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Doctor Dre · 02-06-2006, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

Business accounts are funded via wire ... bank takes their fee, but I don't think ePassporte takes a fee when you load the money on there. I could be wrong...we just have our transaction fee when we pay affiliates and such.

Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?

thaifan99 · 02-06-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

LOL I dont need to read it I know exactly whats going on

I am in contact with both companies on a weekly basis.. I get first hand information not off a gossip board.

I wouldnt worry about either company nothing is going to change only get better

hehehe.......

FUCKuPAYme · 02-06-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Lol, why post this with another nick? Also, I did not pick on you in every thread. And I'm not jealous as well. Why would I be jealous on you? Maybe you can fill me in

Thanks

Andre

Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer..

yes you always have some smart as remark.. do you really want me to pull all the threads where you say some bullshit thing like you think you know it all blah blah.. get a life

~R

you are jealous if your were not, you wouldnt have to post smart as remarks

rowan · 02-06-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

How does it work for the wires then ? What are the fees ?

Presumably the 5% fee covers the processing and fraud risk for CC's, wires are secured funds once they're in the destination account.

kristin · 02-06-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?

It's not really an ATM fee, when I pay affialiates I pay $2 per affiiate I pay. Or when I pay content like, It's Your Porn via EPassporte, it's $2 to send money.

So they make money on business accounts two ways ... $2 transaction fee plus all the interest it's earning sitting in CURACAO!!!

justsexxx · 02-06-2006, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme

Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer..

yes you always have some smart as remark.. do you really want me to pull all the threads where you say some bullshit thing like you think you know it all blah blah.. get a life

~R

you are jealous if your were not, you wouldnt have to post smart as remarks

Okay, was just asking why...And yeah I maybe made 2 posts based on 'your' reply. Why do you care?

And okay,I am jealous on you.

JFK · 02-06-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Collins

Very interesting read...thanks Shap for working this thread!

A lot of this information is very important to know. Especially the discussion about the way chargebacks are calculated (and how this has changed over the last couple of years).

Am I correct in the notion that by monitoring chargebacks on the url or individual company level should help protect the processors from one bad customer killing the whole company (and thus all the compliant customers)?

What a great business thread...on GFY no less!!

Matt

Is'nt that great Matt, a business thread...on GFY no less!!

The place never ceases to amaze me

TDF · 02-06-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FUCKuPAYme

You are an idot..

and yes I've been in the biz since 96 so I do know most everything and most in the biz who have been around are my friends.. I'm not someone who just posts on the boards.
Jealousy is a very nasty trait...
All you do is try to take jabs at me in every thread spend more time working and maybe you will know more as well

Dont be a hater

~R

hello roger..forgot to log out of your nick

justsexxx · 02-06-2006, 11:59 AM

And now back to topic...

JFK · 02-06-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF

hello roger..forgot to log out of your nick

His reply from above

"Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer.."

s9ann0 · 02-06-2006, 12:32 PM

ok I got the real scope! Paycom found out that epassporte were doing affiliate payouts for a gay teen boys site that used some content of one of their call centre twinks taken without permission while he was drunk at at a show

Rand · 02-06-2006, 12:55 PM

A little clarification for those that may be slightly confused by some of the posts here.

I'd like to be perfectly clear on a few points. The first is that our recent notice to Epoch clients regarding the cessation of payments via ePassporte does not affect any sponsors' ability to pay their affiliates via ePassporte. The only real change is that a client's proceeds (or portion thereof) will no longer be loaded onto an ePassporte business account. Epoch's decision should have no affect on ePassporte disbursements to affiliates.

Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen. Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios. Epoch's overall ratios for card association compliance are well within the required thresholds and those numbers are not tied to or reliant upon ePassporte or any other entity. More importantly, program operators in cooperation with Epoch have worked together to maintain ratios and still have the highest conversion rates in the industry. In fact, this the the primary job of any IPSP and the very formula for Epoch's success.

Third, Epoch has seen some big changes in the last year. We are all working toward a common goal of being the best we can be. Two companies that worked so closely together have parted ways and are no longer contracted to work together. Epoch's full attention is focused on its core competencies, as well as improving aspects of our services such as reporting and stats. Re-assignment of account representatives is taking place now to ensure that every single Epoch client has a "go to" person on their side watching out for their business and facilitating operations and production on their behalf. If you need to contact someone at Epoch or Paycom EU, there is someone to address your questions or concerns every single minute of every single day. Tech Support and Billing Support are staffed 24/7/365.

Write to [email protected]
Corporate Office: +1.310.827.5880 or +1.888.627.3888.

And lastly, I am pleased to announce that the Paycom sales team has been restructured and added many new members to further benefit our clients.

Mike Costanza, VP of Business Development, with over 10 years experience in Sales/Marketing will now run the department. Amanda Gross, former head of the sales department, is still a key member of the sales team in the capacity of a Senior Account Executive. New members Frank Gannon, Nora M'hamedi, and Angie Calderon join Amanda and veteran Account Executive Anthony Wheatle. Frank, a longstanding Paycom employee, brings years of experience and client relationships to the team. Nora comes from the merchant banking industry and is fluent in 5 languages while Angie is fluent in Spanish. Each member brings a personal touch to the team.

Every account has been assigned to a personal sales representative and will be contacted shortly. In addition to a "primary" sales representative, each account will have a "backup" sales representative. In summary, new members are:

Mike Costanza [email protected] ICQ: 236860417
Frank Gannon [email protected] ICQ: 283793400
Nora M'hamedi [email protected] ICQ: 348805214
Angie Calderon [email protected] ICQ: 312076286

Sales representatives are contacting clients now. If you have questions concerning your representative prior to being contacted, please email Mike at the address above.

Look for other improvements in the sales/marketing area in '06.

We appreciate your business.

Shap · 02-06-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

A little clarification for those that may be slightly confused by some of the posts here.

I'd like to be perfectly clear on a few points. The first is that our recent notice to Epoch clients regarding the cessation of payments via ePassporte does not affect any sponsors' ability to pay their affiliates via ePassporte. The only real change is that a client's proceeds (or portion thereof) will no longer be loaded onto an ePassporte business account. Epoch's decision should have no affect on ePassporte disbursements to affiliates.

Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen. Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios. Epoch's overall ratios for card association compliance are well within the required thresholds and those numbers are not tied to or reliant upon ePassporte or any other entity. More importantly, program operators in cooperation with Epoch have worked together to maintain ratios and still have the highest conversion rates in the industry. In fact, this the the primary job of any IPSP and the very formula for Epoch's success.

Third, Epoch has seen some big changes in the last year. We are all working toward a common goal of being the best we can be. Two companies that worked so closely together have parted ways and are no longer contracted to work together. Epoch's full attention is focused on its core competencies, as well as improving aspects of our services such as reporting and stats. Re-assignment of account representatives is taking place now to ensure that every single Epoch client has a "go to" person on their side watching out for their business and facilitating operations and production on their behalf. If you need to contact someone at Epoch or Paycom EU, there is someone to address your questions or concerns every single minute of every single day. Tech Support and Billing Support are staffed 24/7/365.

Write to [email protected]
Corporate Office: +1.310.827.5880 or +1.888.627.3888.

And lastly, I am pleased to announce that the Paycom sales team has been restructured and added many new members to further benefit our clients.

Mike Costanza, VP of Business Development, with over 10 years experience in Sales/Marketing will now run the department. Amanda Gross, former head of the sales department, is still a key member of the sales team in the capacity of a Senior Account Executive. New members Frank Gannon, Nora M'hamedi, and Angie Calderon join Amanda and veteran Account Executive Anthony Wheatle. Frank, a longstanding Paycom employee, brings years of experience and client relationships to the team. Nora comes from the merchant banking industry and is fluent in 5 languages while Angie is fluent in Spanish. Each member brings a personal touch to the team.

Every account has been assigned to a personal sales representative and will be contacted shortly. In addition to a "primary" sales representative, each account will have a "backup" sales representative. In summary, new members are:

Mike Costanza [email protected] ICQ: 236860417
Frank Gannon [email protected] ICQ: 283793400
Nora M'hamedi [email protected] ICQ: 348805214
Angie Calderon [email protected] ICQ: 312076286

Sales representatives are contacting clients now. If you have questions concerning your representative prior to being contacted, please email Mike at the address above.

Look for other improvements in the sales/marketing area in '06.

We appreciate your business.

HI Rand. Thanks for the update and the post. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one that was pleased to see and read this. Thanks

Validus · 02-06-2006, 01:44 PM

I think it is great to see Rand (Paycom) take the time to post here... really cool.

mattyboy · 02-06-2006, 02:47 PM

A welcomed post Rand.

AkiraSS · 02-06-2006, 03:18 PM

This leaves up Chris to comment,
I really like epass (much less hassle than going to the bank, waiting 3-4 days for a wire to arrive, then 5 days to be able to pick up your money or else get charged 1% fee)

Phoenix · 02-06-2006, 03:24 PM

i love my epassporte

CaptainHowdy · 02-06-2006, 03:32 PM

I love Epassporte and I LOVE RAND!!!!

Halcyon · 02-06-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I love Epassporte and I LOVE RAND!!!!

Now THAT is a policy I can get behind.

I want to put my money in "RAND'S BANK OF THE WORLD"

SleazyDream · 02-06-2006, 03:51 PM

as i understand it, these epoch/paycom and epassport companies have something to do with credit card processing and banking?

J.R. · 02-06-2006, 04:26 PM

Rand and Epoch have always looked out for their clients, I am sure
there is something signifigant behind this.

milambur · 02-06-2006, 04:44 PM

First I must say this is one of the best threads I have read on gfy on a very long time. Greenlabs posts are very interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios.

As I see the layout of the scheme there is no need to involve you at all, since it can be handled between the company that has CB issues and epassporte. So you will not have any CB issues, since your customers that are aware their biz model gives a high CB ratio will dilute their transactions with GCs enough to stay below 1%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand

Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen.

The "separation" looks like a real smart move since it gives epassorte a way to easier co-operate with other processors and it separate you futher from the potential visa crackdown on GCs.

What would be interesting to know is if there is an agreement to process the GCs at lower rate and what the costs are per transaction all fees included.

If this really is how it works I can even see how the affiliate payouts play a large role. So I doubt there will be any problems on that side.

justsexxx · 02-07-2006, 03:20 AM

I'm kinda suprised not more ppl know about these 'gift' cards. Many companies use(d) that...Also companies who had their own merchant account. They send out cards, have these cards join, and keep CB's low. Nothing new.

cica · 02-07-2006, 04:48 AM

anybody knows answer? or any ICQ no. on epassporte support now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cica

anyone knows, if epassporte will renew my account now? it was suspended without any reason (only one was, that an account was created by sunnydollars...) to whom may I write an email now after owners changes?

Michael O · 02-07-2006, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cica

anybody knows answer? or any ICQ no. on epassporte support now?

You can contact me using the info in my sig.

mikaels · 02-07-2006, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Lol, why post this with another nick? Also, I did not pick on you in every thread. And I'm not jealous as well. Why would I be jealous on you? Maybe you can fill me in

Thanks

Andre

ha ha ha - sorry, but this is priceless.......

sherie · 02-07-2006, 09:07 AM

I vote this thread the best business thread of 2006 so far.

JFK · 02-07-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie

I vote this thread the best business thread of 2006 so far.

The Year is young

Methodcash Rick · 02-07-2006, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?

Nope, with Business accounts, you fund by wire ( that's been established already ;) ) your bank then charges you a fee ( in our case $25.00 ) then Epassporte charges you a $30 fee, so it cost me $55 each time I wire money to EPassporte to load up my account, wether I load $1 or $10,000, the fee is the same..

cica · 02-07-2006, 11:46 PM

I wrote you an ICQ message...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

You can contact me using the info in my sig.

Doctor Dre · 02-08-2006, 01:22 AM

Great reply from Rand in this thread... I don't think anybody could have asked for more.

Rand · 02-08-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Great reply from Rand in this thread... I don't think anybody could have asked for more.

Thanks Dre, Shap, Hal, J.R., Cpatain Howday, MattyBoy, Validus, and others.

Everything is going to be fine. I hope the post helped stop the rumor mills for the sake of everyone.

Thanks, as always, for your support and your business.

02-06-2006, 11:59 AM	#209
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02-06-2006, 12:55 PM	#212
Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	A little clarification for those that may be slightly confused by some of the posts here. I'd like to be perfectly clear on a few points. The first is that our recent notice to Epoch clients regarding the cessation of payments via ePassporte does not affect any sponsors' ability to pay their affiliates via ePassporte. The only real change is that a client's proceeds (or portion thereof) will no longer be loaded onto an ePassporte business account. Epoch's decision should have no affect on ePassporte disbursements to affiliates. Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen. Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios. Epoch's overall ratios for card association compliance are well within the required thresholds and those numbers are not tied to or reliant upon ePassporte or any other entity. More importantly, program operators in cooperation with Epoch have worked together to maintain ratios and still have the highest conversion rates in the industry. In fact, this the the primary job of any IPSP and the very formula for Epoch's success. Third, Epoch has seen some big changes in the last year. We are all working toward a common goal of being the best we can be. Two companies that worked so closely together have parted ways and are no longer contracted to work together. Epoch's full attention is focused on its core competencies, as well as improving aspects of our services such as reporting and stats. Re-assignment of account representatives is taking place now to ensure that every single Epoch client has a "go to" person on their side watching out for their business and facilitating operations and production on their behalf. If you need to contact someone at Epoch or Paycom EU, there is someone to address your questions or concerns every single minute of every single day. Tech Support and Billing Support are staffed 24/7/365. Write to [email protected] Corporate Office: +1.310.827.5880 or +1.888.627.3888. And lastly, I am pleased to announce that the Paycom sales team has been restructured and added many new members to further benefit our clients. Mike Costanza, VP of Business Development, with over 10 years experience in Sales/Marketing will now run the department. Amanda Gross, former head of the sales department, is still a key member of the sales team in the capacity of a Senior Account Executive. New members Frank Gannon, Nora M'hamedi, and Angie Calderon join Amanda and veteran Account Executive Anthony Wheatle. Frank, a longstanding Paycom employee, brings years of experience and client relationships to the team. Nora comes from the merchant banking industry and is fluent in 5 languages while Angie is fluent in Spanish. Each member brings a personal touch to the team. Every account has been assigned to a personal sales representative and will be contacted shortly. In addition to a "primary" sales representative, each account will have a "backup" sales representative. In summary, new members are: Mike Costanza [email protected] ICQ: 236860417 Frank Gannon [email protected] ICQ: 283793400 Nora M'hamedi [email protected] ICQ: 348805214 Angie Calderon [email protected] ICQ: 312076286 Sales representatives are contacting clients now. If you have questions concerning your representative prior to being contacted, please email Mike at the address above. Look for other improvements in the sales/marketing area in '06. We appreciate your business. __________________ -- Rand Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

02-06-2006, 03:24 PM	#217
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02-06-2006, 03:51 PM	#220
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	as i understand it, these epoch/paycom and epassport companies have something to do with credit card processing and banking? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

02-07-2006, 03:20 AM	#223
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I'm kinda suprised not more ppl know about these 'gift' cards. Many companies use(d) that...Also companies who had their own merchant account. They send out cards, have these cards join, and keep CB's low. Nothing new. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

02-06-2006, 12:32 PM	#211
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	ok I got the real scope! Paycom found out that epassporte were doing affiliate payouts for a gay teen boys site that used some content of one of their call centre twinks taken without permission while he was drunk at at a show

02-06-2006, 01:44 PM	#214
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	I think it is great to see Rand (Paycom) take the time to post here... really cool.

02-06-2006, 02:47 PM	#215
mattyboy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,070	A welcomed post Rand.

02-06-2006, 03:18 PM	#216
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	This leaves up Chris to comment, I really like epass (much less hassle than going to the bank, waiting 3-4 days for a wire to arrive, then 5 days to be able to pick up your money or else get charged 1% fee)

02-06-2006, 03:32 PM	#218
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,567	I love Epassporte and I LOVE RAND!!!!

02-06-2006, 04:26 PM	#221
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	Rand and Epoch have always looked out for their clients, I am sure there is something signifigant behind this.

02-07-2006, 09:07 AM	#227
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	I vote this thread the best business thread of 2006 so far. __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor