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Rui · 06-22-2005, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

How is what fris did any different than you posting Danza's stats/graph/etc.

Pot meet kettle.

Yeah that came to mind...

Karma is a bitch eh

jact · 06-22-2005, 09:42 AM

Has anyone seen my shoes? I need to go out and can't find my shoes....

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Dravyk · 06-22-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Brad, your lawyer and yourself are a bit off.. This isn't a hack, it?s an open exploit. Courts have proven many times over that this type of ?hacking? is not illegal.

And to help clear things up, YOU DID THE SAME THING TO NATS with other NATS accounts.

Fix your product rather than threatening to sue every time someone hurts your feelings.

Let's not ruin the thread by bringing logic, facts and legal precedent into this.

Mike A · 06-22-2005, 09:45 AM

[b]CDSmith is a cunt

mikeyddddd · 06-22-2005, 09:46 AM

Ice · 06-22-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

Has anyone seen my shoes? I need to go out and can't find my shoes....

In the kitchen...near the table where you ate dinner last night

TheDoc · 06-22-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

Let's not ruin the thread by bringing logic, facts and legal precedent into this.

My bad :/

I think they should put on some 18oz boxing gloves and have a webmaster knock out match.. Sueing is for pussies..

CDSmith · 06-22-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike A

[b]CDSmith is a cunt

Exactly.

FuqALot · 06-22-2005, 09:47 AM

Hah I didn't even know what this thread was about when I first replied to it. I never seen the thread with the snapshots. Way to go fris hahah, nice!

jact · 06-22-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by iceicebaby

In the kitchen...near the table where you ate dinner last night

Thanks, I'll check there next! So thoughtful

Fletch XXX · 06-22-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

My bad :/

I think they should put on some 18oz boxing gloves and have a webmaster knock out match.. Sueing is for pussies..

or a knife fight

http://www.webmasterknifefights.com

jact · 06-22-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike A

[b]CDSmith is a cunt

I agree, but I'd still fuck him. Hubba hubba, CD.

Dirty D · 06-22-2005, 09:51 AM

Are you going to tell his mommy too?

wjxxx · 06-22-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike A

[b]CDSmith is a cunt

You are cuntowned

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polish_aristocrat · 06-22-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike A

[b]CDSmith is a cunt

OMFG

TheDoc · 06-22-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

or a knife fight

http://www.webmasterknifefights.com

Fletch you may be to hardcore for Brad..

mardigras · 06-22-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

Let's not ruin the thread by bringing logic, facts and legal precedent into this.

Oh come on, those things are fairly easy to ignore... Just look at half the threads on legal issues around here. People breeze right over posts containing those distracting items all the time

polish_aristocrat · 06-22-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

Oh come on, those things are fairly easy to ignore... Just look at half the threads on legal issues around here. People breeze right over posts containing those distracting items all the time

mardigras - you should be green

fris · 06-22-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

fris is such a fucking idiot. I really hope he gets nailed this time.

shall i post logs of you msging me on icq crying to me why i hate you?

dont be pissed off you little minion

mrkris · 06-22-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

shall i post logs of you msging me on icq crying to me why i hate you?

dont be pissed off you little minion

I would be willing to bet that fris has a dedicated fileserver which contains nothing but logs for incidents like this

CDSmith · 06-22-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

its what i do for a living and i have been doing security consulting for 7 years.

Just a quick question fris. Don't shoot me, I'm just asking....

Did BradShaw hire you to check his setup for exploitable holes?

If not, my question is... are you in the habit of searching out exploitable holes for companies who didn't ask you to do so?

Isn't that kind of like an auto mechanic going into people's garages and working on their car without an invitation?

"HEY! What are you doing to my car??!"

"I'm a mechanic, it's my job. I'm just checking your car for any potential problems"

I wish my mechanic would do that for me.

cherrylula · 06-22-2005, 10:21 AM

well hello ladies!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-22-2005, 10:21 AM

Fris what ya did is wrong dude...

I knew ya were an asshole.
I knew it would be only a matter of time before unquestionable proof of such came about. Ya fuck with the bull ya get the horns. Ya can bet your gonna have to go all the way to court over the matter.

Brad does not fuck around.
Unfortunatly your such a newb ya got no idea what your up against....

mrkris · 06-22-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Just a quick question fris. Don't shoot me, I'm just asking....

Did BradShaw hire you to check his setup for exploitable holes?

If not, my question is... are you in the habit of searching out exploitable holes for companies who didn't ask you to do so?

Isn't that kind of like an auto mechanic going into people's garages and working on their car without an invitation?

"HEY! What are you doing to my car??!"

"I'm a mechanic, it's my job. I'm just checking your car for any potential problems"

I wish my mechanic would do that for me.

I would like to actually answer this one. If fris would not have done what he had done, Brad wouldn't have known(?) about the issue, thus, if a blackhat found the hole, they could be stealing all of everyones information. Granted, fris might not have respected privacy by posting the info, but he got Brads attention and I am hoping by this point the issue is being resolved with the software. I myself am into pen-testing (just now getting into web-pen-testing) but the same concept applies. Someone has to do it to stay on top of the game, otherwise people will get owned.

The Dawg · 06-22-2005, 10:28 AM

Uh, who did what now?

s9ann0 · 06-22-2005, 10:30 AM

>> Fris what ya did is wrong dude...

so you wouldn't be mad if people could go to http://www.amazon.com/cards/ and download your credit card details?

and you think that if someone pointed this out to Amazon they should be arrested ?

jawanda · 06-22-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

Uh, who did what now?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=483565

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-22-2005, 10:34 AM

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crockett · 06-22-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

I would like to actually answer this one. If fris would not have done what he had done, Brad wouldn't have known(?) about the issue, thus, if a blackhat found the hole, they could be stealing all of everyones information. Granted, fris might not have respected privacy by posting the info, but he got Brads attention and I am hoping by this point the issue is being resolved with the software. I myself am into pen-testing (just now getting into web-pen-testing) but the same concept applies. Someone has to do it to stay on top of the game, otherwise people will get owned.

with open holes like that, there is no telling how many times the info could have already been stolen by others. Just because Fris is the first to point it out, doesn't mean others haven't already found those same holes and are using them to their advantage.

Sometimes I wonder why my webmaster e-mail accounts get so much fucking spam.. Could it be the sponsors selling their lists? Could it be open holes like this, just waiting for my info pluss every other webmasters and even customers info sitting their waiting to be taken.

Holly · 06-22-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

well hello ladies!

Hola chica

XPays · 06-22-2005, 10:39 AM

xxxice · 06-22-2005, 10:40 AM

ok just got back from wendys what happened ?
all i can say is fris is a great guy

dirtydesignz · 06-22-2005, 10:41 AM

Looks like Fris did you a favor Brad.....

Let's not forget how you posted screen shots of Danzas stats right here on GFY.....

I understand that you have egg on your face and you are a bit embarrassed, but lashing out at Fris is the wrong way to go. Maybe you should be concentrating on fixing your mess instead of threatening the guy who showed you the problem in the first place and quite possibly saved you millions in damages IF the wrong person had discovered your mistakes.....

jawanda · 06-22-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtydesignz

Looks like Fris did you a favor Brad.....

Let's not forget how you posted screen shots of Danzas stats right here on GFY.....

I understand that you have egg on your face and you are a bit embarrassed, but lashing out at Fris is the wrong way to go. Maybe you should be concentrating on fixing your mess instead of threatening the guy who showed you the problem in the first place and quite possibly saved you millions in damages IF the wrong person had discovered your mistakes.....

Indeed. Seems Brad would be liable if this information was taken from his (OPEN) system and used illegally.

CDSmith · 06-22-2005, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

I would like to actually answer this one. If fris would not have done what he had done, Brad wouldn't have known(?) about the issue, thus, if a blackhat found the hole, they could be stealing all of everyones information. Granted, fris might not have respected privacy by posting the info, but he got Brads attention and I am hoping by this point the issue is being resolved with the software. I myself am into pen-testing (just now getting into web-pen-testing) but the same concept applies. Someone has to do it to stay on top of the game, otherwise people will get owned.

I see what you're saying and where you guys are coming from, but it still doesn't answer my question.

Is fris in the habit of just picking a company and doing consulting work for them without actually being asked to or officially hired?

Is this some kind of good samaritan thing some of you guys are doing?

Unpaid exposing of exploits R us?

06-22-2005, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

How is what fris did any different than you posting Danza's stats/graph/etc.

Pot meet kettle.

Owned.

DirtyJ_ExtendedMarketing · 06-22-2005, 10:54 AM

my question is this..
say you own a business with an actual store front. One day you leave the office and forget to close the back door. Its wide open. Along comes a man who walks right in, goes into your back office and starts looking through customer information. He then leaves and goes and tells others that there is this private information in this unlocked, open, building.

Is that legal? My opinion is no.. under our current laws, I would have to say the guy is guilty of trespassing atleast. Then there is a conspiracy law since everyone else was told AND the guy knew he wasnt supposed to be there.. but he was.. and he told other people, while he had this knowledge... thats another law broken...

ChefJeff · 06-22-2005, 10:56 AM

Am I too late for a good sig spot?

candyflip · 06-22-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyJ_ExtendedMarketing

my question is this..
say you own a business with an actual store front. One day you leave the office and forget to close the back door. Its wide open. Along comes a man who walks right in, goes into your back office and starts looking through customer information. He then leaves and goes and tells others that there is this private information in this unlocked, open, building.

Is that legal? My opinion is no.. under our current laws, I would have to say the guy is guilty of trespassing atleast. Then there is a conspiracy law since everyone else was told AND the guy knew he wasnt supposed to be there.. but he was.. and he told other people, while he had this knowledge... thats another law broken...

Forgetting to lock the door is one thing, not even bothering to put locks on the door is something completely different.

Buddy · 06-22-2005, 10:56 AM

I don't know Brad, but I've seen his board persona and he seems to take great joy at pissing on other people, so all I can really say is that if you choose to live by the sword you die by the sword. But in the end I think these pissing matches benefit the rest of us. NATS is a better product because of the exploit that Brad pointed out publicly. If Brad is smart ES will be a better product tomorrow when he has fixed this issue. Someone needs to find and point out these problems so that they aren't exploited by a bad guy.

Mr Pheer · 06-22-2005, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

How is what fris did any different than you posting Danza's stats/graph/etc.

Pot meet kettle.

because he can dish it out, but he cant take it

LadyMischief · 06-22-2005, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyJ_ExtendedMarketing

my question is this..
say you own a business with an actual store front. One day you leave the office and forget to close the back door. Its wide open. Along comes a man who walks right in, goes into your back office and starts looking through customer information. He then leaves and goes and tells others that there is this private information in this unlocked, open, building.

Is that legal? My opinion is no.. under our current laws, I would have to say the guy is guilty of trespassing atleast. Then there is a conspiracy law since everyone else was told AND the guy knew he wasnt supposed to be there.. but he was.. and he told other people, while he had this knowledge... thats another law broken...

But if you left your door unlocked, sure as hell insurance wouldn't be paying out on it :P

ninavain · 06-22-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Fris what ya did is wrong dude...

I knew ya were an asshole.
I knew it would be only a matter of time before unquestionable proof of such came about. Ya fuck with the bull ya get the horns. Ya can bet your gonna have to go all the way to court over the matter.

Brad does not fuck around.
Unfortunatly your such a newb ya got no idea what your up against....

tranza · 06-22-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris

shall i post logs of you msging me on icq crying to me why i hate you?

dont be pissed off you little minion

You mean this?

Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:46 PM
You have sent a message to fris
Lol... I didn't know I had you on my list....
Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:46 PM
You have sent a message to fris
Why do you hate me?
Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:46 PM
You have received a message from fris
why are you msging me?
Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:48 PM
You have sent a message to fris
I was cleaning my list and I saw your name. I looked at the History and it seems that you didn't have any beef with me in January... So I wanted to know, why do you have beef with me?
Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:48 PM
You have received a message from fris
i dont care enough to answer
Date and Time: 06/09/2005 06:49 PM
You have sent a message to fris
lol... ok... nevermind.... I tried...

Where am I crying exactly?

Idiot.

MetaMan · 06-22-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Fletch you may be to hardcore for Brad..

wow he can take knife pics with a cam, he MUST be hardcore, i think all that shitty music he listens to has gotten to his head and think that we actually CARE.

kimmykim get a boobjob.

RAM · 06-22-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy

I don't know Brad, but I've seen his board persona and he seems to take great joy at pissing on other people, so all I can really say is that if you choose to live by the sword you die by the sword. But in the end I think these pissing matches benefit the rest of us. NATS is a better product because of the exploit that Brad pointed out publicly. If Brad is smart ES will be a better product tomorrow when he has fixed this issue. Someone needs to find and point out these problems so that they aren't exploited by a bad guy.

Very good point

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