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Old 07-20-2004, 07:02 AM   #201
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:02 AM   #202
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I can't believe it...even the almighty KRL is a hypocrite...

If you buy the domains for "traffic" where is the "traffic" coming from? It's coming from the people that were LOOKING FOR THE BEHEADING VIDEO....

So if you made even a dollar off of it, YOU'RE just as sick as you're saying the CJ dude is.

This is a Historic day...It seems like EVERYBODY is a hypocrite in some way or another.
there are diferent levels....
Noone is perfect but KRL still seems to have morals.

There was a thread yestarday ( not sure if i read it right, i just skimmed it ) - where Rick Latona wanted to donate to some organisation the name lolittas.com but he's making profit from beheading videos or animal cruelty...

That's completely no morals. BTW i really wonder why he cannot use the name "lolittas" to promote a teen paysite - he should know that in the rest of the world "lolitas" simply means "teens" and there are several adult sposnors that will accept this traffic.

Anyway, back to topic - i never watched any beheading videos or never will watch any cruelty video.
As someone mentioned, this is one of the reasons i hate this biz - there are people with completely no morals here, who will do anything for a buck.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:02 AM   #203
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you should all do that pull CJbucks links and watch him die !!
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:04 AM   #204
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You know, take this for what its worth, but judging by the response on this thread and the other threads discussing this cat cruelty video, most people here are really really disturbed by it and said it could affect their business relationship with CJ.

It sure will, i will never do biz with him after watching this but i guess he probably doesn't give a damn. I do though http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=328420
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:06 AM   #205
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At the very least CJ should pull that line. That's making a joke of cruelty. The average person will not laugh once they see what the hot pussy really is.

You know, take this for what its worth, but judging by the response on this thread and the other threads discussing this cat cruelty video, most people here are really really disturbed by it and said it could affect their business relationship with CJ.

Now think about the average surfer on CJ. Yeh cool looking at unique content. Funny, bizarre, off the wall, pushing the edge, etc. and then they come to that video.

I'd bet a lot of CJ's surfers seeing that are going to be as disturbed as much as we are and see CJ in a different light after viewing it.

Bottom line, that video will do more harm than good. And you know in this conservative legal environment the last thing you want to push are the tens of millions of cat lovers in the US. All you need is a couple of cat people with powerful positions in the government to see that and you'll have someone who will make it there mission. People have a stronger reaction and determination to this kind of stuff then CP.
very well said, and that is the one thing they should change (cause I know they won't take the video down).....

if the PETA nuts go after ya, it will get ugly....animal rights people are psycho
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:06 AM   #206
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I didnt know CJ has this shit ... Is it legal in US ???
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:08 AM   #207
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:10 AM   #208
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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

Kids are seeing this: talk to their parents. If parents aren't taking active responsiblity on monitoring their children's online activities there's not much we can do. We've got the code in all our sites to block them if the pc is running netnanny or anything like that.

People will think it's cool / you're glorifying it / people will try this just to get on CJ: Other than a tongue in cheek response to the hatemail we're getting on this (here , we've never said we endorsed this type of activit. Who could? Look people, if someone has it in them to do something as horrible as this, they're a ticking time bomb. Do you HONESTLY believe that some decent human being is going to see this video and suddenly go out an torch an animal? The bottom line on this one is we refuse to run our lives or our sites in fear of what some crazy person will do. It's like "don't light your smoke with your zippo! You never know, that guy across the street might be a pyromaniac and seeing the flame might be the one thing that will set him off!"

you're making money off this horrible act: oh yeah. serious bank - not. Aside from the loss of productivity from me spending three days answering emails and defending our actions (we still to this day answer ever surfer email we get), posting this hasn't made us any more money. Yeah, controversy = traffic = $ is the logic I've seen thrown around. But when controversy = traffic but does NOT = more clicks you know what you get? Higher bandwidth bill. Of course, while you haters are at it, why not accuse National-Net of something. They're "technically" making money off this. I'm just making a point, don't actually do it, they're good people and put up with a lot of shit on our behalf.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:13 AM   #209
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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

Kids are seeing this: talk to their parents. If parents aren't taking active responsiblity on monitoring their children's online activities there's not much we can do. We've got the code in all our sites to block them if the pc is running netnanny or anything like that.

People will think it's cool / you're glorifying it / people will try this just to get on CJ: Other than a tongue in cheek response to the hatemail we're getting on this (here , we've never said we endorsed this type of activit. Who could? Look people, if someone has it in them to do something as horrible as this, they're a ticking time bomb. Do you HONESTLY believe that some decent human being is going to see this video and suddenly go out an torch an animal? The bottom line on this one is we refuse to run our lives or our sites in fear of what some crazy person will do. It's like "don't light your smoke with your zippo! You never know, that guy across the street might be a pyromaniac and seeing the flame might be the one thing that will set him off!"

you're making money off this horrible act: oh yeah. serious bank - not. Aside from the loss of productivity from me spending three days answering emails and defending our actions (we still to this day answer ever surfer email we get), posting this hasn't made us any more money. Yeah, controversy = traffic = $ is the logic I've seen thrown around. But when controversy = traffic but does NOT = more clicks you know what you get? Higher bandwidth bill. Of course, while you haters are at it, why not accuse National-Net of something. They're "technically" making money off this. I'm just making a point, don't actually do it, they're good people and put up with a lot of shit on our behalf.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
SO you posted the video to make ppl clear that is NOT good.

Yeah right
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:15 AM   #210
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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
Bottom line is this: you my dear man are now a part of the distribution of such BS. Hope you feel good about it, did you come up yourself with "the hottest putty you have ever seen" ? If you did, congrats, you have a great mind. I have red your entire reply to our posts and to be hounest, i didn't see nothing in your defence, i didn't see one word that could explain why you as a person encourage this by putting it online
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:16 AM   #211
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okay, they breed a cat to do some experiment on it's brain, and we should include a scratch pole, a rubber mouse, and some catnip in the budget?
Why not? You'd want a test subject to be able to live as normally as they would be if not in the lab. If the subject is under undue stress from the lab that have nothing to do with the experiement then depending on what kind of experiment it is the test results cannot be expected to be accurate.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:17 AM   #212
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That is fucking sick.

I'd love to have half an hour with those two degenerates and a baseball bat.
For once, I agree with you.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:22 AM   #213
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Cruelty is a violation of the law in all US states as far as I know.

With respect to lobster, the death is quick and is considered food as is cows and pigs, which are killed quickly also. Kittens are pets.
You could tell by the tameness and good health of the cat in the video it wasn't some stray or wild but someone's pet.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:25 AM   #214
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lobsters can be pets....in the simpsons
LOL, remember Larry the Lobster which Eddie Murphy said he would kill if people didn't write in to save him, and after they did he boiled him anyway?
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SO you posted the video to make ppl clear that is NOT good.

Yeah right
I agree. They even joke about it (check the video title). It's just a fucking lame excuse.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:28 AM   #216
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... People have a stronger reaction and determination to this kind of stuff then CP.
Now that's a very sad social commentary in and of itself....
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never mind what the government and public will think when they hear about a porn company who also profits from extreme aninal cruelty
Nah, that would be more than outshadowed to ash-c-r-o-f-t and co. by the fact the company profits from porn.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:30 AM   #218
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you should all do that pull CJbucks links and watch him die !!
CJ would probably do well just on search traffic and word of mouth from surfers...
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:31 AM   #219
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my 2 cents is, its wrong because its premeditated. If it just happend in normal events, it would still be gross but at least a spontaneous occurance.

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Old 07-20-2004, 07:33 AM   #220
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You know, its funny. I could watch the beheading videos, but I couldnt sit through this one. And its not because I value the life of a cat over that of a human, not in any way, but just the fact that this is not some war, or some political situation gone awry, but just some stupid fucking kids being idiots that could have been easily avoided.
Id like to find those fucking kids and light them on fire. Kids like that will grow up to be serial killers or end up shooting up a classroom full of kids. It's your site, you do what you want, but that shits messed up.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:35 AM   #221
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Anyone care to guess how many advertisers CJ is going to lose over this? I know of one big one for sure. Is there anyone else that is spending a considerable amount of money pulling their ads too?
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:36 AM   #222
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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

Kids are seeing this: talk to their parents. If parents aren't taking active responsiblity on monitoring their children's online activities there's not much we can do. We've got the code in all our sites to block them if the pc is running netnanny or anything like that.

People will think it's cool / you're glorifying it / people will try this just to get on CJ: Other than a tongue in cheek response to the hatemail we're getting on this (here , we've never said we endorsed this type of activit. Who could? Look people, if someone has it in them to do something as horrible as this, they're a ticking time bomb. Do you HONESTLY believe that some decent human being is going to see this video and suddenly go out an torch an animal? The bottom line on this one is we refuse to run our lives or our sites in fear of what some crazy person will do. It's like "don't light your smoke with your zippo! You never know, that guy across the street might be a pyromaniac and seeing the flame might be the one thing that will set him off!"

you're making money off this horrible act: oh yeah. serious bank - not. Aside from the loss of productivity from me spending three days answering emails and defending our actions (we still to this day answer ever surfer email we get), posting this hasn't made us any more money. Yeah, controversy = traffic = $ is the logic I've seen thrown around. But when controversy = traffic but does NOT = more clicks you know what you get? Higher bandwidth bill. Of course, while you haters are at it, why not accuse National-Net of something. They're "technically" making money off this. I'm just making a point, don't actually do it, they're good people and put up with a lot of shit on our behalf.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
Whoa you're calling this ridiculous?

Judging by the reaction of the people on this thread I thinks its a very serious discussion.

There is an edge and I'm sorry but animal cruelty videos portrayed the way it is as "Hot Pussy" is over the edge.
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When I was a little kid, I was looking out the window towards the woods in our back yard and saw smoke and flames. My younger brother had started a fire in a pile of leaves and it was getting out of control. I ran down the hill and started yelling at him to get back so I could start stomping out the fire.

What I didn't know is he had used a bottle of gasoline like in that video to ignite it. Next thing I'm smelling gasoline and thinking oh shit, and it was saturated onto my jeans and my pants were on fire and I started freaking out. Luckily I remembered the best way to put out a fire in that situation is to starting rolling, which I did and it smothered the flames. I got singed on my legs but not badly burned and it hurt like hell. It would have been a complete forrest fire if I hadn't caught it in time.

He said he got the idea from watching some kids starting a fire on a TV show.
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Sadly, I have seen more disturbing videos than this. There is currently a big public controversy over methods for slaughtering horses, and believe me, extreme animal cruelty is alive and well and LEGAL in the United States. Many horse-slaughter videos have been posted online by groups trying to stop this inhumanity and change the current laws.

However, therein lies the difference. To me, putting up a horse-killing video with links to write your congressman to try and change the laws is a lot different than putting up this cat video with the caption "The Hottest Pussy..." It's all in the context.

I think as adult webmasters we all believe in freedom of speech. But few of us support pedophilia which is a lot different than sex between two consenting adults. This video's presentation just glorifies violence and cruelty. There is no other point.
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I understand your point BVF, but then what do you call Google then?

Think how many pedo's go searching for CP round the clock on their service. They make money on that don't they?

Does that make Google a hypocrite? Does that make Google a pedo provider?
Come on man...Are you trying to compare yourself purchasing beheading video domains for profit and GOOGLE? Google is nothing but a mathematical algorithm...It isn't a human being who says "Hey, somebody got beheaded...anybody want to buy my beheading domains?"

And I don't see Google complaining about somebody else doing what they're doing themselves.

You're a millionaire man. You MUST know better than that.
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Yes...There are different levels of hypocrisy. But it's still HYPOCRISY
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Anyone care to guess how many advertisers CJ is going to lose over this? I know of one big one for sure. Is there anyone else that is spending a considerable amount of money pulling their ads too?

Ain't no one taking down there advertising if they make money..
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Ain't no one taking down there advertising if they make money..
Wow, your spelling and grammar make Baby Jesus cry.

I make money with ads on CJ, but I don't need to spend my money with them. There are other sites that are just as profitable.
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Wow, your spelling and grammar make Baby Jesus cry.
Wouldn't it be correct to say, "Wow, your spelling and grammar WOULD make Baby Jesus cry."

Or you could say, "Wow, your spelling and grammar MAKES baby Jesus cry."

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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
I personally believe there is a need for certain extreme content on the web. The beheading videos, bombs droping on large groups of people, a person being attacked by a shark, a suicide, or someone getting killed in a car crash..

It's all nasty stuff, but it can all be argued that it needs to be seen as you say the world is a fucked up place and people should know about it. However this video was not part of war or an accident, it was something done by two fucked up beyond belief kids.. For the simple fact of making the video and showing it, now that is reason enough to not post something like that..

What's next , some kids decide it would be cool to murder someone on video and send it in? Would you post that aswell?
Lastly naming it something like "hot pussy" with out any clear warnings makes it sound like you are making a joke out of the whole thing which is pretty sad.
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:30 AM   #231
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Ain't no one taking down there advertising if they make money..
If your $5000 dollar adult site ad is on the burnt cat page I dont see someone having great conversions.
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:32 AM   #232
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Wouldn't it be correct to say, "Wow, your spelling and grammar WOULD make Baby Jesus cry."

Or you could say, "Wow, your spelling and grammar MAKES baby Jesus cry."

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Old 07-20-2004, 08:41 AM   #233
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i dont like cats but this is mean
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:46 AM   #235
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Cats suck, I hope feline roasting is a trend that CATches on!
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:48 AM   #236
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:50 AM   #237
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I'd be looking for one to blaze up right now but I don't want the little faggots to scratch or bite me.. .
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:52 AM   #238
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If your $5000 dollar adult site ad is on the burnt cat page I dont see someone having great conversions.
notice from my original quote "IF they make money"
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:52 AM   #239
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Cats suck, I hope feline roasting is a trend that CATches on!
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:59 AM   #240
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This is ridiculous. Seriously.

Kids are seeing this: talk to their parents. If parents aren't taking active responsiblity on monitoring their children's online activities there's not much we can do. We've got the code in all our sites to block them if the pc is running netnanny or anything like that.

People will think it's cool / you're glorifying it / people will try this just to get on CJ: Other than a tongue in cheek response to the hatemail we're getting on this (here , we've never said we endorsed this type of activit. Who could? Look people, if someone has it in them to do something as horrible as this, they're a ticking time bomb. Do you HONESTLY believe that some decent human being is going to see this video and suddenly go out an torch an animal? The bottom line on this one is we refuse to run our lives or our sites in fear of what some crazy person will do. It's like "don't light your smoke with your zippo! You never know, that guy across the street might be a pyromaniac and seeing the flame might be the one thing that will set him off!"

you're making money off this horrible act: oh yeah. serious bank - not. Aside from the loss of productivity from me spending three days answering emails and defending our actions (we still to this day answer ever surfer email we get), posting this hasn't made us any more money. Yeah, controversy = traffic = $ is the logic I've seen thrown around. But when controversy = traffic but does NOT = more clicks you know what you get? Higher bandwidth bill. Of course, while you haters are at it, why not accuse National-Net of something. They're "technically" making money off this. I'm just making a point, don't actually do it, they're good people and put up with a lot of shit on our behalf.

So bottom line, why did we post that video? Same reason we post all this fucked up shit: the world is a fucked up lace and we 110% believe that if you WANT to see how fucked up it is, there should be a place to do so. No one FORCES you to come here. We give ample warning. If you want to keep believing the world is a happy place then go surf Disney. I feel bad for that cat for sure. I've got 3 cats, 2 dogs, and a fish tank. I grew up in the sticks of North Carolina and at one point we had 20 cats. Trust me, that video was the WORST thing I've ever seen. I couldn't watch it all the way through the first time. BUT, I guarantee you that there's at least 500,000 people that are more aware of animal cruelty issues today because we posted that video.
Hm..not really the explanation i was hoping for

I was expecting something more in the line of: woops one of our admins was a bit fast on the submission button - video will be removed asap...

then again - nothing in this biz can surprise me anymore.
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You knew damn well what it was and you looked anyway.

Why did you look?

Why do you go to CJ?

Cause you are a sick bastard.

So, Cj posts a video that causes increased love, passion and positive emotion towards cats, and this is a bad thing?

FYI: I have not seen nor do I care to see the video.

Cats Rule! (not really)
Yes you are correct..When you go to CJ you kinda know what you're getting into..I personally don't look at CJ at all..and this is a reason why..I'm not into shit like that, so I don't give them clicks
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:07 AM   #242
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I love the way pornographers aren't phased by extreme things and even beheading videos, yet a cat gets hurt or killed and watch out, hell to pay!

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Old 07-20-2004, 09:11 AM   #243
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I love the way pornographers aren't phased by extreme things and even beheading videos, yet a cat gets hurt or killed and watch out, hell to pay!

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I don't see it like that. I don't think anybody uphere had indirect connections/biz with persons who put videos up of beheading people, i could be wrong though
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:13 AM   #244
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I love the way pornographers aren't phased by extreme things and even beheading videos, yet a cat gets hurt or killed and watch out, hell to pay!

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yea but the reason for the beheading wasnt for entertainment to those iraqis, this is total entertainment to those fuckers lighting the cat on fire, that is not a good enough reason in my book to cause pain to any human nor animal
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yea but the reason for the beheading wasnt for entertainment to those iraqis, this is total entertainment to those fuckers lighting the cat on fire, that is not a good enough reason in my book to cause pain to any human nor animal
Gimme a break, those beheading videos were not entertainment?

Then why do surfers even go to CJ? Whether it be shock/horror or comedy, its ALL entertainment. And entertainment = $$$

And since when has CJ cared about someone's motivation to make a video? I think what matters is the traffic they get from posting them.
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:21 AM   #246
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but it the promotion of stupidity amongs already slightly retarded young men that is scary..
Is CJ promoting stupidity or are they exposing it?

I'm thinking the latter.


you people need to get over this one. CJ didn't create the video, they are simply showing it. Idiots will find ways to abuse animals with or without videos being shown, but it is sites like CJ (and Ogrish etc) that are exposing this kind of shit for what it is.

Maybe a donation to your local animal shelter would be a better use of your time than bitching about what others have on their websites? Just a thought.
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Gimme a break, those beheading videos were not entertainment?

Then why do surfers even go to CJ? Whether it be shock/horror or comedy, its ALL entertainment. And entertainment = $$$

And since when has CJ cared about someone's motivation to make a video? I think what matters is the traffic they get from posting them.
i dont blame CJ for posting the vid, i'm hating on the people that made it
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Old 07-20-2004, 09:24 AM   #248
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Rick Latona is scum! He has no soul. He's empty, completely devoid of any substance whatsoever. He profits from the pain and misery of others. People like him devalue the planet!

Once day, hopefully soon .... he will rot in HELL!
here is the thing... if you were to look at TV news today people would say the same thing... any news company profits on reporting shitty things... CJ just doesn't edit anything before it goes out.
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This is one of those issues that really draws out all kinds of emotions and reactions.

What kinds of things are you guys getting from your surfers?

I can't imagine it being very positive.
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what about millions of animals a year gassed to death every day by "humane" societies?

where is that video of the puppies being piled on top of their dead buddies in a co2 filled dumpster 'kill box"

get some perspective you whiners!
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