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xNetworx · 07-20-2007, 03:02 PM

50 undercover millionaires

GreyWolf · 07-20-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

I need to go see an advisor eventually, but investments in general scare the shit out of me. I know earning the 3% in a sucker savings account is lame, and leaving money on the table, and eventually will plan on doing something after doing a little homework on investing and finding a banker

Always remember to keep that cynical hat on with any "advisor"

Chances are they are potless and could never bank a mill to save their own lives, but armed up with a series of laminated color brochures. I've never let any of these people thru the front door - and that has paid off many times over.

The only thing that can be generally said is, - keep your mind wide open and spend some time on research. That can be very cheap, but have excellent rewards in the time spent doing it. And, no hurry. Also.. only my

- it's interesting and can be an education realizing what has potential

J. Falcon · 07-20-2007, 03:14 PM

congrats, Im happy for you

$5 submissions · 07-20-2007, 03:17 PM

Congrats! Thanks for the inspiring post. This reminds me of Shoemoney's 100K+ Google check or Markus Frind's (Plentyoffish.com)'s massive checks. Keep the good stuff going and congratz on your success, man!

Big Red Machine · 07-20-2007, 03:19 PM

Wow an inspiring thread on GFY
Congrats on your well earned wealth.....and still only 26...SWEET

Cheers
Red

WiredGuy · 07-20-2007, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

I don't know why I forgot to add you to my thank yous.
We have never met before, never spoken before, but you are a huge factor on my success.
As I was lurking gfy a few years back, you stuck out as a young successful guy doing his thing in SEO, and everybody was praising you as being a SEO/SEM GOD, which in turn got me into studying SEO.
I would say I spent 18 months studying, playing around, trial and erroring with search engines before finding a system that worked for me on adult and mainstream.
so, THANK YOU

Wow, that was completely unexpected and I had no idea I had any influence at all. Still, you're the one who did all the work and found a system that works and you're not going crazy spending the cash your making. That's very commendable.
WG

Penthouse Tony · 07-20-2007, 03:25 PM

Congrats. I'm glad we were a part of your success.

Casa Nova · 07-20-2007, 03:30 PM

Congratulations man! Certainly motivates me to work hard, & Im sure it does for everyone else aswell..

BlackCrayon · 07-20-2007, 03:33 PM

Congrats on the achievement. I don't have one mil liquid but if i had to work on galleries for 12-15 hours per day i think i'd blow my head off or have a heart attack. Seemed like a lot of work when i was submitting them.

bausch · 07-20-2007, 03:35 PM

I'm happy for you and admire your hard work and dilligence, but doesn't "getting proxies" mean that you submit under fake nicks etc? I submit as well and the most amount of galleries you could realistically submit a day under your own identity is probably around 5-6 picture galleries or so (more perhaps if you are submitting in completely different niches and therefore a wider variety of sites) and even more if you are also doing vids (because you'll be submitting to even more different sites) and you would be perfectly fine as long as your submit program keeps track of how many submissions each site accepts and how many times you've submitted already, cause there's some sites out there that will accept like 5 gals a day, but once you get to 20, that's a bit too much.

Using proxies is not good I think because you are breaking the tgp rules.
Also, how do you plan on keeping submitting with all this 2257 crap going? (If you're in the U.S)

selena · 07-20-2007, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

I would also like to give props where props are due

HUGE Thank-yous out to:

AdultFriendFinder/OutPersonals
Nastydollars
Bangbros
CECash
Realitycash
Playboy
NaughtyAmerica
PussyCash
FTVCash
JaymanCash

Glad to see Jayman Cash on your list.

We certainly appreciate your traffic and promotional efforts.

Yngwie · 07-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

So you have $1mil in the bank and drive a 1995 Dodge Neon??

Right..................

so just because someone has money they should buy some expensive car to prove that they have $? Why live beyond your needs when you don't have to? In the process you save money and in the end have MUCH more. Sure, he can go buy himself a ferrari or some shit and LOSE money instead of using that wasted money to have MADE more.

BradM · 07-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Congrats, that's very impressive. 1 mil liquid is an incredible amount of savings.

grape · 07-20-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch

I'm happy for you and admire your hard work and dilligence, but doesn't "getting proxies" mean that you submit under fake nicks etc? I submit as well and the most amount of galleries you could realistically submit a day under your own identity is probably around 5-6 picture galleries or so (more perhaps if you are submitting in completely different niches and therefore a wider variety of sites) and even more if you are also doing vids (because you'll be submitting to even more different sites) and you would be perfectly fine as long as your submit program keeps track of how many submissions each site accepts and how many times you've submitted already, cause there's some sites out there that will accept like 5 gals a day, but once you get to 20, that's a bit too much.

Using proxies is not good I think because you are breaking the tgp rules.
Also, how do you plan on keeping submitting with all this 2257 crap going? (If you're in the U.S)

He says he has his own paysite now, so he proably has webmaster making him money.

bausch · 07-20-2007, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grape

He says he has his own paysite now, so he proably has webmaster making him money.

No, he said that his paysite constitutes around 19% of his income, so the majority of money is coming from his own galleries, blogs, tgp's etc I am guessing most come from galleries submitted...

M0nk · 07-20-2007, 04:12 PM

congratulations!!!

maxjohan · 07-20-2007, 04:15 PM

Keep on rocking!

Here's for many more:

Good insperation for sure.

SomeCreep · 07-20-2007, 04:17 PM

Everyone on GFY is a millionaire. No big deal.

m3nyc · 07-20-2007, 04:25 PM

do tell .. what are your sites

GreyWolf · 07-20-2007, 04:28 PM

Mmmm... you nosy people *lol*

It's called work - and less time on chat boards

the alchemist · 07-20-2007, 04:28 PM

Well done and congrats!

F U S I O N · 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM

Congrats and thanks for the motivation!

Farang · 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donborno

Exchange that to Euros ;)

oh shit your sig is sick

m3nyc · 07-20-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

So you have $1mil in the bank and drive a 1995 Dodge Neon??

Right..................

get a new car... you just might get laid again!

bausch · 07-20-2007, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

So you have $1mil in the bank and drive a 1995 Dodge Neon??

Right..................

Actually, I find it EXTREMELY believable. He probably has one mil in the bank BECAUSE he drives a 95 Neon and lives in a crappy place. If he drove a benz and lived in a nice place he probably wouldn't have a mil liquid right now.

Did you know that the owner of Ikea who is worth 23 BILLION drives a 1993 Volvo and is even known to use his bus pass to save money?
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/to...r_kamprad.html

There's this book I read called "Inside The Millionaire Mind" and it reveals the lifestyles of a lot of the millionaires in America who have net worths in the millions.

- It said a lot of them get their shoes RESOLED (have new soles put on their shoes) instead of actually buying new shoe.

- A lot of them reupholster furniture instead of buying new

-They clip coupons to save money.

-Typical millionaire has a net worth of just 3 million and lives in a home valued at under $277,460

tenletters · 07-20-2007, 06:42 PM

keep on keepin on fella

GreyWolf · 07-20-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch

Actually, I find it EXTREMELY believable. He probably has one mil in the bank BECAUSE he drives a 95 Neon and lives in a crappy place. If he drove a benz and lived in a nice place he probably wouldn't have a mil liquid right now.

Did you know that the owner of Ikea who is worth 23 BILLION drives a 1993 Volvo and is even known to use his bus pass to save money?
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/to...r_kamprad.html

Very true!!

Who actually cares what car anyone drives??? Only people who measure a car as being of "value" is when they need, for some strange reason, to help their character deficiencies and get one up on their neighbors/friends. (Apart from "enthusiasts" who can gloat over lumps of metal with four wheels).

Only know two seriously rich people (in the billions range - and not dollar values) - neither cares about cars or "possessing" glitter - they have more relevant stuff to deal with. That's why they are wealthy in the first instance.

Also... being a "millionaire" means little (tho not decrying from layinglow - he did that from little and is holding his mill in liquid form), - that is only half a mill in Sterling or 724K in Euros. A one bedroom flat in the center of London can cost $1 mill (or more depending). There are plenty dollar millionaires around who are millionaires simply by owning their homes - and these homes are not "millionaire style" homes. I sold a house last year, which in dollar value was just under a mill, but that was a fairly average five bed property and sure did not have any millionaire-style features *lol* Everything is relative

dynastoned · 07-20-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

So you have $1mil in the bank and drive a 1995 Dodge Neon??

Right..................

crazy how the first thing out of peoples mouth always is you make all this money what kind of car do you drive? if you aren't driving a benz they look at you like you're dumb. fucking people kill me with that shit every time. they're driving 40-50k cars and wonder why their broke and i got dough.

Alky · 07-20-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch

Actually, I find it EXTREMELY believable. He probably has one mil in the bank BECAUSE he drives a 95 Neon and lives in a crappy place. If he drove a benz and lived in a nice place he probably wouldn't have a mil liquid right now.

Did you know that the owner of Ikea who is worth 23 BILLION drives a 1993 Volvo and is even known to use his bus pass to save money?
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/to...r_kamprad.html

There's this book I read called "Inside The Millionaire Mind" and it reveals the lifestyles of a lot of the millionaires in America who have net worths in the millions.

- It said a lot of them get their shoes RESOLED (have new soles put on their shoes) instead of actually buying new shoe.

- A lot of them reupholster furniture instead of buying new

-They clip coupons to save money.

-Typical millionaire has a net worth of just 3 million and lives in a home valued at under $277,460

I see your multi-millionaire and raise you 4 others who drive bentleys, have tons of new shoes, have someone shop for them, and live in homes valued at 800k+.

xNetworx · 07-20-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bausch

Actually, I find it EXTREMELY believable. He probably has one mil in the bank BECAUSE he drives a 95 Neon and lives in a crappy place. If he drove a benz and lived in a nice place he probably wouldn't have a mil liquid right now.

Did you know that the owner of Ikea who is worth 23 BILLION drives a 1993 Volvo and is even known to use his bus pass to save money?
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/to...r_kamprad.html

There's this book I read called "Inside The Millionaire Mind" and it reveals the lifestyles of a lot of the millionaires in America who have net worths in the millions.

- It said a lot of them get their shoes RESOLED (have new soles put on their shoes) instead of actually buying new shoe.

- A lot of them reupholster furniture instead of buying new

-They clip coupons to save money.

-Typical millionaire has a net worth of just 3 million and lives in a home valued at under $277,460

Yeah, and I can't hang out with those cheap, stingy bastards.

Miguel T · 07-20-2007, 08:22 PM

Congratz on your success!!!

wyldworx · 07-20-2007, 08:27 PM

Werthers original best allround thread nominee for smooth and creamy content and just plain nice wisdom... $cha-ching$, up you go.

Beejeebers · 07-20-2007, 08:35 PM

Good for you on the million, calling people faggots is a great way to win friends and influence people too!

lucky482 · 07-20-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

as of right now, the paysite accounts for a hair less than 19% of my monthly gross.

The rest is porn galleries, blogs, tgps and mainstream blogs

Hey thanks for the inspirational story. Wanted to ask you a question. You said 19% of your monthly income comes from your paysites, where do you make most of your money from? Galleries, blogs, tgps, or mainstream? I don't know too much about blogs.

montel · 07-20-2007, 10:48 PM

this guy gets it.... fuck the pad, fuck the car... that shit DOESNT MAKE U HAPPY. for me, knowing i never have to work again and can do whatever i like makes me happy.

smokingdawn · 07-20-2007, 10:49 PM

That is really awesome seeing your hard work payoff like that! Enjoy!

GreyWolf · 07-20-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

Yeah, and I can't hang out with those cheap, stingy bastards.

Hang out??? Hang out??????? There is no such thing as "hanging out" unless there is biz being done - no time for this casual hanging out shit

IX-Gal · 07-21-2007, 12:52 AM

Congrats on the Million!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-21-2007, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beejeebers

Good for you on the million, calling people faggots is a great way to win friends and influence people too!

Especially here

VIPimp · 07-21-2007, 01:34 AM

Start promoting FreakBucks so I can be on your list of thank you's when you become a multi-millionaire.

Mutt · 07-21-2007, 01:40 AM

great story - 95% of the 'bros' do not have $1M in the bank - well most of the bros don't have 25K in the bank but anyway...........

but i do agree with some of the other people here - i don't think u want to squander your money on status symbols but you seem scared to spend any of it - you now know that with hard work you can make money so why not get a decent car and place to live? some people enjoy hard work but you should be able to get some joy out of life outside of working.

SleazyDream · 07-21-2007, 01:45 AM

i know a few guys in this biz who did that. I'm still not a mil liquid - but crazy real estate and other business assets

jimmy-3-way · 07-21-2007, 01:55 AM

The amazing thing about this thread is nobody has called bullshit.

RAM · 07-21-2007, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

I don't know why I forgot to add you to my thank yous.
We have never met before, never spoken before, but you are a huge factor on my success.
As I was lurking gfy a few years back, you stuck out as a young successful guy doing his thing in SEO, and everybody was praising you as being a SEO/SEM GOD, which in turn got me into studying SEO.
I would say I spent 18 months studying, playing around, trial and erroring with search engines before finding a system that worked for me on adult and mainstream.
so, THANK YOU

Good on you !!!

Now this is really a Awesome post !!!

ok and if you would like to add another sponsor to your list please see sig

Big_Red · 07-21-2007, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow

yeah, sorry, it is only 1 mil, and it just happened today. but it is post tax income.
kind of depressing when I look at my taxes paid.

It's one of those from nothing to something stories- motivate some newbies.

I had $76.87 in my checking account when I started porn.
I have that statement framed on my wall next to my desk.

my hats off to you.

squizzel · 07-21-2007, 02:05 AM

congrats nice post. good luck in future, albeit success has nothing to do with luck

nation-x · 07-21-2007, 04:34 AM

congrats man

darling2 · 07-21-2007, 05:23 AM

Congrats man.

Its good to see how your hard work has paid off!

DVTimes · 07-21-2007, 05:25 AM

promote www.MrBan.com sites and make even more.

The Judge · 07-21-2007, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montel

this guy gets it.... fuck the pad, fuck the car... that shit DOESNT MAKE U HAPPY. for me, knowing i never have to work again and can do whatever i like makes me happy.

Yes but a nice car a nice pad might get u laid more often and that might make u happier. The bitches look for a mate that can provide financial stability for the ofspring and a bad car and lame pad do not suggest that no matter you tell them you got 1 Mil banked. At best they'll think you're not wiling so spend on yourself let alone spend on her.

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07-20-2007, 03:35 PM	#60
bausch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,017	I'm happy for you and admire your hard work and dilligence, but doesn't "getting proxies" mean that you submit under fake nicks etc? I submit as well and the most amount of galleries you could realistically submit a day under your own identity is probably around 5-6 picture galleries or so (more perhaps if you are submitting in completely different niches and therefore a wider variety of sites) and even more if you are also doing vids (because you'll be submitting to even more different sites) and you would be perfectly fine as long as your submit program keeps track of how many submissions each site accepts and how many times you've submitted already, cause there's some sites out there that will accept like 5 gals a day, but once you get to 20, that's a bit too much. Using proxies is not good I think because you are breaking the tgp rules. Also, how do you plan on keeping submitting with all this 2257 crap going? (If you're in the U.S) Last edited by bausch; 07-20-2007 at 03:36 PM..

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