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Old 07-10-2007, 07:46 PM   #251
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:49 PM   #252
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you arrogant yanks have never stopped invading countries

Iraq is going to be one helluva a monumental fuckup - believe that cowboy

1) Iraq already is a monumental fuckup. We're just still in denial mode. Our media is doing everything they can to shelter us from reality, as usual.


2) Isn't your country a part of the Iraq occupation as well? Doesn't that make you guys arrogant as well? (not denying that our extremist religious right is also unbearably arrogant as well as horrifyingly incompetent)
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Israel's army is one of the most technologically advanced in the world. But here is the actual list

According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:08 PM   #254
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How old would you guys guess this "shok" is? 13-14? Or is he actually like college age? Do all conversations on this board turn into childish name calling as soon as a conservative is presented with facts that don't jive with his ideology and that he has no legitimate counter for? How lame.

Sad to say but people like this make me understand where the tyrants of history were coming from with their prison camps and purges. These people just do not use any part of their brain and really will never be a functioning part of a just society.
wow you read adbusters magazine and that is your counter? that somehow makes you an informed person? that is laughable.

shok has been in this business a lot longer than you have so maybe you should stick to hating on your country, because you read "adbusters" magazine and you are informed, mmmaaannn!!!
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How old would you guys guess this "shok" is? 13-14? Or is he actually like college age? Do all conversations on this board turn into childish name calling as soon as a conservative is presented with facts that don't jive with his ideology and that he has no legitimate counter for? How lame.
you promised to put me on ignore!!!

man we have seen your kind come and go a hundred times over, you are nothing new.
You want to know more about me, you can read some here
just blow me resources.com is the url

Other than that, sorry your offended but I will not fall inline with your thought process.

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wow you read adbusters magazine and that is your counter? that somehow makes you an informed person? that is laughable.

shok has been in this business a lot longer than you have so maybe you should stick to hating on your country, because you read "adbusters" magazine and you are informed, mmmaaannn!!!
1) you have no idea how long I've been in this industry. Way longer than Shok I'd bet. My first check from call-girls.net is on my wall right now, $26. Wanna guess what the date is? I'm sure you and your young pal have no fucking clue what call-girls.net was or when it was around.


2) adbusters is not news jackass. It's an art/opinion magazine. That is simply a great list of American military interventions. Go ahead, look up each one on whatever source you consider legitimate in your simple little mind. A bit of education couldn't hurt.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:51 PM   #257
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stickyfingerz i havent been here long and i already know everyone hates you so just stfu.
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How old would you guys guess this "shok" is? 13-14? Or is he actually like college age? Do all conversations on this board turn into childish name calling as soon as a conservative is presented with facts that don't jive with his ideology and that he has no legitimate counter for? How lame.

Sad to say but people like this make me understand where the tyrants of history were coming from with their prison camps and purges. These people just do not use any part of their brain and really will never be a functioning part of a just society.
Moron noob...
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:55 PM   #259
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the people of lebanon love hezbollah, everyone in the middle east loves hezbollah apart from israel.

and to be honest, iran should send more money hezbollah's way, the quicker israel dissapears, the better, not just for lebanon but for world peace
You should go play in fucking traffic anti Semite piece of shit. and NO Im not Jewish.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:13 PM   #260
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:28 PM   #261
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You should go play in fucking traffic anti Semite piece of shit. and NO Im not Jewish.
You might want to lok anti-semite in the dictionary you uneducated fuck, because it deffinatley dosent mean anti-israel.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:33 PM   #262
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:35 PM   #263
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You might want to lok anti-semite in the dictionary you uneducated fuck, because it deffinatley dosent mean anti-israel.
Lol ya I bet thats it. You just hate Israel then.... Are you currently wearing any sort of head wrapping?
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nope, im white and dont have a religion. dont even know the meaning of the words you saying do you? fucking idiot.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:08 AM   #265
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Not really brother bilo, the usa has invaded 73 countries and bombed 23 in the past 50 years

where Iran has only bombed 1 in the past 250 years

true that true that

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Old 07-11-2007, 01:41 AM   #266
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:13 AM   #267
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army is made to protect civilians.
terror is a shortcut to those exactly.
when a few terrorists have the ability to kill thousands of civilians, what good is an army ?
terror is grown in civilian residents which in it also operates in order to protect itself.
it doesn't matter how strong an army is - as long as it presents a civilized party - it will never bombard civilians enough to destroy all terrorists in it.
in reality no one will nuke anyone unless that one will nuke them first. and it won't happen.
that's why I say the strongest army in the world is that of an Islamic terror group. the fact that I can not associate it with a country (as in "the army of Afghanistan or Iran or whatever") tells you more about how undefeatable it is.
they draft from terror sites on the internet, they use democracy and freedom of speech of other countries to state their point of view, they will hit all YOUR soft spots with no mercy.
the only way to stop them is to kill the poverty from which they strive from, turn their countries to regions that fight ingrowing terror.
their strength come from the fact they have nearly nothing to lose.
just my opinion, I think one day someone will understand my point.
I agree with most of what you say but Islamic terror the strongest army ?
can Islamic terror destroy a country ? make it retreat from lands ?
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:57 AM   #268
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FRANCE (HISTORY HOWEVER BEING WHAT IT IS, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE)

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FYI-China has been around for over 4,000 years. I'd say they're getting to the party rather late.
I am considering the time when a country got independence and started getting into party.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:05 AM   #270
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israel is a terrorist state, they are illegally occupieing lebanon so hezbollah have the right to attack them because they are on their land, and when they attack them they get called terrorists....hmmm

Didn't Israel pull out of south Lebanon years ago?

Didn't Hezbollah use this as an opportunity to build bunkers amongst Lebanese villages in south Lebaanon to launch rockets at Israeli civilian populations?

Didn't Hezbollah cross into Israeli territory and kidnap soldiers?
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Yes, a large percentage of their army work for the government by day and then work at night doing tech support for Dell.
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Yes, a large percentage of their army work for the government by day and then work at night doing tech support for Dell.

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My top 5 guess would be:

1. USA (hits: tech, production) (misses: low active duty, politicians)
2. Russia (hits: production, tech, sheer will power) (misses: economy, location)
3. China (hits: production, manpower) (misses: naval, air force, food resources)
4. Israel (hits: tech, training, mandatory service) (misses: productions, resources)
5. North Korea (hits: active duty size, will power) (misses: economy, air force)


FYI: Vietnam was part of the French indo-China empire and we stepped in to stop the spread of communisum. We were fighting not only North Vietnam but a silent China as well. And politicians where afraid esculated military control would bring on WWIII so they capped military ability to fight the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu
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1 United States
2 Russia
3 India
5 Germany
6 France
7 Japan
8 Turkey
9 Brazil
10 Great Britain

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26 Israel ()

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Hmm yeah I was wondering where Turkey was on that list.
As far as I know they have the largest standing army in NATO.

Quick, let's get all those gun carrying muslims inside the European Union!
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I was wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Armed_Forces

Only 2nd largest with a little over 1million soldiers ready to invade.
I wan't 1million muslims to protect our European democracy. Yes, let's get them inside the European Union now!!!
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I surely had some giggles reading some replies here
But honestly, American patriots should just put a cork lid on their asses... i mean, you actually party for having won (in your point of view, even if the whole world thinks of it differently) against countries of lower military levels.
It's like, playing chess against a toddler and boast you're the best at chess after beating him.
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the army of politicians.
Easily beatable by the people.
If only they didnt follow blindly what some ass with a necktie told them.
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Easily beatable by the people.
If only they didnt follow blindly what some ass with a necktie told them.
sheep beats people anytime.
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Also, I thought Germany had a very reduced army ever since they lost WW2, am I wrong here?
Germany actually has the most technologically advanced mobile artillery right now. I can't remember what it is they have, but it beats our howitzers hands down. Probably one of the few things any country will ever have military that is more advanced than something coming out of the U.S. But we spend the most on the air force.
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the heck you say ? well i didn't want ot put iran in this but iran has one of the most advanced technological armies in the middle east and they are on their way up all time, they will soon have strongest power in the middle east.
iran is very progress in many ways more than you might think
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The first Gulf War. We got Iraq out of Kuwait and that was the goal of the war. When was the last war that say Germany won?
1870/71 Germany - France. On January 18th the Prussian king Wilhelm I was acclaimed emperor in Versailles.
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the heck you say ? well i didn't want ot put iran in this but iran has one of the most advanced technological armies in the middle east and they are on their way up all time, they will soon have strongest power in the middle east.
iran is very progress in many ways more than you might think
sure, they use the latest technology stones to kill their men and women.

extremely advanced society.
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Why people bother arguing with Yanks over the state of their country I dont know.

No matter how much evidence you show them to prove they lost the Vietnam war they still prefer to reference films with Clint Eastwood in showing that they didnt.

The only good thing about America is that it is below (both geographically and respect status) Canada.
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I dont think these factors are important for an army any longer. The two best armies of 20th century - USA and Russia - sucked, the first one in Iraq, the second one - in Chechnya. Why? Because the way of fighting has changed radically. No more enemy forces standing in front of you on a battlefield. No more weapons pointed at each other. Nowadays, the potential enemy is everywhere and nowhere (so-called terrorism). That's why armies must change their strategies to deal with it. But they reinforce their weapons and increase the number of solders instead. What for? world has changed, it doesn't work any more.
so, it seems, top 5 positions are vacant.
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I dont think these factors are important for an army any longer. The two best armies of 20th century - USA and Russia - sucked, the first one in Iraq, the second one - in Chechnya. Why? Because the way of fighting has changed radically. No more enemy forces standing in front of you on a battlefield. No more weapons pointed at each other. Nowadays, the potential enemy is everywhere and nowhere (so-called terrorism). That's why armies must change their strategies to deal with it. But they reinforce their weapons and increase the number of solders instead. What for? world has changed, it doesn't work any more.
so, it seems, top 5 positions are vacant.
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I agree with most of what you say but Islamic terror the strongest army ?
can Islamic terror destroy a country ? make it retreat from lands ?
Not terror, but Islamic revolution forced the US out of Iran and the civilized Iranians out of power. I agree though, I don't believe Islamic terror could win a war and conquer anything but for making armies retreat we're probably going to see it in Iraq and depending on how things go in Afghanistan we could see it there too. One major bombing like the US marines in Lebanon would make a lot of nations run scared.


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Germany actually has the most technologically advanced mobile artillery right now. I can't remember what it is they have, but it beats our howitzers hands down. Probably one of the few things any country will ever have military that is more advanced than something coming out of the U.S. But we spend the most on the air force.
And its a damn shame they aren't using that technology to help out in South Afghanistan. I'm sure the German military is pissed at their politicians for this, as are the other countries with military in the secured Northern areas.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:17 AM   #295
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Not terror, but Islamic revolution forced the US out of Iran and the civilized Iranians out of power. I agree though, I don't believe Islamic terror could win a war and conquer anything but for making armies retreat we're probably going to see it in Iraq and depending on how things go in Afghanistan we could see it there too. One major bombing like the US marines in Lebanon would make a lot of nations run scared.




And its a damn shame they aren't using that technology to help out in South Afghanistan. I'm sure the German military is pissed at their politicians for this, as are the other countries with military in the secured Northern areas.

another one who has no idea what his talking about
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:24 AM   #296
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sorry but UK SAS will kick all of yo asses!!!!!

Thats not even including the fact that the UK Army and USA army are the same thing nowadays

I mean, we did have the worlds largest empire....
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Now lets play "who has the biggest dick!"

Boys will be boys....
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:22 PM   #298
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another one who has no idea what his talking about
By all means, enlighten me son.


On another note, any topic titled "5 top strongest armies in the world ?" deserves to be bumped into eternity. One of the funniest titles Ive seen.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:42 PM   #299
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yes and started by a know nothing piece of crap stuck up allah's ass



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