FINALLY! Kremen VS ARIN! Antitrust and etc... w00t - GoFuckYourself.com

SplitInfinity · 07-19-2006, 11:44 AM

Finally someone stands up for the "net". Gary Kremen filed this
lawsuit against ARIN, nice shit!! Goooood JOB Gary!

Steve Cohen: Still in Jail.
ARIN: On the chopping block.

Read this PDF and shit! ARIN wont be able to fight it.

http://www.splitinfinity.com/misc/kremenVSarin.pdf

ne0 · 07-19-2006, 11:45 AM

bump for the justice

media · 07-19-2006, 11:47 AM

Damn... thats some interesting news... reading the pdf...

stickyfingerz · 07-19-2006, 11:47 AM

Reading it good stuff!!

JFK · 07-19-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Reading it good stuff!!

YUP

Chris · 07-19-2006, 11:59 AM

hmm
i never really understood antitrust suits but this gives me a good view on it

on page 10 now or so

i think i can pretty well brief it :

kerman is sueing arin because when kerman won his judgement aginst cohen and all his assests or whatever and in that judgement he got he was awared the netblock with arin had .... arin didnt give it - kerman feels he would of gotten more traffic to his site and would of been able to host more sites if he had this netblock he should of be given ....If he had the netblocks he feels that he would of had better rankings in google lol

yes he said that :P

joshuawk · 07-19-2006, 11:59 AM

how many IP addresses is he trying to sue for?

200 million or something? how many class c's is that

Los · 07-19-2006, 12:58 PM

where i see bullshit is on page 19 - 20

1) if your having to hide your info i dont think 99% of the members that own ip blocks would want to do anything with you.

2) anyone that has gone thru the process of getting ips would know that arin does give very good guidlines of justification.

note: arin does not make it easy to obtain netblocks but in good reasoning to keep the scum at bay. if you have gone thru the process you know it's a lot of work. and from reading this thing it dosnt look like arin was asking them for anymore info then they would ask the next person.

seeric · 07-19-2006, 01:02 PM

reading now.

Manowar · 07-19-2006, 01:04 PM

hah, this will get interesting

Drake · 07-19-2006, 01:05 PM

hmmm interesting

MsWild · 07-20-2006, 05:52 AM

very interesting...

joshuawk · 07-24-2006, 03:12 PM

how many ip addresses is he trying to get

pocketkangaroo · 07-24-2006, 03:26 PM

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen

Seems he owes people money. Nothing against the guy, I just don't like guys who try to make money by suing people left and right.

XPays · 07-24-2006, 03:27 PM

hey chris - how do gary's balls taste

Pleasurepays · 07-24-2006, 03:59 PM

too lazy to read this. is it about gary suing because they allowed him to turn sex.com into a basket case?

s9ann0 · 07-24-2006, 04:17 PM

ARIN needs to understand IP addresses were invented so webmasters can spam google

Techie Media · 07-24-2006, 04:18 PM

Interresting reading for sure.

SplitInfinity · 07-24-2006, 04:38 PM

"hey chris - how do gary's balls taste"

I was hoping you would tell me before I took a bite myself.

LOL

SplitInfinity · 07-24-2006, 04:40 PM

So the deal is basically that Gary won the IP space in a court ruling....
Then ARIN said "No way, were not going to give them to you even though you now own the business and all its assets according to the court".
So Gary's suit is right on track. They are playing BS with him to try to get those IP's out of "historical" arin. Meaning they were assigned during a time
when ARIN had different rules and so are grandfathered in.
Gary has a legit case and will most likely win. And I'll tell you, if he does, it will change the face of IP space as we know it today.

07-19-2006, 11:44 AM	#1
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	FINALLY! Kremen VS ARIN! Antitrust and etc... w00t Finally someone stands up for the "net". Gary Kremen filed this lawsuit against ARIN, nice shit!! Goooood JOB Gary! Steve Cohen: Still in Jail. ARIN: On the chopping block. Read this PDF and shit! ARIN wont be able to fight it. http://www.splitinfinity.com/misc/kremenVSarin.pdf

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Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	hmm i never really understood antitrust suits but this gives me a good view on it on page 10 now or so i think i can pretty well brief it : kerman is sueing arin because when kerman won his judgement aginst cohen and all his assests or whatever and in that judgement he got he was awared the netblock with arin had .... arin didnt give it - kerman feels he would of gotten more traffic to his site and would of been able to host more sites if he had this netblock he should of be given ....If he had the netblocks he feels that he would of had better rankings in google lol yes he said that :P __________________ [email protected]

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joshuawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my moms house Posts: 1,092	how many IP addresses is he trying to sue for? 200 million or something? how many class c's is that __________________ i love GW

07-19-2006, 11:47 AM	#4
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Reading it good stuff!!

07-19-2006, 12:58 PM	#8
Los Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 427	where i see bullshit is on page 19 - 20 1) if your having to hide your info i dont think 99% of the members that own ip blocks would want to do anything with you. 2) anyone that has gone thru the process of getting ips would know that arin does give very good guidlines of justification. note: arin does not make it easy to obtain netblocks but in good reasoning to keep the scum at bay. if you have gone thru the process you know it's a lot of work. and from reading this thing it dosnt look like arin was asking them for anymore info then they would ask the next person.

07-19-2006, 01:02 PM	#9
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	reading now.

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Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	hah, this will get interesting

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	hmmm interesting

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07-24-2006, 03:12 PM	#13
joshuawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my moms house Posts: 1,092	how many ip addresses is he trying to get __________________ i love GW

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen Seems he owes people money. Nothing against the guy, I just don't like guys who try to make money by suing people left and right.

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	too lazy to read this. is it about gary suing because they allowed him to turn sex.com into a basket case?

07-24-2006, 04:17 PM	#17
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	ARIN needs to understand IP addresses were invented so webmasters can spam google

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Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Interresting reading for sure. __________________ sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	"hey chris - how do gary's balls taste" I was hoping you would tell me before I took a bite myself. LOL

07-24-2006, 04:40 PM	#20
SplitInfinity Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,047	So the deal is basically that Gary won the IP space in a court ruling.... Then ARIN said "No way, were not going to give them to you even though you now own the business and all its assets according to the court". So Gary's suit is right on track. They are playing BS with him to try to get those IP's out of "historical" arin. Meaning they were assigned during a time when ARIN had different rules and so are grandfathered in. Gary has a legit case and will most likely win. And I'll tell you, if he does, it will change the face of IP space as we know it today.