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Old 07-20-2004, 04:27 PM   #301
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:28 PM   #302
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Pull your head out your ass. Shit like what's being talked about is on the same level as snuff videos and CP in terms of offensiveness. You're saying we should legalize that too?
No it isn't, and no, I don't see anyone here saying those should be legalized.


And as far as I know, showing this kind of video IS legal. Nothing needs to be legalized here.
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Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:32 PM   #304
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Rick, come on. I can't believe you have no line at all you guys won't cross at CJ. I know you preach freedom of speech with no restraint and you know I do back that 110%. But making a buck off animal cruelty videos?

That's soooo totally beyond belief not cool to make money off of a video with deliberate absolute horrendous cruelty to a small innocent cat.



For those that don't watch it, a couple of punks stuff a cat inside a small wire cage, pour gasoline all over it, and light her up.

Not trying to bash you guys, but have a heart will you. That kind of stuff is so dangerous to promote not only to animals but to little kids that could go and try that crap and end up lighting themselves on fire accidently.
This couldn't have been said any better by KRL so I'm bumping it.

I do not believe at all in censorship, but I do have a choice as to what I will choose to distribute or not distribute.

I've seen the "beheading" tangent here in multiple areas. I forced myself to watch the first beheading video to remind myself that our enemies the terrorist will do ABSOLUTELY anything to kill us.

This video is different. (I will not watch it) but 2 sick fucks preying on an innocent defensless animal is not war. It's a crime. Like CP or anything else.

If I were to broadcast it, I would be enabling those that were sick enough to find "entertainment/pleasure/or intriuge" from the material. I personally would NEVER enable that type of medium to propogate. I respect people freedom of expression, do not support censorship, and would like to point out that what apparently was taped was a criminal act, and should be prosecuted. Had that been a murder certain agencies would have their hands on the servers containing it already. I hope the ASPCA doesn't get ahold of it.

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Old 07-20-2004, 04:33 PM   #305
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Funny you mention that baddog. I was doing some animal rights research last week online and found a lab site that was discussing the effects of electromagnetic radio frequency wave dosings.

What was very weird there was more data they compiled with human subjects they energy dosed than all the lab animals they tested.

The way it was worded made it sound odd. In one paragraph it said male subject unclothed and then data results for various radio wave energies that were pointed at him. Just didn't sound like something someone would willing sit still for.

they use stuff like that as non-lethal control of violent prisoners
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No it isn't, and no, I don't see anyone here saying those should be legalized.


And as far as I know, showing this kind of video IS legal. Nothing needs to be legalized here.
While this may be true, killing defenseless animals is a CRIMINAL act.
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was kind of funny
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:35 PM   #308
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whine assess, would it have been a problem if this was a human...i see certain people whine about animals but laugh at other shit...if you got a problem wiht the video DON'T watch it....homos
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I don't even like cats all that much! but I was horrified to see what they did to an inocent animal! they deserve the same to happen to them! and worse!
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:39 PM   #310
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Why not? You'd want a test subject to be able to live as normally as they would be if not in the lab. If the subject is under undue stress from the lab that have nothing to do with the experiement then depending on what kind of experiment it is the test results cannot be expected to be accurate.
just exactly what kind of tests do you think they are doing on cats that they care about whether or not the cat is stressed?
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Just out of curiousity, what won't CJ put on their site?

Where is that line of not crossing?

Give some example of what won't be seen on CJ please.
you think there is something?
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:50 PM   #312
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I didn't watch the video but.

My thought is don't go crying when the Censoring cops show up. This will be be more ammo for them.

If it caused this much shit on an adult webmasters board well, I can just see and hear main stream ?

People should TRY 2 use common sense and think about there business down the road and not about the $$$ today.

An animal burning caused more stink than a human getting there head wack off on this board.
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:52 PM   #313
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While this may be true, killing defenseless animals is a CRIMINAL act.
And those responsible for MAKING the video should be caught and prosecuted.


Again....


Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
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Can we even be sure that orgish.com or CJ didn't contract the making of this video? These people are so fucking dispicable it wouldn't surprise me if they had it made just so they could make money from it?

Even if they had no direct hand in making it themselves, did either site pay any money to the makers of this video?

I'd almost be willing to pay a private detective to find out. If the rest of you are truly unraged over this, how about putting up some pocket change to do this very thing? At the VERY least, the two scumballs who made the video will be identified. They are probably future serial killers.

And finally, LENS, PLEASE STOP ADVERTISING CJ'S AFFILIATE PROGRAM ON GFY? No amount of money they are paying you can be anywhere near worth it.
My concern is that by posting it on their site they will encourage other sick bastards to make videos of terrible deeds so they can show their sick friends "Hey my video is up" lets see you accomplish that. And so the sick videos keep being sent to CJ
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And those responsible for MAKING the video should be caught and prosecuted.


Again....


Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.

Did it ever cross your mind that

specifically animal videos,

- where the torturers - realistically - do not have to face ANY consequences,

- and where victims are so easy to "come by"

(both opposed to videos where humans are the victims)

are MADE FOR sites like CJ

for the sole purpose of getting in front of millions with their "work"

and that

more follow-ups will follow, "exclusively" produced FOR CJ and co.

just like it happened to ogrish (they declined)?


You aren't thinking those jugoslawian punks did that just for themselves, "privately" so to say now do you?

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My concern is that by posting it on their site they will encourage other sick bastards to make videos of terrible deeds so they can show their sick friends "Hey my video is up" lets see you accomplish that. And so the sick videos keep being sent to CJ
Oh for sure this will happen, you can bank on it.

But from what I've seen on this board cj will just think of it as more content and be happy 2 get it.
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Old 07-20-2004, 05:18 PM   #317
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fucking sick !!

what's next childporn??


tsss... bad move to get some visitors to your site


btw i hope these kids who did this get burned alive (for example in a car or so)


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Old 07-20-2004, 05:20 PM   #318
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man are all us pornographers hypocritical? we all cross the line, i am of course against animal cruelty, but look at the sites many of us profit off of, i dont see how anyone promoting a deep throat, DP, or fisting etc. sites could ever talk,

many programs have these kinds of sites and yet we still make them money,

money is money, most of us here HAVE crossed "moral" lines to get that money, we have no right to bash on anyone else doing the same.

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Comparing deep throats to burning a kitty alive just for the fuck of it?


If you feel that bad about sex you may consider leaving the biz lol
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Comparing deep throats to burning a kitty alive just for the fuck of it?


If you feel that bad about sex you may consider leaving the biz lol
you are an idiot, i was making comparisons about crossing lines,

fuck some of u have no fuckign brain, get the fuck out u stupid surfer.

FUCK SOME OF U ARE FUCKING COMPLETE IDIOTS FIGURE SHIT OUT BEFORE U POST, FUCK STUPID FUCKNUTS USE YOUR DAM BRAIN!
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i think 'fisting' models earn money with the shots and some of them even like it.


You can't compare buring a cat and a fisting scene at all.


The cat didn't approve to get burned and a model can choose to get fisted/DP'ed or not


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- where the torturers - realistically - do not have to face ANY consequences,
I don't know about where YOU live, but where I live that sort of act of cruelty to an animal would be highly illegal, anyone partaking of making such a film or performing the act even without a video camera running runs the risk of being arrested.

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are MADE FOR sites like CJ

for the sole purpose of getting in front of millions with their "work"

and that

more follow-ups will follow, "exclusively" produced FOR CJ and co.

just like it happened to ogrish (they declined)?


You aren't thinking those jugoslawian punks did that just for themselves, "privately" so to say now do you?
Asked and answered on another thread.

But are you insinuating that the makers of this film may have been paid by certain websites for making it? Because if you are, well, I'm not in the habit of flying accusations like that without proof. I like to keep my discussions sensible in that regard I'm afraid.
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I don't know about where YOU live, but where I live that sort of act of cruelty to an animal would be highly illegal, anyone partaking of making such a film or performing the act even without a video camera running runs the risk of being arrested.


Torturing a cat and torturing a human leads to quite different levels of investigation pressure. The legal consequences if caught are quite different as well. FACT. Even in Canada. Hence I said - realistically.


Asked and answered on another thread.

Answered yes. Made sense, no.

By that logic we should all go kill somebody. Because there will always be killings somewhere, no matter if we did it ourselves or not. It just won't stop. So nothing wrong in doing it ourselves.


But are you insinuating that the makers of this film may have been paid by certain websites for making it? Because if you are, well, I'm not in the habit of flying accusations like that without proof. I like to keep my discussions sensible in that regard I'm afraid.


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So flame on and try to spin it like, hmm let me guess, I said Rick killed somebody?

Woopiduu!

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BTW the link has a Trojan...

Norton just went crazy
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Did it ever cross your mind that

specifically animal videos,

- where the torturers - realistically - do not have to face ANY consequences,

- and where victims are so easy to "come by"

(both opposed to videos where humans are the victims)

are MADE FOR sites like CJ

for the sole purpose of getting in front of millions with their "work"

and that

more follow-ups will follow, "exclusively" produced FOR CJ and co.

just like it happened to ogrish (they declined)?


You aren't thinking those jugoslawian punks did that just for themselves, "privately" so to say now do you?
good points...i totally agree

once these fucks know threre work is posted and viewed they get a kick out of it....
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Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
And each time we post, dozens more kittens have been tortured and killed around the world. Just not caught on film.

And it continues. BFD carry on
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That shit is totally wrong.

Like the thread starter said, promote this on CJ then the next wave of dumb fucks decide its cool to be cruel to animals because they can get some publicity.
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I'd like to have 30 minutes alone with the sick fucks who did that
I would like to return the favor. Do exactly to them what they did to that cat.
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KRL I have seen you post pics of cruelty in the past on this board, very disgusting war pics from Afghanistan if I remember correctly..

Are you always searching for this kind of cruelty?

Basically posting this link here kinda makes people "curious" and feel "forced" to click that link. If it was never posted here, most people wouldn't have seen the movie...
I donate money and my time to animal rights organizations and receive a lot of newsletters and action e-mails, etc. Unfortunately to be aggressive in shuting down the bad guys out there you have see what it is they are doing so you can figure out the best way to deal with it.
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Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
Oh come on CD, I respect your posts a lot, but lets get real that video is not on CJ to make the world aware of animal cruelty, especially with a tag line "The Hottest Pussy You've Ever Seen."

Cut the BS and get fucking real. Its there to create traffic. Let's at least call it what it really is and not try to say CJ is CNN now reporting to the world about animal brutality.



Some of the posts in this thread make me want to puke.

Honestly there are a lot of pathetic people on GFY.
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This is one of the things I HATE about this biz ... that you have to come across such ugly excuses for human beings. The people who tortured the cat should rot in HELL right next to Rick. The world is worse with him in it.
That video makes me SO angry! So FUCKING angry! And not only at the people that did it. More so at the sick fuck that posted it.

I'd like to see the person at CJ that decided to post this in a cage undergoing the same fucking torture and then have CJ post the fucking video clip under the title: "Look What Happens To Our Staff When We Post Sick Shit!"

Seriously: fuck you guys!

And fuck ANY of you webmasters that advertise there and support such SICK FUCKING SHIT!!

I'll be taking notes of who advertises there.
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good points...i totally agree

once these fucks know threre work is posted and viewed they get a kick out of it....
Especially since it had such a cute tag line. Probably the first approval these sick fucks have ever gotten in their life, I think most definitely they would be encouraged to do it again, but with something bigger. A child maybe.
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With all of the shit that is going on in not only the industry, but politics in general, this is the fight you pick? I have lost some respect for you KRL.
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That video makes me SO angry! So FUCKING angry! And not only at the people that did it. More so at the sick fuck that posted it.

I'd like to see the person at CJ that decided to post this in a cage undergoing the same fucking torture and then have CJ post the fucking video clip under the title: "Look What Happens To Our Staff When We Post Sick Shit!"

Seriously: fuck you guys!

And fuck ANY of you webmasters that advertise there and support such SICK FUCKING SHIT!!

I'll be taking notes of who advertises there.
Good post Donovan.

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Old 07-20-2004, 06:34 PM   #337
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What all you fail to realize is that every mass muderer, or serial killer if you will, started off with the killing of animals in their youth.

Don't believe me? do the research yourself- I was just watching Lionel Dahmer on the Larry King Show and he explained the acts of his son Jeffery's childhood- not only did Jeffery Dahmer kill animals he disected them and played with them...

This video is disgusting, and useless-

even though I went to the boards and blasted Rick for his posting of the beheading video's I have learned a lot about video's of that variety.

In the case of Nick Berg- you can make an argument that it was "newsworthy"

In the case of killing a small kitten....it's a CRIME, it's NOT newsworthy and furthermore it's a dispicable act for any human to condone.

And this comes from a person who hates cats....
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With all of the shit that is going on in not only the industry, but politics in general, this is the fight you pick? I have lost some respect for you KRL.
Pick a fight? I didn't post to pick a fight. I posted to discuss something related to a cause that I devote a great deal of my time and energy too.

We all know why that video is there and I guess that's what really disturbs me more than anything. It really illustrates the reality of people.

Like I said earlier, fuck yeh I hate censorship more than anything.
CJ has every right to post whatever the hell they want.

But there are limits in this world that should at a minimum be considered, and in my mind anyone who brutalizes kids or animals or makes money exploiting kids or animals just sends me into orbit.
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:36 PM   #339
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What all you fail to realize is that every mass muderer, or serial killer if you will, started off with the killing of animals in their youth.

Don't believe me? do the research yourself- I was just watching Lionel Dahmer on the Larry King Show and he explained the acts of his son Jeffery's childhood- not only did Jeffery Dahmer kill animals he disected them and played with them...

This video is disgusting, and useless-

even though I went to the boards and blasted Rick for his posting of the beheading video's I have learned a lot about video's of that variety.

In the case of Nick Berg- you can make an argument that it was "newsworthy"

In the case of killing a small kitten....it's a CRIME, it's NOT newsworthy and furthermore it's a dispicable act for any human to condone.

And this comes from a person who hates cats....
Very true kB!
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:41 PM   #340
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FUCK!
I didnt want to see that


YOU FUCKING MORONS!
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Old 07-20-2004, 06:48 PM   #341
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I didnt want to see that


YOU FUCKING MORONS!
The worst part of all, that video is just one of millions where animals have been tortured and abused by mankind.

I've seen way worse than that, as horrific as it is, from the animal rights organizations I deal with.

The sickest offenders are the military labs and labs under the umbrella of the NIH. Experiments so gruesome they make Auschwitz look like a vacation resort.
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RIck, you're nothing but a little slut with high heels on the street corner.
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Old 07-20-2004, 07:09 PM   #343
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With all of the shit that is going on in not only the industry, but politics in general, this is the fight you pick? I have lost some respect for you KRL.
what a horse shit response. yes, let's bith about beheadings and prison abuse. great. how about you guys start with yourself...
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Old 07-20-2004, 08:13 PM   #344
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So I watch it. Extremely disgusting and cruel and the jerks should be behind bars if they did set the cat on fire.

Didn?t read all posts but that flick could have been staged just to be posted.

With a video camera and software, my cat would still be alive.
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Old 07-20-2004, 11:26 PM   #346
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"hottest pussy" supposedly banned by net nanny and other parental control software
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Old 07-20-2004, 11:40 PM   #347
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And those responsible for MAKING the video should be caught and prosecuted.


Again....


Be mad at the assholes who made that video.

Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
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wtf is that shit.

"Be mad at the asshole who killed my mom, but applaud those who helped them"
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"hottest pussy" supposedly banned by net nanny and other parental control software
??? CJ as a whole has been banned for years.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:07 AM   #349
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Applaud those who have the guts to show it to the world.

People need to be aware of the kind of cruel shit that takes place in the world. Ignoring such cruelty isn't going to solve anything. Censoring it only prevents that awareness.
You're totally missing the point. As many people mentioned it has to do with the context you put something in.

I think ignoring it might actually help, at least showing it to half a million young, influencable kids and teenagers won't. The sick fucks that sent in that video will want to be on CJ again and do something even sicker (and you thought you've seen the hottest pussy).

I can't believe someone like Rick with millions of dollars in the bank would want to make money with shit like this. If I was a fucking millionaire and thought shit like that was sick I definitely wouldn't try to make more bank on it.
Sad, really.

He's said before that he doesn't visit the site himself, so he probably doesn't have very strong emotional ties to the site.. so why don't you put your fucking money to use and at least try to make the world a better place.

And guys, you can't really compare it to the beheading videos.. they were something the world kinda had to see, it's called consequences.
the mainstream media even showed parts of the videos.

So until the Nation of the Cats invade the US, take all our oil and kill thousands of civilians it's a very stupid comment to make.

This is something completely different.
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:03 PM   #350
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