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martyVP · 01-18-2005, 10:27 PM

Come out Come out wherever you are and lets talk turkey.

triumph · 01-18-2005, 10:36 PM

hey fatboy your on a roll today.

DX · 01-18-2005, 10:37 PM

never heard of either of them..

triumph · 01-18-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DX

never heard of either of them..

dude acmoviepass has been around for a long time, big site.

martyVP · 01-18-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by triumph

hey fatboy your on a roll today.

Who died and made you skinny?

triumph · 01-18-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Who died and made you skinny?

haha, nice comeback!

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-18-2005, 10:44 PM

Let me grab some popcorn. This can be good.
You never heard of ACmoviepass?

Did you just start in this biz?

triumph · 01-18-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Let me grab some popcorn. This can be good.
You never heard of ACmoviepass?

Did you just start in this biz?

looks like he registeres in 2001? and he sounds like a noob.

DX · 01-18-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Let me grab some popcorn. This can be good.
You never heard of ACmoviepass?

Did you just start in this biz?

Yeah, that must be it.

martyVP · 01-18-2005, 10:49 PM

Well we don't really advertise ACmoviepass much...people who now the secret promote us 8.2 month retention, no bullshit.

arg · 01-18-2005, 10:54 PM

For what it's worth, I don't see any confusion between the two; different logos, acpartner is a webmaster program while acmoviepass is a surfer site, just the same first two letters. ACPartner's surfer sites don't begin with AC. ACPartner is using it to stand for "adult cash." There's also a different sponsor called adultcash, another one called adultcashier, there's adultmegacash, adultactioncash, adultpartnercash, and so on. ACPartner could use adultcashpartner, but then they'd be confused with adultpartnercash. Maybe I'm overlooking some other details, but I don't see the grounds for a trademark infringement claim. Or are you talking some other form of infringement, like they're using your content or something?

martyVP · 01-18-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arg

For what it's worth, I don't see any confusion between the two; different logos, acpartner is a webmaster program while acmoviepass is a surfer site, just the same first two letters. ACPartner's surfer sites don't begin with AC. ACPartner is using it to stand for "adult cash." There's also a different sponsor called adultcash, another one called adultcashier, there's adultmegacash, adultactioncash, adultpartnercash, and so on. ACPartner could use adultcashpartner, but then they'd be confused with adultpartnercash. Maybe I'm overlooking some other details, but I don't see the grounds for a trademark infringement claim. Or are you talking some other form of infringement, like they're using your content or something?

Yes you are overlooking that fact that "AC" is a registered trademark and its got products such as ACGOLD.COM, ACMOVIEPASS.COM, ACPAY.COM, ACPRIME.COM and ACSEXTOYS.COM ETC.

arg · 01-18-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Yes you are overlooking that fact that "AC" is a registered trademark and its got products such as ACGOLD.COM, ACMOVIEPASS.COM, ACPAY.COM, ACPRIME.COM and ACSEXTOYS.COM ETC.

Ah, adultcheck I've heard of...wasn't familiar with acmoviepass.com. I still think it's a weak infringement claim. There are a couple dozen other companies with trademarks on AC as well. ACPartner is promoting to webmasters, not consumers, and I don't see any evidence of bad faith or attempts to confuse people with the similarity...it looks like a simple coincidence, with little chance of consumer confusion in the marketplace. They say "adultcashpartner.com" on their web site, so they're not trying to make people associate them with adultcheck. ACPartner's been operating for two years, and you haven't had any reports of confusion yet have you?

Steen2 · 01-18-2005, 11:19 PM

Send them a C&D, pay a lawyer $400/hr plus if you are so concerned. Don't come bitching on GFY.

martyVP · 01-18-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

Send them a C&D, pay a lawyer $400/hr plus if you are so concerned. Don't come bitching on GFY.

Thats the reason i am calling them out so the appropriate authorities can do exactly what you are sayin...no one is whining you clown, simply looking for who to go after.

baddog · 01-18-2005, 11:44 PM

Sorry Marty, I disagree. He is infringing as much as you are.

Pretty sure they have a trademark on AC.

Steen2 · 01-18-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry Marty, I disagree. He is infringing as much as you are.

Pretty sure they have a trademark on AC.

ACdelco.com is selling auto parts! Do you even know what a trademark is?!

martyVP · 01-19-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

ACdelco.com is selling auto parts! Do you even know what a trademark is?!

Trademarks are generally distinctive symbols, pictures, or words that sellers affix to distinguish and identify the origin of their products. Trademark status may also be granted to distinctive and unique packaging, color combinations, building designs, product styles, and overall presentations. It is also possible to receive trademark status for identification that is not on its face distinct or unique but which has developed a secondary meaning over time that identifies it with the product or seller. The owner of a trademark has exclusive right to use it on the product it was intended to identify and often on related products. Service-marks receive the same legal protection as trademarks but are meant to distinguish services rather than products.

martyVP · 01-19-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry Marty, I disagree. He is infringing as much as you are.

Pretty sure they have a trademark on AC.

We will let the lawyers decide if we pursue legal action.

pornstar2pac · 01-19-2005, 07:38 AM

I guess I better take AC Poker off the drawing board.

DEA - banned for life · 01-19-2005, 07:55 AM

ahhh let em be..there not hurting anyone

tranza · 01-19-2005, 08:00 AM

Lol, this is a funny thread.

attention_whore · 01-19-2005, 08:01 AM

Yeah, better change the name or they will use the money they stole from webmasters to fund their lawsuit against you!

mindoza · 01-19-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by attention_whore

Yeah, better change the name or they will use the money they stole from webmasters to fund their lawsuit against you!

Who stole money from webmasters?

JFK · 01-19-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mindoza

Who stole money from webmasters?

uh oh .............here we go again

gleem · 01-19-2005, 09:19 AM

hey Marty, Karma's a bitch aint it? I can't believe anyone running one of those shitty non converting AC related sites would have the ballz to post bitching about anything in public. Ye AC moviepass retains longer than the industry average when you are getting sales upgrading old AC Gold surfers if there are any left by now, but prepare for 1:9000 conversions on typical traffic that converts at 1:500 or better for any other decent video site from a REPUTABLE sponsor, and not one that screws over 10K+ webmasters.

LeeNoga · 01-19-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

uh oh .............here we go again

The trademark office is weird, when you think they should get ya, they have no case, and when you think they have no case, they do, it all depends on the judge...

This reminds me of the Steven Cohen days when in 1997 Cohen served hundreds of folks who had the word, "sex" in their domain, may folks paid him off for a licensing which was cheaper than litigation. As it turned out it was not an infringement...

With this case precedence, I doubt AC has a case against this webmaster.

bigdog · 01-19-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gleem

hey Marty, Karma's a bitch aint it? I can't believe anyone running one of those shitty non converting AC related sites would have the ballz to post bitching about anything in public. Ye AC moviepass retains longer than the industry average when you are getting sales upgrading old AC Gold surfers if there are any left by now, but prepare for 1:9000 conversions on typical traffic that converts at 1:500 or better for any other decent video site from a REPUTABLE sponsor, and not one that screws over 10K+ webmasters.

well said from the avs guru

cold_ice · 01-19-2005, 09:28 AM

Some no one can use the letters AC?

gleem · 01-19-2005, 10:10 AM

thanks baddog.

MJH · 01-19-2005, 10:51 AM

never dealt with Marty only ever dealt with Laith and his two faced, back stabbing side kick Tim. Adultcheck have been screwing webmasters over and keeping the money for years. They still owe me many many thousands of dollars. What goes round comes round eventually though ehh... It must be hell to be constantly worried that your past may come back to get ya at any time .....

MJH

uno · 01-19-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Yes you are overlooking that fact that "AC" is a registered trademark and its got products such as ACGOLD.COM, ACMOVIEPASS.COM, ACPAY.COM, ACPRIME.COM and ACSEXTOYS.COM ETC.

If I'm not mistaken Dave knows all this very well.

uno · 01-19-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

uh oh .............here we go again

Quickdraw · 01-19-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

hey Marty, Karma's a bitch aint it? I can't believe anyone running one of those shitty non converting AC related sites would have the ballz to post bitching about anything in public. Ye AC moviepass retains longer than the industry average when you are getting sales upgrading old AC Gold surfers if there are any left by now, but prepare for 1:9000 conversions on typical traffic that converts at 1:500 or better for any other decent video site from a REPUTABLE sponsor, and not one that screws over 10K+ webmasters.

This was worth a repeat

Semi-Retired-Dave · 01-19-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

If I'm not mistaken Dave knows all this very well.

Are you referring to me as in Dave?

jacked · 01-19-2005, 03:31 PM

i guess your next action will be against www.acmoore.com

good luck buddy lmao ;p

magicmike · 01-19-2005, 03:38 PM

I don't have much to say in this thread but it reminded me of that line in the dr. dre cd

"you look like AC Green, bitch dont call here anymore"

BradShaw · 01-19-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MJH

never dealt with Marty only ever dealt with Laith and his two faced, back stabbing side kick Tim. Adultcheck have been screwing webmasters over and keeping the money for years. They still owe me many many thousands of dollars. What goes round comes round eventually though ehh... It must be hell to be constantly worried that your past may come back to get ya at any time .....

MJH

This is coming from a guy who took me for $100k+.....

baddog · 01-19-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

thanks baddog.

No thanks necessary, I did not know who owned it, just saw the obvious legalities in trying to claim AC as anyone's.

Come to think of it wouldn't Thomas Edison have something to say about it since he got the patent on alternating current (AC).

baddog · 01-19-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

If I'm not mistaken Dave knows all this very well.

I think that issue was more along the lines of Adult Check and Age Check both being AVS's, so it would be a little easier to confuse the two.

Pipecrew · 01-19-2005, 04:16 PM

Is marty and acmoviepass the same as Acpay.com ? No wonder all webmasters hate you and your program.. Guess it is time for another begging "PLEASE PROMOTE MY SITE" thread that we all have come to love.

MJH · 01-19-2005, 05:09 PM

Hey Brad

You know the real deal....

MJH

JFK · 01-19-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Is marty and acmoviepass the same as Acpay.com ? No wonder all webmasters hate you and your program.. Guess it is time for another begging "PLEASE PROMOTE MY SITE" thread that we all have come to love.

AC Pay is History and has been for a while........this whole thread seems to be opening up old wounds... Like MJH and Brad........and a host of others

Pipecrew · 01-19-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

AC Pay is History and has been for a while........this whole thread seems to be opening up old wounds... Like MJH and Brad........and a host of others

I dont really care, what kind of company and its owners, lies to its webmasters to keep processing when they know they lost Visa processing, then avoids the webmasters for weeks, pretending nothing is wrong.

jt420 · 01-19-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

Send them a C&D, pay a lawyer $400/hr plus if you are so concerned. Don't come bitching on GFY.

werd! dont expect to get any business done on this board lol. handle the drama without dragging others into it.

gleem · 01-19-2005, 07:33 PM

wow, finally a thread with some drama I care about, got the MJH/Shaw deal AC whining about someone using "AC" in their company name.. now if I could just get that Australian son of a bitch that owes me $200k to chime in, I'll butter the popcorn!

Jace · 01-19-2005, 07:36 PM

where is candyflip, maybe he can make acgalleries.com

bigdog · 01-19-2005, 07:45 PM

if i remember the reason acmoviepass retains real well is that you have to cancel by phone

jimmyf · 01-19-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No thanks necessary, I did not know who owned it, just saw the obvious legalities in trying to claim AC as anyone's.

Come to think of it wouldn't Thomas Edison have something to say about it since he got the patent on alternating current (AC).

Edison got the patent for DC current, some guy in Europe got it for AC way way back, then sold it for 60 K to General Electric or Westinghouse, forget which.

Fletch XXX · 01-19-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

where is candyflip, maybe he can make acgalleries.com

oh shit man, i wasnt expecting this pearl.

lmao

01-18-2005, 10:27 PM	#1
martyVP Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,917	AC Partner...Nice name but you are totally infringing on ACmoviepass.com Come out Come out wherever you are and lets talk turkey.

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01-19-2005, 07:38 AM	#20
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01-18-2005, 10:36 PM	#2
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01-18-2005, 10:37 PM	#3
DX Feed me coffee. Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Massafuckingchusetts Posts: 1,128	never heard of either of them..

01-18-2005, 10:49 PM	#10
martyVP Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,917	Well we don't really advertise ACmoviepass much...people who now the secret promote us 8.2 month retention, no bullshit.

01-18-2005, 10:54 PM	#11
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	For what it's worth, I don't see any confusion between the two; different logos, acpartner is a webmaster program while acmoviepass is a surfer site, just the same first two letters. ACPartner's surfer sites don't begin with AC. ACPartner is using it to stand for "adult cash." There's also a different sponsor called adultcash, another one called adultcashier, there's adultmegacash, adultactioncash, adultpartnercash, and so on. ACPartner could use adultcashpartner, but then they'd be confused with adultpartnercash. Maybe I'm overlooking some other details, but I don't see the grounds for a trademark infringement claim. Or are you talking some other form of infringement, like they're using your content or something?

01-18-2005, 11:44 PM	#16
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Sorry Marty, I disagree. He is infringing as much as you are. Pretty sure they have a trademark on AC.

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DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	ahhh let em be..there not hurting anyone

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attention_whore Why does my mouse have brown stains? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: CA Posts: 335	Yeah, better change the name or they will use the money they stole from webmasters to fund their lawsuit against you! __________________ Not promoting the hottest sponsors on the net? click here to start!

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	hey Marty, Karma's a bitch aint it? I can't believe anyone running one of those shitty non converting AC related sites would have the ballz to post bitching about anything in public. Ye AC moviepass retains longer than the industry average when you are getting sales upgrading old AC Gold surfers if there are any left by now, but prepare for 1:9000 conversions on typical traffic that converts at 1:500 or better for any other decent video site from a REPUTABLE sponsor, and not one that screws over 10K+ webmasters. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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cold_ice Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 3,027	Some no one can use the letters AC?

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	thanks baddog. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

01-19-2005, 10:51 AM	#31
MJH Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 18	never dealt with Marty only ever dealt with Laith and his two faced, back stabbing side kick Tim. Adultcheck have been screwing webmasters over and keeping the money for years. They still owe me many many thousands of dollars. What goes round comes round eventually though ehh... It must be hell to be constantly worried that your past may come back to get ya at any time ..... MJH

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Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Is marty and acmoviepass the same as Acpay.com ? No wonder all webmasters hate you and your program.. Guess it is time for another begging "PLEASE PROMOTE MY SITE" thread that we all have come to love.

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MJH Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: UK Posts: 18	Hey Brad You know the real deal.... MJH

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	wow, finally a thread with some drama I care about, got the MJH/Shaw deal AC whining about someone using "AC" in their company name.. now if I could just get that Australian son of a bitch that owes me $200k to chime in, I'll butter the popcorn! __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com Last edited by gleem; 01-19-2005 at 07:34 PM.. Reason: damn

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	where is candyflip, maybe he can make acgalleries.com

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bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	if i remember the reason acmoviepass retains real well is that you have to cancel by phone