we will take jerusalem (c) Trump !

[Sarn]

Trump risks backlash as he prepares to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-muslim-world

[TheDynasty]

Trump sucks

[JuicyBunny]

[CaptainHowdy]

That is ... bold??

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

That is ... bold??

Erdogan: Jerusalem status a red line for Muslims
Erdogan: Jerusalem status a red line for Muslims | Turkey News | Al Jazeera

[Rochard]

I fail to understand why Trump wants to do this...

[MaDalton]

people will die because of this while Donny plays golf

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why Trump wants to do this...

He's doing it for a very simple reason; it's just another way to express his hatred for Muslims.

End of story.

[beerptrol]

The orange fucktard baboon is at it again

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why Trump wants to do this...

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

He's doing it for a very simple reason; it's just another way to express his hatred for Muslims.
End of story.

The Crusades were a series of religious wars sanctioned by the Latin Church in the medieval period. The most commonly known Crusades are the campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean aimed at recovering the Holy Land from Islamic rule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

"Deus vult" ("God wills it") and promised absolution to participants

[Look Chang]

World War III is coming soon

[BaldBastard]

Very sad NK hasn't taken the bait or should that just be Asia. Not enough weapon sales obviously .

Time to try elsewhere.

[Bladewire]

^^ Truth

[mineistaken]

Campaign promises kept.

[Paul Markham]

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...1#post22102341

[Sarn]

ERDOGAN WILL CUT TIES WITH ISRAEL IF THE US EMBASSY MOVES
Erdogan: I?ll cut ties with Israel - Israel News - Jerusalem Post

[Sarn]

NATO about to lose Turkey's alliance
https://www.dailysabah.com/columns/d...rkeys-alliance

[NewNick]

So according to the conspiracies it was a Jewish / Israeli plan to put The Baboon into the White House in the first place.

He certainly had a lot of support from such places.

It would appear that it is time to pay the piper.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by NewNick

So according to the conspiracies it was a Jewish / Israeli plan to put The Baboon into the White House in the first place.

He certainly had a lot of support from such places.

It would appear that it is time to pay the piper.

Ah, how convenient. Anything else besides them and Russia,?

[Phoenix]

Wait...isn't it already under control of Israel?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by StefanG

people will die because of this while Donny plays golf

Do you think more or less people will die than the millions of deaths from Bush and Obamas foreign invasion and government overthrowing policy?

[pimpmaster9000]

nuke up or be ruled by the US "lesser of 2 evils" government...

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Do you think more or less people will die than the millions of deaths from Bush and Obamas foreign invasion and government overthrowing policy?

so you think every president has something like a quota to fill and Trump is working on his?

and that any reason is good enough to start a conflict, no matter if it makes sense or not?

but at least you learned your Russian "What about..." lesson to distract from the topic at hand

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by StefanG

so you think every president has something like a quota to fill and Trump is working on his?

and that any reason is good enough to start a conflict, no matter if it makes sense or not?

but at least you learned your Russian "What about..." lesson to distract from the topic at hand

So you are saying nobody should solve any land question if the other side is threatening deaths? Nice, lets go grab some land and threaten killings. Nobody would step in because "people will die".

Fairytale world

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

So you are saying nobody should solve any land question if the other side is threatening deaths? Nice, lets go grab some land and threaten killings. Nobody would step in because "people will die".

Fairytale world

oh the jews are so peaceful...they got land gifted and then "offered peace" LOL

it is the equivalent of me moving in to your house, then claiming I want peace, and if you get angry I will call you a terrorist

look at all the peace:




israel be like : "dont complain while we are oppressing you and stealing your land! we are offering peace!"

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

So you are saying nobody should solve any land question if the other side is threatening deaths? Nice, lets go grab some land and threaten killings. Nobody would step in because "people will die".

Fairytale world

you need to stop reading only the headlines on Breitbart

just like on the tax issue, the immigrant issue or any other politcal issue - you spend zero time and effort on the real problems and just parrot your emperors babbling.

I looked up your old posts, you used to be a nice guy with moderate opinions posting useful stuff

so either this is somebody else posting under the same account or you have seriously brainwashed yourself with right wing propaganda

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Ah, how convenient. Anything else besides them and Russia,?

Ok why on Earth would Trump give a flying fuck where the capitol of Israel is ? This is a real estate developer from New York who is only interested in doing deals and MAGA.

This is a guy who has repeatedly stated that it is America first all the way - staying out of the worlds problems - an inward looking presidency.

Then out of the blue he announces an incredibly contentious move which has his Jewish buddies cock-a-hoop and the muslim world absolutely livid.

This is a move which is likely to raise tensions and has no benefit to the US commercially, militarily, or politically.


So do tell, why do YOU think he has done this, at this time ?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by StefanG

you need to stop reading only the headlines on Breitbart

just like on the tax issue, the immigrant issue or any other politcal issue - you spend zero time and effort on the real problems and just parrot your emperors babbling.

I looked up your old posts, you used to be a nice guy with moderate opinions posting useful stuff

so either this is somebody else posting under the same account or you have seriously brainwashed yourself with right wing propaganda

Again and again: 0% on topic, 100% ad hominem.

This has nothing to do with right wing by the way. I mean you can go and declare pro Palestinian thing or pro Israeli. In both cases "people will die".
Does that mean this issue should continue being in the limbo forever? Oh yeah, better endless "negotiations" and still nothing decided. Lol.

But yeah, no chance to get anything on topic from you, well because, I am stupid, of course

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I am stupid, of course

Correct.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by StefanG

Russian "What about..."

let's go see reality VS let's will see CNN fairy tales))

[DownThePoole]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

oh the jews are so peaceful...they got land gifted and then "offered peace" LOL

it is the equivalent of me moving in to your house, then claiming I want peace, and if you get angry I will call you a terrorist

look at all the peace:




israel be like : "dont complain while we are oppressing you and stealing your land! we are offering peace!"

You do realize that before 1948, there was a mix population there of Jews and Arabs and they were all called Palestinians. There wasn't a real country called Palestine. The area was called that since the Roman empire conquer it from the Jews and named it after the philistines.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why Trump wants to do this...

Once you understand why he wants to do this you'll also understand how he won the election

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by StefanG

so you think every president has something like a quota to fill and Trump is working on his?

and that any reason is good enough to start a conflict, no matter if it makes sense or not?

but at least you learned your Russian "What about..." lesson to distract from the topic at hand

No, his point was that it really doesn't matter what ANY president does deaths will follow because it is a complicated situation that no ONE man can solve. I can't say what he did was a good thing or a horrible thing, i'm just not that familiar, but I do know that the US doesn't have much in the way of influence in aiding in the aim for peace in this region if anything it is the opposite--as no matter what they do it antagonizes someone.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by DownThePoole

You do realize that before 1948, there was a mix population there of Jews and Arabs and they were all called Palestinians. There wasn't a real country called Palestine. The area was called that since the Roman empire conquer it from the Jews and named it after the philistines.

well in 1948 there was a shit ton of jewish refugees in the area called palestine, and the jews all made up 1/3 of the population with refugees included...whether western colonialists consider palestine "real" or not is a moot point...the point is only 1/3 of the population were jews and of those 1/3 a huge % were refugees...now look at the map...they have waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than 1/3 of the territories...

I find it hilarious when the jews portray themselves as peace loving busy body do-gooders..."we would sign a peace deal right away" LOL well so would I if I stole somebody elses land and then wanted to keep status quo...bring that peace deal right over

oh I want to rob a bank and then when the cops come I want to sign a peace deal right away if the cops shoot they are terrorists

[wehateporn]

Trump was brought to power by Zionists, this is the least he could do

[Sarn]

Deus vult!

[GAMEFINEST]

Trump is jesus

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by StefanG

so you think every president has something like a quota to fill and Trump is working on his?

and that any reason is good enough to start a conflict, no matter if it makes sense or not?

Weird interpretation. No, I do not. I just find it odd you are so actively hating Trump, yet compared to Bush and Obama who have millions of deaths under their belts with the policy they were ordered to execute, which also caused the present migrant crisis and ISIS... I never heard one critical peep from you about for example Obama for continuing and expanding that agenda. A war based on lies and the complete destabilization of the middle east as an ongoing agenda under Bush and Obama is not that important I guess? But Trump tweets something about a kneeling NFL player for instance, and there you are. I guess we all have different priorities.

Originally Posted by StefanG

but at least you learned your Russian "What about..." lesson to distract from the topic at hand

Not at all. I was pointing out your total hypocrisy.

About the topic: Everyone knows Israel and the US are each others most loyal allies, that's why Israel still exists amidst muslims who all hate them. The US has been arming them as long as i can remember. The fights over land in that region are never-ending. Trump wants to comply to the Israelis plan to move the embassy. Well good luck with that. I am against meddling in the middle east, I was very much against the airstrike in Syria after "rebels" released that gas and blamed Assad (who was winning and wouldn't be that fucking stupid). It was funny though that the mainstream media stopped Trump bashing for 2 weeks when he did that. One of the few war mongering establishment orders he obeyed, and the establishment controlled mainstream media was all for it. Tolerant, progressive CNN that loves bombings and wars.

This embassy move is seen by Palestinians as provoking according to the article, could be. Fact is, this is no surprise because US and Israel have been lovers forever. They've expanded their territory with the help of the US these last 60 years and they keep doing it. Not surprising.

[Sarn]

Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital
Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital - CNNPolitics

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

No, his point was that it really doesn't matter what ANY president does deaths will follow because it is a complicated situation that no ONE man can solve. I can't say what he did was a good thing or a horrible thing, i'm just not that familiar, but I do know that the US doesn't have much in the way of influence in aiding in the aim for peace in this region if anything it is the opposite--as no matter what they do it antagonizes someone.

So out of the blue Trump announces a move which destroys any hope of a two party state and therefore a lasting peace settlment.

This is not about one person solving it - this is about Trump, a guy who could not give a fuck about where the capitol of Israel is, suddenly deciding to say fuck you to the Palestinian / Arab / Muslim world in favour of their arch enemy.

American presidents since Jimmy Carter had tried to broker peace in the middle east.

It would appear that the arch deal maker is holding up his side of the bargain - whatever it was.

[Sarn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
Capital and largest city Jerusalem (internationally unrecognized)



in google already fixed too))

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

No, his point was that it really doesn't matter what ANY president does deaths will follow because it is a complicated situation that no ONE man can solve. I can't say what he did was a good thing or a horrible thing, i'm just not that familiar, but I do know that the US doesn't have much in the way of influence in aiding in the aim for peace in this region if anything it is the opposite--as no matter what they do it antagonizes someone.

That's like claiming I should piss in your cup of coffee because it will turn to piss anyway after you drink it.

[Sarn]

[kane]

If Jared Kushner manages to stay out of jail, his job of bringing peace to the Middle East just became nearly impossible.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

No, his point was that it really doesn't matter what ANY president does deaths will follow because it is a complicated situation that no ONE man can solve. I can't say what he did was a good thing or a horrible thing, i'm just not that familiar, but I do know that the US doesn't have much in the way of influence in aiding in the aim for peace in this region if anything it is the opposite--as no matter what they do it antagonizes someone.

You are one of the more reasonable and objective people on this board, and while I don't always agree with you it's reassuring that you are open to rationale debate.

Unlike so many others here.

We need more middle of the liners around this place who are still in the habit of applying an objective and practical rationale.

Thank you.

[Diomed]

Muslims or Jews.

It's a tough call. Both races have been absolutely indoctrinated into their myopia. Jews claim to be the chosen people and will always be a Jew first instead of a human first.

Muslims are inbreeding (not a joke/insult btw) at an alarming rate and are truly acting as a Trojan horse into Europe.

But the Jews do control so many powerful and influential outlets that have huge real life implications that have yoked our reality down to pure distraction.

Without the Muslims flooding into Europe to out breed everyone, I would say the Jews pose a far more serious long term threat to humanities evolution.

But you don't shoot at the entire Calvary, you shoot the first guy running down the hill at you battle axe in hand.