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jonesy · 09-09-2005, 01:57 PM

51 love guns

FrankWhite · 09-09-2005, 01:58 PM

thats mine,

jonesy · 09-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Noir · 09-09-2005, 02:15 PM

here's my .40 ruger. I took the pic here too.

RayVega · 09-09-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honez

I don't have a personal pic of mine but, here she is.
Bersa Thunder 380

Ray, your new S&W conceal is sah-weet!

Much thanks, you have nice guns...errr, I mean a nice gun too.

Don't know many women who have guns...pretty cool.

I think everyone should have one, there would be much less crime.

WarChild · 09-09-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

smith and wesson 910S

love it, but i am now looking for something smaller, this one is a bit cumbersome to carry.

also i would like to get a larger caliber like .40 or .45

You want a .40 that's compact and easy to conceal? Check out the SIG 229 I posted a picture of.

throwdown · 09-09-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

smith and wesson 910S

love it, but i am now looking for something smaller, this one is a bit cumbersome to carry.

also i would like to get a larger caliber like .40 or .45

badass

Skillz Unlimited · 09-09-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasDreams

It's just perfect for home defense!

That's what i'm talking about!

Noir · 09-09-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by throwdown

badass

yay my favorite beer

Greg B · 09-09-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

i dont have a gat yet, i dont want one yet, not until it's legal to conceal it, i want to be known to have a concealed weapon

No.

I don't know what's wrong with you youngins displaying and boasting.

NEVER let anyone know you carry a weapon. Let them find out when it's too late to counter.

NEVER tell someone what kind of weapon you carry. If I know the make, I know the range and drawbacks.

NEVER tell someone where you carry your weapon. A good gunfighter can spot a concealed piece 50ft away.

I shoot expert. I come from over 300 years in the Americas of a shootin' family.

.38 bullets don't kill us, they piss us off.

A gun is a tool/weapon for stopping, stopping now, stopping forever. You clean it, respect what it is and does and NEVER play around with it.

It's not a toy, it's not an outfit accessory. It's a weapon/tool for killing something or someone.

There are alot of insecure people who have guns because of any number of mental aberrations. Those are the ones to avoid.

If you pull your gun out, you do so to kill a man, not to scare off or show off.

Gun safety and responsibility are foremost and a sign
of good citizenship and craftsmanship.

Learn how to clean your weapons under less than optimum circumstances especially in low light. You never know.

Again, guns are not for showing off. When you show them off you let your enemies know what to expect.

Forewarned is fore-armed.

Honez · 09-09-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

Much thanks, you have nice guns...errr, I mean a nice gun too.

Don't know many women who have guns...pretty cool.

I think everyone should have one, there would be much less crime.

Ahahaha! You like my guns, eh?

I grew up around guns and even used to go hunting with my dad and brothers. My .380 is mostly for home protection and came into my possession after a near home invasion by a couple of meth heads that thought my home was easy pickings.

WarChild · 09-09-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

No.
I shoot expert. I come from over 300 years in the Americas of a shootin' family.

300 years in the Americas shooting, eh? You sure about that?

mrthumbs · 09-09-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

No.

I don't know what's wrong with you youngins displaying and boasting.

NEVER let anyone know you carry a weapon. Let them find out when it's too late to counter.

NEVER tell someone what kind of weapon you carry. If I know the make, I know the range and drawbacks.

NEVER tell someone where you carry your weapon. A good gunfighter can spot a concealed piece 50ft away.

I shoot expert. I come from over 300 years in the Americas of a shootin' family.

.38 bullets don't kill us, they piss us off.

A gun is a tool/weapon for stopping, stopping now, stopping forever. You clean it, respect what it is and does and NEVER play around with it.

It's not a toy, it's not an outfit accessory. It's a weapon/tool for killing something or someone.

There are alot of insecure people who have guns because of any number of mental aberrations. Those are the ones to avoid.

If you pull your gun out, you do so to kill a man, not to scare off or show off.

Gun safety and responsibility are foremost and a sign
of good citizenship and craftsmanship.

Learn how to clean your weapons under less than optimum circumstances especially in low light. You never know.

Again, guns are not for showing off. When you show them off you let your enemies know what to expect.

Forewarned is fore-armed.

What are you, the lone ranger??

mrthumbs · 09-09-2005, 04:05 PM

AdnerAdvertising · 09-09-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IwantU Bryan

This is the only gun I ever use:

;-)

Greg B · 09-09-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

300 years in the Americas shooting, eh? You sure about that?

Yeah I'm more than sure about it. We still have flintlocks from the 1700s and 1600s in our family armory.

Actually it's a bit over 400 years.

Greg B · 09-09-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs

What are you, the lone ranger??

Alot worse.

Gun safety is a paramount issue with me. I've seen too many fools with guns.

The old saying that a fool and his gun will soon be parted is true.

Clean em', put em' in a safe place away from kids and drunk stupid relatives.

MikeyFingaz · 09-09-2005, 04:51 PM

Alot of nice weapons posted here. I'm too lazy to post pics.
guns owned:

glock23 .40 cal.
bushmaster xm-15 .223 cal.
mossberg 500 12 ga.

guns wanted:

springfield xd40 .40 cal
vepr ktr rifle 7.62x39mm
saiga spetznaz variant 12 ga.
H&K mp5 .40 cal

guns previously owned:
beretta 92fs
various glocks
ruger mini 14 .223 and 7.62x39

RayVega · 09-09-2005, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg B

No.

I don't know what's wrong with you youngins displaying and boasting.

NEVER let anyone know you carry a weapon. Let them find out when it's too late to counter.

NEVER tell someone what kind of weapon you carry. If I know the make, I know the range and drawbacks.

NEVER tell someone where you carry your weapon. A good gunfighter can spot a concealed piece 50ft away.

I shoot expert. I come from over 300 years in the Americas of a shootin' family.

.38 bullets don't kill us, they piss us off.

A gun is a tool/weapon for stopping, stopping now, stopping forever. You clean it, respect what it is and does and NEVER play around with it.

It's not a toy, it's not an outfit accessory. It's a weapon/tool for killing something or someone.

There are alot of insecure people who have guns because of any number of mental aberrations. Those are the ones to avoid.

If you pull your gun out, you do so to kill a man, not to scare off or show off.

Gun safety and responsibility are foremost and a sign
of good citizenship and craftsmanship.

Learn how to clean your weapons under less than optimum circumstances especially in low light. You never know.

Again, guns are not for showing off. When you show them off you let your enemies know what to expect.

Forewarned is fore-armed.

I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol).

But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period.

Anthony · 09-10-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol).

But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period.

Why is it all the MobBucks boys say they are expert shots?

sleazybunny · 09-10-2005, 04:21 AM

Do owning these guns, showing off and supposedly knowing how to use them make you all feel like REAL men(or women)? Sad

Why not have a "who has a biggest dick competition" as well ??

GUNS ARE BAD !!! They are designed to kill. Nothing else. Killing is bad!

I.

gangbangjoe · 09-10-2005, 04:28 AM

im waiting for franck to respond in this thread :D

"Rocky" · 09-10-2005, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomed

thats mine,

I'm not very experienced in gun theme, but is it "Desert Eagle"?

egato · 09-10-2005, 04:44 AM

Saved my live once.

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianonlytease

Do owning these guns, showing off and supposedly knowing how to use them make you all feel like REAL men(or women)? Sad

Why not have a "who has a biggest dick competition" as well ??

GUNS ARE BAD !!! They are designed to kill. Nothing else. Killing is bad!

I.

In some cases you are correct...For some people, it is a man thing. They feel tough because they have a gun. But for others, the skill of target shooting a handgun and knowing about them, the different models, the look and feel of them, tactical use, safety, training etc. is what they get off on. You can usually tell who "respects" the gun and who doesn't.

Same as automobiles. Some people collect or admire cars because of the feel of driving them, the satisfaction of knowing all about them, the look and feel from an artistic view, and some guys have a cranked up engine so they can lay rubber because it makes them feel like a man.

In either case one type should not be confused with the other. A car has several purposes, transportation, to facilitate the enjoyment of driving, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. A gun has many purposes as well, killing something, to facilitate the enjoyment of target shooting, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner.

whether something is "bad" or "good" should depend on the owners intention, not the object.

To say "guns are bad", you may as well say "Cars are bad" since they can cause someones death as well (and do so more often than guns).

cranki · 09-10-2005, 07:23 AM

guns are for pussies, I'll stick to my hattori hanzo sword... haaaaaya!

escorpio · 09-10-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianonlytease

Why not have a "who has a biggest dick competition" as well ?

Because you can't buy a big dick.

zipprice · 09-10-2005, 08:13 AM

here is mine
http://www.airforce-technology.com/c...tal/image3.jpg

cranki · 09-10-2005, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by egato

Saved my live once.

storytime!

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio

Because you can't buy a big dick.

Antonio · 09-10-2005, 09:14 AM

I'm so glad I live in a gun free country

monro · 09-10-2005, 09:14 AM

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

I'm so glad I live in a gun free country

my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.

smack · 09-10-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega

my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.

don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 01:36 PM

(QUOTE) I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol).

But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period.
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) In some cases you are correct...For some people, it is a man thing. They feel tough because they have a gun. But for others, the skill of target shooting a handgun and knowing about them, the different models, the look and feel of them, tactical use, safety, training etc. is what they get off on. You can usually tell who "respects" the gun and who doesn't.

Same as automobiles. Some people collect or admire cars because of the feel of driving them, the satisfaction of knowing all about them, the look and feel from an artistic view, and some guys have a cranked up engine so they can lay rubber because it makes them feel like a man.

In either case one type should not be confused with the other. A car has several purposes, transportation, to facilitate the enjoyment of driving, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. A gun has many purposes as well, killing something, to facilitate the enjoyment of target shooting, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner.

whether something is "bad" or "good" should depend on the owners intention, not the object.

To say "guns are bad", you may as well say "Cars are bad" since they can cause someones death as well (and do so more often than guns).
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."
__________________
smack

ALL very well said stuff guys

FrankWhite · 09-10-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky

I'm not very experienced in gun theme, but is it "Desert Eagle"?

yup, i also got 14" barrel on order.

MikeVega · 09-10-2005, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Why is it all the MobBucks boys say they are expert shots?

Tim hates the guns ..and i'm not a really good shot

... ray has had the most training ..

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smack

don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."

So true...in most cases they just point the blame at the police, or the penal system etc...I take responsibility for the security of myself and my family the same way I take the responsibility of raising my kids into my own hands, this way I only have to depend on one person, me.

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

(QUOTE) I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol).

But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period.
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) In some cases you are correct...For some people, it is a man thing. They feel tough because they have a gun. But for others, the skill of target shooting a handgun and knowing about them, the different models, the look and feel of them, tactical use, safety, training etc. is what they get off on. You can usually tell who "respects" the gun and who doesn't.

Same as automobiles. Some people collect or admire cars because of the feel of driving them, the satisfaction of knowing all about them, the look and feel from an artistic view, and some guys have a cranked up engine so they can lay rubber because it makes them feel like a man.

In either case one type should not be confused with the other. A car has several purposes, transportation, to facilitate the enjoyment of driving, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. A gun has many purposes as well, killing something, to facilitate the enjoyment of target shooting, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner.

whether something is "bad" or "good" should depend on the owners intention, not the object.

To say "guns are bad", you may as well say "Cars are bad" since they can cause someones death as well (and do so more often than guns).
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.
__________________
Ray "The Don" Vega

(QUOTE) don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."
__________________
smack

ALL very well said stuff guys

Thanks man, I try to approach things logically and realistically whenever I can.

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega

So true...in most cases they just point the blame at the police, or the penal system etc...I take responsibility for the security of myself and my family the same way I take the responsibility of raising my kids into my own hands, this way I only have to depend on one person, me.

so true bro, very well put.

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

OMG, they gonna blow each others titties off!!!

RayVega · 09-10-2005, 02:59 PM

just for fun...

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 03:03 PM

Nice, I want one, lol.

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

just for fun...

super sweet, it kinda looks like a fn fal. What exactly is it?? nice picatinny rails too. .223??? I noticed the short barrel, you gotta class3???

MikeyFingaz · 09-10-2005, 03:06 PM

looks like an ak trigger guard though.

MarkTiarra · 09-10-2005, 04:15 PM

My lovely .357... I like best that I can shoot .38s out of it but it's built for the heavy feedback of the .357s so when you shoot the lesser .38s they kick is very little.

I'll have to get a pic of my modded SKS up later. It's fun. =]

wedouglas · 09-10-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky

I'm not very experienced in gun theme, but is it "Desert Eagle"?

What does one of those run for?

Lace · 09-10-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Realpascal

Armed Dutchie:

Beretta 92...One hell of a gun, say that much

One of my personal favs.

Lace · 09-10-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

just for fun...

Thats not an H&K Is it?

Manowar · 09-10-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RayVega

just for fun...

sweeet

09-09-2005, 01:57 PM	#51
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09-09-2005, 02:15 PM	#54
Noir Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 449	here's my .40 ruger. I took the pic here too. __________________

09-09-2005, 04:51 PM	#68
MikeyFingaz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: next to the retards Posts: 1,569	Alot of nice weapons posted here. I'm too lazy to post pics. guns owned: glock23 .40 cal. bushmaster xm-15 .223 cal. mossberg 500 12 ga. guns wanted: springfield xd40 .40 cal vepr ktr rifle 7.62x39mm saiga spetznaz variant 12 ga. H&K mp5 .40 cal guns previously owned: beretta 92fs various glocks ruger mini 14 .223 and 7.62x39 __________________ ONLY AT JAYMANCASH

09-10-2005, 04:21 AM	#71
sleazybunny Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: uk Posts: 239	...make you feel like a man ??? Do owning these guns, showing off and supposedly knowing how to use them make you all feel like REAL men(or women)? Sad Why not have a "who has a biggest dick competition" as well ?? GUNS ARE BAD !!! They are designed to kill. Nothing else. Killing is bad! I.

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FrankWhite Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: nyc Posts: 3,540	thats mine,

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egato Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Saved my live once.

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cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	guns are for pussies, I'll stick to my hattori hanzo sword... haaaaaya!

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zipprice Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,009	here is mine http://www.airforce-technology.com/c...tal/image3.jpg

09-10-2005, 09:14 AM	#81
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	I'm so glad I live in a gun free country

09-10-2005, 09:14 AM	#82
monro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 787	My gun, Luger 9mm 1933.

09-10-2005, 01:36 PM	#85
MikeyFingaz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: next to the retards Posts: 1,569	(QUOTE) I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol). But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period. __________________ Ray "The Don" Vega (QUOTE) In some cases you are correct...For some people, it is a man thing. They feel tough because they have a gun. But for others, the skill of target shooting a handgun and knowing about them, the different models, the look and feel of them, tactical use, safety, training etc. is what they get off on. You can usually tell who "respects" the gun and who doesn't. Same as automobiles. Some people collect or admire cars because of the feel of driving them, the satisfaction of knowing all about them, the look and feel from an artistic view, and some guys have a cranked up engine so they can lay rubber because it makes them feel like a man. In either case one type should not be confused with the other. A car has several purposes, transportation, to facilitate the enjoyment of driving, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. A gun has many purposes as well, killing something, to facilitate the enjoyment of target shooting, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. whether something is "bad" or "good" should depend on the owners intention, not the object. To say "guns are bad", you may as well say "Cars are bad" since they can cause someones death as well (and do so more often than guns). __________________ Ray "The Don" Vega (QUOTE) my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live. __________________ Ray "The Don" Vega (QUOTE) don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it. and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun. then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family." __________________ smack ALL very well said stuff guys __________________ ONLY AT JAYMANCASH Last edited by MikeyFingaz; 09-10-2005 at 01:38 PM..

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MikeyFingaz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: next to the retards Posts: 1,569	Nice, I want one, lol. __________________ ONLY AT JAYMANCASH Last edited by MikeyFingaz; 09-10-2005 at 03:04 PM..

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MikeyFingaz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: next to the retards Posts: 1,569	looks like an ak trigger guard though. __________________ ONLY AT JAYMANCASH

09-10-2005, 04:15 PM	#96
MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	My lovely .357... I like best that I can shoot .38s out of it but it's built for the heavy feedback of the .357s so when you shoot the lesser .38s they kick is very little. I'll have to get a pic of my modded SKS up later. It's fun. =] __________________ Retired Pornosticator