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Old 03-03-2017, 11:03 AM   #101
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rochard hello!

what was it you said everytime hilarys emails came up???

THERES NO EVIDENCE OF ANY WRONGDOING, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!

same deal, dumb dumb...

But today its 180 degrees. in rochard world, loretta meeting bill OK, trump talks to russians OMG OMG OMG

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Old 03-03-2017, 11:04 AM   #102
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Bullshit. No matter how you spin this, he lied.

Here is exactly what was said:

Franken: CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ?Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Drumpf.? These documents also allegedly say quote, ?There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government. ?Now, again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Drumpf campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

Sessions: I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it.


Sessions said he "was not aware of any of those activities". That is a direct lie. He met with the Russians. Twice. One time at the Republican convention.

He also said "I did not have communications with the Russians". He did. Twice.

Sessions was asked what he would do if there was any evidence that anyone in the Trump campaign communicated with the Russians, and in his answer he not only lied about having evidence of communication with the Russians, but also lied that he had direct communications with the Russians while working directly for Trump.

Why is the Trump administration covering up connections with Russia if there is nothing to hide?

Trump is telling us he has no connection with the Russians while his son tells us the direct opposite when he said ?Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets" and then ?we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.?

What are they hiding and why are they hiding it?

The intelligence agencies already know the depth of Trumps involvement with the Russians and it's very bad for Trump. Comey is refusing to give the House Intel Committee certain info, to help keep things from completely blowing up, they are having to subpoena him for the data. Schiff: FBI ?Walled Off? Details of Russia Probe From Congress

These things are purposely released to the public at a slow pace so all the public can follow the facts to their eventual end. If the public is given too much at one time without the drip of facts, and processing those facts, then they won't believe the outcome.

Remember, Trumps campaign, and his transition team, were being investigated by the FBI and didn't know it, it was a few months after the investigation started that it went public, and since it went public his Putin pets have been "resigning" one by one DUE TO LEAKS; Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, etc. Drip drip drip
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:09 AM   #103
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rochard hello!

what was it you said everytime hilarys emails came up???

THERES NO EVIDENCE OF ANY WRONGDOING, NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!

same deal, dumb dumb...

But today its 180 degrees. in rochard world, loretta meeting bill OK, trump talks to russians OMG OMG OMG

Here is the difference shilly boy.. Hillary was vindicated as making some mistakes but not intentionally doing anything wrong because she was "investigated" 20 times or however many it was. The investigations & that process vindicated her..

Meanwhile there has yet to be an investigation into Trump potential wrong doing because Republicans are playing party politics. Due to this Trump is not vindicated as doing nothing wrong. Instead it appears he is hiding his wrong doings and Republicans in congress are just as guilty for trying to cover it up.

Everything will come out in time, we will find out who knew what and heads will eventually roll if people attempted to cover it up. the "American" thing to do would be allow the investigation to happen to show there was no wrong doing. However clearly there is something to hide because they are scared to have the investigation..

Why do Republicans hate Democracy & our Constitution?
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:23 AM   #104
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What is illegal about meeting with russians? No one has answered this question yet
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Old 03-03-2017, 11:25 AM   #105
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The intelligence agencies already know the depth of Drumpfs involvement with the Russians and it's very bad for Trump. Comey is refusing to give the House Intel Committee certain info, to help keep things from completely blowing up, they are having to subpoena him for the data. Schiff: FBI ?Walled Off? Details of Russia Probe From Congress

These things are purposely released to the public at a slow pace so all the public can follow the facts to their eventual end. If the public is given too much at one time without the drip of facts, and processing those facts, then they won't believe the outcome.

Remember, Trumps campaign, and his transition team, were being investigated by the FBI and didn't know it, it was a few months after the investigation started that it went public, and since it went public his Putin pets have been "resigning" one by one DUE TO LEAKS; Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, etc. Drip drip drip
It's gotten to the point where it's either time to confront this now or allow it to continue to drip out one bit at a time until it explodes. The truth is going to come out one way or another.

Hillary went through 11 investigations and all of them found there was no wrong doing. If the Trump team has done nothing wrong, allow the investigation so we can move on.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:35 PM   #106
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I don't see it being allowed. The republicans are already walking it back. What can the dems do?
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:13 PM   #107
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It's gotten to the point where it's either time to confront this now or allow it to continue to drip out one bit at a time until it explodes. The truth is going to come out one way or another.

Hillary went through 11 investigations and all of them found there was no wrong doing. If the Trump team has done nothing wrong, allow the investigation so we can move on.
There is nothing to investigate
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What is illegal about meeting with russians? No one has answered this question yet
You really can't be this dumb can you? Do you just not follow along well or are you completely uninformed on this?

Don't worry, I know it's all three..
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:54 PM   #109
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why does this remind me of Burn after Reading?
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so how is it illegal?
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:15 PM   #111
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What is illegal about meeting with russians? No one has answered this question yet
There is nothing illegal about meeting with the Russians. In fact, according to Robbie, it's very common for political campaigns to meet with foreign governments.

However, in this case, there are many financial connections between Russia and Trump. In fact, his son a few years ago says that most of their money comes from Russia. We already have multiple conflicts of interest here which should disqualify Trump, but when a foreign government is involved at this level you have to ask yourself if there is a higher connection the general public isn't aware of. We know now the Russians hacked the DNC and passed the emails onto Wikileaks, and took other actions to influence the election. The Russians helped Trump win the election.

The entire time Trump denied his campaign had any connections to the Russian government. We already know this is completely false; A large portion of of his staff has direct ties to Russia. Some of them have even won awards or been paid money for speeches.

But the truth is while Trump was denying his campaign had any contact with the Russian government, his staff was meeting with them behind closed doors. Jeff Sessions is a great example. Why would anyone from the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services need to meet with someone from the Russian government behind closed doors without the support and guidance of the State Department?

Even worse, why would they have this secret private meeting at the Republican National Convention?

Now the problem is they are telling lies about all of this. Why? If they have done nothing wrong, why are they lying about it? What they trying to hide? Why is the Trump administration trying to get the FBI to be quiet about this?

Where there is smoke there is fire. And right now we have smoke all over the place. We don't have smoke in one place, we have smoke in a dozen places. We have five people from the Trump camp who have secretly met with people from the Russian government. Robbie is telling us Trump didn't meet with anyone from the Russian government, but do you really mean to tell me the top diplomat from Russia (who is also their top spy) went to the Trump tower to meet with Flynn and Trump's son-in-law but... didn't meet with Trump himself? LOL. They've lied about everything else, so it's safe to say they are lying about this too.
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There is nothing illegal about meeting with the Russians. In fact, according to Robbie, it's very common for political campaigns to meet with foreign governments.

However, in this case, there are many financial connections between Russia and Trump. In fact, his son a few years ago says that most of their money comes from Russia. We already have multiple conflicts of interest here which should disqualify Trump, but when a foreign government is involved at this level you have to ask yourself if there is a higher connection the general public isn't aware of. We know now the Russians hacked the DNC and passed the emails onto Wikileaks, and took other actions to influence the election. The Russians helped Trump win the election.

The entire time Trump denied his campaign had any connections to the Russian government. We already know this is completely false; A large portion of of his staff has direct ties to Russia. Some of them have even won awards or been paid money for speeches.

But the truth is while Trump was denying his campaign had any contact with the Russian government, his staff was meeting with them behind closed doors. Jeff Sessions is a great example. Why would anyone from the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services need to meet with someone from the Russian government behind closed doors without the support and guidance of the State Department?

Even worse, why would they have this secret private meeting at the Republican National Convention?

Now the problem is they are telling lies about all of this. Why? If they have done nothing wrong, why are they lying about it? What they trying to hide? Why is the Trump administration trying to get the FBI to be quiet about this?

Where there is smoke there is fire. And right now we have smoke all over the place. We don't have smoke in one place, we have smoke in a dozen places. We have five people from the Trump camp who have secretly met with people from the Russian government. Robbie is telling us Trump didn't meet with anyone from the Russian government, but do you really mean to tell me the top diplomat from Russia (who is also their top spy) went to the Trump tower to meet with Flynn and Trump's son-in-law but... didn't meet with Trump himself? LOL. They've lied about everything else, so it's safe to say they are lying about this too.
Actually, it is very much illegal to meet with a foreign govt and attempt to negotiate policy with out authorization of our govt. It's actually a violation of the US Constitution.

Now Sessions was a US senator at the time so he could legally meet with foreign officers and talk policy if "acting" as a Senator. However the thing that is very complicated is at that time he was already working for Trump's campaign. Added to this he lied to Congress about these meetings. To add even more to this, it's reported he met in "private" with the Russian ambassador which is simply "not" done, because of issues of blackmail or shady shit going on.. I dunno if that's a rule he broke or a highly suggested practice.. either way he lied to Congress and that's the key issue at the "moment".

What he talked about is still a concern but his first "they got him" is he lied under oath committing perjury. That's not something to take lightly from the head of the DOJ. In fact it's even possible he could lose his law license for lying under oath.. (Clinton lost his for lying under oath about the BJ. Lying under oath is why Clinton was technically impeached)

I think this will prove to be a much bigger deal than what happened with Flynn.. I'm betting another of Trump's men bites the dust. Now the fucked up thing is I bet they will let him "resign" like Flynn and not get charged as long as he resigns. However the fucker should lose his law license and be charged with perjury. Any other normal person would get carged for much less. I'm sick of these scumbags getting off scott free..
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