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Old 05-25-2016, 07:29 PM   #51
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Why do you hate America?
Why do you mock what you don't understand?
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:29 PM   #52
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Amazing all these wars were started by conservative Republicans and somehow lost by liberals...

Republicans as usual dindu nuffin..
dont let actual history, like afghanistan being started when clinton dindo'd on osama, get in the way of a good anti-GOP yarn.

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....by virtue that the two republicans never got investigated by the FBI.
You mean they haven't been investigated by the FBI "yet".

In the event they find Hillary remotely guilty of anything, wouldn't they be required by law to investigate to see if any other crimes have been committed? If Hillary broke the law by using a personal email server, doesn't that mean that Rice and Powell also broke the law?

You don't think the entire Democratic party would insist the FBI investigate further if Hillary is found guilty of anything?

I'm playing with you or trolling. If we can spend tens of millions of dollars investigating Benghazi, why can't we invest some time and effort into investigating the State Department? We shouldn't be investigating one person, we should be investigating the entire department. They have one hundred and twenty FBI agents investigating this; Surely they can spare some more agents to look further so we can ensue a bi-partisan investigation, right?
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Sure, investigate them too. That still has absolutely zero to do with Hillary. Its like saying if you ran a red light then the guy who ran the red light before you should get a ticket too. Yes. So what. That has nothing to do with you running the light.
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Why do you hate America? You are the only self proclaimed liberal on this board and you claim liberals hate America.. Why do you hate America?
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dont let actual history, like afghanistan being started when clinton dindo'd on osama, get in the way of a good anti-GOP yarn.

How much meth do you smoke on a daily basis?
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Why do you hate America? You are the only self proclaimed liberal on this board and you claim liberals hate America.. Why do you hate America?
No, the thread is obviously about fake liberals. Im tired of having to explain and reexplain the subtleties and nuances of reality again and again around here, so I didn't bother. You just proved why it would have been a waste of a post yet again.
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No, the thread is obviously about fake liberals. Im tired of having to explain and reexplain the subtleties and nuances of reality again and again around here, so I didn't bother. You just proved why it would have been a waste of a post yet again.
So you have no idea why you hate America, you just hate it?
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if all the Americans decided to split the country in two and give the shitty liberals which ever half they wanted they would be trying to immigrate to the the right wing side as soon as they realized nobody on their side would want to work
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if all the Americans decided to split the country in two and give the shitty liberals which ever half they wanted they would be trying to immigrate to the the right wing side as soon as they realized nobody on their side would want to work
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Why do you mock what you don't understand?
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lets see, to be left wing today...

you excuse the criminals, hate the cops. black lives matter!

you believe people that earn wealth stole it, or inherited it, or otherwise did nothing to actually make it. & that wealth should be taxed, 90%. so liberals can xfer it to their taker friends.

you believe that there is no difference between an immigrant & an illegal alien. there is no "american" at all, just ethnic groups, first, americans second. there should be nothing at the border from restraining democrats friends, the criminals, from walking into our country. left wingers are even fighting to give them the right to vote. its true.

& worst, if you offend someone PC, you are a bigot, sexist racist homophobe hitler. Even complimenting a woman can get you publicly shamed. you violated a safe space, might get kicked out of college, or fired from facebook. all for "offending" someone.

crockett, bronco67, suckonthis, get the fuck out of my country.

None of what you hate are "Left Wing". They're best describe as Middle Class.
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this forum is my only outlet to vent frustration with the fog of the liberal media. i mean, a possible felon is running, & winning, her primary race.

its grotesque whats happened to this country with liberalism. our military cant beat ISIS, for crying out loud. & its the reason a reckless wingnut named trump is going to be the next president of the united states of america.

Instead of a convicted felon and has won his primary race.
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do you really think if trump wins anything will actually change? despite who the president is, its always the same group of interests running the show.
He does think it will change. Even after the most radical President ever was blocked at every turn. Trump = 4 years of nothing changing.

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yes. he will turn around, 180 degrees, federal policy on illegal immigrants. He will also retaliate against nations that manipulate their trade to our expense. &, aligned with a friendly congress, i think the endless budget deficits will stop.

the budget needs a businessman to fix the books. the politicians wont do it.
Do you know the extent of job losses that will be created by a balanced budget?
What happens if China decides to stop buying US Bonds or decides to start invading territories they claim are there's?

The political process has been controlled by businessmen for decades. Follow the money.

And there's the problem. The US has been run for the benefit of the people who fund/bribe the politicians. There's absolutely no benefit in buying all the cheap goods a Third World Nation can produce and building it into a First World Economy with an Armed Forces large enough to start WW3. So why was it done?

Look who makes the profits from moving jobs to the East. The problem now is getting those jobs back, slowing down the imports, when the Nation you're going to anger holds more cards than you would like. Trump will lose that battle. Mostly because voters won't pay $1,000 for an iPhone or $300 for a keyboard or $5,000 for a laptop of the basic level. (The prices are to indicate the difference in prices and not accurate.)

Open the bonnet of an American made car and see all the cheap Third World parts that are keeping the price down. Ask people who were around when everything was produced in the US. Life was far simpler because everything was far more expensive.

And this was created by the Right Wing and businessmen.
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this is true, if you consider our cops to be on par with the british empire bullying the colonies. is that how you see the cops? our cops are not KKK, OK?

A big reason US cops are so violent is they have a lot of very violent people to deal with. They work in fear that anyone will have a real gun and use it, the Western Culture of solving problems with a gun, the ease of which anyone can get a gun. Obviously, criminals can get a gun. They work in a country where a young child can get a gun and kill people.
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Three things threaten the lifestyle of the West.

1. Imports. Our wealth was built by manufacturing and exporting. Or conquering and exploiting with the profits coming back to the West. No guilt should be attached to either it's been the way to get ahead since Man walked out of Africa.

Back then all the money made was spent in the West, there was little point in the money going back. Today the Wealth is flowing out of the West into the Third World. It's a steady flow with no signs of stopping.

2. Migration. During the last 70 years the West has allowed millions to migrate in. After WW2 there was a need for more men to do jobs that were once done by men who had fallen in 2 World Wars. After 1965 there was no excuse for mass migration. But it has picked up speed. In the UK 12% of the population are foreign-born, add Second Generation and the pressure is enormous. Add Jobs flowing East and the inevitable is Revolution.

3. Population Explosion. With jobs flowing East, disappearing due to automation and becoming more high skilled. Rising population numbers, produces more unemployed, lower wages, more needs for benefits and a lower standard of living. Leading to higher crime rates.

And who is benefitting the most from this? Examine the Wealth gap between the very rich and the rest. Over the last 60 years.

This indicates clearly the intentions of the Right unless the very Rich are all Socialists. All the above factors have made the 1% very, rich, the 0.5% extremely rich. While fooling the rest with cheap consumer goods.

Businessmen could stop mass migration today, by not employing illegals or migrants. They don't. They give jobs to those who will work for lowest wages. Amassing huge fortunes that they minimise their taxes on.

Google are a prime example. They expect to sell their services World Wide. Most importantly in the US and the EU to the citizens. They don't expect to pay the taxes those people pay. Contribute towards the Public Services, help Government balance their budgets, fund schools, hospitals, justice, etc. They want to get all the sales, skilled workers, without funding what has made them rich. They should be told pay our taxes or don't sell to us.

As I said look at the figures long term and see where it's going. Anyone that thinks our lives are shaped by the Left has been brainwashed. And I suspect the OP is one of the bottom 40% who thinks the 1% are going to let him climb the ladder to join them.

More evidence of brainwashing.
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2. Migration. During the last 70 years the West has allowed millions to migrate in. After WW2 there was a need for more men to do jobs that were once done by men who had fallen in 2 World Wars. After 1965 there was no excuse for mass migration. But it has picked up speed. In the UK 12% of the population are foreign-born, add Second Generation and the pressure is enormous. Add Jobs flowing East and the inevitable is Revolution.
i thought a huge part of the migration is to help pay for the Ponzi scheme that pensions / retirement produce with population differences between generations?

not many people really caught on to it during the canadian/syrian refugee thing..but they were actually using the argument as way to justify the expenditures.

i mean, how can we say we're helping people, if we're banking on their tax dollars paying us back 10 fold?
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A big reason US cops are so violent is they have a lot of very violent people to deal with. They work in fear that anyone will have a real gun and use it, the Western Culture of solving problems with a gun, the ease of which anyone can get a gun. Obviously, criminals can get a gun. They work in a country where a young child can get a gun and kill people.



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lets see, to be left wing today...

you excuse the criminals, hate the cops. black lives matter!

you believe people that earn wealth stole it, or inherited it, or otherwise did nothing to actually make it. & that wealth should be taxed, 90%. so liberals can xfer it to their taker friends.

you believe that there is no difference between an immigrant & an illegal alien. there is no "american" at all, just ethnic groups, first, americans second. there should be nothing at the border from restraining democrats friends, the criminals, from walking into our country. left wingers are even fighting to give them the right to vote. its true.

& worst, if you offend someone PC, you are a bigot, sexist racist homophobe hitler. Even complimenting a woman can get you publicly shamed. you violated a safe space, might get kicked out of college, or fired from facebook. all for "offending" someone.

crockett, bronco67, suckonthis, get the fuck out of my country.

You're a fucking idiot. Make note of the use of the word "you're".
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I can't find anywhere in the WHOLE thread where OP asked for Your opinion? ...Are you one of those Transgender Authoritay?

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i thought a huge part of the migration is to help pay for the Ponzi scheme that pensions / retirement produce with population differences between generations?

not many people really caught on to it during the canadian/syrian refugee thing..but they were actually using the argument as way to justify the expenditures.

i mean, how can we say we're helping people, if we're banking on their tax dollars paying us back 10 fold?


If Migrants all earned a lot of money. The truth is they don't, in fact, they're more often going to be on a low wage or unemployed.
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I can't find anywhere in the WHOLE thread where OP asked for Your opinion? ...Are you one of those Transgender Authoritay?

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So why are you posting?
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If Migrants all earned a lot of money. The truth is they don't, in fact, they're more often going to be on a low wage or unemployed.
id like to see the studies for that.. my understanding is a lot of what is floating western economies currently is this immigration and the taxes they pay

however i haven't looked at anything for a few years
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I can't find anywhere in the WHOLE thread where OP asked for Your opinion? ...Are you one of those Transgender Authoritay?

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You're idiot number two around here.
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Serious question; why is it half of the right wingers on here sound like they're 12 years old on some kind of permanent acid trip?
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Wrong yet again! 2nd place is the First Loser!

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Serious question; why is it half of the right wingers on here sound like they're 12 years old on some kind of permanent acid trip?
serious question. why does a moron who sounds like he's 12 & on acid think others are less intelligent than he is?

shit-flinger.
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Ya'll are all a bunch of fucking dorks. Except for Bladewire, dyna mo yo, and possibly Horacio Caine.
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serious question. why does a moron who sounds like he's 12 & on acid think others are less intelligent than he is?

shit-flinger.

Says the delusional dinglenuts who still can't differentiate between your and you're.

How's the lawsuit against the FBI for making you cry like a little girl?

Fucking whiny ass crybaby.
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As you're the self appointed Authoritay and being from Manhattan using the contraction 'Ya'll'...

Please allow me to cast my vote:
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lets see, to be left wing today...

you excuse the criminals, hate the cops. black lives matter!


I don't think you understand what a subset is.



you believe people that earn wealth stole it, or inherited it, or otherwise did nothing to actually make it. & that wealth should be taxed, 90%. so liberals can xfer it to their taker friends.

It should be taxed. You might have a poor understanding of the tax code. The vast majority of wealth in the United States has never been taxed. If we taxed it at 25% or so as Donlad Trump has suggested, it would pay of the national debt.

Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich - November 9, 1999

you believe that there is no difference between an immigrant & an illegal alien. there is no "american" at all, just ethnic groups, first, americans second. there should be nothing at the border from restraining democrats friends, the criminals, from walking into our country. left wingers are even fighting to give them the right to vote. its true.

This is pretty odd and unrelated to reality but go ahead believing much of this.

& worst, if you offend someone PC, you are a bigot, sexist racist homophobe hitler. Even complimenting a woman can get you publicly shamed. you violated a safe space, might get kicked out of college, or fired from facebook. all for "offending" someone.

Just don't be an asshole. Not that hard really.
I'm definitely not a liberal then. My basic views:

No IRS

No property taxes ( if you buy a home the government won't leech your equity, it belongs to you)

All people have the same rights, no exceptions. ( seems basic to me )

Tax on food, gas, etc stays

I should legally be able to drive through all 50 states with my gun in the glove compartment with no problems.

Have unisex bathrooms for trans because rednecks everywhere will always be trying hard to fuck with them and anyone who looks questionable to them in toilets now.

All illegal aliens, of all races, will be forced to document, be fined and taxed and given path to citizenship. You don't pay the fine, or the tax, you're out within 30days.

All current student loans forgiven ( they're predatory ) Or dropped to 2% interest rate, and all future student loans at that rate.

That's basically it
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id like to see the studies for that.. my understanding is a lot of what is floating western economies currently is this immigration and the taxes they pay

however i haven't looked at anything for a few years
You don't need to see studies. go to the areas with a lot of migrants and see for yourself.

Any migrant, excluding people with skills like nurses and teachers, are doing a job a native could do. Who is now on benefits.
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:18 AM   #86
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I'm definitely not a liberal then. My basic views:

No IRS

No property taxes ( if you buy a home the government won't leech your equity, it belongs to you)

All people have the same rights, no exceptions. ( seems basic to me )
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Tax on food, gas, etc stays
And the tax on those good goes up enough to repalce the losses on other goods. Who replaces the IRS to collect the taxes.

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I should legally be able to drive through all 50 states with my gun in the glove compartment with no problems.
It still won't make your dick bigger.

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Have unisex bathrooms for trans because rednecks everywhere will always be trying hard to fuck with them and anyone who looks questionable to them in toilets now.
Paid out of taxes?

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All illegal aliens, of all races, will be forced to document, be fined and taxed and given path to citizenship. You don't pay the fine, or the tax, you're out within 30days.
Also fine the companies that employ them.

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All current student loans forgiven ( they're predatory ) Or dropped to 2% interest rate, and all future student loans at that rate.
In subjects like the sciences fine. Those training to be lawyers pay 20% interest.
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You don't need to see studies. go to the areas with a lot of migrants and see for yourself.

Any migrant, excluding people with skills like nurses and teachers, are doing a job a native could do. Who is now on benefits.
it's weird, but when talking to migrants around vancouver etc.. more than a few seem to have those skills, yet are unable to work due to not having 'western degrees'.

I prefer studies over opinion..
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