2MuchMark

It's about goddam time!


https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/06/tec...nes/index.html

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Acepimp

Because stating facts is considered "hate speech." Mark is against free speech and open platforms for all ideas.

The left has always been the party of censorship and oppression.

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Bladewire

Freedom of speech does not equal freedom of hate speech or freedom of sexual speech on platforms.

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nico-t

so who decides what hate speech is? Now they just slap the hate speech label on someone they want to silence. Which is highly selective and a highly questionable form of censorship. Which goes against any western society that has freedom of speech as one of the most important laws and cornerstones of said society.

But because these are corporations, they can make the rules. Whether it is a totalitarian type of rule aimed to silence particular points of view because they want to push a one sided echo chamber doesn't matter, because they can do what they want. That doesn't make it any less disgusting, scary and dictatorial though.

Rochard

He was also kicked from Apple and Spotify.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but hate speech is another. He is inciting violence at this point.

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BaldBastard

I'd presume with a website, the TOS does, break it, lose your account.. what's new?

Social media is private companies not some public space.

Jones has his own site let him take full legal liability on his own turf.

MaDalton

what he said

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nico-t

Who is the judge of that? Why don't you give an example of him inciting violence? No out of context bits please. Thanks.

crockett

I can't wait until the red hats all boycott facebook..

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tony286

people forget , free speech is protect you from the government not companies. They can do what ever they want.

Bladewire

They really need to go full force and boycott the internet

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This should get interesting real quick. Democrats are flaunting their communist side out in the great wide open.

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celandina

Quite so, he is a nut case but I would defend his right to his speech....Facebook at al should be boycotted...

RedFred

You sold this country out to the biggest communist on the planet. Fuck off.

Acepimp

Where do you get this stuff? You really believe the dumbest shit imaginable, it's hilarious

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Bladewire

Trump supporters say they'd rather be Russian than Democrat so problem solved.

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nico-t

^^^ exactly.

wehateporn

Even the BBC News front page is reporting this, that is a lot of publicity for InfoWars, and the majority of the people do not like censorship, this is hugely beneficial for InfoWars

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2MuchMark

Your powers are weak old man... !


Maybe they'll go one-step further and boycott the Internet!

ThatswhatIsaidgoddammitgllacckk!


I would defend his right to free speech too... but I think he's gone overboard.




You are probably right.

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nico-t

So why do you like censorship?

Rochard

You are kidding me right?

Alex Jones is currently being sued for claiming Sandy Hook was fake and that the parents of children killed were actors. The parents - who lost their children - are being stalked by people who believe Alex Jones.

Alex Jones also supported Pizza Gate, where someone went into a pizza place armed with a rifle to rescue children being molested in a basement that didn't exist.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ting-pizzagate

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He'll have a info wars youtube marathon. He'll be crying, asking for money, and telling people to buy shit from his store.

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Bladewire

Facebook is a business.

Facebook should be forced to pay for his video bandwidth if they don't want to.

the government is hiding behind businesses to censor people in America the same in other countries it's really the government that is allowing the censorship of people and using businesses is the front to do it which is wrong. but in America a business has a right to refuse service to people.

20-30 years from now social platforms will be government-owned, even sooner than that they'll be heavily regulated by the FCC, but for now, they are businesses with the right to refuse service to anyone.

nico-t

Give me an actual example of him inciting violence please, the man made tons of videos so you must have an actual example video of him literally drumming up people to be actively violent. You didn't do that in the above situations you generally outlined - however crazy his stories might be he doesn't incite violence. There's always crazy people listening and interpreting things crazy - hence they're crazy.

For example celebrities who are always in the media. People watch them daily, and some weirdos think they have a real connection with these celebs and stalk them. Are these celebrities inciting stalking?

Your 1984 mind is alarming.

Bladewire

He's not your internet research monkey.

You never give links to anything.

And after he shows you proof you're just going to ignore it like you always do you always waste people's time like that with bullshit when they prove you wrong you just disappear like a whiny little bitch

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bitte schön...

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Tasty1

Damn, i saw many movies that had more conspiracy theories than that nutcase Alex jones. About civil wars, 911, red pills, about presidents. Let's all forbid those movies and documentaries before people think they are all real.

saw also some muslim and christian preachers saying the end is near and that some people must burn in Hell. Can we also boycot some politicians who spread hate, like Iranian politicians, Erdogan and many many more?

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nico-t

Thanks, here is the video that article is about:


I don't have time to watch it now but since you know he is inciting violence in this video, you probably have the time stamp ready. Thanks!

Bladewire

First Facebook now YouTube

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Leftwing groups are trying to bankrupt him via lawsuits.. The left once again using victims for political purposes..

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Bladewire

You're lying again.

Parents of killed children are suing him for defamation, and rightfully so, Alex Jones lied and said they were actors.

remember when you lied before on gfy and you said that the children that died at Sandy Hook were actors and their parents were actors and none of them really died you fucking piece of shit? that's what Alex Jones is being sued for the same lying bullshit that you do on here everyday all day.

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4/16/2018 10:16 AMVelva L. Price
District Clerk Travis County
D-1-GN-18-001835 Selina Hamilton
IN DISTRICT COURT OF TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS
PLAINTIFF’S ORIGINAL PETITION AND REQUEST FOR DISCLOSURE
Plaintiff NEIL HESLIN files this original petition against Defendants, ALEX JONES, INFOWARS, LLC, FREE SPEECH SYSTEMS, LLC, and OWEN SHROYER, and alleges as follows:
DISCOVERY CONTROL PLAN
1. Plaintiff intends to seek a customized discovery control plan under Level 3 of Texas Rule of Civil Procedure 190.4.
PARTIES
2. Plaintiff Neil Heslin in an individual residing in the State of Connecticut.
3. Defendant Alex E. Jones is a resident of Austin, Texas. He is the host of
radio and web-based news programing, including “The Alex Jones Show,” and he owns and operates the website InfoWars.com. Mr. Jones can be served at his place of business, InfoWars, 3019 Alvin Devane Blvd., Suite 300-350, Austin, TX 78741.
CAUSE NO. _____________
NEIL HESLIN, § Plaintiff § § VS. § § ALEX E. JONES, INFOWARS, LLC, § FREE SPEECH SYSTEMS, LLC, and § OWEN SHROYER, § Defendants §
261ST
D-1-GN-18-001835
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4. Defendant InfoWars, LLC is a Texas limited liability company with principal offices located in Austin, Texas. It may be served at the address of its attorney, Eric Taube, at 100 Congress Avenue, 18th Floor, Austin, TX 78701.
5. Defendant Free Speech Systems, LLC is a Texas limited liability company with principal offices located in Austin, Texas. It may be served at the address of its registered agent, Eric Taube, at 100 Congress Avenue, 18th Floor, Austin, TX 78701.
6. Defendant Owen Shroyer is an individual residing in Travis County. At all times relevant to this suit, Mr. Daniels has been a reporter for InfoWars. Mr. Shroyer can be served at the address of his employer, InfoWars, 3019 Alvin Devane Blvd., Suite 300-350, Austin, TX 78741.
JURISDICTION & VENUE
7. The damages sought in this case exceed the minimum jurisdictional limits of Travis County District Courts.
8. Venue is proper in Travis County, Texas, because a suit for damages for defamation may be brought in the county in which a defendant resided at the time of filing, or the domicile of any corporate defendant, at the election of the plaintiff. See Tex. Civ. Prac. & Rem. Code §15.017.
FACTUAL BACKGROUND
9. Plaintiff Neil Heslin is the father of deceased minor J.L., a victim of the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting.
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10. This case arises out of accusations by InfoWars in the summer of 2017 that Plaintiff was lying about whether he actually held his son’s body and observed a bullet hole in his head. This heartless and vile act of defamation re-ignited the Sandy Hook “false flag” conspiracy and tore open the emotional wounds that Plaintiff has tried so desperately to heal.
11. This conspiracy theory, which has been pushed by InfoWars and Mr. Jones since the day of the shooting, alleges that the Sandy Hook massacre did not happen, or that it was staged by the government and concealed using actors, and that the parents of the victims are participants in a horrifying cover-up.
12. During the June 18, 2017 profile of Jones for her NBC show Sunday Night with Megyn Kelly, Ms. Kelly interviewed Plaintiff about the claims made by Jones in the past, including that “the whole thing was fake” and “a giant hoax.”1 Addressing this hateful lie, Plaintiff told Kelly, “I lost my son. I buried my son. I held my son with a bullet hole through his head.”2
13. On June 26, 2017, InfoWars’ broadcast featured a segment hosted by reporter Owen Shroyer in which Shroyer claimed to have reviewed evidence showing it was impossible for Plaintiff to have held his son and see his injury.
14. During the broadcast, Shroyer said, “The statement [Plaintiff] made, fact-checkers on this have said cannot be accurate. He’s claiming that he held his son
1 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...lex_jones.html 2 Id.
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and saw the bullet hole in his head. That is his claim. Now, according to a timeline of events and a coroner’s testimony, that is not possible.”3
15. As support for these defamatory statements, Shroyer played video footage where the local medical examiner informed reporters that the slain students were initially identified using photographs rather than in person.
16. Shroyer also stated, “You would remember if you held your dead kid in your hands with a bullet hole. That’s not something you would just misspeak on.”4
17. Stroyer continued by stating that Plaintiff was “making a pretty extreme claim that would be a very thing vivid in your memory, holding his dead child.”5
18. “The conspiracy theorists on the internet out there have a lot of questions are that are yet to be answered. You say whatever you want about the event, that’s just a fact.”6
19. At the conclusion of his report, Shroyer stated, “Will there be a clarification from Heslin or Megyn Kelly? I wouldn’t hold your breath. [Laugh]. So now they’re fueling the conspiracy theory claims. Unbelievable.”7

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20. The underlying point or gist of Shroyer’s report is that Plaintiff’s version “is not possible” and “cannot be accurate,” and that Plaintiff was lying about the circumstances of his son’s tragic death for a nefarious and criminal purpose.
3 https://www.infowars.com/zero-hedge-...nes-hit-piece/ 4 Id.
5 Id.
6 Id.
7 Id.
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21. Shroyer’s report was manifestly false. In addition, a minimal amount of research would have caused any competent journalist not to publish the defamatory accusation. According to contemporary news accounts, the bodies of the victims were released from the medical examiner into the custody of the families.8 Funerals where the children’s bodies were in the custody of their parents were widely reported on by the press.9
22. On July 20, InfoWars programming featured a segment hosted by Alex Jones in which Shroyer’s report was re-broadcast in full. When introducing the segment, Jones demanded that Plaintiff “clarify” what actually happened.
23. After showing the segment, Jones said he told Shroyer, “I could never find out. The stuff I found was they never let them see their bodies. That’s kind of what’s weird about this. But maybe they did. So I’m sure it’s all real. But for some reason they don’t want you to see [Shroyer’s segment].”10
24. Regarding the Sandy Hook shooting, Jones said, “Can I prove that New Haven [sic] didn’t happen? No. So I’ve said, for years, we’ve had debates about it, that I don’t know. But you can’t blame people for asking.”11
25. Mr. Jones was lying. In the five years following the tragedy, he has repeatedly and unequivocally called the Sandy Hook shooting a hoax.
8 https://patch.com/connecticut/newtow...chool-shooting
9 ABC News ? Breaking News, Latest News, Headlines & Videos https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...sacre-victims- begin/2012/12/17/ffd0a130-486d-11e2-820e-17eefac2f939_story.html?utm_term=.0ccbbb4af100
10 https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...fy-whether-he- actually-held-his-son-s-body-and-saw-bullet-hole/217333
11 Id.
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BACKGROUND TO INFOWARS’ 2017 DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS
26. In order to appreciate the full defamatory impact and the extent of the mental anguish caused by InfoWars’ 2017 statements, it is necessary to understand InfoWars’ long history of harassing the Sandy Hook parents with defamatory lies. InfoWars’ 2017 statements are but the latest in a series of false, hurtful, and dangerous assertions about Plaintiff and the parents of the other victims.
27. In 2013, Jones called the shooting “staged” and said, “It’s got inside job written all over it.”12
28. In March 2014, Jones said, “Folks, we’ve got video of Anderson Cooper with clear blue-screen out there. [Shaking head]. He’s not there in the town square. We got people clearly coming up and laughing and then doing the fake crying. We’ve clearly got people where it’s actors playing different parts for different people, the building bulldozed, covering up everything. Adam Lanza trying to get guns five times we’re told. The witnesses not saying it was him...I’ve looked at it and undoubtedly, there’s a cover-up, there’s actors, they’re manipulating, they’ve been caught lying, and they were pre-planning before it and rolled out with it.”13
29. In May 2014, InfoWars published an article titled: “CONNECTICUT TRIES TO HIDE SANDY HOOK TRUTH.”14
12 https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...govt-is-prime- su/193635; https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/c...ones-20130409- sandyhook
13 https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/c...40314-shooting 14 https://www.infowars.com/connecticut...dy-hook-truth/
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30. In September 2014, InfoWars published an article titled: “FBI SAYS NO ONE KILLED AT SANDY HOOK.”15
31. In December 2014, Jones said on his radio program, “The whole thing is a giant hoax. How do you deal with a total hoax? It took me about a year, with Sandy Hook, to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. I did deep research.”16
32. In the same December 2014 broadcast, Jones continued: “The general public doesn’t know the school was actually closed the year before. They don’t know they’ve sealed it all, demolished the building. They don’t know that they had the kids going in circles in and out of the building as a photo-op. Blue screen, green screens, they got caught using.”17
33. Jones made similar comments in January 2015, stating on InfoWars: “You learn the school had been closed and re-opened. And you’ve got video of the kids going in circles, in and out of the building, and they don’t call the rescue choppers for two hours, and then they tear the building down, and seal it. And they get caught using blue-screens, and an email by Bloomberg comes out in a lawsuit, where he’s telling his people get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on a shooting. Yeah, so Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured. I couldn’t believe it at first. I knew they had actors there, clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids. And it just shows how bold they are
15 https://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no...at-sandy-hook/
16 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...lex_jones.html 17 https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/c...1228-sandyhook
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that they clearly used actors. I mean they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey, or Pakistan. The sky is now the limit.”18
34. Mr. Jones’ statement about Pakistan refers to a conspiracy theory Jones helped spread involving deceased minor child N.P., a Sandy Hook victim whose photograph appeared at vigil for children slain a school attack in Peshawar. On the day of the Peshawar incident, a Pakistani woman created a collage of photographs of young people killed in school attacks and posted it to Facebook with the caption “They Went to School and Never Came Back.”19 Because the Peshawar shooting occurred very close to the anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre, she included a picture of a child from the latter event, along with pictures of Peshawar victims.20 That collage was then printed out and cut up into the individual photographs displayed by mourners at a vigil for the Peshawar victims.21
35. In the same month, January of 2015, InfoWars published an article titled: “MYSTERY: SANDY HOOK VICTIM DIES (AGAIN) IN PAKISTAN.”22 The article states: “A large-scale attack on a school in Peshawar, Pakistan, last month left 132 school children and 10 teachers dead. Among the alleged victims emerged the familiar face of [deceased minor N.P.], one of the children supposedly killed in the December 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.” InfoWars’
18 https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/c...50113-shooting 19 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/info-boors/
20 Id.
21 Id.
22 https://www.infowars.com/mystery-san...n-in-pakistan/ 8

story was meant to reinforce Mr. Jones’ persistent lie that N.P. and the other victims of the shooting, such as Plaintiff’s son J.L., are not real.
36. In July 2015, Mr. Jones stated on InfoWars: “But you’ve got green- screen with Anderson Cooper, where I was watching the video, and the flower and plants were blowing in some of them, and then they blow again the same way. It’s looped. And then his nose disappears. I mean, it’s fake. The whole thing is...I don’t know what happened. It’s kind of like if you see a hologram at Disney World in the Haunted House. You know? I don’t know how they do it, but it’s not real. When you take your kids to see the Haunted House and ghosts are flying around, it’s not real, folks. It’s staged. I mean, a magician grabs a rabbit out of his hat. I know he’s got a box under the table that he reaches in and gets the rabbit. I don’t know what the trick is here. I’ve got a good suspicion. But when you’ve got Wolfgang Halbig...He believed it was real. People called him. He went and investigated. No paperwork, no nothing. It’s bull. And now an FBI retired agent, who retired, you know, with decorations. I mean, [InfoWars reporter Rob] Dew, this unprecedented.”23
37. In the same month, InfoWars published an article titled: “MEGA MASSIVE COVER UP: RETIRED FBI AGENT INVESTIGATES SANDY HOOK.”24

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38. In January of 2016, Florida resident Lucy Richards left threatening voicemail messages and sent violent emails to Leonard Pozner, a fellow Sandy Hook parent and personal friend of Plaintiff Neil Heslin. The threats included messages
23 https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/c...50707-shooting 24 https://www.infowars.com/mega-massiv...es-sandy-hook/
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stating: “you gonna die, death is coming to you real soon” and “LOOK BEHIND YOU IT IS DEATH.”25 When Richards was later sentenced, Senior U.S. District Judge James Cohn stated: “I'm sure [Leonard Pozner] wishes this was false, and he could embrace [N.P.], hear [N.P.’s] heartbeat and hear [N.P.] say ‘I love you, Dad’...Your words were cruel and insensitive. This is reality and there is no fiction. There are no alternative facts.”26 As part of her sentence, Ms. Richards will not be permitted to access a list of conspiracy-based websites upon her release, including InfoWars.27 Ms. Richard’s arrest and sentencing are an ominous reminder to the Plaintiff of the danger posed by InfoWars’ continuing lies about Sandy Hook.
39. In November 2016, Mr. Jones appeared on InfoWars and ranted about false Sandy Hook claims for twenty minutes.28
40. During the November 2016 video broadcast, Mr. Jones stated: “That shows some kind of cover-up happening. And then I saw Anderson Cooper -- I’ve been in TV for twenty-something years, I know a blue-screen or a green-screen -- turn and his nose disappeared. Then I saw clearly that they were using footage on the green-screen looped, because it would show flowers and other things during other broadcasts that were moving, and then basically cutting to the same piece of
25 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...against-sandy- hook-parent-n693396
26 Page Not Found 1.3229754
27 https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoer...-threatening-a 28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwudDfz1yAk
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footage...Then we see footage of one of the reported fathers of the victims, Robbie Parker, doing classic acting training.”29
41. The gist of these statements was that the Sandy Hook parents, including Plaintiff Neil Heslin, are participating in a sinister manipulation plan to fool the public.
42. During the November 2016 broadcast, Jones played video footage of Anderson Cooper interviewing Sandy Hook parent Veronique De La Rosa, at which point Jones stated: “We point out clear chromakey, also known as blue-screen or greenscreen being used, and we’re demonized. We point out that they’re clearly doing fake interviews.”30 This false statement was likewise used to support Mr. Jones’ vicious lie.
43. Towards the end of the November 2016 broadcast, Mr. Jones stated: “Why should anybody fear an investigation? If they have nothing to hide? In fact, isn’t that in Shakespeare’s Hamlet? Methinks you protest too much...This particular case, they are so scared of investigation. Everything they do ends up blowing up in their face, so guys are going to get what you want now. I’m going to start re- investigating Sandy Hook and everything else that happened with it.”31
44. Mr. Jones concluded the video by stating: “So, if children were lost at Sandy Hook, my heart goes out to each and every one of those parents. And the people who say they’re parents that I see on the news. The only problem is, I’ve
29 Id. 30 Id. 31 Id.
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watched a lot of soap operas. And I’ve seen actors before. And I know when I’m watching a movie and when I’m watching something real.”32
45. The November 2016 video broadcast was entitled, “Alex Jones Final Statement on Sandy Hook.” It was Plaintiff’s hope that the title was accurate, and that Mr. Jones would finally end his reckless attacks on the Sandy Hook parents and his assertions that they were liars and actors engaged in a fraud on the American people.
46. As horrifying as the November 2016 broadcast was, its promise of being the “Final Statement” gave hope to Plaintiff that his harassment and defamation by Mr. Jones might be coming to an end after four long years.
47. Those hopes were soon dashed. Instead, InfoWars made continuing defamatory comments in 2017 as outlined above.
48. Mr. Jones also made additional comments in April of 2017 which repeated the claims which form the rickety structure of Mr. Jones’ colossal lie about Sandy Hook, including the allegation that fellow Sandy Hook parent Veronique De La Rosa conducted a fake interview with Anderson Cooper to hide the truth, while telling his viewers not to “believe any of it.”33
32 Id.
33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn1jKhWTXI
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49. On June 18, 2017, Mr. Jones made additional comments when interviewed by Megyn Kelly, during which he stated: “I do think there's some cover- up and some manipulation.”34 The following exchange took place:
MEGYN KELLY: But Alex, the parents, one after the other, devastated. The dead bodies that the coroner autopsied ...
ALEX JONES: And they blocked all that. And they won't release any of it. That's unprecedented.35

Busty2

Link to full lawsuit details here

https://www.law.com/ctlawtribune/201...20180706142719

Busty2

Add Apple to that ever growing list !

Matt-ADX

Glad you only gave us the jist of it

Busty2

Most Chump supporter on here will not be able to read or comprehend it anyway and faced with facts will call it fake news because thats their only retort !

2MuchMark

When did I say I like censorship?

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If he goes bankrupt, that's his problem.

If he caused damage to someone, they are entitled to sue him. Google "defamation".

There's nothing political about it.

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amusing when those exact same fucking idiots who continually blather on and on about being afraid the government (Republicans) will shut them down and tell you non stop that you're in the adult biz, therefore you need to be tolerant of anything and everything, are always the ones cheering the shouting down and censoring of others they don't agree with.

fucking morons. the unbridled stupidity of you people is seriously unreal.

even funnier, i've never met anyone that thought Alex Jones was anything more than an idiot pandering to a small crowd of nut jobs who believe in lizard people living underground... but of course, you fucking morons want to now believe he is some sort of champion of the right as he goes down in flames to prove how correct you are in your biased views.

Jesus...

fucking simpletons.

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They don't care if they win or lose. It's about filing a bunch of lawsuits to rack up legal bills. To these non-profit groups it doesn't matter.. They are playing with other peoples money... They just file frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit.. They are called SLAPP

The people at the top, Soros, Obama and Hillary know whats about to drop.. They are trying to silence any and all right wing outlets they can... They banned CandaceO for replacing "white" with "black" in some of the NY Times chicks tweets.. That cunt didn't get banned. Candace did..

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Some of them literally are actors with an IMDB page. Very bad ones I might add.

None of the companies that banned Infowars gave any specific example of the offending "hate speech". You people are celebrating blatant censorship by Silicon Valley liberals who want to suppress the truth. Nice job, guys- you're authoritarians.

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There you go blaming Obama & Hillary again you're just an out of date one trick pony 2 years past your expiration date. Sad

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Kill whitey.

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Yes sir

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Look at who's agreeing with you.

"Hate speech" is jewish. They want to stop you as a white guy from fighting back.

MFCT

So the big social media sites colluded together and effectively erased Alex Jones from digital existence. Ok, so that happened. Yawn, because I don't care about him.

But the bigger question, though, is... who's next? They didn't stop with banning the confederate flag. They didn't stop with having Civil War monuments removed.

So logically, Alex is just the tip of the iceberg of a flood of things that just don't exist anymore on social media.

What if Bladewire, for example, was in control of who and what disappears from social media? Then social media would be nothing but those who agree with him, and penises.

IDK, this is a weird time to be in.

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