Congress Overwhelmingly Votes YES to New Russian Sanctions & Limiting Trump's Power

[Bladewire]

Now Trump has to sign it into law, if he doesn't it goes back to congress for a 2/3 vote to overule Trump, and they will!

[Bladewire]

https://www.rt.com/usa/397474-house-...ctions-russia/


"Lawmakers voted 419-3 to approve legislation is seeking to punish Russia over a host of issues, including its alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential election, its support for the Syrian government and alleged support for the rebels in Ukraine, as well as Crimea?s accession to Russia.

The sanctions target a wide array of entities and individuals ? including Russia?s energy sector, banks and weapons manufacturers, as well as those whom the US has accused of interfering in the US presidential election through hacking and otherwise.

To reverse each of the sanctions, the administration would have to provide evidence and certify that the conditions that prompted them have been removed.

Despite expressing doubts about Russia?s alleged interference in his election, President Trump would sign the legislation, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on Sunday.

However, the following day Huckabee Sanders said the president was going to ?study that legislation and see what the final product looks like.?

[Bladewire]

[Rochard]

419-3. Yikes.

[pimpmaster9000]

so the USA, who meddles in elections all around the world on an unbelievable scale, is punishing russia for doing the exact thing they are...amusing

I rest my nuts on this vote...

[ilnjscb]

Bladewire you do know about the Senate, don't you buddy? The House sends the bill to the Senate, then the president. This might help:

[kane]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

so the USA, who meddles in elections all around the world on an unbelievable scale, is punishing russia for doing the exact thing they are...amusing

I rest my nuts on this vote...

Russia is free to put trade sanctions on the US.

[AndyA]

And guess what

Trump is going to veto and the republicans on this board will defend him

He's obstructing justice

Jesus I've never seen such blind loyalty

I seriously cannot respect anyone tha still supports this piece of shit

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by kane

Russia is free to put trade sanctions on the US.

yes but I am wondering how the 400+ people who voted on this, deal with the hypocrisy of the situation and manage to take themselves seriously...I think this is more of a case of "pooty got us bad" and they will try to make the oligarchs go from 12 castles to 9...it will probably fuck up many people US people who do business with russia and open up a spot for some chinaman...its a bizarre event in any case...

[kane]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

yes but I am wondering how the 400+ people who voted on this, deal with the hypocrisy of the situation and manage to take themselves seriously...I think this is more of a case of "pooty got us bad" and they will try to make the oligarchs go from 12 castles to 9...it will probably fuck up many people US people who do business with russia and open up a spot for some chinaman...its a bizarre event in any case...

I am 46-years-old and as far back as I can remember there has been one message that is told to US citizens over and over and over again. That message: Russia bad, U.S. good.

It's that simple. Most people in this country don't see it as a hypocrisy because we are raised to believe we are better than Russia and they are our enemy. If you interfere in our election you are bad. If we interfere in yours, we are protecting ourselves and democracy.

Another reality is that the U.S., at least in my lifetime, has never been afraid to cut off its nose to spite its face.

[kane]

Originally Posted by AndyA

And guess what

Trump is going to veto and the republicans on this board will defend him

He's obstructing justice

Jesus I've never seen such blind loyalty

I seriously cannot respect anyone tha still supports this piece of shit

I don't think he will veto it. 40%+ of the country already thinks he colluded with the Russians to win the election. After a landslide vote like that his veto would look really bad for him at a time his son and son-in-law are in hot water and with a landslide vote like that his veto would likely be overturned. He already has issues with his party, the last thing he needs right now is for them to openly defy him on something major like this.

[TheDynasty]

it's about time they did SOMETHING!

[AndyA]

Originally Posted by kane

I don't think he will veto it. 40%+ of the country already thinks he colluded with the Russians to win the election. After a landslide vote like that his veto would look really bad for him at a time his son and son-in-law are in hot water and with a landslide vote like that his veto would likely be overturned. He already has issues with his party, the last thing he needs right now is for them to openly defy him on something major like this.

Hahahaha
You guys are really clueless

Want to make it interesting? $10,000 that trump vetos the Russian sanctions

[AndyA]

I would be willing to bet my soul Trump will veto the Russian sanctions bill and say it's because we have no proof Russia did it

Then Robbie will jump on and say 'hey we work for trump he doesn't work for us"
Or some other stupid fuck statement like that

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Bladewire you do know about the Senate, don't you buddy? The House sends the bill to the Senate, then the president. This might help:

I remember that video on PBS when I was a kid

You must be a foreigner.

This bill originated in the Senate and passed 98-2 and procedurally had to be originated in the house because of a technicality involving legislation having to do with revenue. So now the House passed it 419-3, hence my thread title "Congress Overwhelmingly Votes YES to New Russian Sanctions & Limiting Trump's Power"

An American would know the history of this bill, educate yourself, going back to the Senate will not be an issue and it will on Trumps desk within the week, you didn't know that either

[slapass]

Originally Posted by AndyA

Hahahaha
You guys are really clueless

Want to make it interesting? $10,000 that trump vetos the Russian sanctions

Wow! I do not think this nut case is predictable but I am impressed.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by AndyA

And guess what

Trump is going to veto and the republicans on this board will defend him

He's obstructing justice

Jesus I've never seen such blind loyalty

I seriously cannot respect anyone tha still supports this piece of shit

Really? Care to wager a bet on his veto?
You are blinded as I don't know who, it is laughable...

[kane]

Originally Posted by AndyA

Hahahaha
You guys are really clueless

Want to make it interesting? $10,000 that trump vetos the Russian sanctions

I'm not taking any bet that involves Trump. I don't think he will veto it, but he is unpredictable at best so there is no way of knowing exactly what he will do.

For all I know he will veto it then tweet out that he didn't veto it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

I am 46-years-old and as far back as I can remember there has been one message that is told to US citizens over and over and over again. That message: Russia bad, U.S. good.

It's that simple. Most people in this country don't see it as a hypocrisy because we are raised to believe we are better than Russia and they are our enemy. If you interfere in our election you are bad. If we interfere in yours, we are protecting ourselves and democracy.

Another reality is that the U.S., at least in my lifetime, has never been afraid to cut off its nose to spite its face.

The list of countries all over the world that America has interfered in is long. But the biggest joke is what has Russia done to interfere in the US elections?

They did what?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AndyA

I would be willing to bet my soul Trump will veto the Russian sanctions bill and say it's because we have no proof Russia did it

You have no proof. You have media spin and nothing more.

Russia should face sanctions, but not for what they are alleged to have done in the US elections. If that were the criteria the US would be facing sanctions from Europe.

[Sarn]

This really good sanction. )) Now need wait result, I hope Trump will approve it))

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The list of countries all over the world that America has interfered in is long. But the biggest joke is what has Russia done to interfere in the US elections?

They did what?

Paul thinks America is the reason for everything bad in the universe and Putin is our savior angel.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You have no proof. You have media spin and nothing more.

Russia should face sanctions, but not for what they are alleged to have done in the US elections. If that were the criteria the US would be facing sanctions from Europe.

Europe is an allie Paul, they're not an advesary. It's like friends trying to push something in their favor not an advesary that wants to destroy your way of life.

The hacks, and Russians meeting with Trump Jr. with stolen data on Clinton is all the proof we need, on top of all the other solid proof & people fired and being investigated for lying about Russia.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Europe is an allie Paul, they're not an advesary. It's like friends trying to push something in their favor not an advesary that wants to destroy your way of life.

The hacks, and Russians meeting with Trump Jr. with stolen data on Clinton is all the proof we need, on top of all the other solid proof & people fired and being investigated for lying about Russia.

But this sanction against EU energy sector

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

But this sanction against EU energy sector

Post the sanction you're talking about

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Paul thinks America is the reason for everything bad in the universe and Putin is our savior angel.

No, I do not think that so stop trying to put words into my mouth. I care deeply about the US as I have family living there. It's also the leader of the free woerld so it's in my interest to make sure things go right. I don't like what Putin is doing and welcome sanctions against him. Even if it means a little discomfort for Europe for a while.

You think everything would come good if only Clinton was elected to a corrupt democratic government. It would make little difference.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Europe is an allie Paul, they're not an advesary. It's like friends trying to push something in their favor not an advesary that wants to destroy your way of life.

The hacks, and Russians meeting with Trump Jr. with stolen data on Clinton is all the proof we need, on top of all the other solid proof & people fired and being investigated for lying about Russia.

So it's OK to hack your allies.

What was revealed in these famous hacks that made Americans vote differently? Something they should know, shouldn't know or a load of bollox?

You can't see this is the elite trying to remove a man who wasn't meant to win. OK, so it's Trump and he is a bad President but he was elected. Remember how Obama came to office and was thwarted all the way by the two houses. This is what Americans politics has reduced itself to, the 1% buying politicians and power.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It's also the leader of the free woerld .

[Tasty1]

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

[pimpmaster9000]

leader of the free world has 1/4 of the planets prison population and has invaded more countries in 70+ years than the roman empire in 1500 years...leader of the free world LOL

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Post the sanction you're talking about

This sanction which we talk about)
Next step will be Trump attempts sell coal in Germany or overpriced gas


But yes Putin not receive money too

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I remember that video on PBS when I was a kid

You must be a foreigner.

This bill originated in the Senate and passed 98-2 and procedurally had to be originated in the house because of a technicality involving legislation having to do with revenue. So now the House passed it 419-3, hence my thread title "Congress Overwhelmingly Votes YES to New Russian Sanctions & Limiting Trump's Power"

An American would know the history of this bill, educate yourself, going back to the Senate will not be an issue and it will on Trumps desk within the week, you didn't know that either

Haha, you are too funny. It still has to pass the Senate dingus! Again! It doesn't matter where it originates! If I was a foreigner I would probably have better things to do than correct you in every other thread. As it is I find it distressing to know that a countryman of mine was obviously high or asleep in civics 101. I'm interested to see if they will overrule Trump.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Haha, you are too funny. It still has to pass the Senate dingus! Again! It doesn't matter where it originates! If I was a foreigner I would probably have better things to do than correct you in every other thread. As it is I find it distressing to know that a countryman of mine was obviously high or asleep in civics 101. I'm interested to see if they will overrule Trump.

Your an idiot and you don't comprehend English well

"I'm interested to see if they will overrule Trump." You're so stupid. 517 people in congress voted to limit Trumps power, 5 voted against it. Only an idiot would think they won't get the 2/3 vote to overule a veto by Trump. Keep dreaming snowflake.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Your an idiot and you don't comprehend English well

"I'm interested to see if they will overrule Trump." You're so stupid. 517 people in congress voted to limit Trumps power, 5 voted against it. Only an idiot would think they won't get the 2/3 vote to overule a veto by Trump. Keep dreaming snowflake.

Haha you are endlessly entertaining! You claim to speak and write English well yet you don't know the difference between "Your" and "You're". How embarrassing, and I've quoted it before you could change it!

Don't you enjoy it when someone goes on and on about someone else's perceived ability, and then makes a foolish mistake like that in front of everyone? Classic!

Why don't you peruse this article by a publication that may meet your standards, CNN. Read this paragraph especially, please. I've helpfully quoted and bolded it for you so you don't have to read the whole article:

"The vote was 419-3. The legislation moves to the Senate, but it's unclear when the Senate will vote on the measure, which includes new sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea. Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Corker indicated Monday he may want to make some tweaks to the bill, which was negotiated between the House and Senate after the initial version he drafted sailed through on a 98-2 vote."

House overwhelmingly passes Russia sanctions bill

Haha at this rate, I should get paid for tutoring you. Let's see if in your next post, you can achieve correct grammar and spelling. That will make me feel like we're getting somewhere with all this work I'm having to do.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Sarn

This sanction which we talk about)
Next step will be Trump attempts sell coal in Germany or overpriced gas


But yes Putin not receive money too

Those sanctions are gonna hurt hope you can pay your internet bill 😲

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Those sanctions are gonna hurt hope you can pay your internet bill 😲

Even then I will have the internet from my provider on speed 64 kb/s for free

[pimpmaster9000]

List of things the USA can do about pooty:

-cry about how awesome he is whilst absorbing the crushing anal pain and learning to live with it...

[Bladewire]

Senate puts Russian sanction bill on Trump's desk to sign today with a veto proof majority

Senate passes sanctions bill targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea - CBS News

"The Senate has passed a sweeping sanctions package targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea with an overwhelming bipartisan majority, 97-2.

The U.S. House passed the sanctions package Tuesday in a 419-3 vote, sending the legislation to the Senate. The White House has not definitively said that President Trump will sign the bill, but the the measure won a veto-proof majority in both the House and Senate."

[Bladewire]

Will Trump sign the bill?

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The hacks, and Russians meeting with Trump Jr. with stolen data on Clinton is all the proof we need, on top of all the other solid proof & people fired and being investigated for lying about Russia.

What hacks, BladeLiar? Are you referring to the DNC servers? The DNC refused to allow the FBI to examine the servers, so there's no "proof" of anything. It most likely was a leak from Seth Rich.

Are you referring to the Podesta emails released by Wikileaks? In his own emails Podesta says he lost his smartphone in a taxi. That was after he fell for a "change your password" phishing scam. What a dumbass!

Don Jr met with a Russian lawyer who is a DNC operative- No dirt on Hillary handed over. Again no proof of anything.

Are you referring to Michael Flynn, who resigned after being the target of a witch hunt? He will earn 10 times as much money in the private sector, so he said screw it and quit. Again no proof of anything.

You Hillbots are obsessed with the fake Russia HOAX. Meanwhile, the Hillary campaign was colluding with the governments of Ukraine and Mexico to get dirt on Trump. Where's the outrage?

HYPOCRITES.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Will Trump sign the bill?

It's Thursday night, he has probably already left to go golfing for the weekend so it will have to wait

[RedFred]

Trump is already saying he might veto it because "its not tough enough against the Russians"


OMFG, can you believe this shit? I'm sure though the Trumpers on here will defend him.




"he may veto the sanctions and negotiate an even tougher deal against the Russians."

If Trump does decide to veto the bill, Congress has shown it could easily override him.

Congress sends Russia sanctions to Trump's desk, daring a veto - POLITICO

[kane]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Trump is already saying he might veto it because "its not tough enough against the Russians"


OMFG, can you believe this shit? I'm sure though the Trumpers on here will defend him.




"he may veto the sanctions and negotiate an even tougher deal against the Russians."

If Trump does decide to veto the bill, Congress has shown it could easily override him.

Congress sends Russia sanctions to Trump's desk, daring a veto - POLITICO

Of course, if he wants tougher sanctions he doesn't have to veto it. He can pick up the phone and speak to Ryan and McConnell and ask for an amendment or amendments that change the bill and make it tougher. They can vote and pass those and he can sign.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Trump is already saying he might veto it because "its not tough enough against the Russians"


OMFG, can you believe this shit? I'm sure though the Trumpers on here will defend him.




"he may veto the sanctions and negotiate an even tougher deal against the Russians."

If Trump does decide to veto the bill, Congress has shown it could easily override him.

Congress sends Russia sanctions to Trump's desk, daring a veto - POLITICO

The vote was delayed weeks from the Senate to the House because the Whitehouse was negotiating for more lenient sanctions on Russia so the bullshit lie from Trump about a veto to be tougher on Russia is just that... a bullshit lie.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by kane

Of course, if he wants tougher sanctions he doesn't have to veto it. He can pick up the phone and speak to Ryan and McConnell and ask for an amendment or amendments that change the bill and make it tougher. They can vote and pass those and he can sign.

Yea but anyone with an IQ over 30 knows the real reason Trump would veto, and it's not because it's to lax on Russia.

[kane]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Yea but anyone with an IQ over 30 knows the real reason Trump would veto, and it's not because it's to lax on Russia.

Agreed. If he vetos it he will start "negotiating" a better deal and somehow that deal will never manage to materialize.

He is likely saying this hoping if he were to veto it with that reason his party would support him. I don't think they will, at least not without him sitting them down and giving them a solid outline of what he wants added and the odds are there are no such additions.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Senate puts Russian sanction bill on Trump's desk to sign today with a veto proof majority

Senate passes sanctions bill targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea - CBS News

"The Senate has passed a sweeping sanctions package targeting Russia, Iran and North Korea with an overwhelming bipartisan majority, 97-2.

The U.S. House passed the sanctions package Tuesday in a 419-3 vote, sending the legislation to the Senate. The White House has not definitively said that President Trump will sign the bill, but the the measure won a veto-proof majority in both the House and Senate."

This is a good thing.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

What hacks, BladeLiar? Are you referring to the DNC servers? The DNC refused to allow the FBI to examine the servers, so there's no "proof" of anything. It most likely was a leak from Seth Rich.

Are you referring to the Podesta emails released by Wikileaks? In his own emails Podesta says he lost his smartphone in a taxi. That was after he fell for a "change your password" phishing scam. What a dumbass!

Don Jr met with a Russian lawyer who is a DNC operative- No dirt on Hillary handed over. Again no proof of anything.

Are you referring to Michael Flynn, who resigned after being the target of a witch hunt? He will earn 10 times as much money in the private sector, so he said screw it and quit. Again no proof of anything.

You Hillbots are obsessed with the fake Russia HOAX. Meanwhile, the Hillary campaign was colluding with the governments of Ukraine and Mexico to get dirt on Trump. Where's the outrage?

HYPOCRITES.

Needs to be said.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Needs to be said.

Use your own words from your own mind