2MuchMark

I'm starting to think that Russia has something much worse on Trump than pee-time with Russian hookers.

I wonder what it could be?

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I think what Putin has over Trump is the actual collusion.

Brian mike

Donald the mastermind have fucked up Allies trade before Meeting with Putin.
What was discuss in this room is more to do with the After Trump Presidency interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busine...rump_in_Russia

Me Think Donald Trump Making Moves for his Own Agenda and not as Leader of the Free World. IMHO

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in a 2014 golf digest interview Eric Trump spoke about how they got their financing thru Russia because Us banks wanting nothing to do with their father. I think yesterday, scared the shit out of the GOP,they have to think about the future. They got what they needed from him, lower taxes and the supreme court. I bet they run someone against in the primaries. Does he have fans yes but there a shit ton more of conservatives, that want him gone.

tony286

No doubt but this is what happens when you put a business guy in, who is questionable at best. You give him a license to steal with both hands.

2MuchMark

Nah there's nore to it than that because think about when all this started.

A few years ago Trump and family were in Russia for Miss Universe. I'm thinking maybe something really, really bad happened - Something more than banging a couple of models. It must be something really huge....

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BaldBastard

I don't want to buy into your conspiracy theory... but what the hell.

For control of a guy like Trump... It would have to be.. "The Ivanka tapes" and I bet they have many, shes been in Russia and on Russian private boats for weekends.. many , many times. Surly she bonked someone somewhere.

RedFred

You very well could be right, and I thought the same for a long time. But think about this, what could Putin have on Trump that would be more damaging than coming out and saying 'yea we fucked with your election and Trump knew about it and helped us' (which is more likely than not true). It probably is the only thing that could bring Trump down, anything else the republicans would ignore and Trump would survive. But who knows, there's probably 10 different things.

CaptainHowdy

Theory is such a big word for this sort of matters . . .

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It seems a lot of their finances depended on Russia.... Or all of it.

This might have been a long term investment by Russia into Donald Trump. There was discussions about Trump running for President decades ago. There is a interview where he said he would make a great President. Even if he never ran, Trump was well known, and had met and or was friends with a lot of influential government members - Presidents, Secretaries Of State, Congressmen, Senators, and so on... It makes sense that Russia would try to get Trump to work with them. Once they decided to do this, they started investing money into him. It seems that a lot of Russians spent a lot of money on Trump's condos, yet no one seems to know who they are. Didn't Trump buy a house in Florida on the cheap from a Russian, and then sold it at a huge profit to yet another Russian?

Let's just assume this is true... Then they have Trump on video tape working for the Russians. It's simple. They fly into NY or his hotel in Florida, set up a video camera, have a discussion with him about how much money they can loan him, and what they want from him in return. Now he is being blackmailed.

Normally I don't believe in this kind of stuff. But something isn't right here, and there is way too many connections to Russians.

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They have Trump secretly filmed getting a BJ from Ivanka and/or him fucking her

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A post which perfectly characterizes the state of mind of people on the Left and people like you and ********** which is causing so many to abandon Democrats today. You are a truly disgusting human being.

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2MuchMark

I tend not to be a conspiracy guy...

But if Ivanka bonked some others, it wouldn't really affect him. But lets say she did. Who could she have bonked that Donald would do anything to keep it a secret? Vlad? Not even I don't think...

I hear you, but I think this started much earlier...

I'm thinking that Vlad went to Chump and said "Komrad, we have a recording of you doing this terrible thing", but don't worry. Do our bidding and we will keep your secret". Spashing in Pee doesn't sound like it would be enough to control him.

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These are the people complaining about onwebcam conspiracies?

LMAO!

PR_Glen

so you believe your nation shouldn't have an opposition any longer?

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Maybe they found out he posts here. Neither the dems or repubs support porn.

thommy

what MORE do you need as what is on the table already?

do you really think that trump blames putin in front of the world to meddle into the elections and risks to get the answer: yes but you was begging for it ????

on the other side the trump empire is founded by russian money. do you think he would risk to lose a merrily bubbling source of money ?

and don´t forget that he received this money already before he was going for the POTUS - he was not really important and he would not get it for free.
so he was in that dirt already long time ago and if one in this world knows it it is putin.

and because putin knew all that dirty secrets and because he knows that trump is not only an idiot but under his full control there was nothing better for putin as let him be the president.

the biggest problem putin and his predecessors had in all the decades was the unity of the west and NATO and the economic power of a gigantic USA plus the EU, which has formed a large and strong economic power from many small and economically less important countries into one big unit.

with the help of his puppet trump, putin has managed to question all this in less than 1.5 years. and he will continue to do everything to ensure that conflicts near europe not only take place but also that the USA has an economic interest in it and will intervene to fuel these conflicts even more.

putin knows that every new refugee who then flees to the EU fuels the situation and turns the EU into a hodgepodge.
and he hopes that this will break up the EU and single countries will no longer be able to act together and strongly towards Russia.

he is a fucking great strategist and he knows exactly how to use the dumbs for his goals.

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8pt-buck

Conspiracy theory's - Let me jump on in.

Maybe it's none of the above.

Maybe this is Trumps way of saying screw Europe and NATO without verbally saying it.
Perhaps Trump wants the EU to break ties with the US by their own choice. Trump knows he cant do it on his own.
Why else would he attempt to humiliate every one of our allies who Trump feels is ripping off the United States to begin with.

dyna mo

Poor little ole europe, responsible for 2 world wars, 10s of millions of murders, and worldwide destruction is always the victim.

read it here:

2MuchMark

I don't know...

It just seems a little strange. The absolute worst thing we have heard about him is that he may have had a piss party with Russian Hookers. But think about it? Is that bad enough to cause a man who already had everything, to cause all of this mahem?

Let's say it came out that you had a pee party. Would anyone here care? Sure they might laugh at you and maybe your wife would leave you which would be devastating, but really that would be it.

If Melania divorced trump he would have to pay her what... $500 Million? A Billion? Let' be generous and say half of what he claims to have which would be $5 Billion. So what? He'd still have half his money, he's still be making ugly buildings and embarrassing himself daily...

If the Pee tapes came out now, it wouldn't hurt him much. The world pretty much believes they exist, and there are endless jokes about it. The damage has already been done to him as far as this goes.

So the question is, what could he still be hiding if not the golden splashy-splash video?

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thommy

you ask why ?

the answer is: because he is an narcissistic idiot who don´t knows what he is doing.

he change his face every day - change his mind every minute and thinks that the world will jump when he orders.

no - this will not happen and i tell you what: it will NEVER happen again in the future because the US has proven untrustworthy voters and an even more untrustworthy election system what makes such a catastrophe possible at any time.

from now on you have to say good bye to "america first" because you lost already all of them who let you be that for decades and won only the ones who want to destroy your country.

THIS is from now on your future and even when you can not see it now you will see it soon when your economy breaks in pieces.

2 days ago all right wing nut-heads have been ready to nuke russia and now when you clown licked putin´s ass he is your friend.
2 days ago trump called germany an enemy and now he talks about a competition in gas and oil delivery between Russia and USA (what was clear already for everybody with 10 braincells BEFORE trump met putin).

so if russia is your friend now are we allowed to trade with your friends ???
or are they morphing to be enemies in case we do that?

this guy is a pure comedy. he does not know what he is doing and what he is talking about. but it is as it is and the price americans will have to pay for it will be FUCKING high.

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dyna mo

thommy gives germany a free pass for Volkswagon audi, mb et al german car makers polluting the world and the EU leaders who give them a free pass to continue doing so.

thommy also gives germany a free pass for bailing out on its Paris Climate Accord promises.

that's the only way he figured out how he can spew his hate.

crockett

This is what I said at the start and I think it's what will come out. The Booker story is very real, but it was underage girls.

Trump wouldn't get blackmailed over just some hookers. Not when its known he's had multiple affairs with paid pornstars who were essentially working as hookers .

Hookers are no big deal, because he's been there before and he dumb dumb base excuses it away.. I mean hell I could care less if he had hookers or they peed on some bed.. who gives a shit .

Hookers alone are not blackmail material because he clearly doesn't give a shit what his wife thinks and his religious cult will excuse it away anyway.

It's more than hookers its gonna be 13 year old girls who were forced to do it. That's blackmail material that would destroy him.

Added to this, he's laundered money or taken illegal loans.. that's also shit that can ruin him..

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Grrrrr.. GFY needs to fix this site for mobile users .. it doesn't keep me logged in so I can't edit my post to fix typos...

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I like you, Ross. You've always been reasonable. You also helped me once in 2009 or so, with a pimproll issue and I appreciated it. I seriously have no idea what the above means?

But i can clarify some things about what my beliefs are

1) I know i'm Conservative.
2) I know that political bias colors my perspective on events.
3) I don't particularly care about politics or arguing politics.
4) What fascinates me more are the irrational behaviors of all involved.
5) I don't think Trump is good. I don't think Trump is bad. I don't think Trump is right. I don't think Trump is wrong. I just don't believe it matters.

What I personally believe in is the overall balance which naturally tends to occur. Though someone biased towards the liberal point of view would never agree, I would simply say that Trump is the polar opposite of Obama. Obama was the polar opposite of Bush. Bush one was the polar opposite of Clinton. Clinton was the polar opposite of Reagan and so on and so on and so on. There's nothing unexpected either in personalities or behaviors.

Following Trump will be... of course, someone believed to be the polar opposite of Trump.

Of course there should be opposition. That leads to discussion and debate.

But we don't have that anymore and your Canadian colleges as well as Europeans are just as big a part of the problem as anyone with the non-stop hysteria. Of course everyone was all too happy when "Their guy" won a Nobel Peace Prize in spite of having done nothing at all and who shortly after stepped up airstrikes, drone attacks and the wiping out of Pakistani and Afghani wedding parties.

Opposition is not "hysterical ranting and raving". Opposition was intended to be "here's a better plan" or "your plan lacks XY and Z but here is how we can make it better". Thats the primary benefit of opposition.

We don't have that anymore. Europeans. European media. Canadians. Canadian media and nearly all US media are driving the world right off a cliff with non stop biased news coverage as they draw their final breaths, succumbing to the internet and the fact that they no longer have a monopoly on "the truth". They have to head more and more down the path of catering to the fringe with sensationalistic bullshit rather than just tell the truth.

Remember what jounalism used to be Glen? Remember when all they had was their credibility? Remember all the talk of ethics? Remember how they used to be detectives, risking their lives to report the truth? We haven't had that since Obama came into office. Now, we have dickheads like a CNN anchor (Acosta) heckling Kim Jung Un and Trump as they discuss ending the Korean war.

(SIDE NOTE: Fox News has subtly changed their formatting to capitalize on this new reality. They don't say "fair and balanced" and when they have panels, they balance it out with conservative/liberal voices)... and they're quietly destroying CNN and MSNBC as they pursue the path of chasing a shrinking viewership by pumping out more and more emotionally charged bs each day). I mean, Fox News is literally crushing MSNBC and CNN right now by dialing back the rhetoric and actually reporting the news as it should be reported. Check the ratings)

Look at the front of GFY. Look all the stupid threads hating "Trump". Is the intent to come up with a better way? A better plan? A consensus on a better path forward?

Of course not.

It looks like the behavior of a spoiled 13 year old girl whos always got her way and then suddenly had her phone taken away.

And here's a simple test of where we're at.

You can tell me right now, 1,000,000 reasons to hate Trump.
You can't tell me right now, what the Democratic platform is. What they stand for. What legislation they're proposing for their constituents. Who the likely candidate will be for 2020. You can't name a single legislative achievement.

To me, it's that gross imbalance that is the problem.

It's the vocal minority, acting like children and doing so with the full complicity of the media that is the problem.

It's that gross neglect of what matters in favor of name calling and non stop petty "I didn't get what I wanted in 2016, so I'm willing to burn the country and everyone in it to the ground" behavior.


I'm personally fine at this point with saying "You know what?! We're out. No UN, no NATO,... no embassies and bases, No aid. No loans. No helping refugees. No more immigrants unless you have a degree and $250,000.00 USD in your packet (similar to Australia) We'll just fortify our own border and the whole world can fuck off".

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If the Russians call his loans, he wont be able to pay........ That's called leverage !

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Trump changes his words : I meant to say "I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia behind election meddling".
I said the word Would instead of Wouldn't.

Give him a A for attempted damage control. I don't think Trump wanted to do today's interview - His handlers forced him to do it with that bullshit his writers advised him to read. I think Trump is better off forgetting yesterday and today and moving on to something else.

Still a Trump supporter but yesterday was crazy and today's damage control was even more crazy.

Acepimp

More democrat fantasies based on ZERO evidence!

In case anyone missed the BOMBSHELL that Putin dropped at the press conference:

Putin Claims U.S. Intelligence Agents Funneled $400 Million To Clinton Campaign

^^ Putin is referring to Bill Browder, a long time friend of Hillary's. Their fathers even knew each other in Chicago. But wait, there's more!

Jim Comey was named to Bill Browder's HSBC Board of Directors, a Russian-based hedgefund scam

Putin offered to help investigate the 12 Russians who were indicted- IF the US helps investigate the 1.5 billion that Browder made in Russia, without paying taxes, and then funneled 400M to the Hillary campaign.

No wonder the Dems wanted Trump to cancel the meeting!!!!!!!

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Dude, sick!

...but ok! That is one thing that would definitely destroy him.


Not a conspiracy thread per se... just a "what is going on?" thread.


What's the Booker story again? Sorry, I'm drawing a blank...

Right?


Exactly. He's already been caught fucking around. So what if he likes kinky stuff like Russian Pee. If this came out now, the worst people could say is "I knew it".


That's right! So what the hell is going on?

Yes that would do it.

Maybe but I don't think so. It's already a given that he's done this. And if he was convicted of this, it wouldn't change anything at this point... or at least not change much.

ok, but then what? "Sorry, I'm broke". What else would happen?


I can understand if you got caught up in the excitement of Trump during his campaign. But how can you still support him now after yesterday, and after everything that you now know about him?

It's ok to change your mind you know... I've done it in the past....

Just because you don't believe the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Try harder.

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Booker = hooker was a typo but was on my cell and gfy now fucks up for mobile and wont let you stay logged in to edit.

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Right - filled with made-up theories involving some pretty sick shit - a certain individual really should see a professional ASAP.

But onwebcam is the crazy conspiracy loon according to those people?

Classic.

thommy

this is not anymore funny what you guys are fighting about.

if he said would or wouldn´t does not play ANY role.
he admits there was meddling and this is what is all about.

how can an election what is manipulated be valid ?

the same thing I have to ask about the BREXIT. how can such a vote what was flooded with false information and lies be valid?

I would not be surprised when there will be another brexit voting same as I would not be surprised when the reps will lose all the power in USA at the midterms.

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thommy

true - I think this is a bit ore than the 800 million he didn´t pay back to Deutsche Bank
because another one of his GREAT IDEAS went bankrupt.
and i don´t even want to know how many more are in this waiting line.

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Rochard

What is this story about underage hookers? Link?

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2MuchMark

Oh. sorry..!

But its not just Mobile. GFY keeps pestering me for my password all the time. Good thing its pencil because thats so easy to remember. #Trumptrain!

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Acepimp

What evidence, Mark? Please be specific. The DNC refused to let the FBI look at the "hacked" server. Where is the server, Mark?

The intel agencies have presented no evidence of Russia hacking into the DNC or Podesta's emails. Was there evidence of "meddling"? Sure, they bought some Facebook ads for pro-Trump pages AND for Anti-Trump pages, even going as far as to organize large anti-Trump rallies.

Michael Moore participated in anti-Trump rally allegedly organized by Russians

So once again, Mark- what evidence are you referring to??

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dyna mo

now that's a funny one!

MaDalton

this is so fucking funny that still people fight to defend him - imagine Obama had done something like that, the GOP and all their lunatics would explode

there is nothing rational anymore that explains this behaviour, it's more like collective infatuation

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I think somebody shit in Trump's mouth...and they have the video...

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are you still sticking up for your pussy president?????


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/679803...meeting-memes/


the guy´s a fucking joke

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^^^ And here is an example of someone who's been duped by the hysterical fake news media. Russia is the world's other nuclear super-power. It is wise to talk to them and have peaceful relations with them. True or false?

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directfiesta

It is pretty crazy ... The USA are really fucked up ...

I am concerned , as I spend some time in Florida and intended to spend more as I am near retirement ...

Will start looking in selling and buying some where else ...

I know, alt-right, I won't let the door hit me on my way out , but I will slam it in your face

dyna mo

in what way?

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If you can't argue without changing the subject, there's no point talking to you. Try harder and focus, or stfu.

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flashfire

I hope you are trolling...you can't actually be this stupid

Anyone still supporting Trump after his "I meant to say wouldn't not would" is a fucking moron

Putin offered to help investigate lol...