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Old 06-01-2006, 03:10 PM   #151
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:35 PM   #152
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probably because of ignorance. You know how many innocent people were getting killed before we were there?????????????????????? We probably cut down the innocent killings 90%. Use your brain and think about that.
Probably? The slightest bit of fact checking will tell you that you are wrong. More Iraqi civilians have been killed as a result of "collateral damage" in US strikes in the past couple years than any that may have died at the direction of Sadaam his entire time in power.
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probably because of ignorance. You know how many innocent people were getting killed before we were there?????????????????????? We probably cut down the innocent killings 90%. Use your brain and think about that. That obviously sucks that that happened, but we're doing FAAAAAR more good then bad. And in this case, the bad was a mistake. No one is perfect
You have a severe maths problem and no clue of Iraq - so shut the fuck up till you do.

Your life needs to be re-evaluated on the same basis as lives in Iraq. Perhaps you may then think differently.

Fucking superfluous human trash - who breeds this scum?
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Probably? The slightest bit of fact checking will tell you that you are wrong. More Iraqi civilians have been killed as a result of "collateral damage" in US strikes in the past couple years than any that may have died at the direction of Sadaam his entire time in power.

now thats a load of bullshit if i ever heard it. 1000's of ppl died under sadaam, they find mass graves from time to time, one figure i heard was that if you avg it out about 330 ppl a day died during his reign
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here is some light reading

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/830317/posts

remember saddam was a ruthless leader for over 20 years
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When will the madness end? So much power, hate, control, money and greed running the world today.

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Old 06-01-2006, 08:33 PM   #159
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So he cant drive down a road in HIS country?
Not if Police and Army Forces require a checkpoint.

You try drving into an army base and run the checkpoint, come back to talk about it.
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Not if Police and Army Forces require a checkpoint.

You try drving into an army base and run the checkpoint, come back to talk about it.
Roger I like you but the bottom line is this. It is his country and it doesnt belong to the US. He should be able to do what he likes in there allowing it is legal to the laws of Iraq.
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It is his country and it doesnt belong to the US. He should be able to do what he likes in there allowing it is legal to the laws of Iraq.
If things were at that level, and that simple, we wouldnt be there.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:33 PM   #162
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If things were at that level, and that simple, we wouldnt be there.
You are there so that Dick Cheney and George Bush can get rich. The world doesnt need America. You need us. You are the ones who are obese. You are the ones with a serious gun problem and one of the highest murder rates in the world. Yet you can correct other peoples countries for them.
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Your mother must be a retarded monkey fucking ape to have been able to produce someone capable of coming out with such a shit comment. it is his country not Americas. I hope some terrorists blow the wankers away that shot that lady.
You are worse than the trash that flew the two planes into the towers.

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When will the madness end? So much power, hate, control, money and greed running the world today.

Almost makes you not proud to be a human.
I agree with that statement more than any other.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:35 PM   #165
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You are there so that Dick Cheney and George Bush can get rich. The world doesnt need America. You need us. You are the ones who are obese. You are the ones with a serious gun problem and one of the highest murder rates in the world. Yet you can correct other peoples countries for them.
Your right about oil tycoons making bucks... but the other shit your spewing, overweight people, guns, wtf? Jesus dude
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Your right about oil tycoons making bucks... but the other shit your spewing, overweight people, guns, wtf? Jesus dude
But you are fat. 60% of Americans are obese.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:44 PM   #168
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But you are fat. 60% of Americans are obese.
you dont know me. LOL

even if you did, wtf does that have to do with anything?

Fat fuckers all over the world.. look at your mom
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even if you did, wtf does that have to do with anything?

Fat fuckers all over the world.. look at your mom
My mum was a model for Vogue in the 60's with Twiggy. Guarantee you she is not fat.
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you dont know me. LOL

even if you did, wtf does that have to do with anything?

Fat fuckers all over the world.. look at your mom


stop feeding the trolls.. its past their bed time anyways
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I think they turned on the water and power. And planted some trees or something.
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My mum was a model for Vogue in the 60's with Twiggy. Guarantee you she is not fat.


my mom can beat up your mom, she's in the military and is expert in the 9mm and m-16 so there
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My brother made it out of Iraq alive, thank God, but many of his men did not. Those that I have met from his troop were so disillusioned. They thought they could go there and help people while a better government system was built. Good guys with big hearts and dashed hopes lost many friends. True, in the beginning their were soldiers on tape abusing and torturing prisoners. True, some soldiers have thrown their morality, if they had any, to the wayside. There are dirty cops, dirty priests and obviously some dirty soldiers. I think there is a small percentage of scumbags in just about every profession. IMO you can't let the bad apples spoil the whole bunch, or some shit like that. Not agreeing with anything that is going on over there, just hoping good men don't come back and get treated the way the soldiers did that came back from Vietnam.
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I'm sorry man but I think I choose to believe this side of your story:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...6B6888E3E8.htm

Where the US military actually concludes they where lying...

"A US military investigation into the killings of 24 Iraqi civilians by marines last year will conclude that troops lied to their superiors, who in turn failed to investigate the reports fully, the Washington Post has said."
First of all, I'd never believe anything ever said at an Aljazeera. They are less of a news organization, and more of a propaganda machine for the Muslim world. Note that their sources are "anonymously".

Second, I'm not saying anyone didn't lie. I'm saying that a peaceful convoy was attacked by an RPG, and one Marine was killed. The Marines quickly went on the offensive. You've got to be a stupid mother fucker to go head to head with forty Marines armed to the teeth. The person who shoot the RPG hid amoung the civilians, and the Marines went after him. If anyone busts down my door in a combat zone I'm running for my life, and when Marines are chasing a gunman who killed one of their own, well, they shoot first and ask questions later. When it's a matter of life and death, and the next breath you take might be your last, you don't stop, knock on the door, and ask kindly if any women or children are inside.

Again, I'm not saying anyone didn't lie. I'm sure that nearly everyone invovled lied, trying to cover it. All of these Marines are there fighting in a war they really didn't want to be a part of, and got caught up in a bad situation. The lied to cover their asses. In a matter of seconds they went from being honrorable Marines to have the blood of a dead platoon mate on their bodies, got caught up in a bad situation, and they are just trying to keep their ass out of the brig.

This isn't downtown Miami, where the police knock on your door to execute a search warrent. This is a combat zone, Marines trained to kill, and one of their buddies had just fallen.
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here's the thing: the fight in the middle east is about the oil $$$ . . nothing more and nothing less . . this is why the iraqis can't get along anbd why bin ladin is trying to dump the saudi royal family . . the palisitinas are fighting about welfare money though . . because they have no oil . .

but everytime one of these ass wipes pulls someting or says they're gonna do something the price of oil jumps .

our troops have the right to live through this crap no matter what you or anyone else thinks . . if they gotta kill a bunch of 'possible civilains' so be it . .

and the reality is you have no idea who killed those people . . you know damn well the arabs are more than capable of killing unarmed people and blaming us . .
In case you haven't noticed, most wars are about oil. Without it, countries die. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor becuase the US was cutting them off from oil.

If the Middle East was to suddenly cut us off from the oil, the US would become a third world nation in a matter of months.
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My brother made it out of Iraq alive, thank God, but many of his men did not. Those that I have met from his troop were so disillusioned. They thought they could go there and help people while a better government system was built. Good guys with big hearts and dashed hopes lost many friends. True, in the beginning their were soldiers on tape abusing and torturing prisoners. True, some soldiers have thrown their morality, if they had any, to the wayside. There are dirty cops, dirty priests and obviously some dirty soldiers. I think there is a small percentage of scumbags in just about every profession. IMO you can't let the bad apples spoil the whole bunch, or some shit like that. Not agreeing with anything that is going on over there, just hoping good men don't come back and get treated the way the soldiers did that came back from Vietnam.
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First of all, I'd never believe anything ever said at an Aljazeera. They are less of a news organization, and more of a propaganda machine for the Muslim world. Note that their sources are "anonymously".

Second, I'm not saying anyone didn't lie. I'm saying that a peaceful convoy was attacked by an RPG, and one Marine was killed. The Marines quickly went on the offensive. You've got to be a stupid mother fucker to go head to head with forty Marines armed to the teeth. The person who shoot the RPG hid amoung the civilians, and the Marines went after him. If anyone busts down my door in a combat zone I'm running for my life, and when Marines are chasing a gunman who killed one of their own, well, they shoot first and ask questions later. When it's a matter of life and death, and the next breath you take might be your last, you don't stop, knock on the door, and ask kindly if any women or children are inside.

Again, I'm not saying anyone didn't lie. I'm sure that nearly everyone invovled lied, trying to cover it. All of these Marines are there fighting in a war they really didn't want to be a part of, and got caught up in a bad situation. The lied to cover their asses. In a matter of seconds they went from being honrorable Marines to have the blood of a dead platoon mate on their bodies, got caught up in a bad situation, and they are just trying to keep their ass out of the brig.

This isn't downtown Miami, where the police knock on your door to execute a search warrent. This is a combat zone, Marines trained to kill, and one of their buddies had just fallen.

Bla bla bla ....

Were you there ?

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If anyone busts down my door in a combat zone I'm running for my life,
Would you get shot , running; like this woman in a speeding car ...

OK, Aljezeera has an agenda, as much as Fox ...

Is MSNBC acceptable to you as source ?

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NBC News broke the story on May 25, when military officials told NBC's Jim Miklaszewski that seven Marines were believed to have dragged an innocent Iraqi man from his home in April, killed him in cold blood and then tried to conceal the crime.

The alleged incident occurred April 26 in the town of Hamandiyah. The Marines are accused of dragging the innocent man from his home, shooting him to death, then planting an AK-47 rifle and a shovel next to his body, apparently to make it appear the man had been burying an IED, one of the roadside bombs that have been so deadly to U.S. forces in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13090111/from/RS.1/
But truth here cannot be said, because it upsets the people like you and collegues .... and labels start flying .. same as in 2003 ...

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seems like facts are hard to argue with ... it is easier to believe fairy tales, aint it?

Seems also that Rochard condone the killing of innocent Iraqi civilians .... but that is OK...
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You are worse than the trash that flew the two planes into the towers.

Quit life.
Sheesh.. How long have you had this love affair with Relish XXX?

There is only one load of trash worse than those that flew planes into the towers.

That's the trash who sent US forces to invade Iraq.

Go there and join them in the cause of freedom and democracy or shut the fuck up.


PS. My tolerance level for US trash is getting less every day.
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seems like facts are hard to argue with ... it is easier to believe fairy tales, aint it?

Seems also that Rochard condone the killing of innocent Iraqi civilians .... but that is OK...
looks like no more fairy tales... damn!
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looks like no more fairy tales... damn!
seems that lies are OK here, even libel ...
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