Martin3

I agree, this thread if fucking retarded. Only out come is going to be some one looking like a real douche bag.

Should have waited until there was a lot more proof before outing anyone. Especially considering it was at a hotel. They fuck up charges all the time.

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cranki

good call

Tom_PM

Someones lawyer would probably have to get a judge to ask for the security tapes, as I dont think just going there and asking is going to do anything. They will protect themselves before helping others. Thats the way of it these days.

Dont know why her real name was posted exactly, but it feels wrong. First name would have sufficed probably? Anyway, good luck to everyone.

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hello you scamming shithead !

Dan

Yep quote of the thread here.

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CDSmith

Just a question Mike, but how doy you figure you're doing your program and your reputation any favores with cocky cockin' off smartassy posts like this?

Posting her real name was pretty low, no?

Is she guilty or isn't she? Maybe it's best to find out for sure before the trashing started.

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dumb ass broad.

stev0

Her hotel room was paid for and she didn't even question it...? She knows SHE didn't pay the bill, if she didn't use his card then I'd be willing to bet she knows who did. People don't just steal cards and buy hotel rooms for strangers.

Nicky

I have read this entire thread, gonna be interesting to see the outcome

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She says she used express checkout. If that is the case than no, she would not have known.

I ALWAYS use express checkout when it is available and check my bill when it comes in the mail.

Again, I have no idea who is right and who is wrong. I just think the thread is pretty lame.

Scootermuze

Kinda shows that you're 'skillz' and quite limited...

baddog

If you read I believe you will find that she used the express checkout. The card you have on file when you checked in would be the one charged.

NinjaSteve

Holy shit this is a huge thread.

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Scootermuze

Uhh.. Read her posts..
she used her card and a friend's card that shared the room..
Those are the only cards she was aware of on her bill.. and the bill that the Hard Rock faxed to her.. Wasn't til after she was outa there that the other card issue came up...

Which is why I think it was an employee deal...

Scootermuze

I think Lisa would be willing to agree to it...

The accusers I think would be reluctant..

Just my take on it..

fuzebox

For what it's worth, last time I paid for a hotel room, I just gave them a room number and did not have to verify the name on the room. I'm not sure if that was a special case and they were supposed to, but I just told them it was room xxxx and I'd like to pay cash, and they said sure, it is $xxx thank you have a nice day.

The only conclusion I've been able to draw from this thread is that Smashbucks and Mike Hawk look really bad.

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Peaches

Best post ever in this entire cesspool.

Just an FYI - several years ago Shok and I checked into separate rooms at the same time in Vegas. They put both our rooms on HIS card. His wife was not amused when she got a call about the high usage on his card (mebbe if he didn't have so many Spectravision porn movies.....). Anyhoo, total mistake by the front desk.

2 weeks ago I upgraded to a suite. I was staying 3 nights and they charged me 9 NIGHTS of upgrades.

I would estimate that at least 50% of the time charges are wrong on my hotel bills. Most of the show attendees aren't paying for their bill so they probably don't even look. When you have a hotel filled with people you know, the chances of a mistake reflecting on someone ELSE you know's room bill is going to be high.

JMM

BTW, for the legal geniuses here:

Anyone v. Hard Rock: Not going to happen. They did nothing wrong and rectified the situation immediately.

Caza v. Sparxxx: Won't happen in superior court, doesn't meet the statutory requirements. Could happen in small claims court but proving that there was $1000 in the wallet would be next to impossible. You can't just SAY what you had, you have to prove it.

Sparxxx v. Mike Hawk/Caza: There is a case here, especially if she loses the booble contest. But regardless of whether or not there is a strong case, I would gladly pay for the audio transcript:


Clerk of the Court: Now Hearing Sparxxx vs. Mike Hawk. Is Ms. Sparxxx present in the courtroom? Is Mike Hawk present? Mike Hawk, now calling Mike Hawk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom?

Judge: Clerk, is Mike Hawk here in the courtroom? Have you seen Mike Hawk?

Clerk of the Court: Your honor, I can't seem to find Mike Hawk. I don't know where Mike Hawk is. Have you seen Mike Hawk your honor?

etc, etc, etc, etc. You can finish it yourself, don't make it go more than a few more lines, then it just gets silly.

P.S. You have to read it fast to get the full effect.

Scootermuze

When people can't succeed when hitting high, they hit low..

Brings out the true character of some folks..

cool1

innocent until proven guilty

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Same here, at least 6 out of 10 hotels I stay in, usually have messed up bills, ending with me calling them and discussing the problems. Once I got chared for a weeks stay, and I was only there overnite!

If you got your stuff taken, then the person should pay. but to bring the person's real name on a board like this is way beyond cool....espectly when no one knows for sure!

Just my two cents.

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damn, 10 pages and no conclusion yet.

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Anal Hobbit

Too bad Lisa wasnt Black..

We could be calling Mike Hawk a Racist as well.

Damn...

Anyone know if she is Jewish by any chance?

OMG Jim

No more speculation needed. These guys are on the case which means it should be solved in less than an hour!


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Sheri Santiago

Hotels are ridiculous for charges. Last hotel I booked charged me $130 for the pool bar. I wasn't at the pool the entire time I stayed. When I called the woman on the phone told me the name signed wasn't even close to my name, yet they charged me anyway. I guess they don't bother to check.

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Anal Hobbit

6 out of 10 huh?

Hmmmm..

Anyone else here believe this guy?

jonesonyou

complete rat shit. No one should put up with this.

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Anal Hobbit

Was the woman Black?

lisa sparks

Yea why should I my bill was paid for by my credit cards on file. Point I had this faxed since I checked out of the room and never went to the front desk. This is what they faxed to me last night. My bill was paid..

Scootermuze

Hotel employees know this as well.. and they all aren't mistakes..

There was a show on some years back about how some utility companies pad the bills of big corporations because they know that the customer will just look at the amount owed and write a check...

What secretary is gonna run out and check the meter to verify the amount of electricity used? or water.. or whatever..

If they are confronted.. "Oops.. our fault.. we'll credit it back."
Very seldom are they caught..

I read both sides to this ordeal before I started posting...
Where some started bashing at the first sign of who was being accused..

Lisa didn't do it..

frostyimpressions

Stupid bitch. LOL

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JMM

Sorry, but I believe somewhere on page 3 or 4, these people already claimed jurisdiction:

lisa sparks

Thank you this is exactly what I did.. Most people do this. If there is an error I call later after my receipt has been mailed.

Hotrocket

Seems to me if there isn't a video tape of Lisa herself standing at the check out desk attempting to use that credit card, there is no proof she is involved in any way. Even IF someone staying in her room tried to use the card ...it doesn't mean SHES guilty of anything, or had any knowledge of the event.

Hotels make mistakes..it could have been something as simple as an employee entering the wrong room number..there are a 100 different ways this could have happened.

I would say that Lisa has a very strong case for a defamation suit against Mike Hawk...I hope he has deep pockets because I have a feeling this is going to cost him many times more than $5k...The damage has been done..its too late to say "Sorry I made a mistake".

lisa sparks

Yea and we are all worried about 2257 on top of that. Then we have guys like that *trying to post reals names on a public forum.

Anal Hobbit

Anyhow. I voted for you for booble..

You are my kind of gal..

We need to work together....

Peaches

I usually use express check out too but check the bill on the TV first so I can bitch in person if I see a glaring mistake.

OMG Jim

Yea I think that Big Ed had to call for backup since he was too busy with some shit going down at the Montecito to handle HardRock's shit too!
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Anal Hobbit

Lisa, when you do sue, just for the sake of conversation, do you have any jewish blood or American Indian Blood in you?

Im wondering if this accusation is racial in any way..

All info helps.

Let me know.

ThX.

Anal Hobbit

Lisa, when you do sue, just for the sake of conversation, do you have any jewish blood or American Indian Blood in you?

Im wondering if this accusation is racial in any way..

All info helps.

Let me know.

ThX.

pocketkangaroo

Not sure how prevelant it is now with the net, but employees stealing wallets and attempting to put a charge on a card has been an old trick in the hotel industry for years. They see if the card still works, then go buck wild.

crockett

Not really, even if it wasn't her.. the card was still used to pay for her room. So it is more than reasonable to assume she was involved, until proven otherwise.

Not saying she was, but as they say possession is 9/10th of the law. Being her room was paid for by the card in question, she was temporally in possession of goods paid for by a stolen credit card. So in all reality it's up to her to prove she had nothing to do with it.

If you had a laptop show up at your door from Dell and it turned out it was bought using a stolen credit card. Well you would be suspect number one until it proven otherwise.

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Scootermuze

Although it's possible, in that the card 'may' have been stolen, the police could ask to see the tapes to see if/when a stolen card was used..

I don't know what all the cameras show, but it would at least show the people at the desk.. and show who it wasn't..

JMM

Not likely that damages would exceed the 5k. And that would only be if she lost the booble contest.

Most lawyers will tell you that defamation suits are almost impossible to win. Yes, it is easy to SAY someone defamed you, but proving actual damages, which is what a lawsuit is all about, is VERY difficult.

Tom_PM

Wow is that what a hotel bill looks like in this century? Good god. Used to be you paid for your room. Your ROOM, lmao. Now you pay 2 pages worth of shit that should be included in your stay.. And express paying in advance? Open invitation for charges you never incurred.. 6 in 10 stays with errors sounds perfectly plausible, and damn near criminal too.

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JMM

Actually, that is incorrect. We had a large package sent via UPS disappear a few years ago. I spent some time with UPS loss prevention trying to track it down. What I learned was that when an item is shipped using a stolen credit card, the #1 suspect is not the resident where the item was shipped but someone within a 2 mile radius of that location.

Hotrocket

You may be right..however I would say any reasonable person (see juror) reading this thread would come to the conclusion that her reputation has been damaged, the posts were made with malice and intended to do her harm and that its reasonable to assume that she will lose income due to this as well..beyond the booble contest. I would also submit that the simple action of filing a suit could very well result in an out of court settlement well in excess of the 5k.