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[AnalProbe]

MEDIA PLAY

by Steven M. Greer M.D.
Director, The Disclosure Project

http://www.disclosureproject.org


Copyright 2004


Conventional Wisdom has it that we live in a free and open society with a free press, which plays the role of a key check and balance on government secrecy and abuse. This and other fantasies, foisted on a gullible public, have enabled runaway illegal secret projects to get away with murder, and they are now on the verge of planeticide - the killing of an entire planet.


The truth is that we have free media - so long as it is inconsequential. That is, freedom of the press exists so long as it is exercised within a certain sphere of influence that does not reach a critical mass of significance. Sure, you can say and write anything - so long as it does not get placed in front of the masses in an honest way. The quaint notion of a free press, serving as the Fourth Estate and watching vigilantly over the interests of The People is one of the great lies perpetrated by the government, and by the corporate media itself. Every insider knows this is a lie.


Big Media must be distinguished from the media in general, insofar as the former is utterly corrupted and the latter is sequestered into spheres of limited influence and significance. Mass retail media - the nightly news, CNN, The NY Times, The Washington Post, Newsweek, Time and the like are less free on anything of real significance than the media of many third world countries - or even communist China.


We know, because we have beta tested the system. (More on this later.)


The implications of this corruption cannot be overestimated. In the world today, the corrupt, dumbed-down and controlled Big Media is the central reason for significant investigations being killed, illegal secrecy persisting and major scientific breakthroughs being suppressed.


Without the cooperation, compliance and corruption of Big Media, the shadowy programs that keep the world burning could in no way prevail. In fact, when recently asked by a member of Congress how these illegal operations persist and flourish, I had to tell him it was primarily due to the fact that Big Media give them a free pass.


Years ago, while at a gathering in New York City with Laurence Rockefeller and a few other influential people in the city, Bob Schwartz, a noted journalist who had been on the Board of Time Life (before it was Time Warner, or AOL Time Warner etc, etc) flat out told me that the Big Media "?ad become scribes taking dictation from the right hand of the king?" rather than really functioning as a free press and the Fourth Estate. He proceeded to tell me how he had given his friend Mike Wallace of CBS´ 60 Minutes a number of government documents on UFOs, and that Mr. Wallace wanted to pursue the story, but ultimately dropped it due to pressure from ´somewhere´.


Now, Big Media will tell you that the UFO matter is closed, that the Air Force looked into UFOs and ended Project Blue Book with a report from the Condon Committee that essentially said there was nothing to study. This is one of the Big Lies and can be proven to be so. But every Big Media outlet in the US holds to this line, notwithstanding overwhelming evidence to the contrary - and the fact that we can now prove that Dr. Condon himself corrupted the study and was on the payroll of the shadowy projects keeping the matter secret!


Essentially, America has no free press of any significance when it comes to real investigative reporting, government secrecy or serious technology breakthroughs dealing with energy and propulsion systems that could replace Big Oil. The Big Media is vertically and horizontally integrated into a large corporate and quasi-governmental matrix of shadowy interests and corrupting influences. In no way is the major media in America free, nor has it been for decades.


In the late 1990s I met with a senior reporter for the Washington Post, whose beat included government, military and national security issues, who told me that he was sitting on rather explosive files on a number of issues (hint: we were talking about secret underground facilities and certain genetic experiments that are ongoing). When I asked him when they would run that story he winked and said, "Oh Dr. Greer, you know that nothing important is ever printed in the Washington Post. We will never print that kind of story and, if anything, we will work to debunk it if it appears anywhere else?" When I asked him, "Well what about the Fourth Estate - our free media being a check and balance on government and extreme secrecy that is out of control?" he said, "You know that doesn´t exist anymore?" We had a drink and went on our way.


Senior government officials, members of Congress and top Pentagon officials with whom I have met have cited media infiltration, corruption and ridicule as the main reason they steer clear of certain areas. Why look into super-secret UFO related projects if you will only be shellacked by the Big Media as Senator Moon Beam?


Of course, many people in the media never look into these issues since they have blindly accepted the party line and bought into the ridicule and disinformation surrounding the subject. A lack of independent investigation, and a prevailing prejudice, prevents most journalists from even giving a cursory look into these controversies. A senior editor for the Boston Globe once told me that they would never run a story on UFOs "?ven if you put a dead ET on my desk?" since such topics were the stuff of the low-end tabloids. (I guess 24/7 coverage of titillating details of sexual escapades and lurid murders are ok, however.) Persistent ridicule and a glib dismissal of ´conspiracy´ theorists and ´UFO believers´ are about as far as most journalists get. The facts are seldom investigated, and on the rare occasion when they are, the story is blocked.


It is also an open secret that the intelligence community has infiltrated and used the media for decades. What is not acknowledged is the extent to which the Big Media are controlled by corrupt interests that are the antithesis of freedom. It is a pervasive problem that is subtly managed very quietly, but anyone who has gotten close to the truth on a really Big Story that these interests want kept secret know what happens.


Such journalists walk into the mother of all buzzsaws, and learn very quickly how un-free the Big Media really is. Into The Buzzsaw, with a foreword by Gore Vidal, is a book that recounts the experiences of a number of journalists who came across a story that ´they´ did not want out -and who found out how ruthless media suppression really is.


The crown jewel of secrecy is the collection of projects that deal with advanced technologies, energy systems, propulsion systems - and UFO matters - that, once disclosed, would end the need for oil, gas, coal or nuclear power. The corruption and secrecy surrounding this issue is like none other - it is in a class of its own. The media can only cover the subject either in a cavalier or dismissive way - or through direct disinformation and ridicule. No honest investigative report has ever appeared, over time, on this subject in any Big Media outlet - not in over 50 years of secrecy. Why?


Because they are not allowed to do it. And if they did, it would mark the end of their career and possibly their lives. It is not an overstatement to say that I have spoken to mainstream journalist who evince palpable fear when the matter is brought up.


Of course, because of sensational cases of ´investigative reporting´ like Watergate, Monica-gate and the like, the public believe the media is this fierce watch dog guarding the interests of the people and courageously ferreting out the truth. If only.


Sure, Big Media can have 24/7 coverage of trivial matters like a President´s private sex life (NEWS FLASH: Powerful men are known to have affairs and may even - gasp - lie about it!). Or a bungled and clumsy break-in at the Watergate. But the really big stories are never printed, the research is not allowed, and the truth is only whispered about privately, and carefully.


Shills in the Big Media are the central reason why the truth about many matters of great importance will never be told. Sure they will tell you about a titillating scandal, or about a tax cut, or a bombing. But get close to stories related to real power, and these Big Media hacks run the other way.


The proof?


In May of 2001, The Disclosure Project (www.DisclosureProject.org) held a major international press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC. Hosted by legendary White House reporter Sarah McClendon, the event featured over 20 top-secret government, military, intelligence and corporate witnesses to UFO events and projects. No flakes amongst these: The witness testimony presented ranged from Brig. General to Colonels to a top FAA official. The National Press Club ballroom was packed with media from around the world and the event was - briefly - reported on CNN, BBC, Fox and many other outlets.


This two-hour event was the most watched live press event on the Internet and eventually over 1 million people saw the event on the net. We called for a full investigation into illegal covert programs dealing with UFOs and covert energy and propulsion projects. Congressional hearings were requested and the media were asked to fully investigate the matter. Tens of thousands of people wrote members of Congress and the US President asking for full, open, honest hearings at which some of the over 400 military and government-connected witnesses identified by The Disclosure Project could testify. (The reader may read the testimony of over 5 dozen of these witnesses in the book Disclosure or view their testimony at www.DisclosureProject.org).

[AnalProbe]

Interestingly, the first hour of the event was externally electronically jammed by "someone outside the Press Club", according to Internet hosting company Connect Live. (Sources later confirmed that this was an electronic warfare jamming of the broadcast.)


Senior producers at two Big Media networks, who had been briefed in advance and were planning major exposes in their newsmagazine programs, later told me that they were not allowed to go forward with their investigations or broadcast the programs. When I asked why, they simply said, "They just won´t let us do it." And when I ask who are ´they´, I was told, "Dr. Greer, you know who they are?"


Indeed.


Here, smoking gun evidence, official government documents and dozens of credible, corroborated, top-secret witnesses were presented to the world´s major media - and Big Media did virtually nothing. On major stories, involving controversial matters, I am told the New York Times requires three points of corroboration. Here, dozens were presented, from men and women with impeccable credentials and high national security clearances - and they were not anonymous sources, but presented with name, rank and serial number! But the coverage was brief (just enough to allow for ´plausible freedom of the press´, I am told by insiders) and then quickly taken down. And no Big Media entity was allowed to do serious follow-up investigations. And none have occurred up to this date.


Such ´editorial discretion´ has been abused hundreds of times to keep big stories out of the major media. People do not realize it, but we already live in an extremely controlled and closed society that is micro-managed by an elite few - all the while looking populist, democratic and open. As I write this a few miles from Thomas Jefferson´s home, Monticello, I can feel him spinning in his grave?


Meanwhile, it is up to us to get the truth out, notwithstanding the overwhelming force and corruption of the Big Media. It is almost too late - but not quite. With a Herculean effort, we might yet get the facts out before the public before the control freaks run the entire biosphere into the ground and we end up, Mad Max-like, fighting over the last barrel of oil in endless oil wars.


Perhaps someone in Big Media will step up to the plate and do the matter justice. But more likely, we need to identify a financial sponsor to start what I am calling "The Disclosure Network" via satellite. With adequate funding, we could begin real investigative reporting on issues that really matter - and renew the promise of a free press.


Until then, spread the word and get the truth out. Ultimately, if the people will lead the leaders will follow. Time is getting short for the corrupt corporate Big Media to regain its role as the Fourth Estate. And the earth cannot take another 50 years of ecological abuse, geopolitical instability born out of the injustice of poverty, and more oil wars. It is up to us to change course and create the sustainable civilization necessary for peace. For without peace there can be no future - and peace is impossible without truth, an open society and justice. There is time to act, but we must act now.


Steven M. Greer MD
Director, Disclosure Project
http://www.DisclosureProject.org
29 April 2004
Albemarle County, Virginia

[Buff]

What an abosute crock of horse shit. I watched your 2 hour video and I laughed my ass off when that douchebag who claimed to have seen a whole bunch of aliens including one shot dead at the end of some runway hemmed and hawwed when he was asked to describe what they look like:

"Uhhhh sure I could, but it would take a while... we have catalogued 53 species..."

or some shit like that. And that woman!! Hahaha what a fucking loon.

You are some gullible motherfuckers. The whole theme of this looney conspiracy is "We are not alone." In fact, that's the theme of all you ET types. What are you missing in your lives that makes you so lonely?

Here's the funny thing: So we've got these space aliens who build vehicles that travel faster than light speed across 100s of billions of miles of space to get to Earth and examine us, and their spaceships with all that advanced technology can't hide from our radar and crash into our planet!??!!!

WHAT THE FUCK?

Our own stealth technology hides from radar. Hell, our F-15s can't even see our F-22s! One F-22 took out 5 F-15s in a simulation without the F-15s ever finding it on radar once.

But here's a fucking super space craft that can't even stay off our radar or fly without crashing into the Earth?

What the fuck ever.

Anyone want to buy some property on the moon? I am selling plots right outside the Alien moonbase -- sure to appreciate in value when they go looking to expand!

[AnalProbe]

Buff, you are very smart and very convinced of yourself.

That's why I see so many questionmarks in your posts.

[Buff]

Originally posted by AnalProbe
Buff, you are very smart and very convinced of yourself.

That's why I see so many questionmarks in your posts.

And you believe in a conspiracy by the US Government and its "Shadow Government Counterpart" which requires an absurd amount of improbable contingencies to exist all at once.

The idea that the government could conceal spaceship crashes and alien corpses is so ludicrous... Ask yourself this: what is the government good at? What does it do well?

The answer: NOTHING. Especially nothing involving secrecy. Our intelligence community is cited for failure after failure. We can't catch Bin Laden. Our own FBI agents (Hanson) betray our covert operatives. Our Los Alamos lab loses top secret lap tops and sensitive information all the time. JUST YESTERDAY came word that the lab lost HIGHLY sensitive NUCLEAR WEAPONS information which was on floppy disk or CD.

This is the same government you think can cover up something as huge as aliens? Not one picture? 1 single still picture? Not one can be produced?

The Russians can buy off our FBI and CIA agents for a few thousand dollars, but no one can buy off one of the "Shadow Government" guys?

But go ahead and believe in your superstitions.

1 single solitary picture....

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff


Here's the funny thing: So we've got these space aliens who build vehicles that travel faster than light speed across 100s of billions of miles of space to get to Earth and examine us, and their spaceships with all that advanced technology can't hide from our radar and crash into our planet!??!!!

WHAT THE FUCK?

Our own stealth technology hides from radar. Hell, our F-15s can't even see our F-22s! One F-22 took out 5 F-15s in a simulation without the F-15s ever finding it on radar once.

But here's a fucking super space craft that can't even stay off our radar or fly without crashing into the Earth?

What the fuck ever.

Buff, Buff... such a long post yet so much air in it...

Is the fact that we can get them on radar is THE PROOF that its all bs and we should now dismiss all other concrete and circumstantial evidences we have on the subject? mmmh that doesnt really make sense does it?...

Some food for tought here... why would you think its such an issue that they dont use any anti-radar system if fighter pilots and people on the ground can see them!?... mmmh.. maybe because they dont seem to care... Why would they?

[Buff]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Buff, Buff... such a long post yet so much air in it...

Is the fact that we can get them on radar is THE PROOF that its all bs and we should now dismiss all other concrete and circumstantial evidences we have on the subject? mmmh that doesnt really make sense does it?...

Some food for tought here... why would you think its such an issue that they dont use any anti-radar system if fighter pilots and people on the ground can see them!?... mmmh.. maybe because they dont seem to care... Why would they?

So they don't mind being shot dead at the end of runways? That's weird. Seems like they should either present themselves to us so we don't consider them a threat, or hide from us so we don't attack them.

Nah, your way makes much more sense.

[Za Ha]

Originally posted by Buff
And you believe in a conspiracy by the US Government and its "Shadow Government Counterpart" which requires an absurd amount of improbable contingencies to exist all at once.

The idea that the government could conceal spaceship crashes and alien corpses is so ludicrous... Ask yourself this: what is the government good at? What does it do well?

The answer: NOTHING. Especially nothing involving secrecy. Our intelligence community is cited for failure after failure. We can't catch Bin Laden. Our own FBI agents (Hanson) betray our covert operatives. Our Los Alamos lab loses top secret lap tops and sensitive information all the time. JUST YESTERDAY came word that the lab lost HIGHLY sensitive NUCLEAR WEAPONS information which was on floppy disk or CD.

This is the same government you think can cover up something as huge as aliens? Not one picture? 1 single still picture? Not one can be produced?

The Russians can buy off our FBI and CIA agents for a few thousand dollars, but no one can buy off one of the "Shadow Government" guys?

But go ahead and believe in your superstitions.

1 single solitary picture....

I totally agree with this post.
EVERYONE HAS A PRICE. It doesnt have to be in the form of $, it can be a threat to kill off a few ppl you love and you will do anything.

If there was a "secret government" someone would leak it out. It is impossible to have a big group that big to be that secret. Do they just kill ppl who they suspect will speak out? DO you really think that so many ppl exsist that will just kill an innocent person so that some information doesnt go out? Or do they use that thing from Men In Black to erase their memory?

I am not close minded to other forms of life on other planets. I even believe in aliens somewhere out there. Nevertheless, the idea of a "secret government" is just out of this world. If it existed, some pictures and information would have leaked out by now.

Something that big is IMPOSSIBLE to hide! And dont tell me nothing is impossible.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff
So they don't mind being shot dead at the end of runways? That's weird. Seems like they should either present themselves to us so we don't consider them a threat, or hide from us so we don't attack them.

Nah, your way makes much more sense.

Try to keep up.. IF they do exist.. the US government has been knowing it for at least the least 50 years... In that case.. they know better than to attack them.. lol Think for a second.. like we have a chance in hell of winning... So if they exist.. they know they are more than safe...

[Buff]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


Try to keep up.. IF they do exist.. the US government has been knowing it for at least the least 50 years... In that case.. they know better than to attack them.. lol Think for a second.. like we have a chance in hell of winning... So if they exist.. they know they are more than safe...

So you didn't watch the video. A guy said that he watched MPs shoot an alien dead at the end of a runway. This was only 15 or 20 years ago.

Try to keep up.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff
And you believe in a conspiracy by the US Government and its "Shadow Government Counterpart" which requires an absurd amount of improbable contingencies to exist all at once.

Is it complex? yes it is.. I dont have all the info.. and im not saying it certain that ETs exist... However.. I know it would be pretty dumb to dismiss all the concrete and circumstantial evidences we have on the subject because we have difficulty understanding how all of this is beeing handle within the government...

From what I get.. presidents dont know about it.. but who says Top army guys or people like Rumsfeld are left in the dark.. I would sure love to know more details about all this if anyone has some...

[Buff]

Originally posted by Za Ha
I totally agree with this post.
EVERYONE HAS A PRICE. It doesnt have to be in the form of $, it can be a threat to kill off a few ppl you love and you will do anything.

If there was a "secret government" someone would leak it out. It is impossible to have a big group that big to be that secret. Do they just kill ppl who they suspect will speak out? DO you really think that so many ppl exsist that will just kill an innocent person so that some information doesnt go out? Or do they use that thing from Men In Black to erase their memory?

I am not close minded to other forms of life on other planets. I even believe in aliens somewhere out there. Nevertheless, the idea of a "secret government" is just out of this world. If it existed, some pictures and information would have leaked out by now.

Something that big is IMPOSSIBLE to hide! And dont tell me nothing is impossible.

And how does it get financed? Congress could shut their funding off in 30 seconds.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff
So you didn't watch the video. A guy said that he watched MPs shoot an alien dead at the end of a runway. This was only 15 or 20 years ago.

Try to keep up.

From what I got.. a MP was shot by a laser beem.. but i can be wrong... But in either case.. Shooting one alien in self defense is far from the US government launching a war against them... Seems like an isolated incident..

[The Bootyologist]

Originally posted by mardigras
He needs an appearance on Queer Eye for the Alien Guy

[Buff]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
From what I got.. a MP was shot by a laser beem.. but i can be wrong... But in either case.. Shooting one alien in self defense is far from the US government launching a war against them... Seems like an isolated incident..

My point is that if they kept hidden, they wouldn't get shot! That's the whole point.

Obviously they have the technology to stay hidden. Why not use it?

[Dagwolf]

Dang, that's long...

[xxxdesign-net]

Btw.. there as been many proofs of government cover ups on the subject.. just think of Roswell and Project Blue book amongs many many others...

[The Bootyologist]

Hi, I'm your fairy Godmother

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff
My point is that if they kept hidden, they wouldn't get shot! That's the whole point.

Obviously they have the technology to stay hidden. Why not use it?

what are you talking about? technology to stay hidden? As I understand.. hidding from the radars as nothing to do with the event you are talking about....

[Buff]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
what are you talking about? technology to stay hidden? As I understand.. hidding from the radars as nothing to do with the event you are talking about....

Maybe I'm just not being clear.

Ok, there are these aliens right? They have advanced technology, right? They should be able to avoid our radar, right? They should be fly without detection, right? So we should never know they exist, unless they want us to, right?

Now we can assume they don't want us to know they exist, because if they did, they'd land at noon in Central Park and hold a press conference.

We can also assume they are incompetent, because they CAN'T avoid our radar, even though we have the means to avoid radar. Also, they crash a lot. Furthermore, we have captured some of them and even killed one.

Now I submit that all of these conditions end up being mutually exclusive. If they have the technology to fly faster than light speed and cross hundreds of millions of miles of space and fly at 10s of 1000s of miles per hour in our atmosphere, then it stands to reason they can avoid crashing into our planet and they can avoid being detected.

But they have crashed and they have been detected.

Therefore, you're proposing a race of aliens with characteristics which are in opposition to each other.

[Lane]

Originally posted by eiht_98
Look...this is an alien

KLAATU!!

[AnalProbe]

Buff,

You've made your point multiple times now.

We're not that dumb to not understand your simple questions.

So I ask you kindly and respectfully to please go fuck yourself.

[Buff]

Originally posted by AnalProbe
Buff,

You've made your point multiple times now.

We're not that dumb to not understand your simple questions.

So I ask you kindly and respectfully to please go fuck yourself.

And you have no intelligent response and no visual evidence, so my reply is eat a dick.

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by Buff
And you have no intelligent response and no visual evidence, so my reply is eat a dick.

Give me visual evidence of the moment your parents made you.

If you can't, you don't exist.

[BRISK]

I'm an alien.

[Buff]

Originally posted by AnalProbe
Give me visual evidence of the moment your parents made you.

If you can't, you don't exist.

Yeah, see above about you not having an intelligent response.

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by Buff
Yeah, see above about you not having an intelligent response.

Who's the dumb fucker here ?

Here some recent threads started by Buff :

"Soccer is a Homosexual Socialist Sport "
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=317591

"I Need You To Reply At Your Earliest Convenience " (no replies)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=317603

"Look at the Stupid Thread Underneath This One!" (4 replies)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=315528

Most of your threads/posts are about homosexuality.

Thinking about coming out of the closet, but shitting your pants ?

Start your own zeroview thread and post as much if you like.

Here we have some "intelligent response" from your spamming habbits through "Listings Incorporated" in Harvey, LA, aka "Blue Mongoose" in Gretna, LA :

http://www.askbuff.com
http://www.2cr.com
http://www.adultmail.net

etc. etc.


You spammed in 1999

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=11

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=12

You spammed in 2000

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...aol.com&rnum=6

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=13

You spammed in 2002

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...inki.fi&rnum=4

You spammed in 2004

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2....rr.com&rnum=3

Thanks to Kelvin Richards, Hanke Bronson, Noah Lieske.

Now, who's the dumb asshole here ?

[AnalProbe]

Oh, and you wanted visual evidence of an alien ?

Here we have one :



It's not the most precious or attractive thing there is, but at least it's something to study in a lab.

Scientists call it "the jungle-alien of the tranny tribe".

If you save the pic, it will show as buffsbabe.jpg on your HD.

[teadrinker]

LOL i have a feeling buff will stop posting

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by teadrinker
LOL i have a feeling buff will stop posting

[the indigo]

Originally posted by Buff
Just one clear picture or video. Is that too much to ask? 100 Trillion people have seen UFOs but not 1 video. Show me one CLEAR video. Thanks.

You can't make 5 millions in this industry in your first year.

Sorry, I don't have a video.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by Yngwie
oh, but there's a GOD right?? yes, an invisible being up in the fucking clouds that requires you to praise him all the time.. Sorry to say but if you actually think we are alone in the universe you're very closed minded. Of course most people will think others are nutcases when they say they saw something in the sky. This way "they" can keep the secret well hidden while people get made out to be insane.

I've seeen my share of strange shit in the sky but I've yet to see amy sign of this so called GOD idiot

Are you calling Buff an idiot or God an idiot? Just because you haven't seen him is no reason to risk getting yourself into ... er HOT water later

If there were aliens capable of surviving or bypassing the time needed to get to Earth from a distant galaxy they would have learned long ago our planet is too hostile for intellligent life

Trillions of planets/stars and other objects spewing from the same supposed big bang and our little chunk of rock is the only thing in all of that to develop life? What a cosmic waste, I'd feel like an idiot if I believed that

[Praguer]

Originally posted by AnalProbe
Who's the dumb fucker here ?

Here some recent threads started by Buff :

"Soccer is a Homosexual Socialist Sport "
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=317591

"I Need You To Reply At Your Earliest Convenience " (no replies)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=317603

"Look at the Stupid Thread Underneath This One!" (4 replies)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=315528

Most of your threads/posts are about homosexuality.

Thinking about coming out of the closet, but shitting your pants ?

Start your own zeroview thread and post as much if you like.

Here we have some "intelligent response" from your spamming habbits through "Listings Incorporated" in Harvey, LA, aka "Blue Mongoose" in Gretna, LA :

http://www.askbuff.com
http://www.2cr.com
http://www.adultmail.net

etc. etc.


You spammed in 1999

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=11

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=12

You spammed in 2000

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...aol.com&rnum=6

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...et.com&rnum=13

You spammed in 2002

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...inki.fi&rnum=4

You spammed in 2004

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2....rr.com&rnum=3

Thanks to Kelvin Richards, Hanke Bronson, Noah Lieske.

Now, who's the dumb asshole here ?

That's quite a curriculum

[doober]

Analprobe please dont be offended by buff and the other morons living with the shutters on their eyes.
I for one truly appreciate this thread and think its a really good one and a change from buffs homophobic threads.

The ones that choose to look closer are the ones able to truly not be influenced and form any opnion because of the media and other bullshit that is constantly spewed in your face to make you believe otherwise.

Beleive or dont beleive it changes nothing.
Most people have already subconsciously made their choices and beleifs long ago. ie: buff
At the very least its entertaining for people that arent able to open their mind up to "the remote possibility" that there is any validity to it, to watch us discuss this as if it were plausible or maybe even true.....
Sincerely awaiting another buff hater post or perhaps even a green men alien reference from some other clueless mind.

[untitled]

Originally posted by Buff
Maybe I'm just not being clear.

Ok, there are these aliens right? They have advanced technology, right? They should be able to avoid our radar, right? They should be fly without detection, right? So we should never know they exist, unless they want us to, right?

Now we can assume they don't want us to know they exist, because if they did, they'd land at noon in Central Park and hold a press conference.

We can also assume they are incompetent, because they CAN'T avoid our radar, even though we have the means to avoid radar. Also, they crash a lot. Furthermore, we have captured some of them and even killed one.

Now I submit that all of these conditions end up being mutually exclusive. If they have the technology to fly faster than light speed and cross hundreds of millions of miles of space and fly at 10s of 1000s of miles per hour in our atmosphere, then it stands to reason they can avoid crashing into our planet and they can avoid being detected.

But they have crashed and they have been detected.

Therefore, you're proposing a race of aliens with characteristics which are in opposition to each other.

yep, if aliens existed they'd have infinite capabilities and resources to do whatever the hell they want while they fly above other worlds trillions of miles away from there home planet, there equipment would work 100% 24/7 as expected in every conceivable enviroment known in the universe, and they'd never make any mistakes ever, even while navigating possible hostile territory... only humans would make these mistakes.

[zentz]

Originally posted by Honeyslut
Just smack me with an anal dildo..

your sig is fucked up

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by mardigras
...no reason to risk getting yourself into ... er HOT water later

Are you comparing Buff with hot water ?

More like meltwater.

I call that megalomaniac idiot Darth Vapor.

Originally posted by Praguer
That's quite a curriculum

Originally posted by doober
Analprobe please dont be offended by buff...

...

Sincerely awaiting another buff hater post or perhaps even a green men alien reference from some other clueless mind.

I asked him twice to get lost, three times is too much.

I'm glad there are more openminded guys like you here.

About the video :

I still think it is great stuff, in different ways.

Even if it would all be fake, it would be great SF.

[SureFire]

Interesting?especially about scalar technology.

[mardigras]

Hustory channel ran an interesting program on UFOs today, will run again on the 19th
http://www.historychannel.com/global...Ne twCode=THC

[TurboTrucker]

There's no real proof, just speculation and stories. I pity people who accept stories as proof.

Originally posted by Buff
Still no one has one single picture or video? I'm patient. Take your time.

[TurboTrucker]

Funny, all I saw were HUMANS telling stories. Here's a tip - just because someone says it, that doesn't make it true. BTW I'm the top director at NASA and I'm typing this from a spaceship.

Originally posted by AnalProbe
You thought Fahrenheit 911 was something ?

Take some strong coffee, cause this will change your mind forever.

This is one of the most revealing information you will ever see :


http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm


Normally I'm full of jokes, but I'm dead serious now.

Download the video, watch it, and please keep this thread a little serious.

[Fizzgig]

Read:

Chariots of the Gods?
And
The Book of Enoch (an original biblical book taken out long ago because it was far too revealing and against what people WANT to believe)
(I didn't watch the video or whatever that this thread is about)


I always chuckle about the ignorance of humankind, being able to easily believe in spiritual gods (that did NOT come from the Earth, they/he/she created it!) yet, you mention life from other worlds and they laugh in your face.
*sigh* people are so fucking stupid.
I'm atheist, by the way. I believe in evolution and I sure hope it happens soon.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by Buff
Maybe I'm just not being clear.

Ok, there are these aliens right? They have advanced technology, right? They should be able to avoid our radar, right? They should be fly without detection, right? So we should never know they exist, unless they want us to, right?

Now we can assume they don't want us to know they exist, because if they did, they'd land at noon in Central Park and hold a press conference.

We can also assume they are incompetent, because they CAN'T avoid our radar, even though we have the means to avoid radar. Also, they crash a lot. Furthermore, we have captured some of them and even killed one.

Now I submit that all of these conditions end up being mutually exclusive. If they have the technology to fly faster than light speed and cross hundreds of millions of miles of space and fly at 10s of 1000s of miles per hour in our atmosphere, then it stands to reason they can avoid crashing into our planet and they can avoid being detected.

But they have crashed and they have been detected.

Therefore, you're proposing a race of aliens with characteristics which are in opposition to each other.

lol you make me laugh with your "mutually exclusive".... dont use a term you do not fully comprehend...

Again. alot of air in your post...

We are 1000x more advance then we were in year 500 when ships were sinking... yet we still have ships sinking... Hows the fact that there has been 2 or 3 UFO crashes in 50 years a proof that ETs dont exist?? lol...

You know what.. chances are that we will be able to travel at extreme distance in a pretty near future... 200 years from now maybe? You think we'll also have the ability to be invincible and no more crashes or system malfunctions will EVER occur..? lol




All you do is raise "interesting" questions which in no way however is the PROOF that ETs dont exists and that all you ear or see on the subjects are elaborate conspirations...

Btw.. what do you make of the video from this thread..? THey are all playing a game? a big haox? All those high ranked military and NASA people putting their reputation on the line for the hoax? Putting their reputation on the line... subjecting themselves to ridicule... for a hoax they know will barely make the local newspaper... Putting all this work, pages and pages of documents proving what they are saying, getting witnesses to testifies... all for a big laugh..? Maybe the Belgium government is also participating in the hoax... The Russian government also who are pretty vocal on the subject.. Maybe Ronald Reagan and couple Astronauts saying they saw UFOs are also playing us... And im only scratching the surface here... I can go on and on... But you surely have an explanation for all of this right.. !? And hope your explanation has nothing to do with an anti-radar...

[Buff]

Originally posted by Praguer
That's quite a curriculum

You've got me confused with the people who host my personal site. I have never spammed anyone ever.

Damn, my fiancee is fucking hot.

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by Buff
You've got me confused with the people who host my personal site. I have never spammed anyone ever.

Typical weak spammer's defense.

What are you saying ? You're too dumb to spam by yourself ?

Damn, my fiancee is fucking hot.

You mean your new pet that looks like a tranny monkey ?

The different items she is wearing don't match at all !

Even Madonna looked better in 1986.


This explains your condition :

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/B0531700.wav

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/M0199200.wav

[KRL]

I seriously can't believe the ignorance in threads like this.

Fuck almighty just look at the timeline and you can figure it out.

Humans with brains evolved about 100,000 years ago. Look at a picture of how we lived 150 years ago to how we live today, from a technology standpoint.

You have a flat line for 99,850 years and then the technology curve skews off the charts straight up.

Hello.

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by KRL
I seriously can't believe the ignorance in threads like this.

Fuck almighty just look at the timeline and you can figure it out.

Humans with brains evolved about 100,000 years ago. Look at a picture of how we lived 150 years ago to how we live today, from a technology standpoint.

You have a flat line for 99,850 years and then the technology curve skews off the charts straight up.

Hello.

The "ignorants" are the biggest tribe on earth.

Problem is that they, indoctrinated by media, schools and THEIR parents, learn their children to become the same ignorant they are themselves.

You'll never really reach these people after a certain age.

Those who control the school(budget), those who hold down critical music, newspapers, and books (publishers),and those who write the historybooks dictate the way new generations create opinions about history, present, and future.

We're all so educated > read > brainwashed.

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by SureFire
Interesting?especially about scalar technology.

How about the free energy part ?

Start doing research and develop new ways of generating energy.

You will not get old.

[Buff]

Originally posted by AnalProbe
Typical weak spammer's defense.

What are you saying ? You're too dumb to spam by yourself ?




You mean your new pet that looks like a tranny monkey ?

The different items she is wearing don't match at all !

Even Madonna looked better in 1986.


This explains your condition :

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/B0531700.wav

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/M0199200.wav

I have never spammed because I have nothing to spam. Idiot. I got paid to fuck, not spam.

Do you really think your ridiculous claims about my fiancee are taken seriously by anyone?

You're a joke. Call me when the aliens land again.

[montel]

buff, the contention of the video is that the reason none of this stuff gets reported is that anyone who mentions anything about ufo's gets called a crank... this is why you think that nothing has been leaked- any leaks are dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic.