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So I'm looking to get a new laptop soon and I'm not quite sure what I want. Basically I need it to be able to handle tons of large applications open at once like photoshop, Reason etc. I want to do my graphics stuff on it, aswell as my music production & handle my normal business type stuff. I heard the macs are the greatest for this, but I dunno, Im just not really that into them. So I'm looking at either getting a macbook, Dell XPS, or a Ferrari 3000. What do you use, and recommend?

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Deej

Im on a dell...i havent had an application issue yet and i stack those fuckers up...

i had a screencap somewhere...

i had PS CS2, fireworks, flash, winamp, 12 firefox windows with how many tabs i dont know, 5 IE windows, 3 notepads, ftp client, image viewer, 5 folders, 18 ICQ windows and im sure a couple more apps running all at once...

no problem...

running a Dell 9100, not the best, but damn good as is

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KrisKross

Oh man... you're so incredibly funny for calling PCs "the other shit".

I'm dying laughing.

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Digipimp

macbook pro, the only way to go

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KILL_FRENZY

If you need a laptop for music production and design then buy a mac from what i've seen all great designers are useing mac , and for music the best computer for live music is mac

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Linguist

yup, know several people who went from windows exclusively to mac for live gigs

psili

Personally, don't dig macs so take the following as biased:

Re: Mac users

Some quotes from bash.org:

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bobby666

i use macbook + imac 20"

xp + vista is for loosers still available, i hear.....

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macmark

It's not the same as it used to be. You can use photoshop and do music production just as well on PC as you can a mac.

Goodings Media

Well as well as the creative side of things, Macs have a much more intuitive and stable interface.

And as for multitasking.....

Im on an oldish G4 Powerbook (1.5ghz powerpc cpu....the old ones) with 1.5gb ram.

Ive got Photoshop CS2 open, 6 dreamweaver windows, itunes (visualization runs fine too) about 10 FF winows, and all my instant messaging windows (msn and iChat[ICQ]) and then a good few notepads and entourage (MS outlook).

Still running smooth and fine... and thats with 5 users connected to my shared iTunes folder and a few downloads running in the bg.

I can't even imagine the power when I get my new 20" iMac

Macs aren't just for artists.

You gotta ask yourself, do you buy a ready made car that works as soon as it's delivered, and if (and unlikely) anything goes wrong, its fixed instantly by professionals for cheap.

Or do you buy parts for a car, it's gonna need tweaking constantly or it'll break, it'll need regular replacements and repairs and it'll break down often.

The only reason Mac users appear arrogant is because we get frustrated with the blind ignorance of windows users.

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stickyfingerz

Never was. Ive been doing music production and recording on a pc since 99 or 2000.

Blingbaby

Bullshit. You're so stuck in 1988 it's not even funny..

candyflip

I have a Macbook and a G4 Desktop as well as an HP desktop and lappy.

I swing both ways.

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candyflip

Of course, you can...but Final Cut and Logic Pro can't be touched by the Windows based alternatives.

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psili

What's funny is mac users usually fall into certain categories. To name two: The sheep and an actual power user who is too lazy to buy a PC, install a linux os and get their shit done.

You were quoting the former :

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Goodings Media

Bullshit? hahaha

okay mate...lemme guess. The guy in the store talked you into buying a PC and now your pissed off because 3 months down the line it's out of date and can't handle shit because it's had more virus's than Paris Hilton's Pussy?

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Kevin Marx

I use both.. Have a Dell XPS a Powerbook G4 and a quad core Mac desktop... I prefer my Macs, but you can't get completely away from PC world.

For my production side I use my Macs almost exclusively.. Photoshop, Final Cut, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, etc.

PC is used for PC only programs... not many of them.. but a few. ACDSee, Quicken, Quickbooks, mIRC, ICQ, Windows Media Player 11 (Mac is only up to 9)... so it just depends.

I would recommend the Mac.. but you will be safe either way.

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Pleasurepays

haha..
every market has alternative products to the market leader. those products are bought by the average non-conformist nut jobs so they can continue believing that they "get it".. and others don't. you don't appear arrogant because you got a Mac... you are arrogant and needed a Mac.

Dvae

I would not take anything too seriously at that site.
Also from that site how to kill yourself like a man haha

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Dvae

You aren't even close on both counts.
As a matter of fact, the real sheep are those who blindly follow Uncle Bill

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Goodings Media

Could a PC do this? (and I don't just mean arrange the windows like this in real time)



Thats a 700mb porno file thats playing fine, while the vizualisation on itunes is running smooth, while im working on a few pages in dreamweaver and my sites banner in CS2. As well as all the stuff I leave open to work with.

No chat windows open as its 1am and none of my friends are insomniaczs

btw the porns for research purposes....

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JP513

I agree and this is why I have a Mac desktop. Especially for music.

But, when I had to buy a laptop last July, I bought a Sony Vaio because I was concerned that if I ran into networking issues at hotels (I travel a lot), the IT guys at hotels wouldn't know the first thing about helping. I know Macs are generally easier but . . . as it turned out, I did have a slew of networking issues, getting connecting via ethernet at my Jakarta hotel and another problem getting wireless at my Bangkok hotel. It took the IT guys a while to figure it out, so I wonder if it ever would have been resolved on a Mac--or maybe never had a problem in the first place. Who knows?

So now I have my iMac desktop and Vaio laptop for travel.

I am also worried that MacBook Pro would be fussy and not very durable for travel. I don't know whether those concerns are justified or not.

But . . . I do look forward to the day when a MacBook Pro will be the only machine I need. That would be pimpin'.

TheDoc

The Mac is quicker to setup and has just about everything you need. Dell's are pile of shit, (any manufactured PC is trash) you really should buy built PC's from places like PCClub or TigerDirect, at least with these places you can get a real BIOS.

You can customize any PC (from those places) to out perform a Mac. Mac's are expensive, the difference in cost often means a stronger PC. A $3k PC is a bit stronger than a $3k Mac.

The Mac's video is pure amazing, it's fast, clear, clean, it's color is sharp. It takes an expensive video card for a PC and a nice Monitor to hang with a MAC in this category. However, with PC's you have the option of going all out, and that beats out a MAC.

Out of the box, music and video production on a MAC simply owns a PC. A pc and a mac are almost the same, but this makes MAC stand alone.

They both crash, it's rare but both do crash. Both about the same amount.

If you have a PC to use while you learn the MAC then get a MAC. It's a simple learning curve, not all software works the same, and the MAC may not have the software you need or want.

And if you don't like the Mac, sell it, take the $, beef up your PC and be done with it.

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TheDoc

Yeah, and I can render and Blender, talk on Skype and run a different OS at that same time.. What was the question again?

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psili

Look.

I have never said a PC was better than a MAC or a MAC was better than a PC. It's just fucking hardware ( or maybe I had *shrug* ). I was making a comment about the "MAC user", as have many other people over the years.

Threads about apple computers are pretty much the same as threads about circumcision - the only people bitching in the threads are those with apple computers or those who aren't circumcised; why is that?

Furthermore, do owners of apple computers really try and fuck their machines through the firewire port? Cuz' I heard that on many mac boards... apple users banging their hardware via firewire ports. .... Which are pretty tiny, actually.... hummm.....

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JP513

But . . . I hate all these Mac vs PC arguments over what's better. I mean everybody knows Microsoft copied Windows from Apple, but everybody knows MS made great, smart business decisions in growing their business.

I have a strong preference for working in the Macintosh environment, partially because there are Mac-only or Mac-better applications I like to use and partially because I love the features of Mac, but also because it is more intuitive for me and a more aesthetically pleasing OS to look at and work through. But I don't begrudge PC users their preference. I use a PC laptop myself.

The bottom line is, get what you want and know that no matter what you choose, you'll have some plusses and minuses either way. It depends on how each individual like to go about their computing tasks.

Goodings Media

The question was "could a PC do this" and I will PROMISE you that the answer is no

next time read more carefully

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KrisKross

Uh... yes, a PC could do that too. You're not doing anything too intense there.

But nice try.

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testpie

On a semi-related note, I bought myself a PowerMac G3 Blue & White a few weeks ago and am currently doing it up and testing it out. I have to say though, Macs take a lot of getting used to; especially the concept of a program being "forever open" until you click onto Finder, and even then it's probably still running in the Dock.

I'm seriously considering switching to Mac, but my main concern is that my old school Mac can't even sync video to audio correctly on anything from a YouTube video to a downloaded QuickTime movie, which is why I'm hoping the memory upgrade I'm getting will actually allow me to move into the 18th century and see pictures going at the same rate as sound...

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stickyfingerz

umm yes easily. I do more than that on mine everyday. PC not mac

stickyfingerz

Dude you are killing me here. lol What you are doing would barely make my cpu move.

teg0

I switched to a MacBook Pro in February. I constantly have tons of apps open, crunching away at CPU and using up a lot of RAM. The only time it has ever crashed on me was one time I tried to start Windows XP through Parallels. If you're new to the OS X you might feel less productive for a week or so, but then you'll be way more productive than you were in Windows. If you're a *nix person you'll also feel right at home at the command line.

If you can't choose between Mac or PC, and money isn't that much of an issue, there is no reason not to switch to Mac. You'll have both windows and OS X at your fingertips.

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bhutocracy

.. too great.

TSGlider

Love the macs, but in my opinion, in this biz, you're better off working on a machine that is as similar as possible to the machines used by the customers paying your bills.

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Fap

I use a dell xps laptop with ALL the upgrades.
I havent had any problems with it!

bhutocracy

Seriously.. Stop now before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.
Have you already forgotten that Macs had to switch to Intel just last year because they couldn't keep up with PC's? That they were demonstratably slower? (to any reasonable person, not macolytes)
Macs may have referenced 1984 in their advertising but I swear it's their followers that use doublethink.

Both platforms have issues.. it's really a matter of preference. The tool isn't going to help you do anything you couldn't do on either machine.

Personally I'm not really into production line products so I'm not really into macs. I like to be able to make my own system and prefer to research every part rather than blindly following what a company suggests I buy. But they have come a long way in the last 5 years and I did contemplate a MacBookPro went I got a new laptop last year. Just the screen/res were bigger on the highest end PC laptops at the time and in the end I didn't have any real reason to change.

bhutocracy

Yeah I don't know whats going on there. I've got 3 year old machines here that can do that. *shrugs* Maybe he just upgraded from an old imac or something. Man those things sucked.

fuzebox

Loving my new core 2 duo....... which runs Linux

teg0

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bhutocracy

Thanks for your cogent insight. It's a bit hard for me to be wrong on this point though, so stick to posting pictures because there is no way around it

I mean.. I'm replying to a guy that thinks it's the size of the video file he's playing thats slowing things down... not the bitrate.. or the size it's being displayed at lol.
I've also worked on macs longer than most mac users have. I don't really care what the peanut gallery thinks, but this guy seriously needs a reality check, he's embarrassing himself.

JP513

I see the charge icon. Which Mac laptop are you running?