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Old 07-23-2006, 10:56 AM   #51
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:06 AM   #52
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Israel invaded Palestine one day before the palestinians would have recognzied the country. Which would have been the first step for peace. But they timed it that way so the peace does not come and they can invade the land of other nations.
What about that?

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This is coming from scum in Romania. Tell me, how many family members did you have who entered the army in 1940 along with Hitler's Nazi Germany.

Does your anger at the Jews/Israel come from the fact that your sorry asses lost and got called on being the anti-semitic douchebags that you truely are along with losing the war and remaining a 3rd world country.
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And for all of you bitching about the exact percent or numbers:
Its obvious that 90% is no where near the exact number, so stop debating that point and address what was actually discussed.
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FACT: Jews have tiny penises and are still pissed about that whole holocaust thing and intend to kill one for one how many of their own kind were killed by Hitler. They chose those of the Islamic faith to take their aggression out on.
thanks for supporting my point, fucking anti-semite!
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sure, sure...

http://www.startribune.com/722/story/562903.html

"All these topics are subject to review by Israel's chief military censor, who has - in her own words - "extraordinary power.'' She can silence a broadcaster, block information and put journalists in jail.

"I can, for example, publish an order that no material can be published. I can close a newspaper or shut down a station. I can do almost anything,'' Col. Sima Vaknin said Wednesday
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Talk about being brainwashed.... I bet you also heard the 90% number on Israeli news uh..? lol
link is broken....
what you say sounds like complete bullshit...
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It's in their nature.
another anti-semite!

(assuming you were referring to the jews...)
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:29 AM   #57
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They will always deny it, and chances are most of them will be bashing me soon enough in this thread, but this is the truth.

Here are quotes from Hooligan, who started another typical anti-ISRAELI thread:

"But throwing shit at synagogues are juvenile pranks and I doubt jews would mind."

Then Deputy Chief Command offered: "dont buy kosher food ! "

to which Hooligan replied:

"You have a point there.

I also think its a good idea to support CD and video sharing online.
The media corps are all jewish."


Then after I called Hooligan a racist in this thread, Mr. Soul replied:

"It's racist to oppose Irsrael's invasion of another country? You make me fucking sick. You should be the one who kills himself for the advancement of humanity. A comment like that proves what a sick fucker you really are."


He didn't even realize the anti-semitism in Hooligan's words....

I can pretty much assure, that in any so called "political" anti-Israeli thread, I could eventually find a jew hating quote.

Like I said, in 90% of the cases, it has nothing to do with opposing a governments' actions, or political arguments, in 90% of the cases it's just pure hate for the jews... neutral readers, pay attention to this next time you read anti-Israeli propaganda on GFY...


There is a small minority of people who oppose Israel but I believe are not anti-semite, directfiesta is probably a good example, and there are some others... but 90% of the time, well, like I said...
You seem like the smartest person on this forum.
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I would say there are definately anti-semitic assholes on GFY but people have been jealous/enraged at the Jews for centuries... this forum is no different.

With that said, just because someone opposes what Israel is doing now doesnt mean they are against Jews.

Another point is when people run their mouths without thinking, they may alienate potential business here. That is pure stupidity.
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I suppose that you are so inbreeded that you have been born without a brain. A few facts: lots of jews have been PROTECTED by Romanians during world war two, which you tend to forget. The number of jews saved by romanians outnumbers by far the jews killed by romainian.
And about Romania being a 3rd world country, check it once again - e are supposed to get into European union in like 5 months. Also in Romania the average income increased 4 times (400%) in the last 5 years.
Regarding the fact that we lost the war, I have nothing against it - we payed for that, and we payed it big time. BUt history tends to repeat itself.

Moving back to Israel - they start to piss Europe off and when they loose the EU support they will have problems. You can look at the problem in any way you want - the war in Lebanon is wrong and has nothing to do with kidnapped soldiers but with stealing land from other people to move the israeli colonists there. The day US stops being a superpower is the day when Israel is doomed.

And BTW that war costs Israel a lot of money to get some rocky land - so soon Israel will be a 3rd world country. The only thing they beat the fellow muslims is weapons - which are developed with US. The day Iran gets nukes will be a sad day for Israel because they won;t be able to blackmail the muslims with nuclear missiles ;).

Welcome to the real world, retards!

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link is broken....
what you say sounds like complete bullshit...
lol ... reality hard to believe? Try this link... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13941180/
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I suppose that you are so inbreeded that you have been born without a brain. A few facts: lots of jews have been PROTECTED by Romanians during world war two, which you tend to forget. The number of jews saved by romanians outnumbers by far the jews killed by romainian.
And about Romania being a 3rd world country, check it once again - e are supposed to get into European union in like 5 months. Also in Romania the average income increased 4 times (400%) in the last 5 years.
Regarding the fact that we lost the war, I have nothing against it - we payed for that, and we payed it big time. BUt history tends to repeat itself.

Moving back to Israel - they start to piss Europe off and when they loose the EU support they will have problems. You can look at the problem in any way you want - the war in Lebanon is wrong and has nothing to do with kidnapped soldiers but with stealing land from other people to move the israeli colonists there. The day US stops being a superpower is the day when Israel is doomed.

And BTW that war costs Israel a lot of money to get some rocky land - so soon Israel will be a 3rd world country. The only thing they beat the fellow muslims is weapons - which are developed with US. The day Iran gets nukes will be a sad day for Israel because they won;t be able to blackmail the muslims with nuclear missiles ;).

Welcome to the real world, retards!

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P.S. I am not antiesemite but I am anti-retards!
There is so much shit wrong with your post that i dont even want to address it.
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i was preparing a long speech - but i think i just go with Egomancers statement.

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I would say there are definately anti-semitic assholes on GFY but people have been jealous/enraged at the Jews for centuries... this forum is no different.
Let's also remember that GFY members at large do not discriminate against Jews, but they equally spew racist remarks against blacks, italians, mexicans, christians, etc.. it's equal opportunity racism in general.
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Ah equating jews with dogs - how nice

To say something is 'in their nature' is the essence of racism. Black people are cowardly 'because it is in their nature' is another oft quoted remark and usually prefaced by 'I'm not a racist its just a well known fact'

The statement (be it Jews or blacks) is accurate only because it conforms with your own prejudice. The fact that either statement is total bollocks has (unfortuantely) no bearing on the matter.

Israel does attract disproportionate criticism due to anti-semitism. That is fairly obvious. Criticism of Israel is not always due to anti-semitism. Again this is fairly obvious.

How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') is akin to Fox News giving a balanced critique on the Bush Administration.

On and not Jewish before you ask.

I did not "equate jews with dogs", it was an analogy. Would you prefer I had said "...it would be like asking a bird not to fly"? You probably wouldn´t like it because it would be harder to whine.

Ironically, you reinforced my point by doing exactly the same; opting to argue using the racist card. The fact is you are wrong. I stand by my statement as it is objective and not based on prejudice. And not sure why you included a reference to blacks, I suppose it is another out for you to reduce a debate back to the ´racist´ level rather than on it´s merits.

Lastly, read your own posts:

"How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. "

I believe that is called a blanketing, ignorant statement based on prejudice. And your next point:

"But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') ..."


I never made that statement either. Once again, in my opinion there is a natural tendency for certain groups always revert to "anti-semite" and "racist" card as an obfuscation from the real issue.

In closing, having to reply to posts like yours is exactly why I stay out of political debates on business forums.
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lol ... reality hard to believe? Try this link... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13941180/
well what's your point?

of course it's not cool when reporters say the exact place when a rocket fell, if it can help hezbollah in any way...

you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....
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another anti-semite!

(assuming you were referring to the jews...)
So I´m an anti-semite because I support holding a debate based on the merits of the issue rather than playing the "anti-semite" card?

That may fly with a lot of people but there will always be some that will see right through that obfuscation and call you on it. Your kicking and screaming isn´t going to help.
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this demonstration wasn't even reported on a single TV station... you know why? not because the TV channels are biased, but because this demonstration is way out of the concensus in Israel... and therefore it's not worth covering...

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you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....
so news isnt worth reporting if the majority of israeli's dont agree with it ?

Your right i can see how israeli's protesting israeli attacks prob isnt newsworthy. I can see why they wouldnt be reporting it to you or why your friends were telling you 500 people when i saw thousands of people and several news agencies put the numbers at 5000+
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well what's your point?

of course it's not cool when reporters say the exact place when a rocket fell, if it can help hezbollah in any way...

you said the israeli media censors protests against the war, which is just pure bullshit....

"Chief Military Censor" aka "Propaganda Minister"... What type of credibility the media/journalists of a country have when they are being censored under the pretext of national security? You really think that they only get censored when they want to talk about where rockets landed? Haha.. Just look at the US, nearly anything falls under national security these days...

And I didnt SAY that israeli media censors protests against the war, but with the media controled by the Government/Military, I wouldnt be surprised...
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I did not "equate jews with dogs", it was an analogy. Would you prefer I had said "...it would be like asking a bird not to fly"? You probably wouldn´t like it because it would be harder to whine.
It was more of a similie than an anology however the point is not that whether it is an anology or not but the reference you used. You did not state its 'like asking a bird not to fly' but referenced it to dogs - a subsconscious belief that jews are more comparable to dogs which has a more negative connotation than say birds ie 'dirty dog' 'she was a total dog' and so on.

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Ironically, you reinforced my point by doing exactly the same; opting to argue using the racist card. The fact is you are wrong. I stand by my statement as it is objective and not based on prejudice.
I argued on racist grounds as your comment was racist. It was also devoid of objectivity and based on prejudice. Ironically enough.

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And not sure why you included a reference to blacks, I suppose it is another out for you to reduce a debate back to the ´racist´ level rather than on it´s merits.
Its called an example. The act of highlighting a point made earlier.

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Lastly, read your own posts:
Somewhat redundant advice. As I wrote the post by definition I have read the post.

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"How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. "

I believe that is called a blanketing, ignorant statement based on prejudice. And your next point:
It is a blanket statement based on observation and the reading of numerous threads on GFY over the last few days. The 'based on prejudice' is moronic. Prejudiced against whom? GFY? People on GFY? Jew haters? You are making up sentances that have no meaning. Stop using 'cut and paste' and think before writing.

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"But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') ..."


I never made that statement either.
Its called sarcasm

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Once again, in my opinion there is a natural tendency for certain groups always revert to "anti-semite" and "racist" card as an obfuscation from the real issue.
By certain groups you mean 'Jews'

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In closing, having to reply to posts like yours is exactly why I stay out of political debates on business forums.
You do not have to reply to posts. It is not compulsary. However staying out of political debates is, for you, a wise move.

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Well think about it a bit harder.

How many ex Israeli terrorists became Prime Ministers. Ministers or leading figures in Israel?
Shamir , Ben Guryon and the others you so call ex terrorists never murdered women nor children , hail for the little difference .
Both jewish and ilsam are pushing to radical/extrimist way . difference between israelis and arabs is that 90% of israeli are secular , while in palestine/iran/egypt they are less than 20% secluar .
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FACT: 90% of the world population is anti-semite or will be antisemite if they were in contact with jews.

Source: human history since 2000 B.C.
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One of the most retarded things I have read in a while.

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Shamir , Ben Guryon and the others you so call ex terrorists never murdered women nor children , hail for the little difference .
Is there a requirement to murder women and children to qualify as a terrorist??

You missed Sharon from the list.
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Im not an anti-semite, however i do want to smack the piss out of those guys with the silly hair cuts and curls by their ears. I wish chicks would have those things.. It would make face fucking them a whole lot eaiser.

As far as the war goes, i think israel is justified.
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well guess what, Haaretz LIED!

I heard from people who saw the demonstration there weren't more than 500 people there...


you know what, even if there was 5000, do you REALLY think they represent a common belief in Israel? If you think so, you really are "living in a movie (translated from hebrew)" ...

PLUS, a high percent of those people (I won't make up an exact number, because I see numbers are a touchy subject for you) are ARABS... muslims... who don't serve in the army and obviously are against everything Israel stands for (except for democracy)... so what's so surprising?

this demonstration wasn't even reported on a single TV station... you know why? not because the TV channels are biased, but because this demonstration is way out of the concensus in Israel... and therefore it's not worth covering...
You should call one of your US relatives there are many jobs waiting for you in US news media, esspecially at FOX news they would give you a top position today you are more than over qualified
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I suppose that you are so inbreeded that you have been born without a brain. A few facts: lots of jews have been PROTECTED by Romanians during world war two, which you tend to forget. The number of jews saved by romanians outnumbers by far the jews killed by romainian.
And about Romania being a 3rd world country, check it once again - e are supposed to get into European union in like 5 months. Also in Romania the average income increased 4 times (400%) in the last 5 years.
Regarding the fact that we lost the war, I have nothing against it - we payed for that, and we payed it big time. BUt history tends to repeat itself.

Moving back to Israel - they start to piss Europe off and when they loose the EU support they will have problems. You can look at the problem in any way you want - the war in Lebanon is wrong and has nothing to do with kidnapped soldiers but with stealing land from other people to move the israeli colonists there. The day US stops being a superpower is the day when Israel is doomed.

And BTW that war costs Israel a lot of money to get some rocky land - so soon Israel will be a 3rd world country. The only thing they beat the fellow muslims is weapons - which are developed with US. The day Iran gets nukes will be a sad day for Israel because they won;t be able to blackmail the muslims with nuclear missiles ;).

Welcome to the real world, retards!

Egomancer

P.S. I am not antiesemite but I am anti-retards!

The term "Clueless idiot" comes to mind.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:06 PM   #85
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They never liked the independence of Palestine and they need resources from Lebanon.
I'm just curious, what resources does Lebanon have that Israel supposedly wants?

And I'm no expert by any means, still reading and researching, but from what I have been reading... Israel pulled out of both Lebanon and Gaza (by good-will or force, thats a totally different argument) and the militant groups continued to attack.
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I'm just curious, what resources does Lebanon have that Israel supposedly wants?
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minerals maybe ? boxite, iron ore etc , the whole area is a goldmine of resources. so is iraq, theres alot more than just oil under the sand

but i dont think thats why israel wants to be in lebanon , they want to be in lebanon because they are trying to ethnic cleanse themselves a border , but of course that will never work. all they are doing is breeding more hatred.

In 20 years the children of the handfull of jews killed will be nutjob radicals , and likewise the children of the hundreds of lebanese killed will also be radical nutjobs.. the problem is israel doesnt seem to be very good at math because they are creating 10 times the radicals on the "enemy" as they are themselves .. but then again they dont seem to be the smartest army in the world. after the original 2 soldiers were kidnapped they drove a troop full of idf soldiers over a known landmine field. It wouldn't suprise me to learn they did it on purpose to have a reason to start the war by upping the body count
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minerals maybe ? boxite, iron ore etc , the whole area is a goldmine of resources. so is iraq, theres alot more than just oil under the sand
That would take occupation.

What signs have they shown that they want any occupation? The buffer zone doesn't count.
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I'm just curious, what resources does Lebanon have that Israel supposedly wants?

And I'm no expert by any means, still reading and researching, but from what I have been reading... Israel pulled out of both Lebanon and Gaza (by good-will or force, thats a totally different argument) and the militant groups continued to attack.
The only thing I can see of importance would be if America/Israel wanted control of the whole Lebanese & Syria coastal region due to its strategical importance in the region. Other than that I don't know, I don't think Lebanon has much oil, although I suppose perhaps its just about the Land in the southern part of Lebanon
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