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Old 05-20-2005, 12:07 PM   #51
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Old 05-20-2005, 12:15 PM   #52
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Sleazy, thanks for many great interviews, you're doing funtastic job! All of them are well worth reading.
Been looking forward to this one for quiet some time
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hmmm.. well I guess it's as good a time as ever to get started..


1. How did it feel when thehun finally over took you with traffic?


My site is a different critter than theHun. His site has always been a tgp while mine has always predominantly been a list of sites. I did not add the gallery postings until November of 1999. So, there are inherent differences in his traffic versus mine. Counters are just numbers. $$ are what I prefer to count.
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:47 PM   #59
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Persian Kitty is also one of the two reasons my sites exist as well. She gave me a HUGE start building traffic to my free sites. My FIRST start on my free sites, actually. Those free sites led to my pay sites...
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... and remember to brush those teeth, of course. :D
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PK is a good shoulder to whine and cry on too... We've had many late nights man hating.. lol

Hey can you add one more question on that list? I need her recipe for chicken and dumplings.. the one WITH the bisquick. thanks
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PK is a good shoulder to whine and cry on too... We've had many late nights man hating.. lol

Hey can you add one more question on that list? I need her recipe for chicken and dumplings.. the one WITH the bisquick. thanks
Sounds like i'm coming over to someones house for dinner.
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Wow this should be good... It's Persian Kitty traffic and XPics as an affiliate that got me into this many years ago. I don't know if I should thank her or hate her, but it's a hell of an influence! Way to go PK!
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:10 PM   #66
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PK, you are an icon. Yours was the first free site I ever surfed. You opened my eyes to the OTHER side of the industry way back in '97. No, not the 'free site' side (vs paysite side)... but rather the ASS-KICKING GIRL SIDE!!!

You are a legend. Not to mention you are the ONE & ONLY (Furry-Purry) GODDESS of the adult industry.

I am SOOOOOOO looking forward to reading this thread!


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This is why:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=470047
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Hey PK thanks for inviting me to the thread. It should be a great read. You def know your shit
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2. Do you miss working at the local drag strip? Did you ever dream of driving the cars? Did you ever drive them?


That was almost 30 years ago. I still go to the drags or the races once or twice a year. Being from the South I wish we has some real Nascar up here.

I?ve driven a few fast cars? some faster men. Did high school drags back in ?78 and ?79 in a friend?s car. It was fun, but I don?t have that death wish anymore.
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:35 PM   #73
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2. Do you miss working at the local drag strip? Did you ever dream of driving the cars? Did you ever drive them?


That was almost 30 years ago. I still go to the drags or the races once or twice a year. Being from the South I wish we has some real Nascar up here.

I?ve driven a few fast cars? some faster men. Did high school drags back in ?78 and ?79 in a friend?s car. It was fun, but I don?t have that death wish anymore.
Persian Kitty, the Shirley Muldowney of PRON!

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Originally from Birmingham, Alabama.
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3. Did you end up hiding any salami when you worked your way though college?


Nahh.. not salami.. a few pickles maybe (I love a good dill pickle) I worked 40 hours a week at a deli/convenience store and did their books also on top of carrying a full university schedule.

I?ll be very happy if I never have to make another corned beef on rye with heavy mustard in my life.
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I'm looking forward to this one, as well.

When I first got into the biz and told my Dad what I was doing, he asked if I'd ever been to PK... said it was one of his favorite sites.
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Then we've probable been to the same track. Steele or Holiday Beach?

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Wow, Persian Kitty is an inspiration to us and one of our best traffic sources. This is going to be an awesome interview
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Then we've probable been to the same track. Steele or Holiday Beach?

No drags in Alabama for me. I was pretty young then.

Been to plenty of Nascar when I was growing up though. Talledega primarily
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2. Do you miss working at the local drag strip? Did you ever dream of driving the cars? Did you ever drive them?


That was almost 30 years ago. I still go to the drags or the races once or twice a year. Being from the South I wish we has some real Nascar up here.

I?ve driven a few fast cars? some faster men. Did high school drags back in ?78 and ?79 in a friend?s car. It was fun, but I don?t have that death wish anymore.
I'm not sure what part of Washington you are in, but if you're close to Seattle, check out the Evergreen Speedway. All kinds of racing events go on there (drags, oval, figure-8, demolition derbys, etc).

I've been going there since I was a little kid, and still visit on nearly every trip I make up to Seattle to visit relatives.

Evergreen Speedway

A great bargain too.

In the greater Bay Area we have a good variety of racing tracks and events, including annual Nascar races, and great sports car tracks, such as Infinion (formerly Sears Point), and Laguna Seca. This summer will be the inagural San Jose Grand Prix (which I already have VIP tix to).

Can't wait to read the rest of your answers.

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Yeah the big free site owners have pseudo celebrity status with surfers.
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I'm not sure what part of Washington you are in, but if you're close to Seattle, check out the Evergreen Speedway. All kinds of racing events go on there (drags, oval, figure-8, demolition derbys, etc).

I've been going there since I was a little kid, and still visit on nearly every trip I make up to Seattle to visit relatives.

Evergreen Speedway

A great bargain too.

Been to Monroe many times. Love the Bus demo derbys.
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I definately look forward to reading her responses as well!
I love her site..
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I'm not sure what part of Washington you are in, but if you're close to Seattle, check out the Evergreen Speedway. All kinds of racing events go on there (drags, oval, figure-8, demolition derbys, etc).

I've been going there since I was a little kid, and still visit on nearly every trip I make up to Seattle to visit relatives.

Evergreen Speedway

A great bargain too.

In the greater Bay Area we have a good variety of racing tracks and events, including annual Nascar races, and great sports car tracks, such as Infinion (formerly Sears Point), and Laguna Seca. This summer will be the inagural San Jose Grand Prix (which I already have VIP tix to).

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4. How come you seem to have a talent to get raises when it comes to working with meat? Is there any sexual influence there? Discuss

Hey?come on now. I was a young mother. A girl's gotta get a raise however she can. What this question refers to is my first job out of college working in the accounting office for a regional food manufacturer. Started at minimum wage which wasn?t jack in 1983 as 3rd clerk. After a year I was promoted to 1st clerk and got the largest percentage raise (35%) in company history. No sexual influences there... heck I was way to naive for that.
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5. Talk about the shitty work you had to do for a plumbing company.


Sleazy must have been thinking about that yacht too much when he read my information. I didn?t work for a plumbing company. It was a concrete pumping company. Different pipes. I dispatched and did the books there. Was the only female of 18 employees.

Only shitty thing that ever happened there..... The guys that owned the place were hunters. Come in one morning in the fall of 88, and they told me not to go out into the shop. Seems they had a couple of deer out there hanging up, bleeding them out. Okay..no problem.. thanks for the warning.

About mid-morning I decide to take my garage can from my office out to the small dumpster. Open the lid... there's two Bambi heads looking right up at me. The way they tell it, I screamed louder than they'd ever heard anyone scream before. They all came running and realized what had happened. They were too afraid to laught (at least with me standing right there).
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About mid-morning I decide to take my garbage can from my office out to the small dumpster. Open the lid... there's two Bambi heads looking right up at me. The way they tell it, I screamed louder than they'd ever heard anyone scream before. They all came running and realized what had happened. They were too afraid to laugh (at least with me standing right there).


I'm only laughing 'cuz that's a funny f*cking story (and you're not standing right here).

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6. Admit it - you didn't work for a mental health agency, you were a patient weren't you. Why did they release you? Are you better now?

No..honest. (dropping the ax behind me and pushing it under the sofa with my foot).

I was general accounting manager for a regional mental health agency. They lost their county contract within a few months of my resignation. Laid off my boss and the person I trained to replace me. I still run into some of their clients from time to time which can be scary if they remember me.
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7. Why did you create Persian kitty? When? talk about the early days.

I bought a PC for my home in early 94. It had Compuserve software loaded on it. I logged on one day to check it out and stumbled onto their real-time chat. There I was sitting at this login prompt asking for a nick name. Never thinking about the fact I could change it anytime I wanted to, I stewed over this for some time and finally typed in ?PersianKitty" because my Persian cat, Smokey, was staring at the monitor also. The nick name stuck and luckily I didn't choose something like Hellacious Hanna or I might not be here today. Over the next few months I developed some really kewl friendships with people on Compuserve chat. I spent a heck of alot of time and money I didn't have at the time there. No $20 dial up accounts for Compuserve at that time. In early 95, Compuserve added Internet access to their services and I started cruising the net. I had a long-distance boyfriend who had peaked my interest in softcore porn, so we'd surf together sometimes just for something to do. At this time I was totally burned out at my job. In 4 years as Accounting Manager, I'd gone through two complete systems changes and it looked like the company was getting ready to downsize. I needed a break. I decided to take a few months off and play stay at home mom with my two boys. Something I had never done.

In August of 95, Compuserve raised their rates. Myself along with what would end up being over 100 people from the chat channel I frequented found ISPs for dial up and moved to the Undernet of IRC for chatting where I have a channel (I rarely go there anymore). $20/mo was a lot better then $400+/mo. About a month later I put up a little personal webpage. Nothing fancy. I didn't know html except from viewing source code on things I liked from sites I ran into. Whenever I saw a piece of a website where I liked how they'd done one thing or another I'd save a snippet of code in a file to review later and figure out how they did it.

With my little personal page I was fascinated with that fact that people from all over the world at all times of the day and night could be visiting something I actually put on the net. I decided I wanted to put something up that would draw some traffic just to see how many people I could get to my corner of the web. At that time the major 3rd party counter was Digits.com. The highest ranked sites on their list were Adult Link sites (NaughtyLinx and For Your Eyes Only). I decided since that seemed to be the way to get fast traffic I'd try an adult link site.

The first page went up on my personal ISP on October 1, 1995. It had 3 sections about less then 80 links. It only made sense to call it Persian Kitty?s Adult Links since that's what I was known by to my cyberfriends. I would hunt for links myself by visiting other link sites everytime they updated and looking through their listings for sites I liked and (cringe to think of trying to do it now) by reading Usenet postings about adult websites. Whenever I added a link I'd email the webmaster and let them know about it and tell them about my site. I didn't require a reciprocal link until March, 1998, but lots of people linked me back. I believed in running the site like I'd want to see a site I visited regularly run. That meant daily, sometimes several times a day, updates.

In late October, my site got added to Yahoo and traffic went quickly to about 20K uniques a day. My personal provider said "Pay or take it down". I wasn't doing the site for money, had never dreamed that someone would actually pay to advertise on it, so I replaced the page with the details of why I was taking it down. I emailed everyone on the listings also. Within 24 hours I had 3 offers for sponsorship (one was from the man who is now my server guru, another was from the people with Spice Entertainment). Each would allow me to run my site for free in exchange for an exclusive "sponsored by" ad at the top of the page (I only had one page at that time). Being stubborn I was searching for ways to do it myself. I found a host in Texas, Hypercon, who agreed to host me for a basic rate. I'd told them exactly how much traffic I was doing. After moving my pages to them (still not on a domain.. I had no clue what Internic was) and spending 3 days chasing down sites with my link on them to ask them to change the URL, Hypercon removed my site. Even though I'd been upfront with them and they hosted a few other adult sites, they tried telling me that their "board of directors" had decided they wouldn't host adult sites. Yet the other sites never got removed.

I immediately contacted one of the three sites that had offered sponsorship. The man who was to become my server guru extraordanaire was running a site called Secrets of Speed Seduction. He set me up with an account, registered persiankitty.com (under his name at the time.. boy to think if I'd fallen in with the wrong person). I again contacted all those people who had links to me and asked them to change the URL. PersianKitty went back online with a text ad for Secrets of Speed Seduction. I'd had a total of 4 days downtime between all of it. Well there was a weekend in there ;)

I continued to hunt for sites to list and started having people email me to be linked. Back then there weren't all the tricks around so finding sites to list wasn't too hard. I added a weekly pose picture so that I draw in some traffic that way. By February of 1996, the site was seeing over 80K uniques a day. I was being contacted alot by people wanting to advertise on the site. Because I wasn't paying for hosting, etc. I turned them all down, telling them that it wouldn't be fair to the person paying for my hosting. A couple got very persistent. I told Lewis, my server guy, about them. He asked what they wanted to pay. I hadn't even bother to ask and I had no clue what to charge. Well the most persistent of all was Webpower (Amateur Hardcore at that time), I asked the owner what he would be willing to pay and the number he came back with was more than twice in a week then I'd been making a month at my old job. I was floored. He wanted to do a week trial, paid in advance. Lewis and I decided that we'd change our arrangement. He continue doing the server upkeep, etc (PK was on part of one machine, a P85, on a shared T-1 at that time) for a percentage of the ad revenue. The trial week went great and Webpower has had the top position on my site since late February 1996. Within a month Intertain Online followed as a second full time banner. They paid 3 months in advance to start with. The owner of Intertain Online later partnered with Dean (The General) on Unfaithful and other sites. Danni started bugging me for an ad placement in the summer of 96. She was very persistent. I didn't want to ad more bandwidth by loading a second banner on the pages (webpower?s ad at the time was text only and Intertain's was a banner). She agreed to host the banners on her side at that point. In August of 1996, I added Danni's banner underneath Webpower?s. All three of these advertisers are still with me today. IEG hooked me for a 12 month contract for my second page banner spot. An experience that was less then pleasant but I got through it. I can't believe I was ever that naive.

By this time also, PK was running on two separately located machines through parts of two separately located T-1s. Eventually this number when to 4 machines on 4 separate T-1s. I added the double stacked rotating banners in September 1996 mainly because I had so many people asking to advertise and the 4 sponsors I had weren't going anywhere. Also most people at that time couldn't afford a full time slot so it made since to break it up in smaller more affordable pieces.

Persiankitty.com today runs on two beefy servers with more connectivity the most ISPs have. I've been very very lucky to have aligned myself with a server guy who cares about what he does.
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yep, like most cats who started way back... PK was my main bookmark in '97. good 2 c u r still here & doing well. also like many others, i do hope to meet u in person 1 day. good 2 c this interview... actually the only one of these i've looked forward to reading


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That reply was great. I love reading about the beginings of the the adult scene...
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Oh Lord, fantastic! It was PK herself who accepted my LSC free site in late '99 and made me 14 SUs from it. That was the start of my work in adult.

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PersianKitty was the reason I got interested in adult. I think I was working as a shelf stocker in a local supermarket back then. I read an article about PersianKitty in USA Today. That article mentioned revenue numbers that shocked me, and I realized there was money in online adult entertainment. Thanks, PK!
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