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Old 05-02-2003, 05:22 PM   #201
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What is going to hurt the industry more is people running off half-cocked tryingto take a higher moral ground and getting everyone else shut down?
BINGO

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Old 05-02-2003, 05:22 PM   #202
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slandered them on the phone when she called to complain.
Ohhhhh, ok. You got me there, big fella'. LOL Beware, people, if you call up a company on the phone and complain, you will be committing slander, according to MrPopup.
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:26 PM   #203
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What? What? What?

Listen up ... I was just making a point. the bird was in here whining about porn - yet she makes porn and very likely stars in it, and has not denied using her own pregnancy to make money.

She came in here screaming as a parent "BLAH FUCKING BLAH my daughter"...well fuck her. Does it say RETARDED PARENTS BULLETIN BOARD on your monitor? No, it says Go Fuck Yourself. If she had a legitimate problem then the responsible thing to do would be to approach Swoit in private...and then respond in the board if necessary AFTERWARDS if she wasnt satisfied.

All she accomplished was slandering swoit (who probably doesnt need it), and making herself look like a crazy person.

However, her sig pretty much warns against it so i guess she warned everybody.
Lol.. okay.. I get what you mean, and I agree that she should have gone about it in a better way. However, she wasn't complaining about porn, she was complaining about spam (unsolicited email). It might not be illegal the way it was done.. I don't know the spam laws well enough, but it certainly is unethical (not immoral) to send porn spam to people unsolicited, not just to minors.

I've said it many a time and I'll keep sayin it - as an industry, we won't be left alone by the government until we stop pushing our product onto people who want nothing to do with it. You don't see your local adult video store sending out junk mail with hardcore pictures on the envelope. I do get mail from Adam and Eve in my mail box, but guess what.. there is nothing on the outside of the envelope to say that it's got porn inside. Why? Because they don't know the age of the person who is checking my mailbox, so they have no right to put explicit images on it. Why should we be any different with being responsible and just plain logical about how we go about marketing our products??

I think that's the end of my rant.....
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Yes, absolutely. Although it's nothing they couldn't see by walking into a 7-11 and strolling by any of the magzine racks. The image used in the email is extremely softcore, there's no nudity even!


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But that makes it ok right? You're so cool. I wanna be just like you when I grow up.
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THat aint nothin, I didnt open my email for 2 days.
I recieved 1574 Different spam letters today. It took 45 minutes for my PC to get all the messages.

Now to dig around in the goods and see if anyone got some good sales pitches and angles
I love spam keep it commin and I will put em in my database

No email from SWOIT here though I almost feel left out!
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Do you let your kids walk around on the street by themselves? at night? Either your parenting skills are crap or this is your first week with the Internet.

Take some fucking percocet or something.

Look at your sig you hypocrite.

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Morals? Thats the funniest thing ive ever heard here. Are you retarded or were you just born that way?

Are you trying to insinuate that all people who are in the adult industry are bad parents by association? I am a mother, my children are not exposed to my "job". They are well-adjusted, highly intelligent and happy children. You sir, are an idiot. And as I mentioned in my post, my son's email got it too, but I deleted it before he ever saw it. Doesn't mean I can't be pissed off that he got it in the first place, does it? How about the 10 some-odd MAINSTREAM email addresses *I* personally got spammed on, none of which have ANYTHING to do with my adult, and are not listed or linked anywhere on my adult-related materials?
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:37 PM   #208
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THat aint nothin, I didnt open my email for 2 days.
I recieved 1574 Different spam letters today. It took 45 minutes for my PC to get all the messages.

Now to dig around in the goods and see if anyone got some good sales pitches and angles
I love spam keep it commin and I will put em in my database

No email from SWOIT here though I almost feel left out!
That's a great idea. I'm going to start doing that today. Ripping off marketing from the spam I get. That's pure fucking genius, because let's face it, what are they going to do about it. Thank you!
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No sadder then whining all day about a spam.

Where do you live?!?...I'm considering contacting Child Protection Services to make sure your children aren't exposed to your work.

After all...its in the interest of everybody to make sure your actions go reported and observed right? I mean...even if you arent doing anything illegal shouldnt somebody know that mommy is a pornographer?

Go give your head a shake.
You absolutely, complete, UTTER FUCKING ASSHOLE. Why not remove your head from your ass and stop trying to make yourself look bigger by attempting to fuck with other people's lives. This is neither funny, NOR making some kind of "point'. It's just making you look like a bigger and bigger fuckhead with every word that comes from your proverbial mouth.

You are certainly one to judge, aren't you? Go choke, or something.
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You absolutely, complete, UTTER FUCKING ASSHOLE. Why not remove your head from your ass and stop trying to make yourself look bigger by attempting to fuck with other people's lives. This is neither funny, NOR making some kind of "point'. It's just making you look like a bigger and bigger fuckhead with every word that comes from your proverbial mouth.

You are certainly one to judge, aren't you? Go choke, or something.
Once someone decides to fuck with HIS life, he won't think it's so funny.
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Either way, I don't see why FT has to defend herself. In you people's minds (Mr. Popup) all strippers, etc, anyone who has ANYTHING to do with the adult industry should not have children. That includes anyone who's ever posed in playboy, about 75% of the people who post to this board, all that shit. It seems to me that SHE found the spam BEFORE her daughter saw it, if you folks were actually READING what she said, but why the hell can't she be angry that it came in the first place?

And Mr. Popup, you shouldn't take your anger on your mother out on everyone else. It's not YOUR fault the milkman had good aim and $50 in his pocket to pay her.
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Once someone decides to fuck with HIS life, he won't think it's so funny.
Yep. Even joking, it was the lowest fucking statement I have ever seen on this or any other webmaster board in a long time. People like him should be dragged into the street and beaten with bamboo rods, or something.
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Why not remove your head from your ass and stop trying to make yourself look bigger by attempting to fuck with other people's lives.
Thanks for backing up my original point sweetlips.

Fucking with other peoples lives (i.e. people ALSO who have families) is exactly what FetishTemptress did when she decided to irrationally threaten SWOIT with her bullshit sob story.
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In you people's minds (Mr. Popup) all strippers, etc, anyone who has ANYTHING to do with the adult industry should not have children. .
Nothing like a generalization.

Trying to turn this into a rant on feminism wont save this thread. I dont know why you are reducing it to women vs. men but I suppose its because you misunderstand the entire point of the thread.

FetishTemptress was wrong to open her big mouth before contacting swoit first.

I could give a fuck if she was a man or woman or anything in between. You however seem interested in bringing some fucked up red herrings into this.
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Yep. Even joking, it was the lowest fucking statement I have ever seen on this or any other webmaster board in a long time. People like him should be dragged into the street and beaten with bamboo rods, or something.
Get a life lady.... what did i day that bothered you so much? did I hit a button?

Perhaps your children also have been exposed to the pornography in your home? Is that what makes you so fucking defensive?

I was being fecicious...or shall I explain to you what that means?

Why dont you take a deep breath...and step away from the computer before you freeze a tit or something.

jeez... how do some people make it thru life...
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Genghis Khan -

I have a database of em converted to text.
The top most used words so far are:

General most used Word:
#1 ) Free
#2 ) Discount
#3 ) Deal

Girls Names:

#1 ) Michelle
#2 ) April
#3 ) Jennifer

Analysis is very important in this biz
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Once someone decides to fuck with HIS life, he won't think it's so funny.
dude if thats a threat ill sick my team of lawyers on your ass.

(i think thats what bobbyheenan used to say)
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I thought this was kinda funny

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only going on 2 years ago
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Once someone decides to fuck with HIS life, he won't think it's so funny.
typing words into a message board is a little different then making telephone complaints to try and bring added heat down on the industry.

learn how to spot when someone is merely being fecicious ...its something you might need to know.
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One way of putting it into perspective is the the thought that children should NEVER be left un-attended when operating a computer connected to the Internet.

Todays computers have immense capabilities, whould you hand a child a gun without him/her being able to distinguish what it is or capable of? I think not and a PC is really no different considering information on the net.

A PC is not a Baby sitter.

I think thats common sense these days but maybe not.
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Admittedly it is not a perfect world.
I do wish it was safe for a minor to run about the net and not come accross things that are
"Objectionable" for Minors and it is not just adult content to fear, there is alot of violence on the net, along with potentially dangerous information.
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can you send it to my daughter??

I want her to know what's gonna happen to her if she doesn't get straight A's at school!
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Nothing like a generalization.

Trying to turn this into a rant on feminism wont save this thread. I dont know why you are reducing it to women vs. men but I suppose its because you misunderstand the entire point of the thread.

FetishTemptress was wrong to open her big mouth before contacting swoit first.

I could give a fuck if she was a man or woman or anything in between. You however seem interested in bringing some fucked up red herrings into this.
How was it women against men? I can name three people off the top of my head (ALL MEN) who posted announcements about being new parents.

Sure, FT may have been a little pre-emptive, but I think she has EVERY right to be protective of her children. Better than than some person popping out kids to stay on welfare, eh?
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Get a life lady.... what did i day that bothered you so much? did I hit a button?

Perhaps your children also have been exposed to the pornography in your home? Is that what makes you so fucking defensive?

I was being fecicious...or shall I explain to you what that means?

Why dont you take a deep breath...and step away from the computer before you freeze a tit or something.

jeez... how do some people make it thru life...
Because I'm a mother, I have the same protective instincts that any other mother has, and to see someone threatening, even faceitously, to have someone's children taken away pisses me off to no end. You do NOT fuck with a family unless the children are in some way in danger. As long as they are in a loving home and not abused, well taken care of, etc, why would ANYONE make such a bullshit threat? There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of children who live in abusive homes, surrounded by drugs, alcohol, mental abuse, you name it. THOSE children need saviors. For you to take it to such a low level is beyond even what I expect from you, and I have as much a right as ANYONE to voice my opinion on it. Why do you care. Did *I* hit a button? Why even bother responding?
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How was it women against men? I can name three people off the top of my head (ALL MEN) who posted announcements about being new parents.

Sure, FT may have been a little pre-emptive, but I think she has EVERY right to be protective of her children. Better than than some person popping out kids to stay on welfare, eh?
Its clear to me that you've been drinking all day.
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Its clear to me that you've been drinking all day.
Pepsi. I don't drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, or anything else, thank you very much.

It's clear to me you've been smoking pole all day. Don't hear me complaining.
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All this fuss over one email?

I doubt if spammers know who they are sending it to. If they did I doubt, I would get all the unwanted email. Do I need a larger penis? No, I don?t have one. Am I a tired of my wife? I happen to be a wife. And the list goes on.

Bottom line, parents should really control their children?s internet use especially when they are in the adult business and try not to make to many enemies. I still remember asking my parents what fuck meant. I pity the poor kid who asks the question to their mom or dad, is it true you are a porn-master and I am one too?

Tell me to go fuck off. A photographer or webmaster can easily explain the facts if their child asks. But how do explain to a child that mommy put up pics of herself or lied and just used my name but the pics are not of me?

http://www.fetishtemptress.com/pregg...mmas/tour.html

04/08/03 - Fetish Temptress (from Pregnant Archive) Is Pregnant Again!!!
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Silly, and I hope this thread is just another fake drama to amuse the readers.
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http://www.fetishtemptress.com/pregg...mmas/tour.html
04/08/03 - Fetish Temptress (from Pregnant Archive) Is Pregnant Again!!!
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Lets hope she at least made some money.

this board is just too fucking classic.
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It's clear to me you've been smoking pole all day. Don't hear me complaining.
grade ten was too challenging wasnt it?
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Just think. One day her (Fetish Temptress) daughter is going to grow up and go to school. And when she does, sooner or later, one of her classmates is going to show her some pictures from her mother's website and then we'll all have the last laugh. I may be an adult webmaster with children and I realize I run the risk that one day my daughters may find out what I do for a living but I can sure sleep at night knowing that they will never see a picture of me wacking off on the internet some day.
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You can keep the crack pipe to yourself asshole..welcome my kids to the real world? adult child pornographer in the makings here

FT**
i didnt know u were under 18?
thanx anyway nice try,

ur kids r going to grow up and b made fun of and they will grow up and blame it on u.
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I am an adult webmaster...and?
I dont spam childrena..so what is your point, if you have one, which I seriously doubt.


FT**
haha u must b a fool,
u complain yet u r just helping to fuel the problem.
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<BR>doesn't the password for the paysite go to the e-mail address that was used to sign up?
what good would it do to use someone else's?
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Lol.. okay.. I get what you mean, and I agree that she should have gone about it in a better way. However, she wasn't complaining about porn, she was complaining about spam (unsolicited email). It might not be illegal the way it was done.. I don't know the spam laws well enough, but it certainly is unethical (not immoral) to send porn spam to people unsolicited, not just to minors.

I've said it many a time and I'll keep sayin it - as an industry, we won't be left alone by the government until we stop pushing our product onto people who want nothing to do with it. You don't see your local adult video store sending out junk mail with hardcore pictures on the envelope. I do get mail from Adam and Eve in my mail box, but guess what.. there is nothing on the outside of the envelope to say that it's got porn inside. Why? Because they don't know the age of the person who is checking my mailbox, so they have no right to put explicit images on it. Why should we be any different with being responsible and just plain logical about how we go about marketing our products??

I think that's the end of my rant.....
I've been out for my birthday so I haven't had a chance to respond.

The bottom line is this. You are going to get spam emails and you will get adult spam. Even the new laws they are trying to pass don't make it illegal to send PORN in an email. Do your fucking job, watch your kids, kill the problem before it gets to them.

I have cable and if my kid changes the channel theres a good chance he'll see sex, nudity, or foul language on nut just cable but regular TV now. Should I call the TV stations bitching or should I be a parent and make sure my kids aren't exposed to it. I choose to be a parent. If my kid ever gets porn in their email guess what...........THEY'LL NEVER FUCKING SEE IT.
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i didnt know u were under 18?
thanx anyway nice try,

ur kids r going to grow up and b made fun of and they will grow up and blame it on u.
I'm taunting you right now, for being unable to type Y-O-U. Was your mother in porn, by chance?
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I'm taunting you right now, for being unable to type Y-O-U. Was your mother in porn, by chance?
actually no she wasnt,

and about typing u as Y-O-U,

im sorry if a crackhead pornstar cant understand the sounding of the alphabet,

hopefully rehab will pull ur memory through.

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Lets see if I can make this my last post on this matter.
1. where in my original post did I state my daughter opened and/or read this email?
It doesnt...

2. IF you read Mr. Swoits original post you will find it contains some blantant lies....
A. The image used in the email is extremely softcore, there's no nudity even!
As several people have seen there are deffinately HARDCORE images contained in this email. And there is more than "an image" its images.
(you can all say I'm nitpicking but, image as he claimed is images in the email received)
B. They only send out emails to people that have attempted to sign up or are past members.
Then why are other people saying they have received spam emails from them. Did they all attempt to sign up to? Lady Mischief your son got a spam email from Swoit also - did you son attempt to sign up as they claim my daughter did?

3. They attempted to provide info about this attempted sign up which is TOTALLY FALSE...I even went so far as to call my ISP and the IP address that Swoit provided DOES NOT and HAS NEVER belonged to my computer.

4. Swoit says they dont send out unsolicited emails(only to past members or attempted signups...Well, arent emails unsolicited if a person didnt sign up for to receive it? An attempted sign does not mean the person wants to receive emails from that company

5. You are absolutely correct Lady Mischief, I shouldnt have to defend myself but, it looks like it has come down to that..
As MrPopup put it"Fucking with other peoples lives (i.e. people ALSO who have families) is exactly what FetishTemptress did when she decided to irrationally threaten SWOIT with her bullshit sob story."
If I was irrationally threatening Swoit by a bullshit sob story , why are they trying to cover their asses with lies now about this?

6. Catalina it seems the consensus is that any woman that is a mother that is in this industry is a bad mother. What about all the men in the industry that are fathers? That must make them bad fathers as well.

7. As aztecvision said "That call never came from my phone...
It fell on Palm Sunday..
We're catholic...
There's no way in hell...
Blah blah blah...
Still doesn't change the fact that it happened...
Does your daughter have friends??? Has it ever crossed your mind that she might have done it from a friends house???"

I said Palm Sunday because I knew we were not home on that particular day and my daughte was with me. And It DIDN'T happen - they dont even have MY IP ADDRESS.

8. Its pretty sad that people are attacking me as mother and a few other women here because I have taken a stand on this issue. I am taking a stand because they sent out a porn email and are now lying about the reasons it was sent. And its also sad that people are making jokes about this and in my eyes they are just as bad as the company that is doing this and are probably promoting the company and are worried that might not make anymore money from them.
I am not complaining about porn , I am complaining that a porn email was sent to my 10 year old daughter and now they are lying about it all to cover their butts.

So you can all go ahead and make your jokes and talk down about me and other people that feel that same as I do. Gosh, even say how I'm a bad mother because i'm in this industry. Your words and threats about calling child welfare do not bother me. You do what you got to do and I'll do what I have to do...Cause it all boils down to one thing. Swoit was wrong , they know it, and now they are trying to cover their tracks...Which they arent doing very well. A lie is a lie, plain and simple. I know I am right and they know it too!
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8. Its pretty sad that people are attacking me as mother and a few other women here because I have taken a stand on this issue. I am taking a stand because they sent out a porn email and are now lying about the reasons it was sent. And its also sad that people are making jokes about this and in my eyes they are just as bad as the company that is doing this and are probably promoting the company and are worried that might not make anymore money from them.
I am not complaining about porn , I am complaining that a porn email was sent to my 10 year old daughter and now they are lying about it all to cover their butts.

So you can all go ahead and make your jokes and talk down about me and other people that feel that same as I do. Gosh, even say how I'm a bad mother because i'm in this industry. Your words and threats about calling child welfare do not bother me. You do what you got to do and I'll do what I have to do...Cause it all boils down to one thing. Swoit was wrong , they know it, and now they are trying to cover their tracks...Which they arent doing very well. A lie is a lie, plain and simple. I know I am right and they know it too!
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Lady, you are stupid. Who the fuck made this into a women vs. men debate OR EVEN a debate about the ethics of whether the MENTALLY HANDICAPPED should be sterilized... Please for the sake of this boards sanity - shut your stupid whiny piehole.

You are a fucking joke. You make money from this board - you are a member of the adult industry. You still have a responsibility to bring your spam issue up in a responsible manner - not going off all half cocked like a fucking oranguatang whose never operated a PC before.

Sure you also have a responsibility as a parent but nobody gives a fuck. Nobody could care less about you as a parent or whether little betsy-sue happens to subscribe to porn sites. Is it our problem that you cant supervise your own kids in a house you produce pornography in? No. But what is a problem is the way you irresponisbly brought up this whole beef.

Not to mention youve proved countless times in this thread that you are a liar. You said you werent preggo content and you are. What else have you lied about? Will you lie about that to your kids when they get older too?

You have failed to address every one of these issues. You are an irresponsible business person.

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Point me to the post that I said I wasnt pregnant content...please find it for me....

You shouldnt post until you get your facts straight..but, that will
never happen because your head is stuck up your ignorant, immature backside

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mrpopup, you avoided the question in another thread, but do you believe a ten year old girl signed up for a porn site? You keep telling her to use netnanny or supervise her kids better. This is implying the kid did that.
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actually no she wasnt,

and about typing u as Y-O-U,

im sorry if a crackhead pornstar cant understand the sounding of the alphabet,

hopefully rehab will pull ur memory through.

A crackhead pornstar? Ever heard that assume makes an ass of you and me? I am on the WEBMASTER side of things, thank you. Get your facts straight, asshole.

And you also just made a very big generalization about women in the industry as a whole. You also just showed what a shallow, infantile idiot you are.
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A crackhead pornstar? Ever heard that assume makes an ass of you and me? I am on the WEBMASTER side of things, thank you. Get your facts straight, asshole.

And you also just made a very big generalization about women in the industry as a whole. You also just showed what a shallow, infantile idiot you are.
Are you, or are you not, content?
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And FT, Bravo for having the balls to state and defend what you believe is the right thing to do.
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Are you, or are you not, content?
Have you been to our website? Does it look like there's only one person there?

www.jactcontent.com
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Have you been to our website? Does it look like there's only one person there?

www.jactcontent.com
Is that a yes or is that a no?
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Is that a yes or is that a no?
I had websites with me in the past that were in no shape or form associated with what I've done for the last three years. I am now a photographer, website owner, and do some graphic design on the side. That a problem with you? Or are you just sticking your nose in for kicks?
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And FT, Bravo for having the balls to state and defend what you believe is the right thing to do.
Thanks LadyMischief - I know you would do the same thing!

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I had websites with me in the past that were in no shape or form associated with what I've done for the last three years. I am now a photographer, website owner, and do some graphic design on the side. That a problem with you? Or are you just sticking your nose in for kicks?
I would make the guess that the person is just sticking his/her nose in for kicks....its amazing how all these porn webmasters want to know if you and I are content....maybe they want to buy???

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I would make the guess that the person is just sticking his/her nose in for kicks....its amazing how all these porn webmasters want to know if you and I are content....maybe they want to buy???

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Honestly I am not going to bother trying to talk to them anymore on the subject. They have their views, we as mothers have ours, and nothing is going to make us feel the same way about things.. Maybe someday when they get out of preschool and have children of their own, they will understand a little more of what it's like to be a parent in today's world. It's so much more trecherous than it used to be.
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