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kane · 05-24-2019, 03:55 PM

I guess this is the new norm now. If Congress doesn't just let Trump do whatever he wants, he just declares a national emergency and does it anyway.

Trump now going to declare an emergency so he can sell weapons to the Saudis after Congress blocked him from doing so.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8929741.html

Rochard · 05-24-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I guess this is the new norm now. If Congress doesn't just let Trump do whatever he wants, he just declares a national emergency and does it anyway.

Trump now going to declare an emergency so he can sell weapons to the Saudis after Congress blocked him from doing so.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8929741.html

Yes. Let's sell more weapons to the country where 18 of the 19 terrorists that did 9/11 came from.

#winning.

Grapesoda · 05-24-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I guess this is the new norm now. If Congress doesn't just let Trump do whatever he wants, he just declares a national emergency and does it anyway.

Trump now going to declare an emergency so he can sell weapons to the Saudis after Congress blocked him from doing so.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8929741.html

well with the democratic senators calling iran on the phone to chat about stuff what else can you do? the saudis and the iranians are not friends

kane · 05-24-2019, 04:08 PM

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well with the democratic senators calling iran on the phone to chat about stuff what else can you do? the saudis and the iranians are not friends

Of course you would think Trump acting like a rogue dictator is the fault of the Democrats.

Let me guess, they also put the ice berg in front of the Titanic, caused Mt. St Helens to erupt, and are now working on canceling Christmas?

Bladewire · 05-24-2019, 04:11 PM

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well with the democratic senators calling iran on the phone to chat about stuff what else can you do? the saudis and the iranians are not friends

your mind is so far gone you can't tell the difference between talking on the phone with somebody and selling them $200,000,000 billion dollars worth of military weapons.

More whataboutism bullshit to quash honest discussion & discourse.

Your guy is bought and paid for by The Saturdays he's there bitch and you could care less. Sad.

Vendzilla · 05-24-2019, 04:18 PM

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Of course you would think Trump acting like a rogue dictator is the fault of the Democrats.

Let me guess, they also put the ice berg in front of the Titanic, caused Mt. St Helens to erupt, and are now working on canceling Christmas?

The Titanic's bulk heads didn't seal , bad construction, they are attacking Christianity . So there's that

kane · 05-24-2019, 04:29 PM

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The Titanic's bulk heads didn't seal , bad construction, they are attacking Christianity . So there's that

So it is okay for a President to just declare an emergency when he can't get Congress to go along with him so he can get his way?

Vendzilla · 05-24-2019, 04:47 PM

To be clear, no. Obama set a precedent with his deals, like pallets of cash to Iran. Congress will not work with Trump,More interested in getting rid of the president than working with him.
I don't like Iran, spent 6 months off their coast, and selling arms to those that hate them ? I'm cool with that part of it

Bladewire · 05-24-2019, 04:57 PM

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Yes. Let's sell more weapons to the country where 18 of the 19 terrorists that did 9/11 came from.

#winning.

Soon he'll be selling to North Korea, or we'll find out a few years from now that he already has been. Fucking traitor saluting to North Korea generals

pimpmaster9000 · 05-24-2019, 05:05 PM

Its urgent LOL

King Mark · 05-24-2019, 05:53 PM

There goes trump defending and supporting the wahhabis again. When will his cult members catch up?

DraX · 05-24-2019, 07:19 PM

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Soon he'll be selling to North Korea, or we'll find out a few years from now that he already has been. Fucking traitor saluting to North Korea generals

It's called diplomacy...

onwebcam · 05-24-2019, 07:24 PM

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So it is okay for a President to just declare an emergency when he can't get Congress to go along with him so he can get his way?

"We" don't know whats really going on other than however it's being spun.. Such as perhaps SA agreed to do a certain thing if this certain thing occurs.. The agreement could very well have "emergency" implications.. Such as Iran.. And since the Democrat obstructionists will poo poo EVERYTHING he tries to do there's not much left he can do..... Other than what hes doing...

BaldBastard · 05-24-2019, 10:35 PM

So Obama returned 1.7 billion of Iran's own money and that brought 8 years of peace with them.. using their own money.

And Trump is spending in excess of 1 billion a day of American Tax payers money by bringing in two war ships and subs while trying to provoke a war with them.. a war USA can't win incidentally and one they will SURLY bring to American soil.

Yet you red hats think Trump is winning?

Fuck me your a special kind of stupid.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-25-2019, 12:38 AM

ok I wrote this song

national emergency weapons sales!
national emergency weapons sales!

america only murdered 1 million iraqis over lies
nobody went to jail except assange for saying the truth

oooooooh national emergency weapons sales
oooooooh west virginia, take me home, take me hooooome!

good shit

beerptrol · 05-25-2019, 05:25 AM

And when the next dem president does the same thing, the redhats and republican congress will be screaming dictator.

RedFred · 05-25-2019, 05:45 AM

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And when the next dem president does the same thing, the redhats and republican congress will be screaming dictator.

If a dem President did 1/50th of what Trump has done he would have been impeached from day one.

Paul Markham · 05-25-2019, 08:28 AM

There's a long line of countries clamouring to get their Arms sold to Saudi. Countries who don't give a shit the arms might be used to kill other Muslims. So not selling Arms to Saudi achieves nothing in stopping the wars. All it does is give liberals a warm fuzzy feeling they aren't helping, while other Americans lose jobs.

King Mark · 05-25-2019, 08:41 AM

^so when the lefties start doing it come 2020, you gonna have that same energy?

kane · 05-25-2019, 11:54 AM

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There's a long line of countries clamouring to get their Arms sold to Saudi. Countries who don't give a shit the arms might be used to kill other Muslims. So not selling Arms to Saudi achieves nothing in stopping the wars. All it does is give liberals a warm fuzzy feeling they aren't helping, while other Americans lose jobs.

It's not about the guns, it is about the tactics and the law.

Republicans love to talk about how we are a nation of laws - until they don't like how they work. Congress has certain powers. They, for whatever reason, blocked the sale of these weapons. Trump didn't like that and has decided to just declare a national emergency to get what he wants.

This is that slippery slope everyone likes to bring up. This is twice now Trump has done this and I won't be shocked if he does it some more.

Sell them the weapons or don't, I don't give a shit. But if we are going to have laws they should be followed.

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 12:18 PM

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It's not about the guns, it is about the tactics and the law.

Republicans love to talk about how we are a nation of laws - until they don't like how they work. Congress has certain powers. They, for whatever reason, blocked the sale of these weapons. Trump didn't like that and has decided to just declare a national emergency to get what he wants.

This is that slippery slope everyone likes to bring up. This is twice now Trump has done this and I won't be shocked if he does it some more.

Sell them the weapons or don't, I don't give a shit. But if we are going to have laws they should be followed.

The problem you have with this started with Obama setting a precedent by saying I have a pen and a cellphone remarking about EOs

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 12:19 PM

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So Obama returned 1.7 billion of Iran's own money and that brought 8 years of peace with them.. using their own money.

And Trump is spending in excess of 1 billion a day of American Tax payers money by bringing in two war ships and subs while trying to provoke a war with them.. a war USA can't win incidentally and one they will SURLY bring to American soil.

Yet you red hats think Trump is winning?

Fuck me your a special kind of stupid.

You have no concept of history do you?

kane · 05-25-2019, 12:53 PM

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The problem you have with this started with Obama setting a precedent by saying I have a pen and a cellphone remarking about EOs

I would love to see many fewer Executive Orders. Sadly, in the partisan world we live in, they are more and more a reality. Still, they are part of the President's powers and if he signs something that is unlawful it will be challenged in court.

My problem is when the President is a terrible leader and can't get what he wants so he throws a tantrum and declares an emergency so he can just circumnavigate the rules and laws to get his way.

The other issues I have is the precedence this sets and he almost guaranteed hypocrisy that is coming. At some point we will have a Democrat as President. There is a good chance that they will then turn around and do this exact same thing and I think there is an even better chance all the Republicans who are just fine with it now will be so angry they will shit little green elk.

The snowball is just starting to roll, it would be in our best interest to squash this kind of shit before it gets out of control.

And, BTW, in recent history, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, George W. Bush and Clinton all issued more Executive Orders than Obama and Trump is on a pace to beat them all.

crockett · 05-25-2019, 01:44 PM

crockett · 05-25-2019, 01:49 PM

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The problem you have with this started with Obama setting a precedent by saying I have a pen and a cellphone remarking about EOs

Idiot..... Both Reagan and Bush Jr signed more EO's than Obama.. but none even come close to previous admins from the past.. back in your "good ole days"

crockett · 05-25-2019, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I would love to see many fewer Executive Orders. Sadly, in the partisan world we live in, they are more and more a reality. Still, they are part of the President's powers and if he signs something that is unlawful it will be challenged in court.

My problem is when the President is a terrible leader and can't get what he wants so he throws a tantrum and declares an emergency so he can just circumnavigate the rules and laws to get his way.

The other issues I have is the precedence this sets and he almost guaranteed hypocrisy that is coming. At some point we will have a Democrat as President. There is a good chance that they will then turn around and do this exact same thing and I think there is an even better chance all the Republicans who are just fine with it now will be so angry they will shit little green elk.

The snowball is just starting to roll, it would be in our best interest to squash this kind of shit before it gets out of control.

And, BTW, in recent history, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, George W. Bush and Clinton all issued more Executive Orders than Obama and Trump is on a pace to beat them all.

Don't take Vendildo serious enough to give him a long reply.. He outright lied in his post..

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I would love to see many fewer Executive Orders. Sadly, in the partisan world we live in, they are more and more a reality. Still, they are part of the President's powers and if he signs something that is unlawful it will be challenged in court.

My problem is when the President is a terrible leader and can't get what he wants so he throws a tantrum and declares an emergency so he can just circumnavigate the rules and laws to get his way.

The other issues I have is the precedence this sets and he almost guaranteed hypocrisy that is coming. At some point we will have a Democrat as President. There is a good chance that they will then turn around and do this exact same thing and I think there is an even better chance all the Republicans who are just fine with it now will be so angry they will shit little green elk.

The snowball is just starting to roll, it would be in our best interest to squash this kind of shit before it gets out of control.

And, BTW, in recent history, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, George W. Bush and Clinton all issued more Executive Orders than Obama and Trump is on a pace to beat them all.

Yeah, Republicans had a fit with the EOs that Obama did.
The Democratic party is screwing themselves right now, many pushing for a socialist agenda that may fly some day, but can be torn apart right now, it's not showing any uniformity in the party. It's like herding cats.
First thing Trump did was come in with an eraser and get rid of a lot of the EOs that Obama signed in place. The Democratic party is only interested in attacking Trump, since before he even took office, they disagree with court appointees before they even know who they are. How can anyone work with that. Trump agreeing to two trillion in infrastructure then walking out on a meeting with Dem leadership till they stop attacking him is something he will use against them. They might be signing a bunch of bills, but of they can't make them law, what's the point of having them in office?

crockett · 05-25-2019, 02:03 PM

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Yeah, Republicans had a fit with the EOs that Obama did.
The Democratic party is screwing themselves right now, many pushing for a socialist agenda that may fly some day, but can be torn apart right now, it's not showing any uniformity in the party. It's like herding cats.
First thing Trump did was come in with an eraser and get rid of a lot of the EOs that Obama signed in place. The Democratic party is only interested in attacking Trump, since before he even took office, they disagree with court appointees before they even know who they are. How can anyone work with that. Trump agreeing to two trillion in infrastructure then walking out on a meeting with Dem leadership till they stop attacking him is something he will use against them. They might be signing a bunch of bills, but of they can't make them law, what's the point of having them in office?

Vendildo thinks that the next Democrat can't come in with a eraser and undo all of Trump's bullshit.. Reagan had nearly 100 more EO's than Obama yet Vendildo called Reagan the best president ever.. Obama EO's bad though.. Trump's 100 EO's with his own party holding all power for 1st two years "good" quality leadership..

kane · 05-25-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Yeah, Republicans had a fit with the EOs that Obama did.
The Democratic party is screwing themselves right now, many pushing for a socialist agenda that may fly some day, but can be torn apart right now, it's not showing any uniformity in the party. It's like herding cats.
First thing Trump did was come in with an eraser and get rid of a lot of the EOs that Obama signed in place. The Democratic party is only interested in attacking Trump, since before he even took office, they disagree with court appointees before they even know who they are. How can anyone work with that. Trump agreeing to two trillion in infrastructure then walking out on a meeting with Dem leadership till they stop attacking him is something he will use against them. They might be signing a bunch of bills, but of they can't make them law, what's the point of having them in office?

What does any of this have to do with him declaring an emergency that doesn't exist in order to get his way?

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 02:12 PM

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What does any of this have to do with him declaring an emergency that doesn't exist in order to get his way?

Everything

crockett · 05-25-2019, 02:13 PM

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What does any of this have to do with him declaring an emergency that doesn't exist in order to get his way?

It's all Obama's fault.. 2.5 years later everything Trump does is still because OBAMA!!!!

kane · 05-25-2019, 02:33 PM

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Everything

So, what you're saying is it is all Obama's fault.

crockett · 05-25-2019, 02:40 PM

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So, what you're saying is it is all Obama's fault.

Well he is black after all.....

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 02:42 PM

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So, what you're saying is it is all Obama's fault.

Bush kinda started it, Obama made it much worse, Democrats won't let it go, Republicans are to blame as well. Pissed at them for not coming up with a viable replacement for the PPACA

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 02:44 PM

So now we have Trump that will do whatever it takes to fullfil his campaign promises

crockett · 05-25-2019, 03:03 PM

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So now we have Trump that will do whatever it takes to fullfil his campaign promises

Obama bad because he signed less EO's than both Reagan & Bush Jr.. Trump good because he does anything he wants with no accountability

Anyone else figure out this logic yet. I think we need the GOP decoder ring again..

I think it decodes to but...but..but.. he's blek

Vendzilla · 05-25-2019, 03:30 PM

Let's also remember the harassment of Obama appointed judges banning Trump's every move just to have it over turned by a higher court. One judge shouldn't be able to dictate the authority of the president.

The president is elected, the judge is not

crockett · 05-25-2019, 03:32 PM

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Let's also remember the harassment of Obama appointed judges banning Trump's every move just to have it over turned by a higher court. One judge shouldn't be able to dictate the authority of the president.

The president is elected, the judge is not

It's not fair.. whaaaaa whaaaaa Obaaaamaaa

Republicans were so kind to Obaaaamaaa they reached out with open arms its all Obaaaamaaa's fault

directfiesta · 05-25-2019, 04:58 PM

It is an emergency !!!!
The saudis ran out of bonesaw !!!!

VRPdommy · 05-26-2019, 03:40 PM

I do think the senate blocked arms sales to the Saudi's.
donald must feel that a emergency declaration would bypass that.

I think the courts would disagree since the intention of congress specifically was that they not have them. POTUS is to execute the will of congress, not his own.
Yet one more court battle.

05-24-2019, 03:55 PM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Trump declaring another emergency to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia I guess this is the new norm now. If Congress doesn't just let Trump do whatever he wants, he just declares a national emergency and does it anyway. Trump now going to declare an emergency so he can sell weapons to the Saudis after Congress blocked him from doing so. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8929741.html

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	Its urgent LOL __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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pimpmaster9000 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 26,732	ok I wrote this song national emergency weapons sales! national emergency weapons sales! america only murdered 1 million iraqis over lies nobody went to jail except assange for saying the truth oooooooh national emergency weapons sales oooooooh west virginia, take me home, take me hooooome! good shit __________________ Report a suspicious cracker: Click Here

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	And when the next dem president does the same thing, the redhats and republican congress will be screaming dictator. __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	There's a long line of countries clamouring to get their Arms sold to Saudi. Countries who don't give a shit the arms might be used to kill other Muslims. So not selling Arms to Saudi achieves nothing in stopping the wars. All it does is give liberals a warm fuzzy feeling they aren't helping, while other Americans lose jobs. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	To be clear, no. Obama set a precedent with his deals, like pallets of cash to Iran. Congress will not work with Trump,More interested in getting rid of the president than working with him. I don't like Iran, spent 6 months off their coast, and selling arms to those that hate them ? I'm cool with that part of it

05-24-2019, 05:53 PM	#11
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	There goes trump defending and supporting the wahhabis again. When will his cult members catch up?

05-24-2019, 10:35 PM	#14
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,878	So Obama returned 1.7 billion of Iran's own money and that brought 8 years of peace with them.. using their own money. And Trump is spending in excess of 1 billion a day of American Tax payers money by bringing in two war ships and subs while trying to provoke a war with them.. a war USA can't win incidentally and one they will SURLY bring to American soil. Yet you red hats think Trump is winning? Fuck me your a special kind of stupid.

05-25-2019, 08:41 AM	#19
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	^so when the lefties start doing it come 2020, you gonna have that same energy?

05-25-2019, 01:44 PM	#24
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	__________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	So now we have Trump that will do whatever it takes to fullfil his campaign promises __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

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Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	Let's also remember the harassment of Obama appointed judges banning Trump's every move just to have it over turned by a higher court. One judge shouldn't be able to dictate the authority of the president. The president is elected, the judge is not

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,585	It is an emergency !!!! The saudis ran out of bonesaw !!!! __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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VRPdommy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 10,734	I do think the senate blocked arms sales to the Saudi's. donald must feel that a emergency declaration would bypass that. I think the courts would disagree since the intention of congress specifically was that they not have them. POTUS is to execute the will of congress, not his own. Yet one more court battle.