Beat ZANGO and others ( for affiliates ) - GoFuckYourself.com

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 01:41 PM

Most of the solutions have been focused on the sponsor level , well i thought i would shift focus and try to see what affiliates could do to solve the problem..

so i threw this little gem together ( any help would be great ) , keep in mind this isnt 100% effective but seems to be a good start anyways

WARNING this is a BETA example. use at your own risk. not all sponsors may allow being promoted using this method

tested on zango

make a blank php file called go.php this is where you will send your traffic

in this page simply put this

<script src=stb.php?stb.js></script>

now make a page called stb.php in the same directory and put this inside it
---------------------------
<?php
$ra = array("http://www.streetblowjobs.com", "http://www.cumfiesta.com");
srand(time());
$sizeof = count($ra);
$random = (rand()%$sizeof);
$top = ("$ra[$random]");
if ( eregi ( "yourdomain.com", $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'] ) )
{
// do nothing
}
else
{
$top = "http://google.com";
}

?>

var blank=" ";function fill() {parent.main.location.href='<?php echo $top; ?>';}
document.write('<frameset rows="100%,*" border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 onload=fill();>');
document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="main" SCROLLING="AUTO">');
document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="hidden" SCROLLING=no>');
document.write("<\/FRAMESET>");

--------------------------

tested on zango..

basically what we are doing is setting our sponsor in a frame from an external file that cant be read by zango thus its not "readily" apparent where the hit is going..

p.s. in the example im using random links as the target

heres an example in action http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 01:44 PM

im gonna test it out myself a bit and see if it works ill keep everyone updated..

if anyone else who runs alor of traffic wants to test it by all means d so and let us know how it goes. if you need help customizing it let me know

Nysus · 10-13-2006, 01:45 PM

Would be interesting for some high-traffic sites to try this out and see if there's a change in their revenues..

Matt

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 01:46 PM

p..s if your lost in how you would use this , basically instead of linking a streetblowjobs banner to streetblowjobs, you would link it to the go.php and it would show the same site. only hopefully most ref code rewriters wont be able to scoop the sale

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 01:53 PM

currently if you went to the links without using my method and the surfer had zango installed they would see ads for AFF and CAMS.com on top of the browser

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 01:57 PM

your example link don't works for me

http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

your example link don't works for me

http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php

what happens ? browser ? os ? etc

Damian_Maxcash · 10-13-2006, 02:00 PM

Wouldnt modern bowsers see that as a 3rd party cookie and not set it with normal security settings?

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

what happens ? browser ? os ? etc

nothing..just open the .go.php as a blank page

Os=xp.pro
Ie 6.0
NIS
and google toolbar

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:01 PM

keep in mind its just a demo . in a working version you would add some code so if the user couldnt visit the site in frames or has java disabled it would just forward using meta refresh or something

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

nothing..just open the .go.php as a blank page

Os=xp.pro
Ie 6.0
NIS

try view source for me if you would

SomeCreep · 10-13-2006, 02:02 PM

smokey you smart

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

try view source for me if you would

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

ahh you have nortons antivirus on . i would could code something around that pretty easily.. try the link again and see what you get just out of curiosity.. ( i just added a link to it but you should see a diff )

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-13-2006, 02:08 PM

thanks for the help......

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

ahh you have nortons antivirus on . i would could code something around that pretty easily.. try the link again and see what you get just out of curiosity.. ( i just added a link to it but you should see a diff )

ENTER HERE

SolidScripting · 10-13-2006, 02:12 PM

Bump for Smokey.

Great focus and probably the best solution.

Most sponsors engaging in this type of activity won't change if it's making them money.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

ENTER HERE

ok well for nortons users i would just make a forward and a link going straight to sponsor because nortons should stop the zango from working anyways

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:16 PM

so for anyone wanting to test this . you should add a basic html link to the first go.php file so it should contain this

<script src=stb.php?stb.js></script>
<body><center><br><a href=http://sponsorlink.com>ENTER HERE</a>

the link would only show up to users who cant view frames or apparantly those with nortons

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

ok well for nortons users i would just make a forward and a link going straight to sponsor because nortons should stop the zango from working anyways

you are doing a great job Smokey

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

you are doing a great job Smokey

thanks .. wanna just try it one more time so i can see if maybe nortons just didnt like the page format

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thanks .. wanna just try it one more time so i can see if maybe nortons just didnt like the page format

<html>
<head>

<script language="JavaScript">

</script>

<script src=stb.php?c=stb.js></script>
</head>
<body>
<center> <br><br><a href=http://cumfiesta.com>ENTER HERE</a>
</body></html>

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed

<html>
<head>

<script language="JavaScript">

</script>

<script src=stb.php?c=stb.js></script>
</head>
<body>
<center> <br><br><a href=http://cumfiesta.com>ENTER HERE</a>
</body></html>

hmm strange that nortons would blobk a legit request like that its just a php driven javascript.. i'll modify the code so you go straight there

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 02:33 PM

hey swed i modified it a bit to see if i could get around that a bit more effectively . see if theres any difference

TheSwed · 10-13-2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

hey swed i modified it a bit to see if i could get around that a bit more effectively . see if theres any difference

no difference
still ENTER HERE

Worldnet · 10-13-2006, 03:56 PM

I like this! Only one question though. Wouldn't the search engines consider this cloaking since the html source code is hidden on the page?

Xenophage · 10-13-2006, 03:57 PM

This is a very good idea, only think is I have found embedding things in an Iframe often causes a reduction in traffic, not sure if its a browser thing or some other softwre that makes iframes fuck up a percentage of the time or what i noticed this when embedding comus pages in an Iframe. But I like that you are thinking about solutions keep up the good work !

10-13-2006, 04:04 PM

interesting to be honest

DamageX · 10-13-2006, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

This is a very good idea, only think is I have found embedding things in an Iframe often causes a reduction in traffic, not sure if its a browser thing or some other softwre that makes iframes fuck up a percentage of the time or what i noticed this when embedding comus pages in an Iframe. But I like that you are thinking about solutions keep up the good work !

I don't think he mentioned using an iframe as part of the solution.

Splum · 10-13-2006, 04:13 PM

Wouldnt a simple go.php which just does redirecting using the PHP header command work as well?

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum

Wouldnt a simple go.php which just does redirecting using the PHP header command work as well?

no because the zango would pick up the location in the address bar..

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldnet

I like this! Only one question though. Wouldn't the search engines consider this cloaking since the html source code is hidden on the page?

well i suppose it kind of would , but frankly the se's wouldnt be able to track it either..

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

This is a very good idea, only think is I have found embedding things in an Iframe often causes a reduction in traffic, not sure if its a browser thing or some other softwre that makes iframes fuck up a percentage of the time or what i noticed this when embedding comus pages in an Iframe. But I like that you are thinking about solutions keep up the good work !

a full solution would include detection of frames so if the user cant see the page it would go straight thru like normal.. as a meta refresh

Xenophage · 10-13-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

I don't think he mentioned using an iframe as part of the solution.

Ahh you are correct this is what he said

basically what we are doing is setting our sponsor in a frame from an external file that cant be read by zango thus its not "readily" apparent where the hit is going..

So I saw frame, but in reality it is a Script include, might work then hmm..

Xenophage · 10-13-2006, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

a full solution would include detection of frames so if the user cant see the page it would go straight thru like normal.. as a meta refresh

Might also be able to use one of those url rewriters like tinyurl

http://tinyurl.com/ybgawq

actually that wont work the tinyulr but you get he idea anyway

I would like to find a solution for this too as all our google adbuys are affected. Wont work for our type in traffic though

biskoppen · 10-13-2006, 04:54 PM

I'm not 100% sure, but I think a site loaded in a frame or iframe is unable to write a cookie to the clients machine in Internet Explorer... = you will loose alot of sales

RawAlex · 10-13-2006, 04:54 PM

That this stuff is even needed to attempt to keep things working is totally fucked.

RawAlex · 10-13-2006, 04:55 PM

Lars, you are suggesting that Iframe ads might in fact lead to lost clicks?

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

I'm not 100% sure, but I think a site loaded in a frame or iframe is unable to write a cookie to the clients machine in Internet Explorer... = you will loose alot of sales

sponsors that rely purely on cookies to track are rare.. but you do have a very valid point, gotta watch and make sure your getting credit. i

best way is trial and error testing and make sure the solution you use is going to work across the board.. would be silly to lose as many sales as you are gainging by using the method

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Lars, you are suggesting that Iframe ads might in fact lead to lost clicks?

i know they do. i had some threads awhile ago regarding realitycash / adult.com , their entire network wasnt giving you credit if the hit came from a framed page ( i.e. google images that you cant control )

so if someone went to "big sausage pizza" in google images , found an image clicked the linkin the google images frame the affiliate wasnt getting credit.. ( pretty sure this is fixed . )

tical · 10-13-2006, 05:01 PM

im gonna give this a shot in a few

pornguy · 10-13-2006, 05:02 PM

Smokey. Have you made your first billion yet?

s9ann0 · 10-13-2006, 05:03 PM

I'd rather get 40cents an install than try and set that script up!

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

I'd rather get 40cents an install than try and set that script up!

pretty simple cut and paste .... about the same as you would to get the install code for zango.. , and i wouldnt count on zango giving 40 cents an install once they dont have any traffic to snake..

besides that they are tied to cp , so if you want to promote a company that promotes cp , then by all means, but dont say i didnt warn you..

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2006, 05:07 PM

since zango is an installed application, its using like DDE, etc to pick up the URL from the web browser active window....

so couldn't you just pass the URL you want to send the surfer to a php script that sets up frames?

coding at the top of my head:

link on affiliate website:
<a href=FrameMe.php?url=http://www.somesponsorprogram.com/afflink/id=123>click here to get some porn</a>

then FrameMe.php

<frameset rows=1,* border=0>
<frame src=junk.html name=top>
<frame src=<? print $_REQUEST["url"]; ?> name=bottom>
</frameset>

the URL in the location bar will still show the affiliate website but the content will be the intended target.... but then those programs that bust out of frames, will just cause zango to pick up the URL

Fight the brainstorming!

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

since zango is an installed application, its using like DDE, etc to pick up the URL from the web browser active window....

so couldn't you just pass the URL you want to send the surfer to a php script that sets up frames?

coding at the top of my head:

link on affiliate website:
<a href=FrameMe.php?url=http://www.somesponsorprogram.com/afflink/id=123>click here to get some porn</a>

then FrameMe.php

<frameset rows=1,* border=0>
<frame src=junk.html name=top>
<frame src=<? print $_REQUEST["url"]; ?> name=bottom>
</frameset>

the URL in the location bar will still show the affiliate website but the content will be the intended target.... but then those programs that bust out of frames, will just cause zango to pick up the URL

Fight the brainstorming!

thats basically what my script does , but i also went 1 step further becaus ethere are other programs worse than zango.. in your example above.. your going to run into problems trying to send nats affiliate codes thru that becaus eyou will end up with 2 "?'s"
also if there is actual html rewriting going on they are going to detect the url in the frameme.php?url=thisurlcouldberewritten before the user clicks it.. leading the surfer through your script with zango's code on it.

FileCabi · 10-13-2006, 05:17 PM

If there is a way around norton I might just add this, cheers Smokey!

SmokeyTheBear · 10-13-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FileCabi

If there is a way around norton I might just add this, cheers Smokey!

hey are you filecabi of filecabi.net ?

Love the site , visit it all the time..

RawAlex · 10-13-2006, 05:45 PM

smokey, hit me on icq 64-103-248 I have something for you to check.

StarkReality · 10-13-2006, 05:45 PM

You can get the tinyurl effect by just creating a directory, let's call it www.myfhdfghfsite.com/cumfiesta and then do a redirect permanent for /cumfiesta in the .htaccess leading to the sponsor...although I think Zango would catch this one ?!

10-13-2006, 01:41 PM	#1
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Beat ZANGO and others ( for affiliates ) Most of the solutions have been focused on the sponsor level , well i thought i would shift focus and try to see what affiliates could do to solve the problem.. so i threw this little gem together ( any help would be great ) , keep in mind this isnt 100% effective but seems to be a good start anyways WARNING this is a BETA example. use at your own risk. not all sponsors may allow being promoted using this method tested on zango make a blank php file called go.php this is where you will send your traffic in this page simply put this <script src=stb.php?stb.js></script> now make a page called stb.php in the same directory and put this inside it --------------------------- <?php $ra = array("http://www.streetblowjobs.com", "http://www.cumfiesta.com"); srand(time()); $sizeof = count($ra); $random = (rand()%$sizeof); $top = ("$ra[$random]"); if ( eregi ( "yourdomain.com", $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'] ) ) { // do nothing } else { $top = "http://google.com"; } ?> var blank=" ";function fill() {parent.main.location.href='<?php echo $top; ?>';} document.write('<frameset rows="100%,*" border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 onload=fill();>'); document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="main" SCROLLING="AUTO">'); document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="hidden" SCROLLING=no>'); document.write("<\/FRAMESET>"); -------------------------- tested on zango.. basically what we are doing is setting our sponsor in a frame from an external file that cant be read by zango thus its not "readily" apparent where the hit is going.. p.s. in the example im using random links as the target heres an example in action http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 01:44 PM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	im gonna test it out myself a bit and see if it works ill keep everyone updated.. if anyone else who runs alor of traffic wants to test it by all means d so and let us know how it goes. if you need help customizing it let me know __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 01:45 PM	#3
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10-13-2006, 01:46 PM	#4
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	p..s if your lost in how you would use this , basically instead of linking a streetblowjobs banner to streetblowjobs, you would link it to the go.php and it would show the same site. only hopefully most ref code rewriters wont be able to scoop the sale __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 01:53 PM	#5
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	currently if you went to the links without using my method and the surfer had zango installed they would see ads for AFF and CAMS.com on top of the browser __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 01:57 PM	#6
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10-13-2006, 02:00 PM	#8
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Wouldnt modern bowsers see that as a 3rd party cookie and not set it with normal security settings?

10-13-2006, 02:01 PM	#10
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	keep in mind its just a demo . in a working version you would add some code so if the user couldnt visit the site in frames or has java disabled it would just forward using meta refresh or something __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 02:02 PM	#12
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10-13-2006, 02:08 PM	#15
Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE North Coast Pimp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 304-534-757 Posts: 9,395	thanks for the help......

10-13-2006, 02:12 PM	#17
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10-13-2006, 02:16 PM	#19
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	so for anyone wanting to test this . you should add a basic html link to the first go.php file so it should contain this <script src=stb.php?stb.js></script> <body><center><br><a href=http://sponsorlink.com>ENTER HERE</a> the link would only show up to users who cant view frames or apparantly those with nortons __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 02:33 PM	#24
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	hey swed i modified it a bit to see if i could get around that a bit more effectively . see if theres any difference __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-13-2006, 03:56 PM	#26
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	I like this! Only one question though. Wouldn't the search engines consider this cloaking since the html source code is hidden on the page?

10-13-2006, 03:57 PM	#27
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	This is a very good idea, only think is I have found embedding things in an Iframe often causes a reduction in traffic, not sure if its a browser thing or some other softwre that makes iframes fuck up a percentage of the time or what i noticed this when embedding comus pages in an Iframe. But I like that you are thinking about solutions keep up the good work !

10-13-2006, 04:04 PM	#28
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	interesting to be honest

10-13-2006, 04:13 PM	#30
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Wouldnt a simple go.php which just does redirecting using the PHP header command work as well?

10-13-2006, 04:54 PM	#36
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10-13-2006, 04:54 PM	#37
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	That this stuff is even needed to attempt to keep things working is totally fucked.

10-13-2006, 04:55 PM	#38
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Lars, you are suggesting that Iframe ads might in fact lead to lost clicks?

10-13-2006, 05:01 PM	#41
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10-13-2006, 05:02 PM	#42
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10-13-2006, 05:03 PM	#43
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	I'd rather get 40cents an install than try and set that script up!

10-13-2006, 05:07 PM	#45
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	since zango is an installed application, its using like DDE, etc to pick up the URL from the web browser active window.... so couldn't you just pass the URL you want to send the surfer to a php script that sets up frames? coding at the top of my head: link on affiliate website: <a href=FrameMe.php?url=http://www.somesponsorprogram.com/afflink/id=123>click here to get some porn</a> then FrameMe.php <frameset rows=1,* border=0> <frame src=junk.html name=top> <frame src=<? print $_REQUEST["url"]; ?> name=bottom> </frameset> the URL in the location bar will still show the affiliate website but the content will be the intended target.... but then those programs that bust out of frames, will just cause zango to pick up the URL Fight the brainstorming! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-13-2006, 05:17 PM	#47
FileCabi Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	If there is a way around norton I might just add this, cheers Smokey!

10-13-2006, 05:45 PM	#49
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	smokey, hit me on icq 64-103-248 I have something for you to check.

10-13-2006, 05:45 PM	#50
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	You can get the tinyurl effect by just creating a directory, let's call it www.myfhdfghfsite.com/cumfiesta and then do a redirect permanent for /cumfiesta in the .htaccess leading to the sponsor...although I think Zango would catch this one ?!