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bronco67

"oh my god!!!She said it was a video!!! Hang her!!"

You know...she didn't plan and carry out the terrorist attack. Just to put things in perspective for you.

It seems like perspective is not a strong suit of conservatives -- which is what you are with every cell in your body.

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Robbie

Sure I am. lol
It's amazing that you are so callous and so insensitive. You fit right in with being a FAKE liberal "with every cell of your body".

She KNEW it was a terrorist attack. She wrote an email to Chelsea the night of the attack and told her it was a terrorist attack. And yes...that was from one of the emails the FBI had to use forensics on to get off of her server (because after they got a court order...because she refused to give it to them voluntarily...she then wiped it clean)

She and President Obama then proceeded to go on television news shows, AND Obama even went on the Letterman show, to repeat that lie to the American people for the next few weeks.

It's disgusting.

What if that had been YOUR wife, YOUR father, YOUR brother who died in that attack? And you are being lied to your face by Hillary Clinton at the casket ceremony?

Would you still be such a smug and insensitive asshole then?

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Rochard

I don't understand why Benghazi is even being discussed.

Either they weren't exactly sure what happened, or tried to downplay the terrorist attack. End of story.

My father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old in a war that was nothing but one lie compounded by dozens of lies for years.

Someone felt like they were lied to? Because our government thought a video spawned a protest that lead to a terrorist attack? Because we might not have had our facts right a week or two weeks after the attack? Because, you now, Libya had a perfectly functioning government and law enforcement, and we were able to quickly secure the crime scene and conduct an investigation, RIGHT? Two weeks after the investigation we still had no clue of what happened.

Why are we investigating Benghazi more than 9/11?

LOL.

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Robbie

You are 100% right about Vietnam. And I'm sorry about your dad.

On that second paragraph I quoted you on...did you not understand what REALLY happened after Benghazi?
The govt. didn't "think" a video caused it. They KNEW what had happened.
That email from Hillary to Chelsea the very night of the attack even said that the FACT that it was a terrorist attack was problematic because they were only 56 days away from the election between Romney and Obama.

Which makes it clear that their decision to lie and say it was a "video" was based on not giving Romney any ammunition in the campaign against Obama (Obama had announced a few months earlier that Al Queda was pretty much finished...and then the attack was an Al Queda group which would have made him look bad).

AGAIN...what if that had been YOUR wife or son or daughter. And you had Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton at a casket ceremony handing YOU the flag and then lying to your face about what really happened???

Would you be so quick to justify that lying woman under those circumstances?

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bronco67

Ok so let's say they knew it was terrorist attack -- which they probably didn't at first.

What would you like to happen? Do you want Hillary to go back in time and stop it?

Should Bush/cheney face any consequences for knowingly plunging us into an unnecessary war and losing the lives, limbs and sanity of thousands of young soldiers? I can see why 4 Americans dying on foreign soil seems like a huge deal for you when there's a democratic administration in charge, but why am I insensitive? What Hillary Clinton did wrong (if anything) is NOTHING compared to Iraq, or even the other thirteen or so embassy attacks that happened under Bush's watch.

Like I said, put things in perspective. You seem to lack that ability.

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dyna mo

It's completely impossible to point counterpoint this topic when people bring up bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, etc.

None of them have jack shit to do with the topic.

Try that excuse in traffic court, "your honor, another guy ran that stoplight like 20 years ago and the cops didn't ticket him, therefore I am not guilty."

Rochard

Was there a video released the day before? Yes. Was there a security thread issued to the embassies? Yes. Was there a protest? Yes. Was there a terrorist attack? Yes.

When the attack initially occurred they had limited, partial information. All they knew was a video was released, a warning was issued to embassies, and an attack occurred. That was the information they decided to release. Seems to me everything Hillary Clinton told us.... Was in fact completely true.

Our government cannot always come forth with all of the facts the moment they know them. During a terrorist attack or a military operation, they routinely withhold information. It's really no different than a police investigation; They tell us as little as they can until they know the full story. And what little they told us seems to be completely true.

MEANWHILE.... The Bush Administration hid forty pages of the 9/11 report that most likely directly implicated Saudi Arabia and their involvement in it, yet you are focused on something that is minor and insignificant.

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bronco67

There's a huge difference between knowingly mischaracterizing an event where four people died vs fabricating a reason to go into a full scale war that killed thousands of Amercians (and Iraqis). One is of a much greater magnitude than the other. Much, much greater. So I can bring it up when you whiners cry about Hilary's evil behavior.

Democrats didn't pursue Bush to the ends of the earth, but then again he wasn't a presidential candidate.

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Horatio Caine

Bush wasn't speeding. He had fatal hit and run in school zone. Entirely different court.
Oh my God, oh my God, Hillary said its was angry mob attack, not terrorist attack. Now Trump is going to uncover the truth the way he did with Obama's birth certificate.
Trump cronies are so funny

bronco67

Islamic State bombs kill 80 in deadliest Baghdad attacks this year

This is the just the tip of the iceberg in the reality Bush/Cheney created, and it will be for years, and maybe decades.

So as you put it in the thread title...what's the big deal about Benghazi?

The bombing and deaths of 80 people in that story I posted is a bigger deal than Benghazi. 80 people lost their lives. They'd be alive is not for the fault of "guess who". The team who started a cascade of events that has brought us ISIS, the cancer of the world. Their fuckup has reshaped the world as we know it and our children will be experiencing it after we're gone.

You may as well start accepting Hillary will be your president. All the wishing in the world is not going to put her in jail for misrepresenting Benghazi or sending emails.

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sicone

So the big deal about all this is over her telling her daughter it was terrorism while all of the White House was not calling it terrorism in public for a short time? Who here has never downplayed something to people outside their home/family?

Is that really a big deal or just something for useless politicians to whine and bitch about as they waste time on multiple investigations and committees. How many millions of tax payer money has been wasted by these 'investigations'?

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Robbie

I wasn't talking about investigations.

I simply showed a video of the families distraught over being lied to about their loved ones deaths by Obama and Clinton just so he could win the election.

And if it's okay to lie and cover up shit with lies...then why the hell did Nixon step down over covering up Watergate?

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dyna mo

i'm not whining about jack shit. I'm pointing out how exactly NONE of you would teach your children it's OK to do something if someone got away with it before.

Robbie

@SuckOnThis: Cute pics.

Why don't you go in person to those families and smugly show them those pictures and laugh in their faces?

Wow...some of you fake liberals are just unbelieveable.

Public officials lying to the people they are supposed to SERVE is just fine! (as long as they have a "D" for democrat in front of their names)

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dyna mo

none of this has anything to do with my post you quoted. now it's trump has something to do with the topic, so hey, get it out of your system.

ilnjscb

That was a really stupid decision, if that was what happened. Every president seems to want to manage facts around war, rather than be honest. Some more than others. Iraq cost 2 trillion and thousands of lives to usher in ISIS. We all know Saddam didn't have WOMD. "Islam is great" is another lie. If they were christian fundamentalists chopping heads I'd say the same thing. No militant religion is good, period.

If what you say above did happen, what should Clinton have done? Should she have gone public and exposed the administration's lies, and resigned?

dyna mo

it's well-documented. hillary should have been doing her job, not politicking.

Robbie

That's what you or I would have done. But a politician?
Lying is second nature to them.

We shouldn't be rewarding these people by voting for them for damn sure. They should be held accountable to the voters.

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sicone

Perhaps someone should. Why is there no anger over all that wasted time and money that could have been focused elsewhere?

They lost loved ones, of course they are distraught. But being mad at some words that happened after the event rather than at the event and/or the things leading to the event is misplaced anger and will not help prevent events like this from happening again

Not sure where I said it's OK to lie and cover shit up. Please don't try and misquote me or change my words to fit your agenda. That's a childish move.

As for Nixon, I wasn't even alive then, but it's my understanding that he, his administration and election committees broke actual on the book laws and violated constitutional rights.

Please point out the law (other than when under oath in court) that says telling a lie is a violation and punishable. Also, what constitutional right guarantees that no one in this country will lie or fall victim to a lie.

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SuckOnThis

Oh puhlease.

Why arent you placing the blame where it belongs instead of making something after the fact an issue? Oh, cause Repubs are really the ones to blame.

Wow....some of you fake conservatives are just unbelievable.


Benghazi attack followed deep cuts in State Department security budget

Not Hillary. Benghazi was GOP's fault.

sicone

I agree on this 100%. But man, if we dropped all the people in DC who lied, the town would be empty.

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Robbie

1. This isn't about you. And I never said "you said" shit. I said what I said because that seems to be the fucking attitude that some people are showing to it.

2. NO. Nixon didn't do anything. His underlings found out that some of Nixon's campaign operatives hired G Gordon Libby and some other burglars to break in to a Watergate Hotel room where the DNC had headquarters to steal campaign secrets.

And when the burglary was discovered, they covered it up with...LIES.
The entire Watergate scandal was about the COVER UP and lying.
The same exact thing that went on with Benghazi.

The Democrat Congress (and of course the media) went to work on Nixon. The media especially hated him because HE hated them and they both were at odds constantly.

Ironically...young Hillary was a member of the Presidential Impeachment committee of Watergate, but was "let go" by her boss.

Nixon, by the way, was never impeached. He probably would have been, but decided it would harm the office of the Presidency.

Only two Presidents have ever actually been impeached: President Andrew Johnson and...President Bill Clinton. Both impeachments by the House were overturned by the Senate.

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bronco67

You act like you care so much about those families. You don't give two shits...you just love to suck on Donald Trump's nuts and Hillary is in his way to becoming president. That bothers you more than any fake outrage you portray.

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oh you wanna put things in perspective, by blaming bush/cheney for starting it?

who really "started" it? did the USA get attacked on 911, un provoked, & hand a green card to bush to finish daddys war? did bush attack the twin towers?

& who was responsible for daddys war? saddam hussein, when he invaded kuwait in 1990? was he to blame? or did HW bush needlessly invade kuwait?

& who is to blame when syrias war started, & someone set red lines, & did nothing, & let a bunch of dead enders turn into a quasi state? wasnt bush long gone in 2011?

note the answers to my 3 question have muslim names. so fuck you clown with your retard perspective. its that easy to rip you up, fuckface.

Horatio Caine

None of the things in this topic has anything to do with what you posted. This is about orange headed ass clown attacking another presidential nominee with nonsense. In case you missed it, he has "Hillary the cheater enabler" videos where he blames Bill's infidelity on her Yep, same clown with eastern European anchor wife, THE #3 wife, who's old enough to be his daughter. Well known womanizer and probably big time cheater
Thats like listening to brassmonkey's commencement speech to MIT grads or Robby teaching Sunday class on Family Values at Mormon church. Nigga, please. Get me some xxxjay's tutorials on straight edge lifestyle and sobriety while you at it

sicone

Actually it IS about me, and you as well. As a citizen of the United States, every action or lack of action by our government has an affect on all of us, either directly or indirectly,


Thank you for the history lesson and thank you also for using this as a example. Shame you are too blinded by your own hype that my point flew over your head even as you typed it out for me.

The Watergate scandal was about the lies and cover ups of CRIMES committed by Nixon's staff. The cover up of a criminal act(s) is a crime itself. Can you tell me what law(s) the events in Benghazi broke and how Clinton was the one behind these broken laws if they exist?

I again ask you to show me which law or constitutional rights were violated by not immediately calling these events a act of terrorism?

Now, if you want to make it a discussion of morals instead of unlawful criminal acts, that's fine. However, I think we would actually agree on most things on that discussion.

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Rochard

They just lost family members, they are going to be distraught no matter what. This didn't cause anyone to win or loose an election.

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Rochard

It's always classy when you call people "fuckface".

Our relationship with the Middle East was difficult enough, but having Bush run wild through Iraq and completely destabilizing the entire region ended up with... Where we are now, including 9/11 and now ISIS.

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crockett

Here we go again.... Benghazi, Benghazi Benghazi..


I bet Robbie can't name with out cheating a single one of the embassies that were attacked under the Bush admin..

directfiesta

yep ...

dyna mo

Good points!

Robbie

I don't have to "give two shits" about those families to be able to say that Hillary Clinton lying to their faces...and KNOWING it was a lie, is WRONG.

The real question is: Why don't you? What is wrong with you as a human being?

I'll ask again...if it was YOUR wife, YOUR brother, YOUR father who got killed and you found out that she sat there and lied to your face over the death of your loved one just for political expediency...would you still think it's just fine?

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Vendzilla

People say well such and such did it in the past!

Does that make it right? NO

Why is Benghazi important?
In the history of the US, only 7 US ambassadors have been killed in the line of duty
Christopher Stevens died in Benghazi, first Ambassador to die in the line of duty since 1979

2 Ambassadors died in Planes crashes in 1950 and 1988 for a total of 7

So what I'm saying is the death of an ambassador is rare and shouldn't be lied about just because it's an election year.

I'm still waiting to see pictures of Osama Bin Ladin dead !

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TampaToker

Ignore him he is a idiot. The whole party has become this way now. Law and morale judgement only apply to them when they are the victim. The man reason i switched to independent this year. You got it idiots like him in both party's lol fucking government playing these guys like a fiddle. Suck to be a sucker but hell there sure is a shit load of them

Now both party's will cry when Trump wins potus lol This will fall on both party's voters. This is what happens when you have uneducated voters and they pick and choose there political team like sports teams.

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Rochard

No one lied about anything.

Clinton told us what the government thought at the time, and withheld information until we had more facts. And what she told us is still true - there was a video, a warning was issued, and there was a protest. Everything Clinton said was in fact true. However, as more information came in, they withheld information while everything was figured out AND it was decided what information to release to the public.

Again, not sure why this is an issue. For some reason we are putting in more time, effort, and money into investigating a small terrorist attack on an embassy in a foreign country than we did investing 9/11 which resulted in billions of dollars in damage and thousands of Americans dead.

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Rochard

You keep going back to this and the correct answer is... Everyone went into this knowing it was dangerous. They knew their lives would be in danger. Their families knew it too.

Clinton didn't lie to anyone. Everything she told us was in fact true. However, the government doesn't always tell us the full truth when the CIA is involved.

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bronco67

and if Donald Trump called your wife or daughter "a disgusting pig" or whatever terms he uses for women, would you say "oh well, he just says what's on his mind." ???

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Mr Pheer

Rochard shouldnt you be working instead of posting here all day?

You do still have your job, right?

Just Alex

How many Americans would be able to find Benghazi on the map without asking google for help?

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Robbie

What does Donald Trump have to do with this?

And why can't you answer the questions:
Why don't you find what Hillary did to be wrong?

And how would you feel if it was your family member who was killed and your govt. representative KNEW what happened...and lied to your face at the casket ceremony?

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Robbie

BULLSHIT! She lied to their faces man! Watch the video.

She told them it was caused by a fucking Youtube video and NOT a planned terrorist attack even though she KNEW that wasn't true.

Wow man. I don't know what is wrong with you. It's disgusting.

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Rochard

Again... There was a video, there was a warning issued to the embassies in the area, there was a protest, and then there was a terrorist attack. Based on the information they had then, everything Clinton said was in fact true. It is still true today.

Was the protest planned? Yes. Was the terrorist attack planned? Yes. Did the protest encourage the attack? Yes. Did people form the protest join the terrorist attack? Yes.

This started with a protest because of a video that was released? What did she lie about?

Let's just investigate this some more.

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Robbie

NO! They have all admitted since then that it was NEVER about a video.

Jesus Rochard. Why do you INSIST on posting when you don't know what you are talking about?

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SuckOnThis

Why arent conservatives whining about CNN first reporting that it was a Cessna that crashed into the WTC on the morning of 9/11? Don't they care about the 3000 lives that were lost on that day?

Robbie

Wow...they really reported that? I wonder if it was because they were freaked out and in a hurry to get the story on air before they had a chance to figure out what happened?

And why would "conservatives" be "whining" about a story from 9-11???

I don't get any of this divisiveness...you don't have to be a "conservative" or a "liberal" to say that a politician lying to people is wrong.

WTF?

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MaDalton

Basic line - from a foreigners pov:

GOP goes nuts over irrelevant bullshit while being responsible for thousands of dead Americans in an illegal war.

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ilnjscb

I wish I could say for sure I'd do it. Dude powerful people are SO powerful. That sounds simplistic but it is seductive the power they have. They say a word, and thousands of wheels move. They get their asses kissed morning noon and night. The minor irritations we have they have very smart people to solve.

I've never been anywhere close to that powerful, but I've met people that are, including Bush jr. and both Bill and Hillary Clinton. They honestly think of us as chess pieces I think, to look in their eyes; you just try to pick the one that won't do a lot of damage or even might do some good.

I've said before Bill Clinton can fuck a thousand fat whores, people were happy. I care if Hillary Clinton lied, and Obama lied, and perhaps Benghazi happened as you say it did. But I hear a lot of people saying it didn't as well. And perhaps the ass she was covering was Obama's, not hers.

Robbie man If I had a wish, I'd bring this whole thing down and we'd all be hunter-gatherers. But that won't happen, because .1 percent of the population needs their asses licked and they'll kill, torture, and destroy to get that. And a stupid 5% of the population will enforce their will.

All this aside, ask yourself, what will this person do when they get in office? How will they govern? What will the effect of their presidency be? I think that matters as much or more.

Robbie

I think if Hillary wins...it will be more of the same thing we've had for decades now. The political ruling class will enrich themselves at the expense of you and me.

I have often wondered how we could run up this much debt in our country and it be at an "acceptable" level and actually lower level to GFP than during WW2.

Then I saw an economist on CNN explaining it. Basically, the Federal Reserve has printed so much money that it makes our money not worth much.
So it devalues the debt.

If Hillary is elected...I believe she will keep on kicking that can down the road and run the debt higher and higher while the Fed prints more money and makes every dollar worth less.

It's been going on for many years now.

How much longer can it go on? I don't know. But I do believe that within my lifetime that debt is going to bite the United States in the ass and everything is going to be fucked.

If Trump is elected...who the fuck knows?

In my opinion "who the fuck knows" is MUCH better than the continuing abject failure of the Federal Govt. and the lifetime/career politicians fucking all of us over.

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