not a fucking ass clown like Donald Trump.

I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

All the heat that Trump is getting SHOULD be getting put on Hillary...look at how corrupt that bitch is! Imagine if Trump had done 1/10th of what she's done!?

bronco67 · 03-21-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

ErectMedia · 03-21-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

I dug Ross Perot and Ron Paul other than them 2 not many others.
Can't stand Hillary but think Vaginas will vote for her cause she has a Vagina as well.
Trump 2016

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

Kasich is a fucking loser

Trump IS the revolution

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 03-21-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm always amazed at the poor choices we have for the most important job in the US. I have never voted for anyone, just against someone. That's why I'm in favor of Trump. Hillary can't become our next president. Just can't.

It just makes you not want to vote right? That's how feel. Fuck it. You all suck.

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 03-21-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

I dug Ross Perot and Ron Paul other than them 2 not many others.
Can't stand Hillary but think Vaginas will vote for her cause she has a Vagina as well.
Trump 2016

Please give us cunts a little more credit. I really don't dig Hillary.

PirrTaste · 03-21-2016, 08:35 PM

All of the candidates are terrible.

ITraffic · 03-21-2016, 08:35 PM

#CRUZ2016

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PirrTaste

All of the candidates are terrible.

Except for Trump

mineistaken · 03-22-2016, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

If it's a room full of Jews, then it's about the evil Iran

Actually it is Hilary and other politicians who speaks solely on the target group.
Trump does the least of that, obviously if the room is Jewish you need to talk more about Jew problems, but that is nothing compared to how targeted Clinton and other switch their subjects. And not only switch subjects, but also contradict themselves based on what kind of room they are speaking to.

crockett · 03-22-2016, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

Why do you always assume that because someone calls out your guy that they automatically support the other. Trump is a liar and a disaster waiting to happen. Hillary is a lying cunt.. What's worse a liar or a disaster and liar?

klinton · 03-22-2016, 01:20 AM

you overrate Trump.
he just plays game of being "new and charismatic and the change that people need",,,, just like Obama did

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Originally Posted by crockett

Why do you always assume that because someone calls out your guy that they automatically support the other. Trump is a liar and a disaster waiting to happen. Hillary is a lying cunt.. What's worse a liar or a disaster and liar?

GregE · 03-22-2016, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

I don't get it either.

She's just itching to get us ass deep in yet another Mideast war

Hillary Clinton Lays Out Her Own Middle East Approach ? And It?s Not Obama?s

nico-t · 03-22-2016, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

There's absolutely nobody I like this cycle. I like John Kasich, the man -- but ultimately he has too many conservative views. Some moderate (which is fine), but some are in line with the other nutbags.

I like where Bernie Sanders is coming from. He knows the game, and also knows that shit is fucked and needs change from the ground up. But he's too far to the left.

Donald Trump is not the answer for the revolution that everyone wants.

Hillary knows her way around the block so she seems like the best choice out of many bad choices. Speaking of brainwashing...Hillary is far from clean but she's made out to be the devil or something.

your reasoning is completely false as well as naive.

It doesn't matter what the views are of the puppets. They say it for votes, not to actually get to work with it once they are president. Been like this as long as i can remember. Choosing someone who is something different than these same puppets, to me, is as logical as you can get. Fuck their views.

Choosing Hillary over Trump is choosing 4 more years of the same agenda of Bush, Obama, etc. And these 2 were from two different parties yet during their run they have had exactly, 1 on 1, the same agenda when it comes to important global issues. That would tell the people enough that these political figures are all the same, yet these idiots vote on the same type of person each 4 years. Hence the Stockholm Syndrome: The irrational voters supporting these corrupticians keep digging their own graves.

klinton · 03-22-2016, 02:34 AM

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The irrational voters supporting these corrupticians keep digging their own graves.

ITraffic · 03-22-2016, 09:45 AM

#nukeiran #nukeisis #nukepalestine #trump2016

VikingMan · 03-22-2016, 09:55 AM

The vast majority of humans are followers and if a message or messages are repeated over and and over then most of the people just blindly believe it. Adding to the problem are all the modern technologies like TV and internet so these messages are beamed at a greater frequency and can be normalized over a large population. And of course we live in a consumer culture with tons of distractions like movies, sports, etc.

The average modern person is in complete denial and only cares about their own comfort. They do not want to hear the truth and are attracted to candidates who make them feel that everything is going to be ok.

It has been said that a small dedicated group of people can change the world and that is certainly what has happened. If you have a crowd of 10,000 people I promise you that a smaller group of 50 people could just begin to completely control the crowd if they at as a united front.

PR_Glen · 03-22-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

at this point? lack of reasonable option. I don't think any of the candidates sound even close to that at this point. Either too radical or too much of the same.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

at this point? lack of reasonable option. I don't think any of the candidates sound even close to that at this point. Either too radical or too much of the same.

Hillary is a corrupt career politician
Cruz is a snake and career politician

Trump is a successful billionaire businessman. How can you even compare Trump to the others?!

pimpmaster9000 · 03-22-2016, 10:23 AM

yacht races and elections are pretty much the same thing, a money race...it has nothing to do with the poor, and the only victors can only be money...

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

How can anyone be in favor of Hillary becoming president?

Real men want pussy for president

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

yacht races and elections are pretty much the same thing, a money race...it has nothing to do with the poor, and the only victors can only be money...

And Trump is the only one not taking money from lobbyists and special interests...

crockett · 03-22-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

you overrate Trump.
he just plays game of being "new and charismatic and the change that people need",,,, just like Obama did

Sorry I look at reality. Trump has shown himself to be a liar and he's done nothing at all to.show he will be nothing more than a disaster for this county.

Look I can understand him playing the cards to get his fan base in place. Act a little different or out there to gather a following and to get airtime..

However eventually you have to get serious and not be the nutjob.. It's long past time he needed to be serious and not be a nutjob.. which means he isn't pretending, he really us a nutjob and a disaster waiting to happen..

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Hillary is a corrupt career politician
Trump is a corrupt businessman
Cruz is a snake and career politician

Agreed

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Sorry I look at reality. Trump has shown himself to be a liar and he's done nothing at all to.show he will be nothing more than a disaster for this county.

Look I can understand him playing the cards to get his fan base in place. Act a little different or out there to gather a following and to get airtime..

However eventually you have to get serious and not be the nutjob.. It's long past time he needed to be serious and not be a nutjob.. which means he isn't pretending, he really us a nutjob and a disaster waiting to happen..

What has he lied about?

The guy isn't taking special interest or lobbyist money...how is he a disaster for this country? He's a disaster for the establishment, who runs the country

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What has he lied about?

The guy isn't taking special interest or lobbyist money...how is he a disaster for this country? He's a disaster for the establishment, who runs the country

You're saying Donald Trump doesn't lie?

You're saying Donald Trump hasn't lost lawsuits because he did something illegal?

You're sayinng Donald Trump hasn't taken special intetest money and hasn't met with special interest representatives yesterday in Washington DC?

pimpmaster9000 · 03-22-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

And Trump is the only one not taking money from lobbyists and special interests...

so big money has a new candidate in the yach race...what do the elections and yacht races have to do with the poor again?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

so big money has a new candidate in the yach race...what do the elections and yacht races have to do with the poor again?

But he isn't taking money from special interests...

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 11:11 AM

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But he isn't taking money from special interests...

You're a useless parrot. You don't even backup what you say with facts. A complete waste of time.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're a useless parrot. You don't even backup what you say with facts. A complete waste of time.

Look at how much Jeb and Hillar raised...and Cruz and Rubio

Trump is self funded

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Trump is self funded

Trump is not self funded.

Go to any campaign tracking site like Politico, realclearpolitics, thirtyfiveeight, etc. and post here how much money Trump has received.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump is not self funded.

Go to any campaign tracking site like Politico, realclearpolitics, thirtyfiveeight, etc. and post here how much money Trump has received.

He has received small donations from his fans. It was getting too burdensome to send back so he set up a donate button. Getting $10 from someone is a little different than getting $50 million from goldman sachs

ITraffic · 03-22-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

But he isn't taking money from special interests...

yes it seems he will do the bidding of aipac for free.

pimpmaster9000 · 03-22-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

But he isn't taking money from special interests...

I never said he was taking money did I?

I said that big money and interests have a new yacht in the race, yacht races are nothing for the poor...like politics...blue blood only, no common blood allowed...

now you will say

"but he isnt taking money"

I will reply

"he has his own, its just another yacht in the race, and it does not belong to YOU"

yacht races & politics, not for the poor<----this

Bladewire · 03-22-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

He has received small donations from his fans. It was getting too burdensome to send back so he set up a donate button.

37% of his funding is LOANS from himself to his campaign.

63% of his funding is from donations & special interest money.

He's NOT self funded.

Educate yourself and stop lying to people here its not cool.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-22-2016, 11:59 AM

He IS self funding you fucking idiot. What is he supposed to do when millions of people want to send him $5 and $10?? He is accepting small donations NOT from lobbyists and special interests you utter moron!

03-21-2016, 04:46 PM	#1
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	Aside from brainwashing, there's a psychological reason why people keep voting for the same shit. It just hit me when i wrote a reply in another thread: There is an actual psychological explanation for the completely irrational behavior of humans who keep voting for the same corrupt politicians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."[4] One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be perceived as a threat.

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	yacht races and elections are pretty much the same thing, a money race...it has nothing to do with the poor, and the only victors can only be money... __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	Yea it's amazing How the fuck can anyone vote for ANYONE except Trump? They're all career lying corrupt politicians and then finally one bright spot comes along and the media and establishment lose their shit. Yet people will STILL vote against him

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VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,497	The vast majority of humans are followers and if a message or messages are repeated over and and over then most of the people just blindly believe it. Adding to the problem are all the modern technologies like TV and internet so these messages are beamed at a greater frequency and can be normalized over a large population. And of course we live in a consumer culture with tons of distractions like movies, sports, etc. The average modern person is in complete denial and only cares about their own comfort. They do not want to hear the truth and are attracted to candidates who make them feel that everything is going to be ok. It has been said that a small dedicated group of people can change the world and that is certainly what has happened. If you have a crowd of 10,000 people I promise you that a smaller group of 50 people could just begin to completely control the crowd if they at as a united front.

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	He IS self funding you fucking idiot. What is he supposed to do when millions of people want to send him $5 and $10?? He is accepting small donations NOT from lobbyists and special interests you utter moron!