Let us assume every thing that the Donald and his supporters say about the FBI is true.

[Steve Rupe]

Why do you think that some, I suspect most, in the FBI would want to try to stop the Donald from becoming President? I think it is because of the same reason the majority of Americans did not want him to be elected to the office in the first place and whom now, overwhelmingly do not support him at all.

Those in the FBI know even more so than the average person does that he is not in the least qualified to be President. The FBI are much better informed about the idiot man child that he really is than us the public and even us the public are aware of that fact.

[Rochard]

The FBI leans Republican, just like our military does.

However, the FBI does not decide who is president, nor do they actively engage in politics.

[crockett]

Its things like this as to why Page was being watched..



Carter Page Touted Russia Contacts in 2013 Letter | Time

He called himself "adviser to the Kremlin" in 2013. He worked directly with the Russians a d then he ends up in Trump's campaign along with all the other pro Russian stooges...

Of course the FBI would try to protect our country from traitors.. Its their fucking job. At the start of the investigation the FBI might of thought they were even helping to protect Trump..

[Vendzilla]

However, the FBI does not decide who is president, nor do they actively engage in politics.

Apparently , they do engage in politics now

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Apparently , they do engage in politics now

Its pretty amazing to see how not a single one of you right wing morons can think for yourself. You just accept what ever you are spoon fed.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Why do you think that some, I suspect most, in the FBI would want to try to stop the Donald from becoming President? I think it is because of the same reason the majority of Americans did not want him to be elected to the office in the first place and whom now, overwhelmingly do not support him at all.

Those in the FBI know even more so than the average person does that he is not in the least qualified to be President. The FBI are much better informed about the idiot man child that he really is than us the public and even us the public are aware of that fact.

Ummm have you seen the poll numbers lately?

And, the reason why they didn't want an "outsider" on the inside is because they were afraid he might come after them.. So what did they do? They gave him even more of a reason to. Fucking idiots..

I now honestly think they were going to attempt an assassination before he took office.. I'm trying to dig up the links but there was a General (can't even remember his name) who went to NY and met Trump without notifying the Obama admin. There was a big to do about it in the news. The very next day Trump moved to another residence. That's probably why he insisted on keeping his own private security... Because he didn't know who he could trust on the inside.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Ummm have you seen the poll numbers lately?

And, the reason why they didn't want an "outsider" on the inside is because they were afraid he might come after them.. So what did they do? They gave him even more of a reason to. Fucking idiots..

I now honestly think they were going to attempt an assassination before he took office.. I'm trying to dig up the links but there was a General (can't even remember his name) who went to NY and met Trump without notifying the Obama admin. There was a big to do about it in the news. The very next day Trump moved to another residence.

His approval ratings appear to be in mid to high 30's. The highest I have seen is around 38%. I am not a real big fan of polls as they sucked big time in the last Presidential election. I have always been doubtful of the accuracy of polls though.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

His ratings appear to be in mid to high 30's. The highest I have seen is around 38%.

Which is about where Obama's were at this point.. But you also have to take into consideration these are the same pollsters who got it wrong to begin with...

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

His approval ratings appear to be in mid to high 30's. The highest I have seen is around 38%. I am not a real big fan of polls as they sucked big time in the last Presidential election. I have always been doubtful of the accuracy of polls though.

I now see your edit

My mortgage company had a pretty large telemarketing operation. It was pretty easy to get people to tell you what you wanted to hear over the phone. Especially with targeted call lists. Actually for the most part you already knew what they were going to say before you even called them because the lists were so targeted... The poll operations are no different. They are being paid by one side or the other for results that they want to see.. So the call lists are created for those results...

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Ummm have you seen the poll numbers lately?

And, the reason why they didn't want an "outsider" on the inside is because they were afraid he might come after them.. So what did they do? They gave him even more of a reason to. Fucking idiots..

I now honestly think they were going to attempt an assassination before he took office.. I'm trying to dig up the links but there was a General (can't even remember his name) who went to NY and met Trump without notifying the Obama admin. There was a big to do about it in the news. The very next day Trump moved to another residence. That's probably why he insisted on keeping his own private security... Because he didn't know who he could trust on the inside.

So it was actually an Admiral, Admiral Mike Rogers. All the usual suspects began calling for his removal the day after his Trump visit.. https://www.npr.org/2016/11/22/50298...on-his-way-out
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...for-my-actions

Here's a timeline https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ber-17th-2016/

That article thinks he warned him of the spying, which he probably did, but I think there were also other warnings.....

[_Richard_]

the fbi, who basically gave trump the election with the 'we are investigating hillary.. oh wait we are no longer investigating hillary', has some diabolical plan against trump?

they could just stop and that would be diabolical enough

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So it was actually an Admiral, Admiral Mike Rogers. All the usual suspects began calling for his removal the day after his Trump visit..
Here's a timeline https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ber-17th-2016/

That article thinks he warned him of the spying, which he probably did, but I think there were also other warnings.....

^^ Excellent website. Check this out:

Operation Condor ? How NSA Director Mike Rogers Saved The U.S. From a Massive ConstitutionalhaCrisis?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Why do you think that some, I suspect most, in the FBI would want to try to stop the Donald from becoming President? I think it is because of the same reason the majority of Americans did not want him to be elected to the office in the first place and whom now, overwhelmingly do not support him at all.

Those in the FBI know even more so than the average person does that he is not in the least qualified to be President. The FBI are much better informed about the idiot man child that he really is than us the public and even us the public are aware of that fact.

Trump won if the rules had been different who knows if he would have campaigned differently.

It's not the job of the FBI to decide who is or isn't President. That makes them the supreme power.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

the fbi, who basically gave trump the election with the 'we are investigating hillary.. oh wait we are no longer investigating hillary', has some diabolical plan against trump?

they could just stop and that would be diabolical enough

Comey HAD to reopen the case because new emails appeared.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Trump won if the rules had been different who knows if he would have campaigned differently.

It's not the job of the FBI to decide who is or isn't President. That makes them the supreme power.

If the FBI broke the law in an effort to stop Trump from being elected they should be, at a minimum, terminated and at a maximum charged with what ever law they broke and brought before the Court.

If some members did in fact break the law I expect this will happen.

[Sarn]

tail wagging the dog

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Sarn

tail wagging the dog

Why do you say that?

[Bladewire]

It doesn't help when Trump's kids do interviews bragging about Russia's influence in Trumps company before the election

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

My mortgage company had a pretty large telemarketing operation. It was pretty easy to get people to tell you what you wanted to hear over the phone. Especially with targeted call lists. Actually for the most part you already knew what they were going to say before you even called them because the lists were so targeted... The poll operations are no different. They are being paid by one side or the other for results that they want to see.. So the call lists are created for those results...

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Which is about where Obama's were at this point.. But you also have to take into consideration these are the same pollsters who got it wrong to begin with...

What's it like writing one thing and then in your next post disproving what you previously posted?

You do not think logically.

You validated Trump's low poll numbers by comparing them to your nemesis Obama at the same time in the previous administration after posting that polls are all made up.

It's like Trump saying that Obama's low unemployment numbers are fake and when Trump's same low unemployment numbers come out they're all of a sudden valid. Retarded

You people literally talk out of both ends and wonder why people don't believe anything you say and know that you have no integrity

[astronaut x]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Apparently , they do engage in politics now

Actually, they engage in investigating people who are suspected to be breaking the law.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

What's it like writing one thing and then in your next post disproving what you previously posted?

You do not think logically.

You validated Trump's low poll numbers by comparing them to your nemesis Obama at the same time in the previous administration after posting that polls are all made up.

It's like Trump saying that Obama's low unemployment numbers are fake and when Trump's same low unemployment numbers come out they're all of a sudden valid. Retarded

You people literally talk out of both ends and wonder why people don't believe anything you say and know that you have no integrity

You have no form of critical thought processing so I don't even know why I try....


The first quote is self-explanatory... Obama and Trumps approval rating are pretty much the same at the same time..

I've said all along polls were rigged. I even pointed out how they were being rigged on one site (538) right here on this board... I also said the same thing back then.... The provider of the call lists provides the end result within a very slim margin.... Whichever side or political lean is paying for the poll WILL get what they want to see... They have had to change their ways some (adopting internet polls into the averages)

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by astronaut x

Actually, they engage in investigating people who are suspected to be breaking the law.

So the conspiracy was just a one time thing?

No law enforcement person and/or group has ever been caught doing anything criminal right?

[bronco67]

While there may be individual agents with political bias (mostly conservative I assure you), that doesn't matter. What matters is that the FBI as a unit is indifferent to politics.

Republicans can go fuck themselves with this stupid bullshit. When Black Lives Matter complained about the feds not investigating local police for brutality, Republicans stood up for the FBI. When one of Trump's Russian spies gets caught being a traitor, then all of a sudden the FBI is the devil and must be purged. The FBI was (and still is) on Trump because he's a criminal.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So the conspiracy was just a one time thing?

No law enforcement person and/or group has ever been caught doing anything criminal right?

How did that pizza gate thing work out for ya? I remember how much you loved call me when he came out that press release about Clinton's email investigation, now you think all the FBI people are corrupt and evil Democrats lol it's amazing how quickly you change your mind to fit Putins talking points

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by bronco67

While there may be individual agents with political bias (mostly conservative I assure you), that doesn't matter. What matters is that the FBI as a unit is indifferent to politics.

Republicans can go fuck themselves with this stupid bullshit. When Black Lives Matter complained about the feds not investigating local police for brutality, Republicans stood up for the FBI. When one of Trump's Russian spies gets caught being a traitor, then all of a sudden the FBI is the devil and must be purged. The FBI was (and still is) on Trump because he's a criminal.

So when Mueller charges a bunch of Obama and Clinton people you are perfectly ok with eating crow right?

Because whats really happening is a slow release as to not shock the World.. Congress and the Senate have already done their Trump / Russia investigations and while those were going and wrapping up you had a few arrests from Trumps team.. Now the Hillary/Obama/Russia investigations begin... And just as before Mueller will be making arrests timed with those investigations..

Mueller has actually been in several situations like this before... Grant it not of this magnitude but real sticky situations for the government. That's why he was picked and also why no one is going to fuck with him.. Including Trump... He is known for being impartial. Meaning he will go after Republicans and Democrats alike no matter who they are.. BUT, he also has a history of protecting Washington..... You WILL see people go down for this FBI/DOJ shit.. 100% guaranteed. But he won't go as far as Obama or Trump.. I just won't happen. No matter how much you would like to see Trump go down or how I would like to see Obama go down. Both will walk away bruised and battered but that's it.. He isn't going to touch the President or ex-President.. If you go there you have to go everywhere, then you have every ex-President still alive locked up.. Hillary doesn't really have that protected status though.. Other than being Bills wife.. And quite honestly I'm pretty sure Slick Willy isn't going to put up much of a fight with the prospects of being a bachelor so she's on her own. Her future IS in question..

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

..now you think all the FBI people are corrupt and evil Democrats lol it's amazing how quickly you change your mind to fit Putins talking points

How does letting the people see the memo fit Putin's agenda? That's so dumb.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So when Mueller charges a bunch of Obama and Clinton people you are perfectly ok with eating crow right?

Because whats really happening is a slow release as to not shock the World.. Congress and the Senate have already done their Trump / Russia investigations and while those were going and wrapping up you had a few arrests from Trumps team.. Now the Hillary/Obama/Russia investigations begin... And just as before Mueller will be making arrests timed with those investigations..

Mueller has actually been in several situations like this before... Grant it not of this magnitude but real sticky situations for the government. That's why he was picked and also why no one is going to fuck with him.. Including Trump... He is known for being impartial. Meaning he will go after Republicans and Democrats alike no matter who they are.. BUT, he also has a history of protecting Washington..... You WILL see people go down for this FBI/DOJ shit.. 100% guaranteed. But he won't go as far as Obama or Trump.. I just won't happen. No matter how much you would like to see Trump go down or how I would like to see Obama go down. Both will walk away bruised and battered but that's it.. He isn't going to touch the President or ex-President.. If you go there you have to go everywhere, then you have every ex-President still alive locked up.. Hillary doesn't really have that protected status though.. Other than being Bills wife.. And quite honestly I'm pretty sure Slick Willy isn't going to put up much of a fight with the prospects of being a bachelor so she's on her own. Her future IS in question..

You're a dreamer. It should take you far in life. This shit you just wrote may as well include the adventures of Bilbo baggins.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by bronco67

You're a dreamer. It should take you far in life. This shit you just wrote may as well include the adventures of Bilbo baggins.

So what you're saying is, you will have to be force fed the crow? I have no problem with that.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So what you're saying is, you will have to be force fed the crow? I have no problem with that.

When was the last time you kissed a Gay man on the lips?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

When was the last time you kissed a Gay man on the lips?

Is that a threat?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Is that a threat?

Your Dad's here and showed me a pic of you two and I'm just wondering when he took it

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Your Dad's here and showed me a pic of you two and I'm just wondering when he took it faggot

Awww poor bladey's feewins are hurt.. Let me go ask my dads ashes on the shelf in front of me about that pic

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Awww poor bladey's feewins are hurt.. Let me go ask my dads ashes on the shelf in front of me about that pic

So you're saying your Dad's tongue was never in your mouth?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So you're saying your Dad's tongue was never in your mouth?

Really pushing the envelope tonight aren't you Blade? You want to go suicide or would you prefer Hillary's favorite, Arkancide? I'm not afraid to go there Pastor. You?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Apparently , they do engage in politics now

No, they don't. AT ALL.

Everyone involved here is Republican. Comey and the top three slots at the FBI are all Republicans, and the four judges involved in the FISA warrants were all Republicans or appointed by Republicans. Comey, just before the election, made an announcement about Hillary Clinton that most likely cost her the election - but oddly enough nothing about Trump's collusion with Russia.

Now the Republican party - the very party defined by "law and order" - is attacking the FBI and trying to discredit them. The FBI has done nothing wrong - nothing wrong at all. There is a process to get a FISA warrant, it was followed, and there was no wrong doing and no exceptions made. Anything Nunes says is false - they FISA warrant did in fact mention some of the information (SOME) came from a political source.

This is bat shit crazy. We had a dozen investigations into Hillary and not once did she attack the FBI or the Justice Department. Yet here we are with Nunes releasing "memos" which are notes about a FISA warrant he never even bothered to read.

The FBI is going to finish it's investigation and it's going to be nasty. During Watergate some twenty-two people were charged. If you think it's going to be anything different this time you are kidding yourself.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Really pushing the envelope tonight aren't you Blade? You want to go suicide or would you prefer Hillary's favorite, Arkancide? I'm not afraid to go there Pastor. You?

Honestly you've made many posts about your fantasies with me and my son so I assumed your Daddy violated you to make such trash cum out of your mouth Trump Supporter. You people are the most fucked-up disgusting people I've ever encountered online and IRL and you're all in such denial of what you said or did the day before.

You're not retards. Rather the basic method of fucking with people that was taught to you and that is to do one thing and say another and pretend like you didn't do or say the thing you did or said. It's so basic a retard like you can get it. Show us a pic of you so we know what you look like tonight.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Honestly you've made many posts about your fantasies with me and my son so I assumed your Daddy violated you to make such trash cum out of your mouth Trump Supporter. You people are the most fucked-up disgusting people I've ever encountered online and IRL and you're all in such denial of what you said or did the day before.

You're not retards. Gather basic method a fucking with people that was taught to you and that is to do one thing and say another and pretend like you didn't do or say the thing you did or said. It's do basic a retarded like you can get it. Show us a pic of you so we know what you look like tonight.

If you're going to make accusations you best be able to back them up. You're inching closer to Arkancide. Best choose the other route because I will not stop until you are laying dead and bloodied.. May want to think about your next move. In the meantime go find the posts you mention. If you can't find them (you won't) then I suggest you move the fuck on to someone else because I ain't playing your little games.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

If you're going to make accusations you best be able to back them up. You're inching closer to Arkancide. Best choose the other route because I will not stop until you are laying dead and bloodied..

^^^ Fake nic

You're such a sucker!!!

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

^^^ Fake nic

You're such a sucker!!!

I assume that's your white flag? Pastor Fag?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I assume that's your white flag? Pastor Fag?

You're obsessed with me. Move on. Your Dad would proud.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

If the FBI broke the law in an effort to stop Trump from being elected they should be, at a minimum, terminated and at a maximum charged with what ever law they broke and brought before the Court.

If some members did in fact break the law I expect this will happen.

At some point, they have to come up with charges or explain why they spent so much time and money with nothing to show.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Why do you think that some, I suspect most, in the FBI would want to try to stop the Donald from becoming President? I think it is because of the same reason the majority of Americans did not want him to be elected to the office in the first place and whom now, overwhelmingly do not support him at all.

Those in the FBI know even more so than the average person does that he is not in the least qualified to be President. The FBI are much better informed about the idiot man child that he really is than us the public and even us the public are aware of that fact.

The then head of the FBI virtually installed Trump in the White House when he said he was opening an investigation into Clinton (again) two weeks before the election.

If there was ever a move that had massive political ramifications it was this. Then 3 days later the fool declared the investigation complete with no wrong doing found (again). In the meantime Trump and his cronies chant "lock her up", and Trumps "Crooked Hilary" mantra sweeps the internet.

Jesus if Comey had simply completed his investigation before insinuating illegal acts had been committed by one of the riders in a two horse race this thread would not even exist. Comey gave credence to all of Trumps wildest claims about the honesty of his opponent only to take it back soon after when the damage was done. WTF was he thinking ?

Now Trump has the audacity to claim the FBI is working against him. Fucking priceless.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

At some point, they have to come up with charges or explain why they spent so much time and money with nothing to show.

They do not "have" to come up with charges, but of course they have already came up with charges, against several people, and of course they would not in any case have to explain why they spent so much time and money.

Your elevator does not quite go to the top and never has about any subject that I am aware of.