**** How Island Dollars fucked me over? Are you next? **** - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

Tom_PM · 01-23-2007, 10:57 AM

Judge Judy always says that when one party remembers what happened, and the other doesnt remember one way or the other, the one who remembers is correct.

Aneros Josh · 01-23-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimo

I bet its a tranny

That's kinda the way I was leaning but either way, it sounds like a lot of hype around this girl and it's making me curious as to what is so great about her...

TurboAngel · 01-23-2007, 11:15 AM

Wow this is crazzzzy

OzMan · 01-23-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

I feel awful about the entire situation Dallas, on a personal level. I've always valued your friendship and am sincere in says I don't want you to feel or think you are getting fucked over. Looking at the entire post and how things played out I was in the wrong. Lets talk.

Well that was clear as mud.

So you feel bad about DWB being upset but you don't think you have done anything wrong on a business level?

You don't want him to feel or think he is getting fucked over...even if he is?
Use better lube next time.

What exactly are you admitting you are "in the wrong" about? How this thread went or what happened with the model? Please clarify.

Since you are vaguely admitting some wrong doing, it's only a small step to spell it out clearly what you think you did wrong and from there another small step to apologize and attempt to move on. The clock is ticking.

Tempest · 01-23-2007, 12:11 PM

You could never convince me that you could "forget" a conversation and discussion about a model and site in development that you then turned about and hired and started developing yourself.. Not unless you got so drunk that night you destroyed a bunch of brain cells and/or you're a moron to begin with.

Star 69 · 01-23-2007, 12:43 PM

here is my bump

Persignup Qon · 01-23-2007, 12:48 PM

what the chick LOOKS like is really not at issue.... she could be butt ass ugly, its the principle of the thing. just cuz u CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.

Doctor Dre · 01-23-2007, 12:52 PM

I can't beleive Marty is still comming off with theses arrogants politican answers. You guys are doing a career suicide in this thread.

RawAlex · 01-23-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

what the chick LOOKS like is really not at issue.... she could be butt ass ugly, its the principle of the thing. just cuz u CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.

This is the online porn business. Lars was FORCED to use Zango. Some sponsors apparently are forced to support spammers and scammers. Some people see no point low enough in the road that they can't dig a little deeper.

My old friend Nick@Ilynx has some really good opinions about morals and business. Maybe he will drop by and grace this thread with a few. Safe to say the people with the most money cna afford to have the least morals, I guess.

AsianDivaWeb: Dude, I don't see you will a horse in this race. You seem to be taking advantage of the island dollar dude while he is on the ground to kick him and try to get yourself ahead. If you ever actually had an affiliate program, perhaps there would be a reason. Maybe you should just go back to spamming newsgroups or something.

Jim_Gunn · 01-23-2007, 12:54 PM

I think that the lesson here is that when you find a hot new model that is important enough to you to make a whole solo site or a movie series around, you gotta shoot her as much as you need right away and get the product out asap. If she is that hot, why wait? Some other producers are always going to come along with their own agenda for your new discovery whether they are your friend, an acquaintance or a complete stranger.

Violetta · 01-23-2007, 12:56 PM

It sucks to be fucked over like that. Not the worst crime, but still hard to swallow. Some people: biz > friends

BUUUUUUUUUUTTT:
Somebody just post a picture of this bitch you are fighting over!

Persignup Qon · 01-23-2007, 01:00 PM

so we should just accept this as the bizness of people who lack morals and common respect for one another? i think thats bullshit... there's no way i'd do someone like this.... not a friend, not a stranger... then have the balls to go their face and say "hey, i'm fuckin ya... do you need some help bending over?" - i just don't get that....

if there's no room in this biz for honesty and integrity, i need to find a new occupation

RawAlex · 01-23-2007, 01:13 PM

Qon, that started back at the very start. This business has always been about how much you can put over on the other guy, how much can be shaved off the affiliates and the totally smirk of laughter at the end when a program can buy peice with a beer, dinner, or a bottle of something for christmas.

Goes all the way back to the very start... There are people here who will remember Xpics raising payouts and the shave rate side by side... the rate of pay would go up 20%, and the shave would go up 30%. In the end, they were paying insane amounts of money per unqiue (like 18 to 20 cents) but the shave was so high that it was almost like the affiliates owed them money at the end of the week.

It hasn't gotten any better since.

I am not condoning the acts, just telling it like it is. IMHO, it isn't the nicest thing done, but we aren't talking about a piece of meat here, but a model, and a model who apparently didn't feel any commitment towards the first one in the door.

CybermedAndy · 01-23-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Between the icq's with Dallas and our first drama thread I will try to be factual and cover the issues.

Dallas and I have been speaking about this for days, and the issue did not occur last night. I originally contacted Dallas on Jan 18th, the second when I thought there might possibly be an issue.

The model in question has done work with a few other producers, and already has content up on websites and available on mainstream adult DVDs. The model has a completely unique and amazing look than anything produced with her before.

Once the model casually mentioned that she had shot a 'few' photo sets with Dallas, I contacted Dallas immediately to speak with him about it. I wanted to know what 'a few' meant and what his intentions were with the content. If it was a small amount, then possibly purchsing the content and licensing other content he might have shot with the model that is available elsewhere. Once any issues arise with ANYTHING in our business they are dealt with them immediately.

When I spoke with Dallas, he was upset and said that he was developing an entire site around the same model. He mentioned that we had spoke about the concept early last year for that style of site and that it was HIS. We have spoken about many ideas and concepts, to base a memory off of a last night drinking and brainstorming in Thailand is not in the best interest of anyone. I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.

The main issue comes from Dallas feeling as though it was intentional. Simply put, it is not worth our time, money or energy to spend thousands and thousands to purposely produce a concept or site that someone is already doing.

What a massive pile of steaming bullshit spin. Guys like you who spin shit like lawyers deserve no respect

Juilan · 01-23-2007, 02:36 PM

I keep thinking about prized talent in other entertainment based businesses: pro sports, high fashion modeling, the pop music industry... feirce battles over hot new recruits happen in those arenas all the time.

DWB, Seeing that an exclusive contract was not enforceable in Thailand, was there any agreement/promise made between the model and yourself that she was exclusive with you from the get go. I know you can't entirely trust models to keep there word, but she bears the responsibility of breaking her loyalty to you if that was the case.

Really hope you guys can compromise and work this out in the end.

L-Pink · 01-23-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Well, from this thread it sure appears that you did. Why would you try to buy off DWB if you felt that you had done nothing wrong? An even more baldface lie was your initial claim to not even know he was working with the same model (see your second post in this thread).

What agenda do I have? I am neither a Sponsor or an Affiliate. I am 100% independent. I have nothing to gain no matter how this issue goes.

I don't shoot illegally in 3rd world countries, I pay top dollar to legally shoot Asian girls in the U.S. It's a different niche, because my models don't look all 3rd world like yours.

If you can state honestly that Joon is only 18, and that you do not fake fan signs, then I owe you an apology, otherwise I stand by all of my comments in this thread.

I am the least of your concerns right now. See if you can focus on the real issues...

ADG Webmaster

Worth reading twice

teg0 · 01-23-2007, 03:06 PM

Thats a shame. I'm glad the models my company is working with are on contract to work with us exclusively.

Agent 488 · 01-23-2007, 03:08 PM

sucks when stand up top notch guys who bought you a drink turn out not to be so - never happens around here ...

VexXxed · 01-23-2007, 03:18 PM

Nude thai model content ransom is fucked!

_Richard_ · 01-23-2007, 03:37 PM

what i don't understand is:

How did islandcash know to talk to DWB about buying/selling/deal over this model? They claim it's an honest mistake that they weren't aware, or "forgot", yet no one has pointed out or given a reason to why they knew to talk to DWB about this..

R

DWB · 01-23-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

marty, u knew what DWB had planned and u snaked him.... its plain & simple especially for those of us who live in thailand. u can find all kinds of ways to make it sound like this is just a misunderstanding but we all know better... don't let other dirt come out by not putting this to bed

Thanks Qon.

Qon was there, and was part of that discussion that night. Looks like he remembers just fine.

DWB · 01-23-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

haven't read it all...but my heart goes out.
You got fucked, professionally and personally.

But its starting to look like there may be a way out. Be careful about letting pride take over.
Would you rather be right? or would you rather be happy?

I really hope this is resolved in a way that you remain happy. Good luck.

Hal, you are always a voice of reason.

Marty wants to make a financial solution to this and quickly sweep it under the rug. In order to do so, I need to feel in my heart that he will not do this again to me, before I can even think about trusting another word out of his mouth. I tried very hard in private to deal with this but failed and had to choice other than to come forward and go public.

If I let him off the hook on this, he may fuck me again or some of our other friends over there. People in the past rolled over and let him do this to them, I am not one of those people. And yes, it does require negative energy to continue this, and negative energy is something I do not like to surround myself with, but I feel I need to stay the course on this one and do what is right for not only me, but for the people before me, and the ones after.

Also, we all live in a small city there. We see each other all the time. This has to be set right for the living environment of all of the group of guys over there or it's going to cause a lot of waves.

Persignup Qon · 01-23-2007, 10:42 PM

is it a wrap now? whats the resolution?

DaddyHalbucks · 01-23-2007, 10:59 PM

I do feel sorry for you that you lost money, but from a cursory reading , it sounds like you had no contractual relationship to exclude the unpleasant result.

So, you were too trusting (and a little sloppy, if I can be frank).

Next time, get a tighter contract, or get a contract, period.

baddog · 01-23-2007, 11:09 PM

yeah . . that is why I keep things secret until it is too developed for someone to try and scoop me.

baddog · 01-23-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

I do feel sorry for you that you lost money, but from a cursory reading , it sounds like you had no contractual relationship to exclude the unpleasant result.

So, you were too trusting (and a little sloppy, if I can be frank).

Next time, get a tighter contract, or get a contract, period.

ummm, contract with who? A Thai hooker? That sounds binding.

baddog · 01-23-2007, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyldworx

mouthpiece, mouthpiece, where is the boss!

you really should quit and just start over.

Major (Tom) · 01-23-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

so we should just accept this as the bizness of people who lack morals and common respect for one another? i think thats bullshit... there's no way i'd do someone like this.... not a friend, not a stranger... then have the balls to go their face and say "hey, i'm fuckin ya... do you need some help bending over?" - i just don't get that....

if there's no room in this biz for honesty and integrity, i need to find a new occupation

Same shit happened to me (by someone else). Sometimes people imitate what they cant do themselves. I actually laugh at it now because i see how pathetic this person and his program is. I recall me telling him all my ideas after being forewarned mind you by 3-4 others. And, to top it off, I remember sitting in another webmasters basement and this guy trying to talk me out of opening a program. What can you do besides take it on the chin and laugh.
Duke

DWB · 01-23-2007, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

I do feel sorry for you that you lost money, but from a cursory reading , it sounds like you had no contractual relationship to exclude the unpleasant result.

So, you were too trusting (and a little sloppy, if I can be frank).

Next time, get a tighter contract, or get a contract, period.

Nobody is going to honor a contract in Thailand, with a model making porn, where it is illegal to shoot porn.

Hey, it happens, I understand that... but not by someone on the inside. That's fucked up.

DWB · 01-23-2007, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Persignup Qon

is it a wrap now? whats the resolution?

No wrap. Until he wants to come clean and admit it, there will not be a solution. Because if he can't at least admit to me that he fucked me, I'm not going to be able to trust him to even begin to work on a solution.

thebossxxx · 01-24-2007, 02:12 AM

Hey if Marty (I know I dont know you at all) but if Marty does sincerely apologize and truly works out a fair deal with DWB I think he can earn some respect back from many of us.

I know this is really none of my fucking, business and I am only giving my honest opinioon here but:

Marty, I promise you (not that you care, i have no asian traffic) But honestly I will be one of the first people that posts I respect you for owning up and improving a bad situation & making a positive out of a negative...

Many people are forgiving.. No disrespect on this topic at all!

All you have to say is sorry and not like, "The Fonz on Happy Days" sssssssssooorrrryyyyy'ssss...lol

and then work things out with DWB fairly by compensating him then and only then, all parties can move on at least, in some sort of positive fashion....

Marty, If you don't it will be very difficult recouping your reputation with other webmasters, IMHO.... and make it extremely difficult in building, future relationships in this fiercly, competitive business..

Truly Yours,

Thebossxxx

J$tyle$ · 01-24-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

No wrap. Until he wants to come clean and admit it, there will not be a solution. Because if he can't at least admit to me that he fucked me, I'm not going to be able to trust him to even begin to work on a solution.

DWB - I'm sorry to hear this shit! We may have only had relatively limited communication BUT I only know you as an honorable person - so if you say this is the way it went down - Sounds like you got fucked.

I know it won't really make you feel any better or resolve any of this conflict but look at this GIF below and *SMILE*

You too Qon

I hope this gets resolved soon for you brotha!

Hit me up if and when you come to LA anytime soon.

I owe you lunch, drinks or???

Shoehorn! · 01-24-2007, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

That is a beautiful thing.

DWB · 01-24-2007, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

DWB - I'm sorry to hear this shit! We may have only had relatively limited communication BUT I only know you as an honorable person - so if you say this is the way it went down - Sounds like you got fucked.

I know it won't really make you feel any better or resolve any of this conflict but look at this GIF below and *SMILE*

You too Qon

I hope this gets resolved soon for you brotha!

Hit me up if and when you come to LA anytime soon.

I owe you lunch, drinks or???

You just made this thread!!! That is HAWT!!!

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.

I hope all of that worked out for you. Believe me, I know it was a handful.

DWB · 01-24-2007, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Hit me up if and when you come to LA anytime soon.

I owe you lunch, drinks or ???
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Yea man, last time my schedule was insane and you and I touched base right before I was leaving. It will be several months before I get back out, but I already made notes to let you know when I got back in town.

Wagerboy · 01-24-2007, 05:18 AM

Cant you sell off her sets? Sell them dirt cheap and like 5000 copies

(If you can)

DWB · 01-24-2007, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy

Cant you sell off her sets? Sell them dirt cheap and like 5000 copies

(If you can)

You know, I never thought about that but if they open the site, that just may be exactly what I would do.

Thanks for the idea!

cams2chat · 01-24-2007, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Right, but a contract in Thailand (with a model) is not worth paper to wipe your ass with.

I live in Thailand and we have model contracts in Thai and English to satisfy 2257 needs.... but, a model contract cant be produced here for obvious reasons.

Dont know the players in this but those of us in Asia normally respect each others business. I dont blame the girl but the guy who came in under you is just plain wrong.

DWB · 01-24-2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cams2chat

I live in Thailand and we have model contracts in Thai and English to satisfy 2257 needs.... but, a model contract cant be produced here for obvious reasons.

Dont know the players in this but those of us in Asia normally respect each others business. I dont blame the girl but the guy who came in under you is just plain wrong.

Amen.

I have model releases, but as far as a "contract" for exclusive work... you and I both know that is not gonna fly over there.

And you are dead on the money about how those of us working there try to respect each others business. Not the type of place to make an enemy, that's for sure.

Nicky · 01-24-2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

He mentioned that we had spoke about the concept early last year for that style of site and that it was HIS. We have spoken about many ideas and concepts, to base a memory off of a last night drinking and brainstorming in Thailand is not in the best interest of anyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

It was mentioned before the start of this thread. Hell, I even went on to say put up the site first to see if it the goldmine we envisioned.

This pretty much sums it up for me....

DarkJedi · 01-24-2007, 07:07 AM

anyone got the pics of the model in question?

Phil · 01-24-2007, 07:11 AM

is this the same people that push that new Indian model site?

DWB · 01-24-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

is this the same people that push that new Indian model site?

Yea, that's the one.

Wagerboy · 01-24-2007, 08:58 AM

DWB- Post a pic of this girl...Im sure everyone is dying to know what she looks like. Then we can all say shes gross...might not help, but it will be at least funny as hell...

cpt. insaino · 01-24-2007, 09:00 AM

bump bump bump

xNetworx · 01-24-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Island Dollars not trustworthy?

That's almost like saying you don't think Joon Mali is 18 - or that they type in different info on fake fan signs...

ADG Webmaster

Goddamn she is ugly. Never understood the hype. Looks like any average asian chick I went to high school with in Chicago. Meh

Wagerboy · 01-24-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Goddamn she is ugly. Never understood the hype. Looks like any average asian chick I went to high school with in Chicago. Meh

I agree...Her face looks like a sewer cap with eyes and lips.

MartiniGirl · 01-24-2007, 09:22 AM

There are a lot of shit people around!

Especially when you talk about business and money...

I think it`s better to do not tell about your projets and plans to anyone untill it`s coming true. And as the Shemp told it`s better to consider as life experience...

gimo33 · 01-24-2007, 03:00 PM

almost page 5 and still no pics...

germ · 01-24-2007, 03:18 PM

200 pissed off dirty white boys from kentucky.

01-23-2007, 10:57 AM	#151
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Judge Judy always says that when one party remembers what happened, and the other doesnt remember one way or the other, the one who remembers is correct. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

01-23-2007, 12:43 PM	#156
Star 69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 8,602	here is my bump __________________ e-mail star69

01-23-2007, 12:48 PM	#157
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	what the chick LOOKS like is really not at issue.... she could be butt ass ugly, its the principle of the thing. just cuz u CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!

01-23-2007, 12:56 PM	#161
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	It sucks to be fucked over like that. Not the worst crime, but still hard to swallow. Some people: biz > friends BUUUUUUUUUUTTT: Somebody just post a picture of this bitch you are fighting over! __________________ M&A Queen

01-23-2007, 01:00 PM	#162
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	so we should just accept this as the bizness of people who lack morals and common respect for one another? i think thats bullshit... there's no way i'd do someone like this.... not a friend, not a stranger... then have the balls to go their face and say "hey, i'm fuckin ya... do you need some help bending over?" - i just don't get that.... if there's no room in this biz for honesty and integrity, i need to find a new occupation __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!

01-23-2007, 11:15 AM	#153
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Wow this is crazzzzy

01-23-2007, 12:11 PM	#155
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	You could never convince me that you could "forget" a conversation and discussion about a model and site in development that you then turned about and hired and started developing yourself.. Not unless you got so drunk that night you destroyed a bunch of brain cells and/or you're a moron to begin with.

01-23-2007, 12:54 PM	#160
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I think that the lesson here is that when you find a hot new model that is important enough to you to make a whole solo site or a movie series around, you gotta shoot her as much as you need right away and get the product out asap. If she is that hot, why wait? Some other producers are always going to come along with their own agenda for your new discovery whether they are your friend, an acquaintance or a complete stranger.

01-23-2007, 01:13 PM	#163
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Qon, that started back at the very start. This business has always been about how much you can put over on the other guy, how much can be shaved off the affiliates and the totally smirk of laughter at the end when a program can buy peice with a beer, dinner, or a bottle of something for christmas. Goes all the way back to the very start... There are people here who will remember Xpics raising payouts and the shave rate side by side... the rate of pay would go up 20%, and the shave would go up 30%. In the end, they were paying insane amounts of money per unqiue (like 18 to 20 cents) but the shave was so high that it was almost like the affiliates owed them money at the end of the week. It hasn't gotten any better since. I am not condoning the acts, just telling it like it is. IMHO, it isn't the nicest thing done, but we aren't talking about a piece of meat here, but a model, and a model who apparently didn't feel any commitment towards the first one in the door.

01-23-2007, 02:36 PM	#165
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	I keep thinking about prized talent in other entertainment based businesses: pro sports, high fashion modeling, the pop music industry... feirce battles over hot new recruits happen in those arenas all the time. DWB, Seeing that an exclusive contract was not enforceable in Thailand, was there any agreement/promise made between the model and yourself that she was exclusive with you from the get go. I know you can't entirely trust models to keep there word, but she bears the responsibility of breaking her loyalty to you if that was the case. Really hope you guys can compromise and work this out in the end. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

01-23-2007, 03:06 PM	#167
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,202	Thats a shame. I'm glad the models my company is working with are on contract to work with us exclusively.

01-23-2007, 03:08 PM	#168
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	sucks when stand up top notch guys who bought you a drink turn out not to be so - never happens around here ...

01-23-2007, 03:18 PM	#169
VexXxed Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: What Bitch? Posts: 544	Nude thai model content ransom is fucked! __________________

01-23-2007, 03:37 PM	#170
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	what i don't understand is: How did islandcash know to talk to DWB about buying/selling/deal over this model? They claim it's an honest mistake that they weren't aware, or "forgot", yet no one has pointed out or given a reason to why they knew to talk to DWB about this.. R

01-23-2007, 10:42 PM	#173
Persignup Qon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: HeLL Posts: 853	is it a wrap now? whats the resolution? __________________ OnProbation.com \| PerSignup.com - Now Paying PPS and RevShare! {{ Portfolio: TKME \| AC \| BGDINT \| ESP - More Here... }} If You Really Get Paid in Adult, You Should Be Getting Paid By Us!

01-23-2007, 10:59 PM	#174
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	I do feel sorry for you that you lost money, but from a cursory reading , it sounds like you had no contractual relationship to exclude the unpleasant result. So, you were too trusting (and a little sloppy, if I can be frank). Next time, get a tighter contract, or get a contract, period. __________________ Boner Money

01-23-2007, 11:09 PM	#175
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	yeah . . that is why I keep things secret until it is too developed for someone to try and scoop me.

01-24-2007, 02:12 AM	#181
thebossxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,209	Hey if Marty (I know I dont know you at all) but if Marty does sincerely apologize and truly works out a fair deal with DWB I think he can earn some respect back from many of us. I know this is really none of my fucking, business and I am only giving my honest opinioon here but: Marty, I promise you (not that you care, i have no asian traffic) But honestly I will be one of the first people that posts I respect you for owning up and improving a bad situation & making a positive out of a negative... Many people are forgiving.. No disrespect on this topic at all! All you have to say is sorry and not like, "The Fonz on Happy Days" sssssssssooorrrryyyyy'ssss...lol and then work things out with DWB fairly by compensating him then and only then, all parties can move on at least, in some sort of positive fashion.... Marty, If you don't it will be very difficult recouping your reputation with other webmasters, IMHO.... and make it extremely difficult in building, future relationships in this fiercly, competitive business.. Truly Yours, Thebossxxx __________________ www.IncredibleDollars.com $50 PPS w/Trials 60% Rev Share 60% w/no Pre checked cross sales! & and If pre checks are crossed you get $50 bucks! www.IncredibePass.com www.TitsandAssPass.com 100% Exclusive content guarenteed! Glenn at Incredible dollars dot com Our Best Converting sites: BTCA, Hot60Plus HairyNaturalGirls Sororitysistas, Sweetyurizan, Bbwdepot Blackbootyinvasion AriaValentino BigBoobsfatBooty UnivesrityBubbleButts Momsacheater Arabstreethookers whitecicksinblackchicks AsianchicksAmericanDicks Last edited by thebossxxx; 01-24-2007 at 02:13 AM..*

01-24-2007, 05:18 AM	#186
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01-24-2007, 07:07 AM	#191
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01-24-2007, 08:58 AM	#194
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01-24-2007, 09:22 AM	#198
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01-24-2007, 03:00 PM	#199
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01-24-2007, 03:18 PM	#200
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