boneprone

I have crabs.

Webmaster J

Nick,

You are such a joke. I can't believe you would make such a lame post!

The truth is that level(3) told you to get the fuck out of thier facility because you are months behind on your banwidth bill!

You moved the few servers that you had over to coloc at Verio (Your only provider).

Your company is a JOKE. I know guys that just make galleries part time that have more servers than you do!

Everyone is always in here complaing about how shitty Likewho is and that your stuff is always down.

To all newbies: Do not be fooled into hosting with such a "fake" company. They will no doubt be out of this business just as fast as they came into it (LIKE 6 months ago!).

I would never host my paysites with such idiots.

That's my 2 cents.

Peace,

Webmaster J

Tukhman

Oh really?
So level3 told me to fuck off...

Okay, joker ass...

As of tonight, until tomorrow morning, Level3 will be LIkeWhoa's PRIMARY provider of bandwidth. Please, do trace routes!

And you fucker, go and keep spreading rumors...

LOL

Webmaster J

Nope, your stuff is still at Verio... I've never seen a "hosting company" that has to phisically move thier servers from one building to another so much. Nick, do you have a big backseat in your car or does your mother help you move your servers from one place to another?? LOLOLOLOLOL

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31 559 ms 557 ms 561 ms p4-7-2-0.r00.nycmny06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.3
.181]
32 557 ms 559 ms 562 ms p4-1-1-0.r00.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4
.49]
33 651 ms 559 ms 650 ms ge-0-0-0.a08.nycmny01.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.2
6.13]
34 659 ms 651 ms 655 ms p4-1-1-0.a06.nycmny03.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.1
26.114]
35 653 ms 652 ms 657 ms ge-1-1.a02.nycmny03.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.126
.211]
36 563 ms 563 ms 563 ms ge-3-2.a02.nycmny03.us.ce.verio.net [204.141.16.
38]
37 1020 ms 1231 ms 1162 ms likewhoa.com [64.152.7.6]

(PS, nice tracert, if you were any slower you'd be going in reverse)

Webmaster J

$tandaman

Hey Fuckmaster J, maybe as soon as you get off your anon ass someone will listen to you.

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Tukhman

Hey dummy,
It doesn't take 30 seconds to do that...
I would love to see you back up your statements in just few.

You are nothing but a JOKE.

Move my servers? I'll need to rent a freaking UPS truck and use it back and forth 4 times.

$tandaman

Nick, you have been too busy, you havent checked NOC for a while, a UPS truck will not be enough.

jimmyf

I vote for the Drive In Movie. I'll move to your area if you open one.

Wonder why I've never seen my ISP Verio post to any boards when they go down?
Maybe they don't give a shit.


Jim

Webmaster J

I bet Likewhooooa be running on Cogent fiber tomorrow, and then Nick's DSL line the day after that.

-Webmaster J

$tandaman

hey J i'll take that bet, wonna bet your life on it?

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$tandaman

put your money if you have any, where you mouth is...and put up you real name dolboeb.

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rollin

Tuks, !!
Can't you get laid or something?
SHEESH!
You stick to this thread like flies on shit!

Tukhman

Stan,
I did not know you are still awake. Bet his life on it? What life...
Poor cocksucker is going to disapper in few minutes after traceroutes are announced.

Damn, will I feel stupid.

We are going to play a providers game.

Level3 for the next few hours
Then ATT
Then Verio
and maybe, JUST maybe you'll get Time Warner

But by then, you'll disappear and it's not going to matter.

Oh and since Level3 told us to fuck off, maybe they should take the mutually owned Ip's we have with them? ;-))))))))

rollin

You know,
You guys should all relax...All webhosts have problems every now and then, ALL OF THEM
I am sure tukhman and stan will repay their customers by one month free hosting or something, they will let level 3 take the tab
BTW, Ping to likewhoa network is pretty good...i wouldn't complain...

Tukhman

rollin,
I'm going to start a thread and call you a cocksucker, liar, etc

I want to see you just leave it alone.

Notice, it's not ME, adding on to it. It's anons who appear and talk out of their ass.

Webmaster J

You guys claim to be "CEO's". I've seen better use of the English language by a Parot.

What the hell country are you guys from anyway? Maybe you should pack up your server and go back there.

-Webmaster J

rollin

tuks,
chill with your comments man
i know how the hosting ball rolls, i know it is a battle...i just think its foolish that you stay here and piss with people, when you could be on the phone with level 3 ceo bitchen at his ass

Tukhman

rollin,
LOL, I agree. If this thread mattered to the success of our business, I wouldn't continue long before that.

But seeing the general population of people who come and complain, when I know that 99% of the people who added to this thread have never used our services, it's just too funny to leave alone.

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rollin

anyways
i have to go out now
many whores await me!

Webmaster J

Rollin,

That's the point I'm trying to make. These guys are not a hosting company, they are just two fuckfaces with a server. C'mon I mean "Likewhoa", what the hell kind of a name is that? These are just two idots that coloc'd at level(3) and are pretending to be big shots. Crap in my opinion.

-Webmaster J

$tandaman

Webmaster who? Do you exist? Who's your daddy?



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Webmaster J

Standaman,

Did you ever consider taking that "$" out of your name and paying your hosting bill to level3, or are you gonna wait until they sue your ass?

-Webmaster J

Tukhman

LOL
traceroute to likewhoa.com (64.152.7.6), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ge-4-3-0.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.244.165.2) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 so-3-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.57) 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms
3 so-1-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (212.187.128.153) 74 ms 74 ms 74 ms
4 gigabitethernet7-1.ipcolo2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.17.100) 74 ms 74 ms 74 ms
5 pos11-0.ipcolo4.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.12.74) 75 ms 74 ms 74 ms
6 64.152.2.134 (64.152.2.134) 75 ms 75 ms 75 ms
7 64.152.7.6 (64.152.7.6) 74 ms 74 ms 74 ms

That's just one...
Since Level3 dropped us, as you claim, maybe it's time for them to stop serving our bandwidth?

Once again, you are proven to be nothing.

For those interested, visit http://www.level3.com/LookingGlass

and TraceRoute directly from Level(3)

BTW< verio and ATT are still working

hahhahaha

Rivux

Some advice Tukhman from a 3rd party here, you are starting to look like an ass. Your company is starting to look like a joke as well.

Calling people names and using the language you are using towards people doesnt look well when it is coming from someone who runs a respectable company. But that just may be the problem.

SandNigger

I have been reading the posts by LikeWhoa, Inc. for quite sometime and up until this point I have remained quiet, as liars always dig themselves deeper and deeper.

I would like some clarification, from LikeWhoa, Inc., in regards to the following questions:

1. Tukhman, are you a US citizen?
2. Tukhman, are you 18 years old?
3. Are you stating that your equipment was NOT moved from the Level3 facilty to the Verio facility.
4. You stated in the past, and just recently, that you have bandwidth from AT&T.
How come, tracing from AT&T's own route server, I take only Verio to your network?
5. Are you stating that you are NOT deliquent on your invoices with Level3?
6. Are you stating that you were not told to, 'Vacate our Facilty', by your Level3 sales rep?
7. In your initial post you stated:
'Klein, Zelman, Rothermel, & Dichter, LLP., the attorney firm that represents Like Whoa, is currently in discussions with the Level (3) legal department'
Is this because you are considering suing Level3 or is it more like Level3 is filing suit against you?

Level3 Inc. is aware of your postings and will be replying directly to you on Monday morning.

$tandaman

hahah more anon..i wonder why..
As Queen once said...another one bites the dust..

HAHAHAHAHAH
yo Nigga...pay your bills

Tukhman

Sand******,
You are funnier then Webmaster J...
It's Level(3) Communications, LLC
Not Level 3 Inc

hahahahahahaha

As for your other questions, you are one of the rumor mills I was talking about. How come all the rumors come from people who just registered?

Our facilities are where they were before and are NOT going to move.

LOL

$tandaman

Hey, few more anons come out, and we win the longest thread prize ))))))

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Tukhman

Now, you want AT&T

Okay... It's coming!

Your wish is my command.

hahahahahahahah

BTW, November 3rd I'm supposed to turn legal... I don't know if 18 is legal or not

LOL

CDSmith

Exactly my thoughts while working my way through this very interesting read here. People, let this thread stand as an example of what NOT to do when running a business.

What should have happened is, the initial announcement should have been made WITHOUT the last part about defamation, and that's all. The original poster shouldn't have returned at all, and had the professionalism and good grace to let the webmasters work out the "shit" for themselves. As in, "let your satisfyed customers do your talking for you"

I run my sites, webmaster services and content business professionally. I have nothing but satisfied customers, and if anyone is ever DISatisfied I go and make the effort to make them satisfied. Period. There is simply no need to hold a public pissing match over what should have been a simple update, so I'm sorry but my future web projects won't be considering like whoa for hosting. I'll go with Cavecreek or vector or my Canadian fav "execulink.com", you don't see any pissing threads here by any of them do you?

The best advice I can give anyone who runs a big business is: "Let your satisfied customers fight your battles for you"
why? Because nothing kills ugly rumors faster than a satisfied customer.

Now, professionals would comment wisely on what I've said, and likely learn from it too. Let's see what the like whoa guys do. Class or crass, it's your call.
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Tukhman

CDSmith,
Not only do I agree with both of you, I'm doing as much as I can to prevent it. But it gets difficult when people are spreading rumors left and right and launch attacks on us for no reason.

Webmaster J

Are you saying you are in good standing with level(3)... You are going to be eating those words when we get an official response from them about you jokers. I don't think they would waste their time commenting on such a small customers as yourself, but I recently contacted them gave an example of how you defamed their company public ally. Can you please answer sandniggas questions and then some of my own? All I can say is whoa dude!

Can you answer a couple questions?

- Has your company ever made a profit?
- Why does your counter suck so bad and no one uses it?
- Have you ever paid anyone on that (0.04) cents per click that you claim your counter pays (If so who?)
- Have you ever paid anyone on hosting referrals? (If so please tell us who).
- Can you show tracerts from more than one provider on any given month?
- Why are your hosting prices so high when the service that you give is really bad? Is anyone happy that hosts or has hosted there?
-Are you not an 18 year old boy from Pakistan who thinks he's hot shit?

-Webmaster J

Tukhman

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| 0 | | 212.254.207.15 | noc.bboxbbs.ch | - | | | | Buemplizer Box |
| 1 | | 212.254.207.1 | router-bb-bern1.bboxbbs.ch | Bern, Switzerland | +01:00 | 1 | x | Buemplizer Box |
| 2 | | 212.40.9.129 | bern1.datacomm.ch | Bern, Switzerland | +01:00 | 0 | x | DataComm (Schweiz) AG |
| 3 | | 212.254.255.2 | glattbrugg-core-01-ser-8-0-0.datacomm.ch | - | | 1 | x | Unbenutzt (Netzluecke) |
| 4 | | 146.188.32.101 | serial11-1-1.gw5.zur4.alter.net | Zurich, Switzerland | +01:00 | 1 | x | UUNET PIPEX |
| 5 | | 146.188.6.49 | 325.at-1-0-0.xr1.alter.net | - | | 1 | x | UUNET PIPEX |
| 6 | | 146.188.3.29 | so-0-0-0.tr1.zur3.alter.net | Zurich, Switzerland | +01:00 | 2 | x | UUNET PIPEX |
| 7 | | 146.188.3.201 | so-4-0-0.ir1.nyc12.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 90 | x | UUNET PIPEX |
| 8 | | 152.63.23.61 | so-1-0-0.ir1.nyc9.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 90 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 9 | | 152.63.9.182 | 0.so-0-0-0.tr2.nyc9.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 96 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 10 | | 152.63.15.181 | 0.so-4-0-0.xr2.nyc9.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 90 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 11 | | 152.63.23.141 | 0.so-2-1-0.xl2.nyc9.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 90 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 12 | | 152.63.18.221 | pos7-0.br1.nyc9.alter.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 90 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 13 | | 204.255.169.94 | - | ?Fairfax, VA 22031 | | 90 | x | UUNET Technologies, Inc. |
| 14 | | 12.122.11.13 | tbr1-p012401.n54ny.ip.att.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 144 | x--- | AT&T ITS |
| 15 | | 12.122.11.14 | gbr6-p100.n54ny.ip.att.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 140 | x | AT&T ITS |
| 16 | | 12.123.1.189 | gar3-p370.n54ny.ip.att.net | New York, NY, USA | -05:00 | 140 | x | AT&T ITS |
| 17 | | 64.152.2.134 | gw1-gigabit.likewhoa.com | ?Broomfield, CO 80021 | | 90 | x | Level 3 Communications, Inc. |
| 18 | | 64.152.7.6 | likewhoa.com | ?Brooklyn, NY 11230 | | 91 | x | Like Whoa Inc |
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Tukhman

Webmaster J,

LOL... You are running out of ways to scrutinize. I'm not from Pakistan, I'm from Taliban!
hahahahhaha

Tukhman

Webmaster J a.k.a Wayne

You are still in a collection process for the 60k you owed us since about 4 months ago...
I know that you like to changing hosting providers every now and then, since keeping that huge free host is just difficult.

But dont worry, bills you still have to pay.

That didnt' take long to figure out.

Don't make me expose you to folks who don't know you... I know you well!

hahah

$tandaman

J..i mean W, like i said b4, pay your bills

Hahhahahahah Our Prices are the best you can find, thats why our moto is that we beat ANY competitive quote, didn't you hear?
Show me any other network that will give you BGP through Gigabit Pipes!!!!

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Any new client who reads this thread and hits me up on icq tommorow only, gets free Bandwidth for a month with N0 limit. And yes J, i'll take your 250mbps back, i can afford it

Time to make this thread usefull!

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CDSmith

Maybe the poster that suggested a PR rep has a good idea there? The damage here is done, but the wise decision is for you to let the thread die and move forward. You'll never shut anyone up by sparring with them yourself sir. Let it go, and think about hiring a competant rep (Like Tam is to Vector Force) to handle these announcements. You're the boss, and I'm quite sure you have bigger and better things to do with your time than punk-spar on a webmaster forum. Right?

For a nominal fee you could forward all your announcements to someone like me, for example. That person will proofread them, edit them, and announce them for you, and handle any ongoing concerns. Your troubles would be over, period. The thing is, now you've gone and opened the door so that all sorts of allegations are now coming out in the open, and no one wants to get mixed up with a company that may or may not be involved in a bunch of messy lawsuits and legal arguements.

Result: even if you did contact someone like me now, they'd likely pass and say "maybe later when things die down I would consider it."

Think about it.
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Tukhman

CDSmith,
I like your idea. Yeah, both of us have better things to do. So if you are still interested in that job you just posted, you are hired.

My e-mail is [email protected]

;-)))

As far as damage, this board is least of my concern. Seeing the people who post here and the way they comment is something that cannot be taken seriously.

Webmaster J

You heard the man... does anybody want LikeWhoa banwidth even for free? Let's see how many people actually get a free month from you scrubs... My guess is no one will.

-Webmaster J

TheFLY

CD, have you no shame?

I think you are drunk.

Haha...

Tukhman

Your guess is once again incorrect.

We will not further comment on any posts in this thread, for those of you interested in our services you can reach our site at http://hosting.likewhoa.com.

Our corporate office is available to answer your questions at 718.421.7835 or 866.WHOA.NOW.

As fun as it sounds, myself and Stan have better things to take care of. We have addressed all the issues on this board as requested. Our network was and is always supplied by multiple providers.

We will be making an announcement for our clients and future clients (if there are any from this board left ;-))) to join us during Internext Expo in Las Vegas at WB Stage 16 on January 8, for open bar, drinks, and entertainment.

If there are issues that need to be addressed directly to me, please e-mail me at [email protected].

Thank You.

TheFLY

By their fruits you shall know them.

TheFLY

JesusHost.com will be hosting a live crusifixion in the basement of Treasure Island. All former LikeWhoa customers will be elligible for a free exorcism by pastor Jimmy3Way.

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CDSmith

As I said, I'd really have to see how all this plays out first. If "like whoa" comes out on top and free of some of these rather serious implications, then yes I would consider putting my name behind you for sure. Since taking my business online totally in '99, I've never knowingly referred any of my fellow webmasters to any companies that weren't 100% CD (or Boneprone) approved, and I'm not about to start now. I would need to know a hell of a lot more about the company than I do now before I'll put my name behind it. Sorry, that's just the way I am. I give 100% in anything I do or not at all.

Let's wait and see what happens over the next few weeks or so.
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[This message has been edited by quiet (edited 10-20-2001).]

Crutch

That's got to be the only intelligent thing you said in this whole thread.

awechen

hey likewhoa !

why u dont provide a letter from Level3 !
if u are a big L3 client tell them to send a fax.. where the explain the problem.

sorry but i cant belive that 8 hours off
only a cable problem !!
also u say u are multihoming !
but also u say the problem was L3 !
so why can L3 do this, for me is MH 100 % MH
means is Uplink 1 -> donw i have a backup ( at least one )
but in this case was is a problem from one uplink.
..... ok .. i know u are a new comapany ... u learn from this.

to the other webmasters and someone ..
think about what u write dwon. and dont talk about technical stuff, if u dont know what u talk. i include here also some postings from LWI ... without any technical real base.

Level3 is one of the top uplinks .
i dont think so this was a payment problem.
then it is a $$$ problem the cut u OFF !
realy OFF ... means ( GAME OVER )


ok .. to the other guy's the talking aboout
"my webside was down i lost mils of $$"wask u self why !
if u have a HUGE webside and u hosis t it only and one ISP .... fuck up.

if u want a 100 % uptime your HUGE webside on the WorldWildWaiting then get a backup.
like mainserver in NYC backup in LA or so ..
or better get a own line ...

8 hours down is bad i know.
but think about LWI, LWI is a new ISP,
the Microsoft network was few months a go
80 % down for 6 day;s .. was a nameserver problem.
yahoo, altavisa was also down a while a go for few hour's....

if u need 100 % uptime get more servers ...

and btw:
I GET WHAT U PAY FOR
( pay a ISP like akamai about 5 times u pay for LWI ) then u have 100 % uptime ...

--
andreas

12clicks

wow, I missed something last night.

Anon posters have no place or value on this board. If you've got something to say, especially when its slanderous, let us all know who you are.
Just because I don't like tukman's style does not mean I advocate anon posters lying about him.
If you've got something to say, say it with your name or go away.

Forest

Ronny, 12Dicky, you are the biggest joke of adult internet.
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Amputate Your Head

Jesus.... looks like I missed the party! I read through almost all of this thread, except the last few posts... WOW. All I can say is, Tuk... you win the asshole award for October. Wanna shoot for the big yearly dildo trophy? What an ass.... what kind of company rep comes to a public board and talks shit to the very demographic their company sells it's services too??! Fuck me....! I guess I never learned that strategy in business. Is that your "Power-Sell" or something....? Some kinda new marketing scheme? Piss off everyone so they will come and spend money at your company?

Tuk, you're a fuckin' moron. Sadly, (for you), I wouldn't do business with LikeWhoa at this point if you were whoring it out for .35 cents a gig. You're a fuckin' dumbass. Try conducting yourself like an adult when it comes to the business end.... you might make some money.

Asshole.