People do not realize how big mailers are - GoFuckYourself.com

slapass · 05-10-2005, 07:32 AM

Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

chupachups · 05-10-2005, 07:33 AM

Amen to that!

polish_aristocrat · 05-10-2005, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there.

no, he never made that much I think

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

Naughty · 05-10-2005, 07:37 AM

I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a crash course in mailing. None of the big players are willing though, and I salute them for it. Fuckers.

nico-t · 05-10-2005, 07:42 AM

2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

pradaboy · 05-10-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

mailing as in spamming

nico-t · 05-10-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

mailing as in spamming

so mailing is just ordinary spamming to random email adresses? Or is there an idea behind it?

Relish XXX · 05-10-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

I send out email newslertters to expired members and current members. We also gather in email addresses from pages like www.vickiepowell.com and a varietey of other sources.

slapass · 05-10-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

umm or reality. Maybe you want to look around. Your boss does that level in sales. People can do it.

sherie · 05-10-2005, 08:01 AM

Of course there is an idea behind it. God bless the one's that know what they are doing!

European Lee · 05-10-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

Whilst you are in essence correct, the larger problem is that so many webmasters beleive the ONLY sources of traffic are tgps, link lists and SE's by the time they realize how wrong they were, its already to late for them.

Regards,

Lee

xclusive · 05-10-2005, 08:02 AM

I wonder how much has been made from spamming fake rolex?

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

umm or reality. Maybe you want to look around. Your boss does that level in sales. People can do it.

and who is my boss?
lol this should be good.

polish_aristocrat · 05-10-2005, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

I wonder how much has been made from spamming fake rolex?

ask Franck how much he made and multiple it by 5

Manowar · 05-10-2005, 08:06 AM

mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

slapass · 05-10-2005, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

and who is my boss?
lol this should be good.

Dude i have not been dogging you but sharing my info. i thought you worked for "warningpages.com" which is owned by Rick from CJ. If you are a sig whore that is fine. I was wrong.

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?

slapass · 05-10-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?

You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Dude i have not been dogging you but sharing my info. i thought you worked for "warningpages.com" which is owned by Rick from CJ. If you are a sig whore that is fine. I was wrong.

for? no. with? yes.

havent had a boss since my stent over at arbys.

Kimmykim · 05-10-2005, 08:10 AM

Mailing is definitely not what it used to be, with CAN SPAM and the FTC out poking around, on top of Hotmail and Earthlink and the rest of the ISPs suing people left and right.

But back in the day, mailing was the single biggest way to generate joins, from a conversion and a dollars standpoint.

Doing 10k a day in joins isn't that much really, especially not at 35 bucks a join...

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.

LOL
so all those lawsuits m$ are serving up, and the people aol is throwing in jail are all false cases with no leg to stand on.

im sure that mailing is 100% legal. just ask any of those guys doing time for it.

the guy in NC who JUST got handed 9 years, go ask him about the legalitys of mailing. im sure he would love to talk to you about them. only thing is, visiting hours are only 10-2 on saterday and sunday.

slapass · 05-10-2005, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

LOL
so all those lawsuits m$ are serving up, and the people aol is throwing in jail are all false cases with no leg to stand on.

im sure that mailing is 100% legal. just ask any of those guys doing time for it.

the guy in NC who JUST got handed 9 years, go ask him about the legalitys of mailing. im sure he would love to talk to you about them. only thing is, visiting hours are only 10-2 on saterday and sunday.

If you live in the US it is illegal. And it has risks outside the US. But where Nick lives it is legal last time I looked.

Odie · 05-10-2005, 08:23 AM

mail traffic has def been the most profitable for sure! It's just too bad that many have "disappeared." Many have gone on the dl and are not making the same $$ that they were back in the day.

latinasojourn · 05-10-2005, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

true, and also tricky if you are USA based.

you've got to follow the law specifically or risk going to jail.

IMO UCE for porn ain't cool from an integrity aspect, too many minors have email addresses nowadays, but for mainstream items it can work.

you need offshore servers and the ability to change IP's rapidly internally without using proxies.

it can be done, but is not a project for newbies without cash.

Jensen · 05-10-2005, 08:25 AM

suddenly 50 dudes are thinking about doing this after they realized they could do $10k a day instead of submitting galleries doing $35 a day?

Dirty F · 05-10-2005, 08:29 AM

Then again, 95% of the mailers do a few 100 bucks a day.

Its no different than any other traffic source. Most submitters do a few sales and 5% makes tons.

Same with paysites, freesites, you name it. Only advantage mailing has its easy as fuck and 10 mins work a day for those few 100 bucks.

NoCarrier · 05-10-2005, 08:30 AM

Canada is a safe place for spamming (So far).

Dirty F · 05-10-2005, 08:31 AM

Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

Dirty F · 05-10-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier

Canada is a safe place for spamming (So far).

So is Holland.

brand0n · 05-10-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

yea, im pretty stocked up on rolex action, might wanna switch it up

eldominik · 05-10-2005, 09:40 AM

Bdjuf is making peanuts.

Dirty F · 05-10-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

yea, im pretty stocked up on rolex action, might wanna switch it up

Yeah, they are redesigning the rolex sites. Should be ready next week

TheEnforcer · 05-10-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Whilst you are in essence correct, the larger problem is that so many webmasters beleive the ONLY sources of traffic are tgps, link lists and SE's by the time they realize how wrong they were, its already to late for them.

Regards,

Lee

There it is!!

TheEnforcer · 05-10-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?

Hahahaha.. oh man that post is too funny.

You know what the difference between snail mail spam and e-mail spam is? The government gets a cut of snail mail spam.

nico-t · 05-10-2005, 09:47 AM

ok im gonna look for mailing resource sites.
and who said bdjuf makes $10k a day, i only saw a post of him where he made $300 in 3 days.... so we are a lil exagurating arent we?

eldominik · 05-10-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

ok im gonna look for mailing resource sites.
and who said bdjuf makes $10k a day, i only saw a post of him where he made $300 in 3 days.... so we are a lil exagurating arent we?

MAYBE he made that money in his whole life.

Relish XXX · 05-10-2005, 09:53 AM

If I send out my newsletter I do more sign up than when I had gallery spots at Marks Bookmarks, Call Kelly and The Hun. The newsletter costs fuck all to mail out. GTS charge. I would still buy in spots with GTS though.

Odie · 05-10-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

send away...which dating site will you be using??

I haven't had any luck in that market..

Dirty F · 05-10-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eldominik

MAYBE he made that money in his whole life.

You are clueless...now stfu.

TDF · 05-10-2005, 09:57 AM

mailing is boring but good money..my mind needs a mental workout..just another nuance of being a genius

nico-t · 05-10-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

The newsletter costs fuck all to mail out. GTS charge. I would still buy in spots with GTS though.

i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

Tony Montana · 05-10-2005, 10:05 AM

Very true.

fireorange · 05-10-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

GTS = Gallery Traffic Service = paid spots on TGPs

pradaboy · 05-10-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

he means he has a list of subscriptions (optins) or expired members that he mails.

SykkBoy · 05-10-2005, 01:07 PM

even mailers aren't what they used to be
there used to be a lot of mailers that could drop 400-500 joins per day on you, now those same people are barely able to send 100 and others even less...
there is also a disctintion between UCE and opt-in mailers (whether they be single or double opt-in)

tranza · 05-10-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

So is Holland.

So is Brazil.

But I don't think I'll ever try spamming.

JSA Matt · 05-10-2005, 01:08 PM

havn't heard much from DeanCapture lately............ :X

fris · 05-10-2005, 01:20 PM

spamforum.biz

cambaby · 05-10-2005, 01:22 PM

Yes all you non-USA people should quit TGPs and the like and start mailing. Go for it you can do it.

05-10-2005, 07:32 AM	#1
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	People do not realize how big mailers are Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big. We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

05-10-2005, 07:33 AM	#2
chupachups Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden/Spain you sum bitch! Posts: 6,576	Amen to that! __________________

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Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,477	I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a crash course in mailing. None of the big players are willing though, and I salute them for it. Fuckers. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

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05-10-2005, 07:42 AM	#6
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	2nd time i ask and now i want answers: How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

05-10-2005, 08:06 AM	#16
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Mailing is definitely not what it used to be, with CAN SPAM and the FTC out poking around, on top of Hotmail and Earthlink and the rest of the ISPs suing people left and right. But back in the day, mailing was the single biggest way to generate joins, from a conversion and a dollars standpoint. Doing 10k a day in joins isn't that much really, especially not at 35 bucks a join...

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Odie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The WATER BABY! Posts: 7,040	mail traffic has def been the most profitable for sure! It's just too bad that many have "disappeared." Many have gone on the dl and are not making the same $$ that they were back in the day. __________________ Odie [email protected] Are you Mobile???? MMACanada ICQ # 166208354 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

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Jensen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 3,790	suddenly 50 dudes are thinking about doing this after they realized they could do $10k a day instead of submitting galleries doing $35 a day?

05-10-2005, 08:29 AM	#27
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Then again, 95% of the mailers do a few 100 bucks a day. Its no different than any other traffic source. Most submitters do a few sales and 5% makes tons. Same with paysites, freesites, you name it. Only advantage mailing has its easy as fuck and 10 mins work a day for those few 100 bucks.

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NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Canada is a safe place for spamming (So far). __________________

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

05-10-2005, 09:40 AM	#32
eldominik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: EU Posts: 454	Bdjuf is making peanuts.

05-10-2005, 09:47 AM	#36
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	ok im gonna look for mailing resource sites. and who said bdjuf makes $10k a day, i only saw a post of him where he made $300 in 3 days.... so we are a lil exagurating arent we?

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Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	If I send out my newsletter I do more sign up than when I had gallery spots at Marks Bookmarks, Call Kelly and The Hun. The newsletter costs fuck all to mail out. GTS charge. I would still buy in spots with GTS though. __________________

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TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	mailing is boring but good money..my mind needs a mental workout..just another nuance of being a genius __________________ Sig heil

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SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	even mailers aren't what they used to be there used to be a lot of mailers that could drop 400-500 joins per day on you, now those same people are barely able to send 100 and others even less... there is also a disctintion between UCE and opt-in mailers (whether they be single or double opt-in) __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Yes all you non-USA people should quit TGPs and the like and start mailing. Go for it you can do it.