notinmybackyard

Yes I know I'm an old man but so what?

I remember when I was a kid almost everyone had a gun in their home. They weren't just hunting rifles because a lot of men came home from WW2 with souvenirs.

Plus we all hated our teachers, our bosses, and from what I was told very few wives were willing to do the stuff that the French whores did when France was liberated.

However, no one went off on a shooting spree because someone called them a fairy in school

In all honesty, they usually were a homo and they learned pretty fast to shut the fuck up about sex... Just like ALL of us knew enough to shut up regardless of what genitals we preferred to play with

So what the fuck has changed?

Is it because today's men have no balls? Or is it because the women now have balls? Is there something in the water? Too much Ritalin in a kid's diet?

I'm being serious about this question. What the fuck has changed?

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Bladewire

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You baby boomers have left them a shitty world.

Rochard

I personally believe we - meaning Americans - have issues with mental health.

When i was a kid we had a large collection of expensive custom rifles and shotguns. We kept them in a glass "gun cabinet" - it was locked but my folks kept the key on top of the cabinet... Then again any five year old kid could of opened it without the key. Not once did we ever consider taking out the rifles or shotguns.

The problem here is all mental health. Anyone who is willing to walk into school or place of business and shot people at random has mental issues.

This combined with easy access to firearms is a dangerous combination.

Eventually you will need a license to own a firearm. I believe in some states this is a requirement.

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bronco67

You know what? You mostly answered your own question without even realizing it.

Men are pussies compared to my dad's generation. He manned a twin 20mm anti-aircraft gun on a WW2 battleship and lived through the terror of shooting down kamikazes before they could inflict massive damage. He took loads of shrapnel for his country in a righteous war that saved the world from tyranny.

men today don't have that experience so many of them are little babies who can't deal with their problems, so they go out and kill innocent people. I don't want to oversimplify it, and I'm not saying that all men need to go to war, but there's a stark difference between the problems of a modern young man vs generations past. And I'll include myself in that group of whiny baby men who haven't been forged in the flame of battle. We're all a bunch of pussies, although most of us won't pick up a gun to kill strangers because of a feeling of being victimized.

Those "Proud Boys" Alt Right faggots are the worst and the purest definition of pussy I can think of. Complaining about women who have bigger balls than they do.

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^^^agreed^^^

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When I was a kid we had trucks in the school parking lot with rifles and shotguns in the back window..

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You simply didnt hear about them but they happened...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States


They simply became more common as semi auto guns became more common.. You dont see many mass shootings with bolt action rifles or 6 shot revolvers... I think maybe the only exception was the Texas university shooter who used a bolt action rifles but he locked him self at the top of a tower so it was hard to get at him but even still he had multiple semi auto pistols and a sawed off shot gun.. He was also a trained Marine Marksmen so it would be obvious for him to be capable with a bolt action..


24hr news coverage and the internet probably helps add to the mix as so many of these new shooters seem to want to copy cat the previous ones..

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SilentKnight

There's also a barrage of influences on younger generations these days through media, television, internet, social media...you name it - that previous generations weren't heavily inundated or influenced by.

Graphic violence has become entertainment.

To a normal adjusted person, it only remains entertainment. To those with mental health issues it can become a trigger...justification to go on a rampage.

escorpio

I blame the rap music and the video games.

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notinmybackyard

You know I can see both of you(Bronco) and Rochard as being right.

I've often complained that people today are pathetically weak and men especially so. That much weakness is going to cause mental problems.

I've always know that it's the scared dog that's most likely to bite you while it's the tough bad ass dog that's more likely to give you lots of warning. It seems to me people are a lot like that. A fucked up coward will go on a murderous rampage while a bad ass redneck won't mess with anyone unless they mess with him first.

So I can see it being a case of *** If you're weak then you're fucked in the head and if you're fucked in the head then you one day you might go on a shooting spree.***


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So I'm not a boomer... I'm the Silent Generation.

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Rochard

You might have a point here.

The reasons why such crimes are done with firearms instead of baseball bats or knives is because with a firearm you don't have to get "wet" - meaning, you don't get blood on you. With a baseball bat or a knife, you would have to go to one person at a time, over power them, and hurt them enough so that they don't get back up and attack you. Now imagine you walk into a room and have to take on ten people with a baseball bat or a knife. It doesn't work. You would very quickly get taken down.

But with a semi automatic firearm... You can walk into the room and pick people off quickly one at a time without having to physically confront anyone, and with really lifting a finger.

Maybe the problem is semi automatic weapons.

There is a lot of debate about "assault rifles". The NRA has quietly been working to define an assault rifle as having "selective fire" meaning it can fire one shot, a burst, OR be fully automatic. That is not what a assault rifle is. A assault rifle is a rifle used to assault a position. You aren't going to run up a hill with a long scoped rifle and attack. The purpose of a assault rifle is to kill a human being.

In Paris Island... The first thing they taught us was to say "sir", the second was zig zag when dodging bullet, and the third was to never ever use the fully automatic on the M16.

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family structure and we have chemicals in everything.

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We are in the weak man cycle atm.

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MFCT

I've wondered why too. All these fucking nutters, if they're caught alive, they're locked up and you never hear about them again. You never know the basic question, such as why the fuck would those assholes do such a thing?

I say put each captured shooter in a room, handcuffed to a chair. And give each victim's family members 5 minutes alone with him, no questioned asked. Maybe then, any future nutcases who might be running around loose out there somewhere will have second thoughts about doing shit like this. Enough is enough.

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There are video games that give almost virtual training of hiding, shooting, saving yourself in real life scenario.

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pimpmaster9000

because murder is ok in amercian culture...when you think of america the first associations are war and guns...what did you expect?

there is nothing complicated about it...

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bronco67

and there you have it.

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notinmybackyard

I never stopped to think about it but now that I have.. You're absolutely right.

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SBJ

social media and bullying. When I was a kid the bullying stopped when school was over but today kids are bullied 24/7 online.

Also, parents need to have the right to spank their kids. Kids that grow up to be taught right from wrong will grow up stronger. Not talking about beatings or anything, just strong rules.

I also believe kids should only have flip phones until they are 17 or 18. Was going to say 16 but don't want them texting and driving.

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None of these reasons explains why teen suicide has doubled in the past 15 years. It's all related. Ever heard the term nothing is more dangerous than a man with nothing to lose? I would not want to be a teen growing up today. Our culture and media worships and has become obsessed with wealth and beauty like never before. 30 years ago people like Kim Kardashian would have been a three times divorced bar slut on welfare, now they're rewarded. An average looking kid used to be able to attract average looking girls, but now even the ugliest of girls posts their ugly fat asses on facebook and you have 50 morons telling them how gorgeous they are giving them a false sense of reality and leaving them to believe they are some kind of beauty queens only deserving the best.

Then you have the fact that hard work used to be admired but now it is looked down upon to the point a decent blue collar job will not even pay the rent. If you are not born into a good situation your only option to look forward to is 100k in student loan debt with no guarantees. Then you have climate change. It's all pretty fucking depressing.

Throw in easy access to guns, the fact that they have grown up seeing over 10,000 murders on TV, video games, rap and you have a recipe for disaster.

blackmonsters

People fucked up the term manners and label it as "PC".

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^this.

And plus all the SSRIs these kids are on nowadays.

Bosa

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultur...edistribution/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politic...on-sex-incels/


"When men start talking about how they will massacre people because women won’t have sex with them...that’s about wanting to control and subjugate women"

"Numerous men seem to feel that having as much sex as Hugh Hefner is an essential part of the American Dream that ought not be denied to them"


Central to the incel ideology is the idea that sex with another person — specifically, penetrative sex with women — isn’t a privilege for men, but a right. Incels talk about sex with "Stacys," their term for attractive women, the way that more reasonable people talk about food, water, and shelter: as a basic necessity for survival. As a thing without which a man will suffer to an unacceptable degree. And they’re not just sad about their failure to sleep with "Stacys," they're angry about it.

After all, the inverse of this idea is that women, in turn, have a duty to provide sex — and that women who don’t have sex with a particular man are doing that man unjust harm.

The idea that men are entitled to sex, and that women owe it to them, was first plucked from the incel community after the Toronto attack by Robin Hanson, an economist at George Mason University, who took to Twitter and to his personal blog to advocate for a "redistribution" of sex. A central claim of incels is that attractive men, whom they call "Chads," sleep with too many women, and that women should be taken from the Chads and given to the incels to make this more fair. "Those w/ less access to sex plausibly suffer similarly to those with low income, & might similarly hope to organize to lobby for redistribution along this axis," Hansen wrote. The rights and desires of women who would be "redistributed" in this scenario aren’t thought of much at all.

The idea that individual men might have a right to sex the way that they have a right to safety and survival was then taken up by Douthat. He wrote that the suffering of incels who can't get laid might one day be seen as a moral obligation for women.

notinmybackyard

• You take care of a bully by belting him in the mouth. - Simple formula, bust his face and he'll stop his bullshit. Until a kid does that the bull will just keep coming at him

• In my day we disciplined our kids and told everyone to mind their own fucking business. Seems to me that people are just scared idiots worrying about what might happen to them if they behave like good parents.

• I've come to believe that we should be putting our kids in the military when they're 16 and don't let them leave it until their 25. Again it comes back to making them tough and giving them strong discipline.

I hate to say it but everything seems to come back to people being weak.

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bronco67

If a guy is not having sex with the girls he wants to have sex with...or none at all, then he needs to become the man that girls want to have sex with. So sorry to them but that's the way the game is played. It's a biological law which has existed since the first dick entered the first pussy.

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Bosa

The point is these guys can't play the game and girls don't want to have sex with these guys. Girls have tons of choices now. Instagram girls have millions of men that want to fuck them and only choose the beautiful models, fuck boys, millionaires, billionaires. These guy have no chance. Even the ugliest girl can be a webcam model or Instagram model and has 1000 of choices This is why they are killing people. They understand it's hopeless.

crockett

There is a old phrase from the wild west days...


God made all men, but Sam Colt made all men equal....


Your theory of big nosy rednecks vs weak doesn't really fly in fact it can possibly be part of the problem. If a weaker person feels threatened by a bigger person, he is not going to try and fist fight him he's going to use a weapon..

Guns make everyone equal in a sense and make it much easier to enforce your will on others who threaten you..

So the question becomes why are people feeling so threatened that they reach for a gun..

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bronco67

There are some perfectly fine girls who are not on Instagram who are looking for a not necessarily nice looking person who will at least be a good guy to hang out with. I see plenty of very average guys with hot girls. Of course, many times that's just a case of a guy having the right friends at the right time because he probably didn't pick her up at a bar. But still, most hot girls are with not so hot guys.

these Alt right loser guys should just start trying to be someone a girl wants to be with. By that, I don't mean to change yourself because it's what a female wants. If a guy is living his life and enjoying it (not joining alt right fag groups) women will notice and want to spend time with that guy. It's basic shit. Don't be a douche and you shouldn't have a problem getting laid. How can a guy who hates women think they'll want to sleep with him? That misogyny will be obvious to a female because they're super-perceptive about that shit.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ember-him.html

Schoolgirl blamed by Elliot Rodger for hatred of women doesn't remember him

Model who gunman claims was his ''first crush" and teased him at school when she was 10 is distraught to be named in his manifesto a decade later

A model who the California gunman Elliot Rodger named as his "first crush" and vilified in his twisted manifesto as an "evil b----" is said to be distraught.

According to her relations Monette Moio met Rodger at school when she was just 10 and doesn't even remember him.

In his manifesto titled "My Twisted World" the deranged young man, who killed six people in Isla Vista, Santa Barbara, last week, claimed that Miss Moio had teased him when they were children and "wounded me deeply".

But her father John Moio, a veteran Hollywood stuntman, said she was now living in fear after her name became public.

He told the New York Daily News: "The whole thing is so creepy. It's scary even though he's gone. She doesn't even remember this guy. She's always been the most delicate kid you'd ever want to meet. For him to call her a bully, this kid was really disillusioned.

"She was 10 years old. It was just an illusion this kid built in his own mind. She hadn't seen him since seventh grade."

Miss Moio works at a gym. A friend there said: "I can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt her. She's so nice."

In the manifesto, which was the product of a warped mind, Rodger wrote: "She must have thought I was an ultimate loser. I hated her so much, and I will never forget her. I started to hate all girls because of this. I saw them as mean, cruel, and heartless creatures that took pleasure from my suffering.

"The world that I grew up thinking was bright and blissful was all over. That is why I immersed myself entirely into my online games like World of Warcraft. I felt safe there."

Rodger, the son of an assistant director on the Hunger Games films, was also jealous of the girl's brother who became an actor. He wrote: "I didn't want him to find out how pathetic my life was."

The manifesto also mentioned another girl who Rodger described as his "first friend" when his family moved to America from the UK when he was five. She grew up to be an extremely attractive and "popular" young blonde woman.

Rodger wrote. "She was a typical pretty girl who had lots of pretty friends. She was one of them, one of the popular kids. She would eventually come to represent everything I hate."

Grapesoda

I viewed an interview with a leadling phycologist maybe 40 years ago... the guy stated that there were going to be violence issues from targeting a demographic to blame the world problems on.

its not okay to put intense artificial pressure on 'children' ... the very same demographic has a very high suicide rate as well.

Grapesoda

men and women are taught to be afraid of each other these days

crockett

Yet you think it's ok to target black/brown people or liberals and blame this country's problems on them..


Do you not see the double standards in your own postings? You are playing the victim cards while trying to victimize others...

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Grapesoda

history and science tell us that the southern united states was settled by 'ketls' from the UKish... there was even a 'southern dialect' spoken in the UKish carried on in the states however now dead in the UKish. Just like creole is a french dialect no longer spoken in france.

Kelts can be VERY aggressive and prefer family groups over governments. (think boston, northern ireland, detroit, chicago etc..so

you can see the swagger on both flavours of those entrenched in the Keltic culture, chocolate and vanilla.

they have books full of stuff like this...

Rochard

I couldn't disagree with you more.

I never spanked my kid - not once. My kid talked back to my wife once when she was about five and got a Paris Island Boot Camp Marine Corps Drill Instructor dressing down that sucked the wind out of her chests. Since that day she's never talked back, never misbehaved, never been grounded or been in trouble all through school - not once.

I also disagree about giving kids access to phones. Social media is just like anything else - there is good and bad. You have to teach your kid how to use, ensure they do not bully other people, and know how to properly handle things when they bullied.

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you lack reading comprehension. and you are not making any sense either, if this is some attack it's going over my head... I will say this though... the avi you have right now really relefts your spirit... you certainly are an unhappy, frustrated and very sad man...

Grapesoda

our way of life is going by the wayside, but it's okay to bully the commander and chief I see.. you learn that at parris island?

SilentKnight

True story...

On my very first day (at a new school) in the 3rd grade - the school 'tough kid' decides he wants to pick a fight 'with the new kid' - just because. As often is the case, the tough kid was surrounded by his small posse of ass-kissing wannabe tough guys as his cheering section. He tried twice that first day to instigate a fight, but I managed to avoid it each time...knowing he had several buddies that would no doubt back him up.

A few days later he (and his pals) followed me on the way home from school. But along the way his buddies eventually went their separate ways, leaving him alone to continue taunting me. He followed me all the way to my house that afternoon.

I beat the snot out of him in a really good one-on-one fight right in front of our house. A neighbour saw it and managed to separate us...although it was pretty much over by that time. But by then he was already rather messed up.

In hindsight, two lessons were learned that day. He learned not to fuck with me...and I learned sometimes you just need to stand your ground and pound the piss outta someone when they deserve it.

I never had a single problem with that little punk after that - or his friends.

huey

Hard times make strong men. : )

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