Acacia Strikes Again - 3rd Attempt - GoFuckYourself.com

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:33 PM

I recieved these from Acacia today, anyone else get theirs yet? This is their 3rd attempt to fuck with me, the first time they sent an email late last year which I repleid to with:

FUCK OFF WITH YOU GOD DAMN SCAM YOU ASSHOLES!!!

The second attempt was their packet which I have yet to ever read (don't like things that bore me within the first paragraph)

Now this is the third and final attempt, wow, should I be scared into settling?

NOT!!!

http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia01.jpg
http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia02.jpg
http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia03.jpg

Sorry didn't know my scanner needed cleaning before I scanned, it was in a box for awhile hahaha.

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:40 PM

Important Bump!

Bladewire · 10-17-2003, 02:42 PM

Brent I feel for you big time! I can't believe they are doing this over the holidays!!! Very low. Not only do they threaten you with litigation.... they do it over the holiday season.

Do these people want to get what they are requesting? It seems everything they are doing, and the way they are doing it says no.. they are just trying to punish us for being in the adult industry?

Brent I'm sorry this is happening man. I went through litigation last year that laster 9 months.. I was served right before thanksgiving and I know how this stuff feels.

Hang in there... the innovators and creators will win in this!

calm · 10-17-2003, 02:43 PM

do you really want the GFY freaks knowing where you work (or live?)

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by calm
do you really want the GFY freaks knowing where you work (or live?)

That was my old biz address, no longer there and if they really wanted my new address all they have to do is whois or look on our site under support or contact hehehe, not a big deal I doubt there are any stalkers in the adult biz and if they are I am too ugly to worry about it;)

MetaMan · 10-17-2003, 02:46 PM

good job, fuck those rats

FightThisPatent · 10-17-2003, 02:48 PM

Be ready for the next wave, which my guess is they will file a bunch of lawsuits, and have that "convince" you to settle out of court. Full court press...use the legal system to intimidate people into signing, especially before the defendants can get to court and argue their defense..

THERE ARE NO REFUNDS ON THE LICENSE FEES WHEN THE PATENT IS FOUND INVALID!

its like Legal _______ (what word goes there? )

Fight the Patent!

The Truth Hurts · 10-17-2003, 02:49 PM

Wow, what a bunch of fucking name-droppers.

Shoplifter · 10-17-2003, 02:50 PM

Their stock is starting to slide a bit...The ask/bid ratio was about 20:1 last night.

tootie · 10-17-2003, 02:50 PM

Did they send you those articles???

And they're actually telling you that LFP and Wicked and others signed? Sounds like the ACACIA dimwits are the ones who are scared, to me!

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:51 PM

Fuck em I got over 50+ domains lets play this game, its now 3rd quarter and the adult industry has plenty up their sleeves, they can stop my domain I have now but I will always OWN the mailing lsit which I can still reach customers with a new domain, then another new domain, then another new domain, and etc.

And if they don't like I will close up shop, file bankruptcy and tell them to suck my ass.

FUCK OFF AND DIE ACACIA

fiveyes · 10-17-2003, 02:52 PM

As much as you may hate it, ignoring them is the last thing you want to do. Get a lawyer, and get one quick.

If they get a default judgement against you, they'll lock you out. Already did it once before and they used it for another press release.

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
Did they send you those articles???

And they're actually telling you that LFP and Wicked and others signed? Sounds like the ACACIA dimwits are the ones who are scared, to me!

Yes those little articles were included with the letter with my final chance to suck their tiny little balls, I will become a shemale before I ever sign shit of theirs.

Bladewire · 10-17-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
I recieved these from Acacia today, anyone else get theirs yet? This is their 3rd attempt to fuck with me, the first time they sent an email late last year which I repleid to with:

FUCK OFF WITH YOU GOD DAMN SCAM YOU ASSHOLES!!!

The second attempt was their packet which I have yet to ever read (don't like things that bore me within the first paragraph)

Now this is the third and final attempt, wow, should I be scared into settling?

NOT!!!

http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia01.jpg
http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia02.jpg
http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia03.jpg

Sorry didn't know my scanner needed cleaning before I scanned, it was in a box for awhile hahaha.

The article you reference here http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia03.jpg shows that the only reason they won the first injuction, which sparked all of this contraversy, was because 5 adult site companies didn't show up for the hearing date... allowing Acacia to win the case.

This is why it is SO IMPORTANT to support HomeGrownVideo and Fight The Patent. Home Grown has been there.. steadfast through all of this .. and them standing tall and fighting the fight will eventually lead to a victory for all of us.

As we know, and have shown many times, this prior art does exist. But ignoring the letters only leads to trouble, but then fighting them leads to expense and signing the agreement.... well this is a decision for each person to make and I don't envy you Brent. Thank you for sharing this info with us.

Has anyone else got this 3rd letter? Or are you not wanting to post regarding the situation?

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveyes
As much as you may hate it, ignoring them is the last thing you want to do. Get a lawyer, and get one quick.

If they get a default judgement against you, they'll lock you out. Already did it once before and they used it for another press release.

I got plenty of friends in Europe, let them give me their best shot;)

Bladewire · 10-17-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
Their stock is starting to slide a bit...The ask/bid ratio was about 20:1 last night.

URL?

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 03:00 PM

See the one thing alot of people miss is the fact that an LLC or INc covers your ass in court cases such as this, anyone ever watch the movie where the insurance company lost to a family who's son had died and the insurance company denied their claim for years and they owed the family millions of dollars, so they turned around and filed bankruptcy and the family never got a cent, there are other waysin life to make money then by feeding these bottom feeders with the likes of our wallets, fuck them and their mommas too.

Bladewire · 10-17-2003, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
See the one thing alot of people miss is the fact that an LLC or INc covers your ass in court cases such as this, anyone ever watch the movie where the insurance company lost to a family who's son had died and the insurance company denied their claim for years and they owed the family millions of dollars, so they turned around and filed bankruptcy and the family never got a cent, there are other waysin life to make money then by feeding these bottom feeders with the likes of our wallets, fuck them and their mommas too.

Do you have ICQ ?

Mine is on the left under my name

Stud Money · 10-17-2003, 03:18 PM

In case you dont want to click a link...

Stud Money · 10-17-2003, 03:19 PM

As part of the CE settlement wasnt there a non disclosure type deal setup?

If so, why are they mentioning them in the letter huh?

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
As part of the CE settlement wasnt there a non disclosure type deal setup?

If so, why are they mentioning them in the letter huh?

Their digging a hole so deep their stocks won't even get them out of it, this is some funny fucking shit, I pity those who have settled and will still be stuck paying their asses even after its invalidated if the contract they signed holds up;)

rooster · 10-17-2003, 03:25 PM

those acacia fucks are so comical.

47 out of thousands and every one of those 47 was nothing but a sweetheart deal.

Eventually they need to try and get a real non-sweetheart license, and then resistance will stiffen even more. 30 million in the bank dont go that far fighting dozens of lawsuits and peanuts coming in.

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
those acacia fucks are so comical.

47 out of thousands and every one of those 47 was nothing but a sweetheart deal.

Eventually they need to try and get a real non-sweetheart license, and then resistance will stiffen even more. 30 million in the bank dont go that far fighting dozens of lawsuits and peanuts coming in.

Well I am just glad to see that being one of the first contacted with a sweetheart deal last year that I am still here fighting and I got associates who are fighting the same cause. It's good to see the adult biz come together and fight the good fight when it is needed!!!

FightThisPatent · 10-17-2003, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
As part of the CE settlement wasnt there a non disclosure type deal setup?

If so, why are they mentioning them in the letter huh?

Same reason as they are off showcasing Hustler and Vivid, because someone buried in their agreement probably says they could.

I believe the issue with CE is that rather than referencing them by their corproate name, they were using the CE and CEcash names, where are trademarked, and so CE was probably trying to go after them for mis-using their trademark.

Acacia's brag sheet, I mean list of Press Releases:
http://www.acaciatechnologies.com

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-17-2003, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by BrentD

Sorry didn't know my scanner needed cleaning before I scanned, it was in a box for awhile hahaha.

I wonder if CNET realizes how their article is being utilized by Acacia as part of their "information packet".

They must gotten reprint rights to be able to distribute, but CNET might not have known that their own article would be used in this way.....

Maybe a complaint to CNET is in order, to bring this to their attention? Maybe even contacting the author to see how they feel about this....

Fight the Patent!

mrthumbs · 10-17-2003, 06:43 PM

the fact they include copies of media coverage is a fucking joke.

Really..

Next time theyll include testimonials.

tootie · 10-17-2003, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

I wonder if CNET realizes how their article is being utilized by Acacia as part of their "information packet".

They must gotten reprint rights to be able to distribute, but CNET might not have known that their own article would be used in this way.....

Maybe a complaint to CNET is in order, to bring this to their attention? Maybe even contacting the author to see how they feel about this....

Fight the Patent!

w00t! Good one. Turn 'em in and let's see if they are the infringing party now. :-D

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

I wonder if CNET realizes how their article is being utilized by Acacia as part of their "information packet".

They must gotten reprint rights to be able to distribute, but CNET might not have known that their own article would be used in this way.....

Maybe a complaint to CNET is in order, to bring this to their attention? Maybe even contacting the author to see how they feel about this....

Fight the Patent!

Already made aware...awaiting a response

tootie · 10-17-2003, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

Already made aware...awaiting a response

FightThisPatent · 10-17-2003, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

Already made aware...awaiting a response

I emailed John Borland back on 8/25 and 8/29 with no response... hopefully he responds to you when he sees how his article is being used.

Fight the Patent!

Theo · 10-17-2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
As part of the CE settlement wasnt there a non disclosure type deal setup?

If so, why are they mentioning them in the letter huh?

FM said he was going to sue 'em for this if i remember well. Any update on this?

FightThisPatent · 10-17-2003, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

FM said he was going to sue 'em for this if i remember well. Any update on this?

I thought I had read somewhere that Berman was dismissing the confidentiality infringement as being a non-issue since their licensing agreements allow them to disclose the names...

otherwise, no company would want their name to be used, and they would have nothing to put in their Press Release statements except: "some company that does some things licensed our patent"

Fight the Patent!

Matt_WildCash · 10-17-2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

That was my old biz address, no longer there and if they really wanted my new address all they have to do is whois or look on our site under support or contact hehehe, not a big deal I doubt there are any stalkers in the adult biz and if they are I am too ugly to worry about it;)

Well if they sue you just make sure you turn up to court with something cause otherwise they contact your host and your websites go bye bye

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven

Well if they sue you just make sure you turn up to court with something cause otherwise they contact your host and your websites go bye bye

Thats fine let em, there are plenty of hosts and friends to host under...this is going to be a fucking rabbit hunt hahaha

Mikey · 10-17-2003, 08:48 PM

Fuck 'em. This is America, sue them back for emotional distress.

Kevin2 · 10-17-2003, 09:57 PM

Brent I thought you only supplied your video on CD and not as downloadable? I agree with you I would rather shut my sites and email my customers to go to a url hosted in Red fucking China before I paid them 1 cent.

BrentD · 10-17-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin2
Brent I thought you only supplied your video on CD and not as downloadable? I agree with you I would rather shut my sites and email my customers to go to a url hosted in Red fucking China before I paid them 1 cent.

Kev,

We did change our site to no video samples and no downlaods after we got the packet, but the sad thing these fucks don't even bother asking about is that I have only been selling video on my site through download or samples now for about 2 years and I am no longer infringing till this is invalidated so they truely want to spend that kind of money to get $1500 x 2 out of me?

They are truly stupid if they spend the time and money to come after me for $3000.00 one time fee and never a penny after that, waht a bunch of fucking tards.

I haven't done enough video sales to go over the $1500 a year fine.

freeadultcontent · 10-18-2003, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie

w00t! Good one. Turn 'em in and let's see if they are the infringing party now. :-D

Read the fine print near the bottom of the cnet articles. They used a reprint service. Lawyers are never that stupid.

10-17-2003, 02:33 PM	#1
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	Acacia Strikes Again - 3rd Attempt I recieved these from Acacia today, anyone else get theirs yet? This is their 3rd attempt to fuck with me, the first time they sent an email late last year which I repleid to with: FUCK OFF WITH YOU GOD DAMN SCAM YOU ASSHOLES!!! The second attempt was their packet which I have yet to ever read (don't like things that bore me within the first paragraph) Now this is the third and final attempt, wow, should I be scared into settling? NOT!!! http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia01.jpg http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia02.jpg http://www.cd-media.net/acacia/acacia03.jpg Sorry didn't know my scanner needed cleaning before I scanned, it was in a box for awhile hahaha. __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

10-17-2003, 02:40 PM	#2
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	Important Bump! __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

10-17-2003, 02:42 PM	#3
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	Brent I feel for you big time! I can't believe they are doing this over the holidays!!! Very low. Not only do they threaten you with litigation.... they do it over the holiday season. Do these people want to get what they are requesting? It seems everything they are doing, and the way they are doing it says no.. they are just trying to punish us for being in the adult industry? Brent I'm sorry this is happening man. I went through litigation last year that laster 9 months.. I was served right before thanksgiving and I know how this stuff feels. Hang in there... the innovators and creators will win in this! __________________ Skype: CallTomNow

10-17-2003, 02:43 PM	#4
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10-17-2003, 02:48 PM	#7
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Be ready for the next wave, which my guess is they will file a bunch of lawsuits, and have that "convince" you to settle out of court. Full court press...use the legal system to intimidate people into signing, especially before the defendants can get to court and argue their defense.. THERE ARE NO REFUNDS ON THE LICENSE FEES WHEN THE PATENT IS FOUND INVALID! its like Legal _______ (what word goes there? ) Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-17-2003, 02:46 PM	#6
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	good job, fuck those rats

10-17-2003, 02:49 PM	#8
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,308	Wow, what a bunch of fucking name-droppers.

10-17-2003, 02:50 PM	#9
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,727	Their stock is starting to slide a bit...The ask/bid ratio was about 20:1 last night.

10-17-2003, 02:50 PM	#10
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	Did they send you those articles??? And they're actually telling you that LFP and Wicked and others signed? Sounds like the ACACIA dimwits are the ones who are scared, to me! __________________

10-17-2003, 02:51 PM	#11
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	Fuck em I got over 50+ domains lets play this game, its now 3rd quarter and the adult industry has plenty up their sleeves, they can stop my domain I have now but I will always OWN the mailing lsit which I can still reach customers with a new domain, then another new domain, then another new domain, and etc. And if they don't like I will close up shop, file bankruptcy and tell them to suck my ass. FUCK OFF AND DIE ACACIA __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

10-17-2003, 02:52 PM	#12
fiveyes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,680	As much as you may hate it, ignoring them is the last thing you want to do. Get a lawyer, and get one quick. If they get a default judgement against you, they'll lock you out. Already did it once before and they used it for another press release. __________________ <CENTER><A HREF="http://www.hot-off-bourbon.com/" target="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.hot-off-bourbon.com/images/hob-logosmall.jpg" border="0"></A> <FONT face="Comic Sans MS" SIZE="-1"><I>Mardi Gras, Spring Break, Wet-T, Night Club Action, UpSkirt, Oil Wrestling, Voyeur</I></FONT></CENTER>

10-17-2003, 03:00 PM	#17
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	See the one thing alot of people miss is the fact that an LLC or INc covers your ass in court cases such as this, anyone ever watch the movie where the insurance company lost to a family who's son had died and the insurance company denied their claim for years and they owed the family millions of dollars, so they turned around and filed bankruptcy and the family never got a cent, there are other waysin life to make money then by feeding these bottom feeders with the likes of our wallets, fuck them and their mommas too. __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

10-17-2003, 03:18 PM	#19
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	In case you dont want to click a link...

10-17-2003, 03:19 PM	#20
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	As part of the CE settlement wasnt there a non disclosure type deal setup? If so, why are they mentioning them in the letter huh?

10-17-2003, 03:25 PM	#22
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	those acacia fucks are so comical. 47 out of thousands and every one of those 47 was nothing but a sweetheart deal. Eventually they need to try and get a real non-sweetheart license, and then resistance will stiffen even more. 30 million in the bank dont go that far fighting dozens of lawsuits and peanuts coming in.

10-17-2003, 06:43 PM	#26
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	the fact they include copies of media coverage is a fucking joke. Really.. Next time theyll include testimonials.

10-17-2003, 08:48 PM	#35
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	Fuck 'em. This is America, sue them back for emotional distress.

10-17-2003, 09:57 PM	#36
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	Brent I thought you only supplied your video on CD and not as downloadable? I agree with you I would rather shut my sites and email my customers to go to a url hosted in Red fucking China before I paid them 1 cent. __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!